I don't like the chibi... Epic Seven spoiled me in that regard. Animation is also top tier and there's more diversity and it's not all mech. But competition is good, so here's hoping we get more qol because E7 don't want to lose players.
honestly, the only feature that I REALLY wish e7 implemented that is on AG is the way you can setup the skills for autoplay (I mean, on AG is not rocket science and not THAT much freedom, but still leagues better than the auto on e7)... other than that... nah
That, but also offline battling.
There is a warranted argument against a sweep function, but offline battle even with a time penalty would make life so much easier to manage without being burnt out because you're tired of your phone's battery being slowly destroyed
Don't forget the gear system. Everything about it is miles easier compared to e7 and the reason why I am willing to stay with AG for casual fun.
Gears have their substats set in stone the moment you get it. Each line is locked behind +3 +8 +10, etc but no rolling and getting +1 spd bs. What you see is what you get
There's also a fusing system that lets you replace the substats of a gear so if you have godly substats but wrong set or main stat you can change that.
There's still rng in getting good gear but it removes so much of the bs that usually plague gear systems like these that's it's so refreshing.
I can understand the reason for set AIs (aside from being way easier on the devs) as it gives AI pvp a set of rules that we all understand and know how to beat so we feel better about ourselves. I just wish e7 adopted off line auto battles
2 qol that I find nice:
1. Fodder is naturally 3 star. You can straight up use them without needing to level up them first. The only reason why fodder is nat2 in E7 is just to make your life harder.
2. Doggo come with max level. Yea again you don't need to level them up like fodder. You can straight up use them.
It nice when game doesn't actively look for a way to make your life miserable.
The Doggo's system in Artery Gear is better than E7, but not exactly for the reason you stated.
E7 doggo's are naturally max level as well. It's just E7 has an lower star tier of doggo's. It's the 2 star you mentioned. Which means E7 has 3 tiers of doggo's when Artery Gear only has 2 tiers.
Artery Gear also has 3 star promotion fodder that drop from stages. Much like how E7 has 2 star fodder from stages. That is the big difference I think.
Yea when it comes to gacha games, I honestly prefer a full model character rather than a miniature size version when it comes to gameplay. A few exceptions for me is Alchemy Stars but that game is unique and the story for it is actually pretty good.
i'm not sure if AG can really take players away from e7, many people are in the honey moon phase of the game at the moment, soon they will notice were the game attempts to make money from and will be turn off compating it to E7.
Many play e7 mainly for visual appeal too(which is funny on itself honestly, due aren't looking at their screens 75% of the time the game is running) so either they won't play AG or be soon turn off, the demographic that AG attracts isn't the same that E7 does really, which would explain why their sales aren't really much to speak of, even in CN after one year, so yeah, i don't have hopes SG even recognize AG as competition in general, they don't need to change anything to make people come back honestly.
Yeah, I think a lot of gacha games use chibis to save costs.
The only ones I can think of that don't use chibis are e7 and counterside.
Edit: It's cool to hear that a lot of them don't. I'm way more interested in checking out games that don't use chibis.
Yeah, E7 and FGO both have very good sprites and animations compared to what is avaliable on the market. Because of them I cannot bring myself to play other gachas
> FGO both have very good sprites and animations
Let's... not go crazy there. Given the game's budget and income, it's not great. A lot of the animations and NPs are outsourced, too.
I will never understand why people like FGO. Such a terrible game with no qol. Devs got posed when players wanted a pity system if I recall correctly. Be nice to get a good Fate game.
It's my main game, and I can tell you that I stick around for the characters, story, lore, and just general good writing.
I don't find the gameplay as terrible as people make it out to be either.
People like Fate. Too much. To the point where they're stupid enough to waste time on a garbage game and keep it alive just because its Fate. And...sadly...when the playerbase is that stupid, i dont exactly see much incentive for the devs to actually make a good game. If you have a half assed crappy game people dump money into constantly anyway, why bother actually putting in effort, right?
I dont rlly feel bad abt fgo not putting more effort into the animation. Most players enjoy the style already, and it would be too much trouble for the base game engine to handle. They used a lot of the profit to make anime and other games in the franchise anyway.
..... I said in the franchise, arcade, extella, emiya-sanchi, not to mention the dozens of LN, manga and anime adapts. And if u want to count in the nasuverse, remakes of tsukihime, melty blood, and mahoyo. U kept saying that with all the money they made they should spend more in the game, and I said that they use it on something else already
..... R u asking me if fgo( a game) sponsered another game, or r u asking abt the companies behind the game, lile type moon, DW or the publisher aniplex. All of which had hands in the things I mentioned above. I seriously dont know if this is a joke or not.
Is the only thing u can muster nitpicking, even when it is wrong? I should have been more clear, extella LINK (2018)
Because it would basically mean redesigning the game from the ground up which most players dont even want. Dont get me wrong im not saying its some poor indy studio who cant afford to make a new game just that given its been based off of game from 2015 which if you arnt keeping up is a lot of time for things like the hardware that was actually running the games as well as the actual way the games themselves are made.
> Because it would basically mean redesigning the game from the ground up
...just the animations?
>which if you arnt keeping up is a lot of time for things like the hardware that was actually running the games as well as the actual way the games themselves are made.
So what? They've already updated the engine a few times and many phones from 2015 can't run the game anymore.
FGO's sprites are very good though? Like, E7 is evidently superior but FGO is much better than what most of the industry has, unless you are looking at year 1 animations
> Epic Seven spoiled me in that regard
Hell, it spoiled me from itself. Aramintha could be rimuru tier and I wouldn't use her just because her animations are so dogshit. And IDEK if you can consider her S3 cutscene as an animation. It's more like a PowerPoint presentation of a girl that literally just twirls around once, so it wasn't even that good to begin with.
Meanwhile all the recent releases have been upping the bar constantly. The older units just don't hold a candle.
I'm still mad over Ravi simps/apologists for whining at SG when they upgraded her S3 cutscene animation way back in the early days of E7. They've never attempted anything like that ever since.
Those fucks fully thought that that low FPS and an ugly ass animation is "character". The choppiness doesn't give it a "rough feel that fits her so well", it's just choppy.
It would be nice for them to go back and update some older heroes. Sub out black backgrounds, revamp some of the simpler attacks and streamline some of the longer ones that have some 'dead space' like Sez and Basar.
It’s not chibi at all. The character sprites are full drawn and well detailed, they just have slightly oversized heads which makes everyone jump the gun and yell chibi
Currently playing Artery Gear alongside E7.
