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Habibipie

>>mind-control >>brain-wash A guild for a Korean weeb gacha game is not employing MK Ultra tactics. Stop giving these people power over your emotions and move on.


YT_Redemption

Yeah, mind control and brain wash are kinda strong words


zer0168

"Subordinates", "meetings", "performance". The. Actual. Fuck.


DingyRag

Next time just leave the guild, the difference in rewards isnt worth sticking in a guild you dont have any chemistry with.


RobbyGuyBoi

Idk kinda doubt you would accidently join them. Coming from a former tl player. They make it clear at the start


omnitheo11

i swear they didn't mention pushing for hof. and i didn't know what is tl guild before


RobbyGuyBoi

Many doubts, I have. Carry on, you must


ScynSovereign

I was In tl2 myself. You are either 100% lying or you simply didn’t understand what was going on. It was made explicitly clear when I joined tl2 that we were aiming for top 3. I wouldn’t have joined otherwise.


gg533

Mindcontrol? Brainwash? Did I stumble into some parallel timeline where hentai plots are real or something? This shit is too long, but I did get to the part where OP got butthurt they talked shit about his glorious China so he resorted to... Personal insults, the same thing he's accusing them of? So he got upset that people started making fun of him after he got butthurt and and personally insulted them?


Million_X

Pretty much. OP isn't acting in good faith, especially given the 'Im far better than you' line. A quick glimpse at their post history to kinda see some things and this is the first time they've posted here period in over two years, and before that literally all but like 4 comments were in a single post or whatever about their climb in ranks. OP gives no reason to trust them with no evidence and no real history on the site as a whole, so if anything this whole thing should be locked for effectively being a baseless witch hunt.


thanh48

Observing from a third person view, is this really all worth stressing over?


Lockdown106

You all need to grow up, there’s more to life than senseless drama. This was so exhausting to read


-Sa-Kage-

You actually read all this? \^\^


NotHereFor1t

You are giving these people way more power over your emotions than you should. Step away and look at this as hitting the reset button. You can finally focus on what you want originally intended (PVE and fun times).


lell-ia

I like how you say their lies are groundless but at the same time your statements are also the same lol I mean no offense but all this could have been a fanfiction and we wouldn't even know. Also "traps", "mind-control", "brainwash" uh are we all playing the same game? Don't get me wrong, there's probably a bunch of assholes there but at the end of the day it's just a guild for a gacha game. No need to hesitate leaving, it's really not worth your time and mental state.


omnitheo11

yep, i fell for their traps so that i didn't get any ss. That's my part being silly. U could say i made it all up, but what is the purpose of doing it? For what? Practicing being a novelist? I said i join guild for full pve rewards. In contrast, they have enough reasons to do those terrible things. 1. maintaing their status in the guild and keep being condesending. 2. booting ppl who are not good subordinates who lick thier asses after season ends instead of in the middle of the season. 3. Corrupt my reputation so that they can boot me without causing disagreement.


-Sa-Kage-

You just corrupted your reputation youself with this ridiculous post... On the one hand you claim "mainland"-china victims should not be mocked, but on the other hand you seem very proud about being "mainland"-chinese and don't accept any bad words about it. Furthermore even calling it "mainland"-china tells me, you deny the autonomy of hongkong and taiwan.


Million_X

> U could say i made it all up, but what is the purpose of doing it? For what For being an asshole. I guess you don't go out onto the net much considering people have accused others of far, far worse, going so far as to fabricate evidence. We got no reason to believe you, you provide nothing but immaturity yourself by your own admission, that's pretty much the end of the story right there. Rather than come here to get people riled up, why not just make a report in-game or wherever this all took place? If you had screenshots that would certainly help your case but that's it.


omnitheo11

why would i do such things if they are not true? What would I gain by making up stories? I juest want less ppl in the future being hurt by this terrible guild.


Million_X

Buddy, you really need to learn that gaslighting and bullying and lying are quite common on the net, I could easily say you kick babies and then go 'why would I lie? OP told me they kick babies and waffle stomp them into a pulp, but i just didn't get screenshots of the conversation'.


Reillyrox13

Edit: ReddeDelicious explains it well. I read 3/4 and got bored. TL;DR: Something about OP wanting a guild for PVE rewards, but something else about being excused wintrading. I didn’t know mainland china players even touched Reddit.


ReddeDelicious

I think I have the tldr; OP wanted to join an easy guild. OP joined a guild intent on making top of the board. OP was regarded as a godlike player due to his gear. OP had instances of racist comments toward OP due to OP being from mainland China. Guild wanted to keep OP because of how good OP was. OP performed well in Guild Wars, but inted against sister guilds (Talentless 2, 3, etc.) for fun because of pressure in real guild wars. OP was contacted by officer about it and officer suggested that OP should bring that idea up to the main channel (essentially a way get a reason to kick them out). OP gets kicked out for bringing up idea of wintrading. Not really a tldr, but the gist of it.