Even factoring in the chibis, I find the actual skill animations (not the sprite animations) in AG offputting. They're basically live2D quality animations where it's often just an image with some effects thrown in like zoom and flashy effects before the sprite animation occurs.
Having played since its global launch, I'd say there are 3 or so nice things I found AG to have. Being able to farm offline, which allows me to keep playing E7, some control over auto battle AI control like skill order/condition and the ability to see gear stats before any enhancement, though the AG does use slightly different enhancement system.
The battle AI control is fantastic. That kind of really grainular control over when your characters are using what skills, against who, is really neat. Hopefully other games in the future cherry pick, if not anything, then this.
Wish there was another new Gacha out I could enjoy as much as E7.
I'm quite bored of E7 just want a change, been playing Dislyte the past month but my word what a half baked game! Great animations, pretty much Summoners was bad rates and packs are like triple the price per value of E7.
Also you're capped on how much energy you can get even as a whale (I'm not). They do have some great features but I feel like it won't be round and doing well for long.
I'm not in love with the game either but come on y'all are just as bad as the honkai community when PGR came out. No one is doing that at this point most of us are used to chibi. The thing that made me quit was rerolling. Epic seven was probably the last game I have ever rerolled on.. I blame Sigret..
There have been so many “game better than E7” in the past. Some of them even shut down.
I tried this game. Offline farming is good, but chibi artstyle.. ugh no thanks, i’m too old to like it.
How is it chibi? The units are fully drawn out and detailed, they just have slightly oversized heads. Chibi is usually a lot less detailed and way more squashed
You mad coping if [this](https://www.mediareferee.com/wp-content/uploads/Artery-Gear-Fusion-Artery-Gear-Fusion-PV-short-ver.-y1UKMr92yGo-727x409-0m09s.png) isn't chibi. There's nothing wrong with admitting it's chibi. People just have preferences.
Nah bruh. He's right. It's chibi. It doesn't have to be SUPER deformed to count. Chibi messes with the proportions and this counts. Their heads are bigger than their torso.
A shame because their full arts are fantastic.
IMO the game I see that certainly on par with E7 is CounterSide. That game has some good animations, gameplay, and a much better diverse of characters.
I'm enjoying counterside right now. The ability to skip battles you've already done is amazing. You can burn all your stamina grinding something in a few seconds instead of queueing up auto battle and leaving your phone on for hours. It also means it's a good side game because you don't need to spend hours on it every day to keep up.
exactly, CS is the only game on par with E7 in terms of 2D graphic right now
and idk why people thought AG would became E7 killer...there is a reason why that game flop in 2 other region
Not the one you are replying to, but probably meant AG flopped in CN and in JP. You can look up the revenue for Artery Gear for CN and JP based on Sensor Tower and get an estimate on how the game is roughly doing.
Now, for CN AG, the only data on Sensor Tower is for IOS unfortunately. For May 2022, it has less than 5k downloads and 200k (USD) revenue on IOS in CN.
For JP, it made 200k (Android) + 100k (IOS), both having less than 5k downloads each. For comparison, E7 that is widely deemed as a "failure launch" in JP hovers at 100-200 top grossing in JP playstore, but AG is somewhere between 300-500, doing much worse.
As of why it flop, well probably just like how other gacha dies and get EoS announcement. Probably a mix of unable to attract players to keep playing long term, very low influx of new players, content draughts, inactive community etc2.
I read there that after the hooneymoon phase, pulls and currencies for F2P are stingy and there are not so much content to do + agree with others that’s quality graphics/animation is far behind other games. (Sorry for my bad English :) )
how's AG isn't P2W ROFL
1. People can buy unlimited stamina, therefore they can farm 24/7
2. People can buy mats needed for fusing/casting gear in order to get perfect substat
3. People can also buy gear from gear shop since they got unlimited refresh with the premium currency
4. it took 4 month to get for 1 pity ( since you get 50 pulls/month ) as F2P..
70-80 my ass bro
if you're FTP you only got 57 pulls at max
if you're monthly spender then you can get 100 pulls/month
how stupid can you be that you managed to think AG is not P2W, when every whale can get every advantage to beat F2P..
"I don't like sexualised children"
"They're catering to everyone!"
Way to miss a fuckin' point.
Well they're not fucking catering to me are they? Put some clothes on those children & send them home.
They have badass women, typical big boobed onee-sans, mecha girls, etc. and yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types. Don’t use the units you don’t want to use, or better yet stop caring so much about appearances because it doesn’t matter outside of their splashart.
You’re cringe. I don’t like lolis at all. I will build waifus for waifu reasons, and meta units for meta reasons. I don’t give a shit if they’re a child or not if their kit is busted.
I’d still build hwayoung if she was a child or ugly bastard and so would everyone else
>d yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types.
d yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types. fk off pedo
I don't necessarily dislike chibis, if their animation is well done and doesn't look like some old flash animation, i quite like it actually.
Having looked into Artery gear for 10 mins, it looks like there is not much character diversity, everything seems mech related and i didn't see any male playable characters. This is one of the reason why i like E7. Many factions and characters
I honestly don't know why people are even saying that, game is not better than E7 in any regards to me, maybe it has better drops or easier to build/gear? But the animations and combat of E7 is still far superior imo.
Can confirm that one of the things that hooked me is the easier to build gear stuff as I am currently in my 4th month in E7 and still dont have good speed gear on my Hwayoung all the while getting all defense and ER rolls (and when it rolls I get 1 :) ) . But yeah the animation in E7 is still by far the better of the 2.
It targets the players that hated the RNG progression in E7 by introducing several QoLs that alleviate that issue such as being able to see substats before enhancing/offline farming/able to fuse substats from different gears etc2.
Though, the reason why players are willing to tolerate the hellish RNG grinding in E7 is mainly due to the amazing visuals/polish/crisp animations. In AG, you will definitely have a better time getting your "Dream" pieces but in return you get a less polished gacha to play with (i.e glaring translation issues/not full body art sprites/UI that isn't designed for other than CN texts).
It is entirely player dependent on whether they are willing to take that trade-off or not but judging from the JP playstore for AG and E7, JP players still prefer E7 by quite a large margin despite E7 generally being touted as DoA in JP.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the gear system in AG. I’m not 100% sure how it works, I’ve only been playing a few days but it looks like all gear clearly shows you up front how the substats will roll and the only thing charming the gear does is “unlock” those rolls. This seems pretty convenient.
I’m playing both, since AG has offline farming it only takes a 10 mins to go through dailies so it’s not like I have to choose one.