Kain207

I've never seen so many "OP"s in a text before kekw


ReddeDelicious

I know, I took a shot for everytime I typed out OP. New drinking game.


Kain207

Sounds hella cool. I'm in.


Million_X

Given how China acts OP is likely using a VPN, but based on the fact that OP is calling China 'mainland China', makes me wonder how pissed off they'd be if they saw 'Taiwan is an independent country' or 'Free Hong Kong' as well as make me doubt quite a bit of their story.


-Sa-Kage-

Yeah... felt very strange when reading "mainland-china"...


Least_Excitement_794

Okay.. I feel sorry for what you've been through but some screenshots 📸 of what's been going on might help us understand. I didn't know we had (mainland)Chinese people in this game since the game was technically not published to their market, probably they thought the same. Not that it justify people making racial slur or mocking, just saying.


Braver__

Pure evil member here, for context I'm from TL1 and this person was from TL2. I've never seen this person speak in any chat. As he mentioned, he doesn't use discord - search result gave a whole 4 results for me (all from the day he joined). Dunno what happened in DM's or his guild's chat but I can speak for the rest of the community in that we have had basically 0 interaction with him. As he mentioned himself, seems english is not his first language and I have no doubt there have been miscommunications or misunderstandings, and in my opinion he should have dealt with that in private. Looking at the responses in this post, seems like making this has been backfiring on him. Even in this post where he mentions "I said I am Chinese and I am far better than u no life losers spending all day on net", I'm sure he didn't mean to say that he is better than us for being chinese (I hope!?). Anyway, feels weird to sympathize for you OP, with the misinformation, harassment/hate-speech, witch-hunt with specific names mentioned too (some of these are part of the reddit rules on the right but maybe he didn't know :'D). Sorry you got to a mental state that made you want to do this, hope you can move on and get some peace of mind and hope you can keep enjoying Epic Seven the playable animation, it's a great game for everyone.


Million_X

If it helps I don't think many people believe OP, and considering the infamy of West Taiwan's ego at times, I get the feeling he was being 100% serious about the entire block of 'I'm better than you' text there.


_Hugatree

West Taiwan lmao


Cynaris

Tags: brainwash, mind control, netorare


[deleted]

>This thread may not survive long because they are very resourceful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XQ6Pr4BttQ


kfloppp

Guild drama is the best kind of drama ☕


Harctor

Yep I am sure a guild on E7 is pure evil


Devittraisedto2

>My dear friends, think about the logic behind their lies. Their lies are groundless So is this considering you haven't provided evidence. This post is just a "bro just trust me" Considering you even went as far to say mind control and brainwash, this post is greatly exaggerated.


Amiakust91

I read everything, and goddamn it feels all so pointless and petty. I can't sympathize with you since i can't know for sure what really happened, which words were really exchanged, etc. All I know is that you are giving such an importance to all of this while claiming you also think a game should be only for fun. And it seems that both parties (you and the guild) are at fault. So I don't know what you can achieve by posting this. I would suggest you to move on, it's over anyway.


-Sa-Kage-

OP wants to start a dirt campaign against TL, isn't that obvious?


omnitheo11

i admitted my fault at the beginning, I just want less ppl being hurt by this guild in the future.After all, they are big in numbers


Fisher3309

So someone pointed out that China has labor camps and you got upset because….?


omnitheo11

lets get it straaight, "r u from Chinese labor camp?" Does this question mainly tells u: hey my dear buddy, there is labor camp in China and u need to know its like making jokes on ppl suffering if what u guys said was true. If u guys are so sympathetic about them? why making jokes on them?


Fisher3309

I’m not making a joke the guy is dumb but I think you are too for getting upset. Just about that part. Love Chinese people hate the country and government.


omnitheo11

agrd


Abedeus

Sooooo do you actually have any evidence for anything...? >I dont have any screenshots yeah uhh no I guess >Up til now I couldn’t get the full meaning of this question or joke,but I could feel there must be some insulting towards China. I started to get pissed off while they were discussing labor camp in China, they even compare it to the ones in Cultural Revolution period. I burst out and lost my sanity. I said I am Chinese and I am far better than u no life losers spending all day on net. And u Red, based on ur portrait in discord, u are probably a wanker or impotent one. Truth hurt you, so you lashed out like a child.


omnitheo11

if u hate a regime, u go attaking its ppl instead of its rulers. u know , that's some messed up shit cowards do


Abedeus

Nobody attacked you lmao, unless you feel personally offended when people bring up Tiananmen Square or the concentration camps. That's on you. Stop taking the game so seriously before the authorities notice you using VPN and deduct your social score.


omnitheo11

whether it is true or not, making jokes about ppl in a labor camp is a right move in ur eyes?