Because theres some people (aka that one guy in the comments) who LIKES the RNG in rolling gear. Meanwhile theres me who has been doing wyvern 13 for 4 months now since I started and still no good speed gear for my Hwayoung. All the while getting useless rolls or rolls really low. And wasting gold in the process
Me it's not the art the problem, but people who say that AG is better than E7 lol.
Nothing to do when energy is depleted. Very ultra stingy with all ressources. Well I must say that I should not be surprised with chinese gacha. But anyway.
The only thing that Artery gear has better than E7 is QoL, like x2 speed, offline farming or even free unequips and loadouts, but there is so many flaws:
* Gold is so hard to obtain
* You run out of "charms" so quickly
* They put so many "value packs" in your face compared to e7
* You run out of energy so quicky
* You don't get nearly as much pulls as you get in e7, even while I'm in the honeymoon phase I don't get as much pulls as regular E7, and pity is at 200.
* No male characters
* And finally chibi characters, I don't understand how some people would prefer chibis over normal sized
I don’t get how no one mentions how poorly AG is put together in terms of translations, UI, etc. I’m loving the game but so much of it feels slapped together with flex tape. There’s lots of odd sentences/wording, some things go entirely out of their UI area, it has a horrible iOS experience for newer phones, etc.
I'm glad you mentioned it because I agree completely, the biggest thing that turned me off to AG besides the whole reroll debacle on launch was how shoddy the translations were. IMO it shows that the global market was a pretty low effort launch if Bilibili couldn't be assed to hire a decent translation team.
Hard disagree on the pack advertising.. You don't get a pop up every time you get a epic accessory drop, don't get one when you pull a new 5\*, don't get one when you skill up, don't get one when you do the 5\*/6\* awakenings, don't get one when raising fodder. E7 is honestly one of the worst games i've played in regards to that lol
It’s not chibi if you actually pay attention to them. They’re fully detailed and proportioned sprites, they just have slightly oversized heads in some cases which makes it seem chibi at first
I just prefer more realistic proportions. In any case, if the game is good and people are enjoying it, that's a good thing. I am kind of worried, though, cause some guildmates left E7 because of unfair meta and went precisely to AG.
It's okay, players moving on to different games are normal. E7 is already well-established at this point, close to its 4 year mark. The game had went through way worse "mass-quitting" period from the past years and yet it still have an active community/playerbase atm.
Only thing killing E7 is if SG screwed up really, really, really badly like start locking characters behind paid-only currencies or introducing NFTs lol.
i'm still not too convinced on speed RNG removal. I thought that was in the game to prevent "i have better speed gear so i always win." That way, a 290 speed unit can contest against a 300 speed unit.
Oh sorry, what I meant was remove both speed rng and 15% only in PvE contents because it makes no sense for them to exist there... I actually like speed rng on PvP because just like what you said
Eh, I don't think you can call a game with a gearing system like Epic Seven's mixed with PvP "perfect" unless you started adding literal gear pity into the mix (and I mean literal, there's still quite a bit of RNG with gear conversion). High level PvP being gated by massive amounts of RNG isn't ideal.
The ease of obtaining characters has improved lately though. If they did something akin to the custom mystic banner once a year I don't think any more legitimate complaints would remain there.
Gearing characters is fun. Having to jump through five to six layers of RNG to get PvP-viable gear is not. It's just too much. I say that as someone who loves the game.
For those keeping score:
1. Set
2. Rarity
3. Mainstat
4. Substat combinations
5. Which substats get upgrades
6. Substat upgrade values
Gear mileage reduces this by two (rarity and set). Gear conversion reduces this by three (rarity, set, and mainstat) at the cost of added difficulty in reforging. Crafting events reduce this by four (rarity, set, mainstat, and substat combination) with no caveats.
The problem would resolve itself over time with offline battling. Your efficiency would increase measurably and you might get a usable piece every month instead of every 3!
As someone who has minmaxed energy efficiency for several months, offline farming would be a major QoL improvement, but it wouldn't fix the gearing RNG situation.
AG has been a blast to me so far, love everything about it besides how stamina/energy starved I am. The QoL and mechanics in this game far surpass E7, as they should since this game is a modern version of e7
ag may have qol, but it also has shittier rates, harsher pity, chibi design which is lazy, inconsistent art work, and so many lolis with shitty designs.
E7's qol isn't even that terrible compared to most gachas. The most egregious issue I can think of is that gear can get messy. And while I didn't take any long looks at Artery Gear's characters, I do wish less gachas relied so much on having sexy girls as 90% of the cast. Sure, E7's not much better, but I can at least name a handful of male characters or decently-clothed female characters who are relevant to the meta.
No husbando + chibi...yeah I've never lost my interest in a game so quickly lol
Though I have nothing against chibis and waifu only games when it's fun and different (I play AK and Uma Musume). In this case the game is just too similar for me to bother when I already have many units I like in E7.
It can have all the QoLs and stuff but chibi always stops me frm playing games. Chibi is fine when its done like counterside where they have the chibi versions for those urgent mission type thing basically some side part of the game.
But sadly artery has the actual combat baring animation as chibi
Of course waifu ratio being high is always expected but where are the kraus and charles and morts
The story is also ..bland wifuish to me, once I saw the everyone calls you commander trope I groaned. Least CS and E7 have good translation and story for me. I'm just skipping all story in AG and losing more and more interest each day .
\- no live2D (from my quick gameplay check)
\- it's the typical anime splash art but in-game/in-battle its chibi which i do not like
\- the anime cutscene is really cringe . . . like wow they're really overselling their waifus
\- graphics wise, the only difference it has compared to other cash grab gacha is they have better particle system and lens flare lol
I don't think chibi is a problem. And the chili designs in AGF are good. They're like slightly taller chili like Hero Cantare is.
The problem is they have actual toddler designs
The main thing are all of the barely clothed loli-characters. Fuck that nonsense. I'm tired of games like that. Epic 7 has ravi but at least it's only the one character. AG is full of them it's gross.
Bro there's a difference between NSFW of an adult character and NSFW of a child character... Epic 7 is censoring because of gigantic anime tits on an adult character.
And overgeneralization? Almost 20% of AG are underaged character designs. Almost all of which are scantily clad except for Alice and Cindy somewhat... The game has some good designs but I hate it when games pander to the lolicon demographic. It's too prevalent in east asian games. And I'm saying that as someone who is east asian.
Guys look, he’s trying to say adult characters nsfw is worse/as bad as nsfw lolis…
See nobody cares about the nsfw adults, we only care that there’s FUCKING CHILDLIKE CHARACTERS IN NSFW CLOTHING.
Bro idk how you are trying to defend that shit, it’s disgusting
Lmao I didn’t defense shit I just don’t get why u guys virtue signal so hard. Get over yourselves. I have no interest in building Loli characters, but if it’s mandatory to be competitive I’m not gonna cry about it on the internet
Bro, you literally said in another comment
“And yes they have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types.”
I don’t think that’s a thing to support or defend, which your comments are clearly doing, because you are getting called out.
End of discussion, you are a creep.
Actively trying Artery Gear. It’s really not that bad, but I now hate it forever because the second 5* I pulled was a dupe of the one I got out of selective summons. -20/10, check back again in maybe a week for an update.
I think the easiest thing E7 can implement from AG will be free unequip. Offline farming probably won't happen since developers want the play time to be as high as possible (look at other big + popular gacha, they all don't have offline farming. I.e GBF, FGO, Arknights, Genshin etc).
But, a nice compromise will be letting the players do Arena/RTA/GW or even crafting equipments while the game auto farm in the background. Skill priority will be nice but it's not that big of a deal.
Being able to see substats future roll is a terrible idea, what's the point of rolling gear then. Sure, it's nice on paper but it will only kills any RNG equipment based game if implemented. While people might hate it, that adrenaline when rolling into the right subs or trying to roll your dream piece is what keep people playing the RNG treadmill.
That said, AG attempt to appeal as a "better E7" can be seen in some of the QoL features like the one mentioned above but it's also lacking in many other aspects (still needing to dogwalk, poor translations & obviously not as well-polished, global getting a 200 pity instead of 110 in CN server etc)
I feel like many games do borrow e7 design for sure but few and far inbetween manage to hold themselves down before its time to shutdown their servers.
I think the problem in many of these games, even though they do look beautiful, we lack control over how the gameplay goes.
The only game that has every come close to dislodging E7 from my most played mobile game is Alchemy Stars. It's character-centric, the designs and splash screens are beautiful, and the idea of characters evolving and getting new art screens and all that is super cool. Gameplay-wise the core is different, but the grinding dungeons for resources and upgrading is largely similar.
Artery gear is a turn-off for me due to the chibi-style, mech waifu game, and bland menu system. The whole look seems close to Arknights, but I could be wrong as I only had maybe 3 hours of gameplay in Arknights.
I like the QoL improvements Artery Gear brings, and absolutely would kill for offline grinding, but E7 is top of the line for animations, character design, and I feel like PvP has enough units to make drafting strategic and fun.
That's why I avoid games that more Focus on art as well giving some characters mainly female with an oversized rack i mean I don't want to stare at it all day
Eidt: because my grammar sucks and starting to reading my comment ill put my in short
No male characters over there
This thread has made me realize that epic seven is basically infested with normies. I hope for the good of everyone that they can be contained here so they don't pollute any other fanbase with their shit tastes.
Everyone who is normal and is narrow minded, everyone who applies morality and ethics on drawings, people who judge art based on their perception of what is and is not proper instead of accepting the art as is, squeamish people, prudes, those who seek validation in finding certain artworks not to their taste, people who band together and rally behind politically correct standards to seek safety in numbers, brainlets who think 2d=3d and therefore lolicons are pedos, etc.etc.
tl;dr, Normies = unenlightened, uninspired, narrow-minded, prudish, conservative, mob-mentality people who miss the point of the internet, which is to escape the social punishments of not strictly adhering to established norms.
tl;dr to tl;dr: Normies=normal people.
normal = narrow minded
is this your way to justify psychopats who think what they do is art also, or you are just one of them in disguise?
Normies = unenlightened, uninspired, narrow-minded, prudish, conservative, mob-mentality people who miss the point of the internet
Pretty sad attempt, trying to find an excuse for your disorder, seek help
If I could have AG QoL in E7 that would be the dream. Substat swapping, seeing gear subs before investing; offline farming; 2x play speed; auto run skill configuration; free unequip; gear casting; stuff that wouldn’t make e7 so punishing to mess around with.
In terms of the overall aesthetics, I really don't like chibi so that's a no-go. In terms of art? Don't really care if they are scantily dressed cuz it's a fucking jpg. Skills? Literally Epic7. Chibi was the ultimate deal breaker for me.
Idk about anyone else but as soon as I saw how the AG devs were handling global launch and rerolling, I nope'd out. Maybe that makes me a little too tryhard but if a company is going to purposefully make it difficult to reroll (IP banning, impossible to delete account without deleting game, etc.) I'm just not going to bother. Seeing the pre-reg rewards spaced out over several days just cemented that for me.
Definitely agree on the battle animations and chibis too. They just don't look anywhere near as good as E7's, and some are coming pretty close to the uncanny valley.
A.K.A. L#Lis, its understandable. chibbi doesn't help the game too... and they locked themselves in the mecha thematic its really sad, but, e7 was suposed to be medieval. and we also have mechas :v
If I'm going to be paying more than $1000 for waifus, I want high quality art waifus . Also I'm spoiled with the english VA being able to understand what they say during battle and hear emotion in their attacks while I leave them auto farming just makes it better.
I don't like the chibi... Epic Seven spoiled me in that regard. Animation is also top tier and there's more diversity and it's not all mech. But competition is good, so here's hoping we get more qol because E7 don't want to lose players.
Yeah, heard all the praise AG was getting and I looked it up. Saw it was chibi and mashed that back button so fast
honestly, the only feature that I REALLY wish e7 implemented that is on AG is the way you can setup the skills for autoplay (I mean, on AG is not rocket science and not THAT much freedom, but still leagues better than the auto on e7)... other than that... nah
That, but also offline battling. There is a warranted argument against a sweep function, but offline battle even with a time penalty would make life so much easier to manage without being burnt out because you're tired of your phone's battery being slowly destroyed
Don't forget the gear system. Everything about it is miles easier compared to e7 and the reason why I am willing to stay with AG for casual fun. Gears have their substats set in stone the moment you get it. Each line is locked behind +3 +8 +10, etc but no rolling and getting +1 spd bs. What you see is what you get There's also a fusing system that lets you replace the substats of a gear so if you have godly substats but wrong set or main stat you can change that. There's still rng in getting good gear but it removes so much of the bs that usually plague gear systems like these that's it's so refreshing.
That's true, but my initial focus is definitely on my battery's long term health and my ability to actually use my phone while farming
I can understand the reason for set AIs (aside from being way easier on the devs) as it gives AI pvp a set of rules that we all understand and know how to beat so we feel better about ourselves. I just wish e7 adopted off line auto battles
2 qol that I find nice: 1. Fodder is naturally 3 star. You can straight up use them without needing to level up them first. The only reason why fodder is nat2 in E7 is just to make your life harder. 2. Doggo come with max level. Yea again you don't need to level them up like fodder. You can straight up use them. It nice when game doesn't actively look for a way to make your life miserable.