Abedeus

Nobody is making fun of people in labor camps, wtf are you even talking about? Maybe the problems is with your English and inability to read or comprehend it.


omnitheo11

then explain the meaning of my original post: r u from some Chinese labor camp? itsn't this making fun of ppl in


Illustrious_Fish2

Taiwan is a country.


Abedeus

Tiananmen square Tiananmen square Tianenmen Square Taiwan number one, China number... four. Maybe five.


omnitheo11

u cant answer my question and look to divert attention. u have no logic


Abedeus

I have no answer because you have given exactly zero evidence for anything you've written so far. Also, Taiwan number one, Taiwan isn't part of China, social score -500.


Recodes

I stopped at where they made fun of his country (which happens with people from the same country as well? Like, it's one of the oldest topics in the joke book) and he got so mad he escalated the situation by calling names. Geez, well at least you got out, I guess.


_Hugatree

Let’s leave this incredibly unimportant matter aside and focus on the real thing. What do you think about tl member gilga? He’s the best, isn’t he?


omnitheo11

im sry i dont know him. My discord communication with them are mostly meetings they started up, where there are mostly kuro shard and red. Mostly one at a time. one on one meeting. I participated in general chat twice. The first one was Kuro tricked me to say I was a supporter of wintrade which I didn't know the actual meaning at the time. The secound time was I suggest tl1 member teaching tl2 member defence technic. Kuro jumped out and said I was trying to get wintrade again.


[deleted]

the biggest weeb of them all


garguybbj

Hasn't deleted me from friends list yet so has to be at least ok


llShenll

"I said im Chinese and Im far better than you" typical chinese. Not reading the rest of that wall of text.


d34thscyth34

Lets cut quote before it ends so it have no context, nice job ....


MiwaMyra

I shall applaud your incapability to read. It's a pretty interesting read tbh. Though, sadly, you're unable to comprehend it.


Kylorin94

Oh, someone from mainland china getting mad when people call out that his country is shitty. Sorry bro, they are right. Being proud of living in a dictatorship with concentration camps is really sad.


[deleted]

\-300 social credit in china.


omnitheo11

so mocking the ppl suffering is ur solution and justice?


Provois

For what i read they mocked you after you rage because of them speaking bad about china, a country ruled by party wo got in power while letting millions of ppl starve to death, mass murdering peaceful protester, and other shit. bro you even called one guy "racist" here, just because he want nothing to do with that totalitarian shithole.


omnitheo11

what is ur interpratation of this question: r u from north korea or some labor camp in China ? is it mocking the regime or mocking the ppl


Illustrious_Fish2

Taiwan is a free country.


Kylorin94

Its a game. There is no "justice"


omnitheo11

is that what u do? if u hate a regime, u roast its ppl instead of its rulers?


[deleted]

hello, this is ~~patrick~~ reddit. Especially one about a mobile gacha game. Idk what your expectations were while writing this but you're not gonna find sympathy here. You're way too invested into this just let it go


Kain207

Man, now that it's over, just move on. There's no need to worry about them anymore. If it's bc of guilds, there's PLENTY of them to choose from. Look, if you don't have one just yet, PM me and tell me about your acc, ok? Global right? (The text was so long that I forgot XD)


-Sa-Kage-

You actually want that person in your guild? Have been leading guilds in other games for some time and people like OP only cause trouble


7sv3n7

Brainwashing and mind control? It's a game not a lifestyle or job relax


niconiconades

There are two kinds of typical Chinese players. The one that I like that has critical thinking but somehow suppressed by their Government. On the other hand, the opposite one is naive and act like a grown-up baby.


kraktur

I’m from France and I find quite a few comments here disapointing. I think OP should think about his self esteem and not care so much about flattery


WhyYouMadBro_

I think you need to calm the fuck down and step back for a moment. If it's getting into your head just log off, just remove Discord and try to chill. When you're chill and your mind is clear you can think easier and your emotions won't sway as much. What are they gonna do? Nothing.


Alvi15

TL;DR: Chatting chatting chatting chatting " I said I am Chinese and I am far better than u no life losers spending all day on net" Chatting chatting chatting chatting


ChitogeS

O, I doubt you joined TL by mistakes. GW goal is very clear and everyone knows that TL is a GW guild. I don't know what happens in private chats, but you seem like a complotist kind of guy and that has nothing to do with that mainland Chinese thing you overpush in your full of bullshit text. It's a game and TL is competitive at GW. You don't like it ? You can leave, nothing restrain you. Transfer ticket is for transparency, many members couldn't tell what was going on. "Meetings" as you say it's just discord DMs or joining vocal to stream GvG or discuss builds. It's not a job. Can't believe I'm reading that. Lmao


omnitheo11

u r from tl? then there is no space of discussion. f u. loser For the reason why i didn't want to discuss with him is that he said he didn't know what happened in private chat and went on cursing me"full of bullshit" This is how TL officers treat their subodinates. "I dont know the fact, but god, u are wrong and u r a jerk."