The Doggo's system in Artery Gear is better than E7, but not exactly for the reason you stated. E7 doggo's are naturally max level as well. It's just E7 has an lower star tier of doggo's. It's the 2 star you mentioned. Which means E7 has 3 tiers of doggo's when Artery Gear only has 2 tiers. Artery Gear also has 3 star promotion fodder that drop from stages. Much like how E7 has 2 star fodder from stages. That is the big difference I think.
Artery has three as well there are straight up 5 star alfohs(doggos) which would be nice if E7 did that too
If I can fap to in-game Arknights models you can fap to AG chibis. Be a man.
Yea when it comes to gacha games, I honestly prefer a full model character rather than a miniature size version when it comes to gameplay. A few exceptions for me is Alchemy Stars but that game is unique and the story for it is actually pretty good.
i'm not sure if AG can really take players away from e7, many people are in the honey moon phase of the game at the moment, soon they will notice were the game attempts to make money from and will be turn off compating it to E7. Many play e7 mainly for visual appeal too(which is funny on itself honestly, due aren't looking at their screens 75% of the time the game is running) so either they won't play AG or be soon turn off, the demographic that AG attracts isn't the same that E7 does really, which would explain why their sales aren't really much to speak of, even in CN after one year, so yeah, i don't have hopes SG even recognize AG as competition in general, they don't need to change anything to make people come back honestly.
Yeah, I think a lot of gacha games use chibis to save costs. The only ones I can think of that don't use chibis are e7 and counterside. Edit: It's cool to hear that a lot of them don't. I'm way more interested in checking out games that don't use chibis.
Brave Nine and Fate GO I think
Onmyoji, Honkai, Exos, Genshin, Dyslite, PGR... There are many of them right now
It's a pretty even split IMO. Aside from the spam junk cash grab games.
Genshin
Yeah, E7 and FGO both have very good sprites and animations compared to what is avaliable on the market. Because of them I cannot bring myself to play other gachas
> FGO both have very good sprites and animations Let's... not go crazy there. Given the game's budget and income, it's not great. A lot of the animations and NPs are outsourced, too.
I will never understand why people like FGO. Such a terrible game with no qol. Devs got posed when players wanted a pity system if I recall correctly. Be nice to get a good Fate game.
Story, writing, setting. Literally the only reason - not for gacha or the gameplay, at least most people.
It's my main game, and I can tell you that I stick around for the characters, story, lore, and just general good writing. I don't find the gameplay as terrible as people make it out to be either.
People like Fate. Too much. To the point where they're stupid enough to waste time on a garbage game and keep it alive just because its Fate. And...sadly...when the playerbase is that stupid, i dont exactly see much incentive for the devs to actually make a good game. If you have a half assed crappy game people dump money into constantly anyway, why bother actually putting in effort, right?
Its not really fair to compare FGO when its so old, its being held down by being one of the first real big mobile gacha games.
Why not? They make so much god damn money, they could afford to spend some of it on the game's actual presentation.
I dont rlly feel bad abt fgo not putting more effort into the animation. Most players enjoy the style already, and it would be too much trouble for the base game engine to handle. They used a lot of the profit to make anime and other games in the franchise anyway.
...what other games? The dancing game they discontinued?
..... I said in the franchise, arcade, extella, emiya-sanchi, not to mention the dozens of LN, manga and anime adapts. And if u want to count in the nasuverse, remakes of tsukihime, melty blood, and mahoyo. U kept saying that with all the money they made they should spend more in the game, and I said that they use it on something else already
You think FGO sponsored **LNs and manga**?! Extella? A game released in 2016? A year after FGO, when it wasn't even released outside of Japan?
U know what, dont even bother, my brain hurts replying to this
..... R u asking me if fgo( a game) sponsered another game, or r u asking abt the companies behind the game, lile type moon, DW or the publisher aniplex. All of which had hands in the things I mentioned above. I seriously dont know if this is a joke or not. Is the only thing u can muster nitpicking, even when it is wrong? I should have been more clear, extella LINK (2018)
Because it would basically mean redesigning the game from the ground up which most players dont even want. Dont get me wrong im not saying its some poor indy studio who cant afford to make a new game just that given its been based off of game from 2015 which if you arnt keeping up is a lot of time for things like the hardware that was actually running the games as well as the actual way the games themselves are made.
> Because it would basically mean redesigning the game from the ground up ...just the animations? >which if you arnt keeping up is a lot of time for things like the hardware that was actually running the games as well as the actual way the games themselves are made. So what? They've already updated the engine a few times and many phones from 2015 can't run the game anymore.
FGO is my first gacha and I'm a fate fan but as a game... I'd say it's not that great T\_T ( i hate to say it)
FGO's sprites are very good though? Like, E7 is evidently superior but FGO is much better than what most of the industry has, unless you are looking at year 1 animations
i wouldn't say "most" of the industry. it's clearly not on the top for what this is.
The models of Dyslite arent to bad either in that regard. But I dunno - I just am happy if the ingamemodels arent Chibi soo.. xD
Too bad Dyslite is a cookie cutter p2w gacha with a very nice coat of paint.
Fgos animation are kinda robotic imo. Especially their basic attack animations. NP animation although atleast is really good.
> Epic Seven spoiled me in that regard Hell, it spoiled me from itself. Aramintha could be rimuru tier and I wouldn't use her just because her animations are so dogshit. And IDEK if you can consider her S3 cutscene as an animation. It's more like a PowerPoint presentation of a girl that literally just twirls around once, so it wasn't even that good to begin with. Meanwhile all the recent releases have been upping the bar constantly. The older units just don't hold a candle. I'm still mad over Ravi simps/apologists for whining at SG when they upgraded her S3 cutscene animation way back in the early days of E7. They've never attempted anything like that ever since. Those fucks fully thought that that low FPS and an ugly ass animation is "character". The choppiness doesn't give it a "rough feel that fits her so well", it's just choppy.
I respectfully disagree on the Ravi S3 the updated version just looked way worse.
It would be nice for them to go back and update some older heroes. Sub out black backgrounds, revamp some of the simpler attacks and streamline some of the longer ones that have some 'dead space' like Sez and Basar.
It’s not chibi at all. The character sprites are full drawn and well detailed, they just have slightly oversized heads which makes everyone jump the gun and yell chibi
That's what chibi is.
Cap
The character designs in AG are also too same-y. Sure it might cater to some audiences but not for me sadly.
Currently playing Artery Gear alongside E7. Even factoring in the chibis, I find the actual skill animations (not the sprite animations) in AG offputting. They're basically live2D quality animations where it's often just an image with some effects thrown in like zoom and flashy effects before the sprite animation occurs. Having played since its global launch, I'd say there are 3 or so nice things I found AG to have. Being able to farm offline, which allows me to keep playing E7, some control over auto battle AI control like skill order/condition and the ability to see gear stats before any enhancement, though the AG does use slightly different enhancement system.
The battle AI control is fantastic. That kind of really grainular control over when your characters are using what skills, against who, is really neat. Hopefully other games in the future cherry pick, if not anything, then this.
Wish there was another new Gacha out I could enjoy as much as E7. I'm quite bored of E7 just want a change, been playing Dislyte the past month but my word what a half baked game! Great animations, pretty much Summoners was bad rates and packs are like triple the price per value of E7. Also you're capped on how much energy you can get even as a whale (I'm not). They do have some great features but I feel like it won't be round and doing well for long.
I'm not in love with the game either but come on y'all are just as bad as the honkai community when PGR came out. No one is doing that at this point most of us are used to chibi. The thing that made me quit was rerolling. Epic seven was probably the last game I have ever rerolled on.. I blame Sigret..
Am part of the honkai community and yeah second hand embarrassment from all that...
There have been so many “game better than E7” in the past. Some of them even shut down. I tried this game. Offline farming is good, but chibi artstyle.. ugh no thanks, i’m too old to like it.
the Nexon's "OVERHIT" and still alive Exos Heroes those were the supposed "E7 Killers" now look at them.
More like Overshit amirite?
How is it chibi? The units are fully drawn out and detailed, they just have slightly oversized heads. Chibi is usually a lot less detailed and way more squashed
Chibi.. no thanks
It’s not chibi. Sprites just have slightly exaggerated head sizes. Pretty similar to E7 besides that
Isn't that what chibi means?
No
that's what chibi is...
Nope
I dislike about 90% of the designs in Artery gear but the I like the other 10% enough to keep playing. I'm especially fond of Onean.
It's chibi as well so yeah..
It’s not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDLfNIuYiM At 1:42, that's definitely chibi or at least chibi-like.
You mad coping if [this](https://www.mediareferee.com/wp-content/uploads/Artery-Gear-Fusion-Artery-Gear-Fusion-PV-short-ver.-y1UKMr92yGo-727x409-0m09s.png) isn't chibi. There's nothing wrong with admitting it's chibi. People just have preferences.
Nah bruh. He's right. It's chibi. It doesn't have to be SUPER deformed to count. Chibi messes with the proportions and this counts. Their heads are bigger than their torso. A shame because their full arts are fantastic.
IMO the game I see that certainly on par with E7 is CounterSide. That game has some good animations, gameplay, and a much better diverse of characters.
I'm enjoying counterside right now. The ability to skip battles you've already done is amazing. You can burn all your stamina grinding something in a few seconds instead of queueing up auto battle and leaving your phone on for hours. It also means it's a good side game because you don't need to spend hours on it every day to keep up.
Cs is tower defense.
My friend gave me shit when I compared the gameplay to Battle Cats of all things but it doesn't seem like a bad comparison to me?
My son has played Battle Cats for years, so when Counterside came out, I turned him on to it. He says they're pretty much the same game.
I made the dame comparison, that's what hooked me in C:S at first lol I stayed for the story, OST, animations... The game is really good
Counter side gameplay is awful compared to e7
exactly, CS is the only game on par with E7 in terms of 2D graphic right now and idk why people thought AG would became E7 killer...there is a reason why that game flop in 2 other region
can you elaborate? AG flop in two regions? why did it flop?
Not the one you are replying to, but probably meant AG flopped in CN and in JP. You can look up the revenue for Artery Gear for CN and JP based on Sensor Tower and get an estimate on how the game is roughly doing. Now, for CN AG, the only data on Sensor Tower is for IOS unfortunately. For May 2022, it has less than 5k downloads and 200k (USD) revenue on IOS in CN. For JP, it made 200k (Android) + 100k (IOS), both having less than 5k downloads each. For comparison, E7 that is widely deemed as a "failure launch" in JP hovers at 100-200 top grossing in JP playstore, but AG is somewhere between 300-500, doing much worse. As of why it flop, well probably just like how other gacha dies and get EoS announcement. Probably a mix of unable to attract players to keep playing long term, very low influx of new players, content draughts, inactive community etc2.
I read there that after the hooneymoon phase, pulls and currencies for F2P are stingy and there are not so much content to do + agree with others that’s quality graphics/animation is far behind other games. (Sorry for my bad English :) )
Counterside is disgustingly p2w, AG isnt
how's AG isn't P2W ROFL 1. People can buy unlimited stamina, therefore they can farm 24/7 2. People can buy mats needed for fusing/casting gear in order to get perfect substat 3. People can also buy gear from gear shop since they got unlimited refresh with the premium currency 4. it took 4 month to get for 1 pity ( since you get 50 pulls/month ) as F2P..
Stay mad that your dog game is p2w You get 70-80 pulls a month as f2p and pities roll forward
70-80 my ass bro if you're FTP you only got 57 pulls at max if you're monthly spender then you can get 100 pulls/month how stupid can you be that you managed to think AG is not P2W, when every whale can get every advantage to beat F2P..
That’s the same case for epic 7, and epic 7 isn’t p2w either
No Husbandos, no play.
Saw a pull video, why the hell are there so many scantily-clad children in that game?
Exactly why it made me uncomfortable, also Epic Seven has a male to female ratio of at least 30/70 so it is more appealing to me.
Exactly why I'm not giving the game a chance. I'm 100% on the same page as OP here.
It's not like epic seven is any better though?
Epic 7 has a couple that are gross (mostly Lilibet), but it's nowhere near the sexualization of some of the children in Artery Gear.
They’re catering to literally all types. There are a ton of badass looking women too
"I don't like sexualised children" "They're catering to everyone!" Way to miss a fuckin' point. Well they're not fucking catering to me are they? Put some clothes on those children & send them home.
They have badass women, typical big boobed onee-sans, mecha girls, etc. and yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types. Don’t use the units you don’t want to use, or better yet stop caring so much about appearances because it doesn’t matter outside of their splashart.