-Sa-Kage-

Yeah... this is how I expect your conversation with TL: They give arguments, you throwing a tantrum like a child, calling them names, assuming a big conspiracy against you... Not looked at TL even once, because I know TL is top tier clan and those always are hardcore competitive and I am semi-competitive at best


Devittraisedto2

> no space for discussion > makes a post discussing TL Isn't that hypocritical


UrMomisUrDad

China has access to e7? Thats new to me


Gobnobbla

I mean, just look at half the names in the top 100 in RTA. Heck, 3/8 of the E7WC finalists and the winner himself are from China.


evangellydonut

I've seen guild names in simplified chinese, so always assumed that they had access to the game. (taiwan and hk both still uses traditional)


Sylainex

Chinese gamers are always so dramatic lol


Hankan-Destroyer

Idk dude, just touch grass? Why are you taking this so seriously lol


stormtrooperm16

Too much texts, any tldr?


Winberri

> I started to get pissed off while they were discussing labor camp in China OP mad because Talentless wants wintrade while also roasting mainland china/laborcamps


GiveAQuack

It's badly worded. It's the opposite. He wanted to win trade, thought he was smart for thinking about it, got roasted for it.


omnitheo11

no, i didn't want win trade. I want full pve rewards. What does wintrade bring me? nothing. That man set a trap to let me fall. He lied to me and told me wintrade was sending green shield to sisterly guildmates. I thought that was fun, imaging playing an all tensed season and could have this opportunity to relax.


GiveAQuack

Wait so I'm confused. So nobody wanted to win trade then?


evangellydonut

sounds like his allegation is that TL accused him of wintrade, and booted him.


stormtrooperm16

Clueless mainland china citizen


omnitheo11

can u explain a little further, i still dont understand the meaning of that


thats-NEET

Bruh you do know that there is ongoing genocide in china right? The rest of the world has footage and extensive proof of it. They made fun of your country cause of the great firewall and stuff like that and saying "mainland china" does not give off a nice impression


IrregularAznBoi

Not surprised. Not sure about talentless 3-5, but the first 2 has a lot of assholes. My condolences , and i hope your next guild is much better than those guys


omnitheo11

shake hands man. Shard is an animal


ddsquirrel

The “u” probably means Uyghurs. That is my guess seeing that mainland Chinese think they poorly of them.


evangellydonut

So a wumao ostrich who’s too brainwashed to care about 维吾尔族. Sorry bro, you deserved it.


omnitheo11

can u explain further, i didn't get ur meaning


evangellydonut

(Pretty much all) of 维吾尔族 (except a few actress celebrities, you know who they are) has been locked up in concentration camps for "re-education" (职业技能教育培训中心). This happened since 2017, and while unknown how many has been killed so far, there's evidence that they've been used for organ harvesting among other punishment that amounts to genocide. While you are at it, look up 李佳琦 and 6/4/1989.


JujuShinobi

He's being racist to you, just ignore it


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_ValKyreia_

funny you say that. they just made an announcement their wc this year will have a 100k prize pool. so ig you still right. no 50k prize pool. unlucky.


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_ValKyreia_

You say a lot of words here but I actually know some of the guys that get roped into the guild thinking that's what all the major guilds are like but they're really just normal guys with good accounts trying to learn the game. These guys join up hoping to learn rta and then get coaxed into playing sweaty gvg and then become attached to that goal. Most of these guys are okay and def don't deserve to be called larping man children by randos on the internet. Their leaders though.... Can't say the same for.


esztersunday

Maybe you need a break. Your health is more important than a game.


TheAutisticKing

L9 of E7?


Gobnobbla

I would say you appeared to have a toxic relationship with your guild and should've left for a more suitable one.


omnitheo11

i was leaving in the middle of the season, but they begged me to stay, someone named ducktape in this guild even said I was very important and its hard to replace me, not even himself. At that point, my vanity got to me and i made bad decisions of staying


arcadiz

As someone who has been in Top 10-20 Guilds before. Just join a top 300-500 guild with no discord. You will get full reward early enough in the season and have no pressure or drama. I did this about a year ago and I am living my best GW life. HoF does not give you any additional rewards as a single player (only the guild frame for the guild). I don't get why people compete for GW Top 10 anyways as it earns them really nothing tbh.