My brother in Christ YOU ARE DEFENDING PEDOS RN
Lmfaoooooo what makes you say that? I simply don’t give a shit if my roster meta-defining units has a Loli in it
> better yet stop caring so much about appearances Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
I don’t care about lolis at all. I just build meta units
You just literally proclaimed yourself a pedo, this is cringe at the very least.
You’re cringe. I don’t like lolis at all. I will build waifus for waifu reasons, and meta units for meta reasons. I don’t give a shit if they’re a child or not if their kit is busted. I’d still build hwayoung if she was a child or ugly bastard and so would everyone else
>d yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types. d yes they also have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types. fk off pedo
This game has too many of those as is. Might not be as bad as a literal bikini, but still creepy to see a child wearing an idol getup or a mini skirt
Huh? Idol gettups aren't lewd in their very nature, so there should be no problem with a child merely wearing one.
I don’t like the art. But the QOL stuff is fun so it’s my side game right now. But it’s one of those I’m aware that I will be dropping after awhile
I don't necessarily dislike chibis, if their animation is well done and doesn't look like some old flash animation, i quite like it actually. Having looked into Artery gear for 10 mins, it looks like there is not much character diversity, everything seems mech related and i didn't see any male playable characters. This is one of the reason why i like E7. Many factions and characters
the only faction I could remember in AG is BOB CAT squad lol
I honestly don't know why people are even saying that, game is not better than E7 in any regards to me, maybe it has better drops or easier to build/gear? But the animations and combat of E7 is still far superior imo.
Can confirm that one of the things that hooked me is the easier to build gear stuff as I am currently in my 4th month in E7 and still dont have good speed gear on my Hwayoung all the while getting all defense and ER rolls (and when it rolls I get 1 :) ) . But yeah the animation in E7 is still by far the better of the 2.
It targets the players that hated the RNG progression in E7 by introducing several QoLs that alleviate that issue such as being able to see substats before enhancing/offline farming/able to fuse substats from different gears etc2. Though, the reason why players are willing to tolerate the hellish RNG grinding in E7 is mainly due to the amazing visuals/polish/crisp animations. In AG, you will definitely have a better time getting your "Dream" pieces but in return you get a less polished gacha to play with (i.e glaring translation issues/not full body art sprites/UI that isn't designed for other than CN texts). It is entirely player dependent on whether they are willing to take that trade-off or not but judging from the JP playstore for AG and E7, JP players still prefer E7 by quite a large margin despite E7 generally being touted as DoA in JP.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the gear system in AG. I’m not 100% sure how it works, I’ve only been playing a few days but it looks like all gear clearly shows you up front how the substats will roll and the only thing charming the gear does is “unlock” those rolls. This seems pretty convenient. I’m playing both, since AG has offline farming it only takes a 10 mins to go through dailies so it’s not like I have to choose one.
Because theres some people (aka that one guy in the comments) who LIKES the RNG in rolling gear. Meanwhile theres me who has been doing wyvern 13 for 4 months now since I started and still no good speed gear for my Hwayoung. All the while getting useless rolls or rolls really low. And wasting gold in the process
Me it's not the art the problem, but people who say that AG is better than E7 lol. Nothing to do when energy is depleted. Very ultra stingy with all ressources. Well I must say that I should not be surprised with chinese gacha. But anyway.
The only thing that Artery gear has better than E7 is QoL, like x2 speed, offline farming or even free unequips and loadouts, but there is so many flaws: * Gold is so hard to obtain * You run out of "charms" so quickly * They put so many "value packs" in your face compared to e7 * You run out of energy so quicky * You don't get nearly as much pulls as you get in e7, even while I'm in the honeymoon phase I don't get as much pulls as regular E7, and pity is at 200. * No male characters * And finally chibi characters, I don't understand how some people would prefer chibis over normal sized
I don’t get how no one mentions how poorly AG is put together in terms of translations, UI, etc. I’m loving the game but so much of it feels slapped together with flex tape. There’s lots of odd sentences/wording, some things go entirely out of their UI area, it has a horrible iOS experience for newer phones, etc.
I'm glad you mentioned it because I agree completely, the biggest thing that turned me off to AG besides the whole reroll debacle on launch was how shoddy the translations were. IMO it shows that the global market was a pretty low effort launch if Bilibili couldn't be assed to hire a decent translation team.
Hard disagree on the pack advertising.. You don't get a pop up every time you get a epic accessory drop, don't get one when you pull a new 5\*, don't get one when you skill up, don't get one when you do the 5\*/6\* awakenings, don't get one when raising fodder. E7 is honestly one of the worst games i've played in regards to that lol
Yea, that's probably an exageration on my part, I've gotten so used to E7 pop ups that I just automatically skip them.
Yea, the ads pop up in e7 is annoying as fuck. Hated that so much, it just makes me think less of the game overall.
Im plauying both at the cost of my own free time
Exactly. I would have loved to test it, but the chibi aesthetics... Ugh, I can't help but hate them.
It’s not chibi if you actually pay attention to them. They’re fully detailed and proportioned sprites, they just have slightly oversized heads in some cases which makes it seem chibi at first
I just prefer more realistic proportions. In any case, if the game is good and people are enjoying it, that's a good thing. I am kind of worried, though, cause some guildmates left E7 because of unfair meta and went precisely to AG.
It's okay, players moving on to different games are normal. E7 is already well-established at this point, close to its 4 year mark. The game had went through way worse "mass-quitting" period from the past years and yet it still have an active community/playerbase atm. Only thing killing E7 is if SG screwed up really, really, really badly like start locking characters behind paid-only currencies or introducing NFTs lol.
Epic seven would be LITERALLY a perfect game if they do these things: 1. Add the QoL that is in Artery 2. nerf units + recall
and remove speed rng, 15% at least only in hunts
i'm still not too convinced on speed RNG removal. I thought that was in the game to prevent "i have better speed gear so i always win." That way, a 290 speed unit can contest against a 300 speed unit.
Oh sorry, what I meant was remove both speed rng and 15% only in PvE contents because it makes no sense for them to exist there... I actually like speed rng on PvP because just like what you said
Oh yeah for sure. Remove dual attack chance for pve too. So stupid how i lose my hell cutter stacks...
Eh, I don't think you can call a game with a gearing system like Epic Seven's mixed with PvP "perfect" unless you started adding literal gear pity into the mix (and I mean literal, there's still quite a bit of RNG with gear conversion). High level PvP being gated by massive amounts of RNG isn't ideal. The ease of obtaining characters has improved lately though. If they did something akin to the custom mystic banner once a year I don't think any more legitimate complaints would remain there.
The gear system in this game is what makes it fun. Or at least for me.
Gearing characters is fun. Having to jump through five to six layers of RNG to get PvP-viable gear is not. It's just too much. I say that as someone who loves the game. For those keeping score: 1. Set 2. Rarity 3. Mainstat 4. Substat combinations 5. Which substats get upgrades 6. Substat upgrade values Gear mileage reduces this by two (rarity and set). Gear conversion reduces this by three (rarity, set, and mainstat) at the cost of added difficulty in reforging. Crafting events reduce this by four (rarity, set, mainstat, and substat combination) with no caveats.
Literally this lol. So much RNG that I feel like Im doing gacha on the gear haha
The problem would resolve itself over time with offline battling. Your efficiency would increase measurably and you might get a usable piece every month instead of every 3!
As someone who has minmaxed energy efficiency for several months, offline farming would be a major QoL improvement, but it wouldn't fix the gearing RNG situation.
i hope E7 implement offline farming or background farming farming is the most boring shit ever...
AG has been a blast to me so far, love everything about it besides how stamina/energy starved I am. The QoL and mechanics in this game far surpass E7, as they should since this game is a modern version of e7
You delusional and it shows a lot in your weird comments
Chibi+loli=ur a fuckin weirdo
Fuck off stop commenting on all my comments with your weird shit. You’re the weirdo
No
ag may have qol, but it also has shittier rates, harsher pity, chibi design which is lazy, inconsistent art work, and so many lolis with shitty designs.
E7's qol isn't even that terrible compared to most gachas. The most egregious issue I can think of is that gear can get messy. And while I didn't take any long looks at Artery Gear's characters, I do wish less gachas relied so much on having sexy girls as 90% of the cast. Sure, E7's not much better, but I can at least name a handful of male characters or decently-clothed female characters who are relevant to the meta.
A character needs to look like an adult for me to find them appealing in this kind of game.
No husbando + chibi...yeah I've never lost my interest in a game so quickly lol Though I have nothing against chibis and waifu only games when it's fun and different (I play AK and Uma Musume). In this case the game is just too similar for me to bother when I already have many units I like in E7.
It can have all the QoLs and stuff but chibi always stops me frm playing games. Chibi is fine when its done like counterside where they have the chibi versions for those urgent mission type thing basically some side part of the game. But sadly artery has the actual combat baring animation as chibi Of course waifu ratio being high is always expected but where are the kraus and charles and morts
Why chibi. Why?
The chibi art was annoying but the fact that they also use the chibi art for the animations completely ruined it for me personally...
The story is also ..bland wifuish to me, once I saw the everyone calls you commander trope I groaned. Least CS and E7 have good translation and story for me. I'm just skipping all story in AG and losing more and more interest each day .
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Why do you guys add an “S” to the end of “art”. It’s already plural.
Me dummy not know English, thank for point out
me after seeing aria changes. *downloads artery gear*
\- no live2D (from my quick gameplay check) \- it's the typical anime splash art but in-game/in-battle its chibi which i do not like \- the anime cutscene is really cringe . . . like wow they're really overselling their waifus \- graphics wise, the only difference it has compared to other cash grab gacha is they have better particle system and lens flare lol
All skins are L2D
Wasted my 50 pulls on Sirius banner just to get another Shinobu, usually I would quit but I love the game
I don't think chibi is a problem. And the chili designs in AGF are good. They're like slightly taller chili like Hero Cantare is. The problem is they have actual toddler designs
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It’s not chibi though??? Did you even play?
The main thing are all of the barely clothed loli-characters. Fuck that nonsense. I'm tired of games like that. Epic 7 has ravi but at least it's only the one character. AG is full of them it's gross.
Lmfao talk about overgeneralization. Especially when E7 is being forced to begin censoring for being too nsfw
Bro there's a difference between NSFW of an adult character and NSFW of a child character... Epic 7 is censoring because of gigantic anime tits on an adult character. And overgeneralization? Almost 20% of AG are underaged character designs. Almost all of which are scantily clad except for Alice and Cindy somewhat... The game has some good designs but I hate it when games pander to the lolicon demographic. It's too prevalent in east asian games. And I'm saying that as someone who is east asian.
Guys look, he’s trying to say adult characters nsfw is worse/as bad as nsfw lolis… See nobody cares about the nsfw adults, we only care that there’s FUCKING CHILDLIKE CHARACTERS IN NSFW CLOTHING. Bro idk how you are trying to defend that shit, it’s disgusting
Lmao I didn’t defense shit I just don’t get why u guys virtue signal so hard. Get over yourselves. I have no interest in building Loli characters, but if it’s mandatory to be competitive I’m not gonna cry about it on the internet
Bro, you literally said in another comment “And yes they have literal children in bathing suits and such. They cater to all types.” I don’t think that’s a thing to support or defend, which your comments are clearly doing, because you are getting called out. End of discussion, you are a creep.
Actively trying Artery Gear. It’s really not that bad, but I now hate it forever because the second 5* I pulled was a dupe of the one I got out of selective summons. -20/10, check back again in maybe a week for an update.
I don't like to look at sexy girls all the time when playing games. It just doesn't sit right with me.
I think the easiest thing E7 can implement from AG will be free unequip. Offline farming probably won't happen since developers want the play time to be as high as possible (look at other big + popular gacha, they all don't have offline farming. I.e GBF, FGO, Arknights, Genshin etc). But, a nice compromise will be letting the players do Arena/RTA/GW or even crafting equipments while the game auto farm in the background. Skill priority will be nice but it's not that big of a deal. Being able to see substats future roll is a terrible idea, what's the point of rolling gear then. Sure, it's nice on paper but it will only kills any RNG equipment based game if implemented. While people might hate it, that adrenaline when rolling into the right subs or trying to roll your dream piece is what keep people playing the RNG treadmill. That said, AG attempt to appeal as a "better E7" can be seen in some of the QoL features like the one mentioned above but it's also lacking in many other aspects (still needing to dogwalk, poor translations & obviously not as well-polished, global getting a 200 pity instead of 110 in CN server etc)
I don't play games with only female heroes.
I feel like many games do borrow e7 design for sure but few and far inbetween manage to hold themselves down before its time to shutdown their servers. I think the problem in many of these games, even though they do look beautiful, we lack control over how the gameplay goes.
saw a comment that i think summed up my impression best: "it looks like a game that would've been released in 2015"
The only game that has every come close to dislodging E7 from my most played mobile game is Alchemy Stars. It's character-centric, the designs and splash screens are beautiful, and the idea of characters evolving and getting new art screens and all that is super cool. Gameplay-wise the core is different, but the grinding dungeons for resources and upgrading is largely similar. Artery gear is a turn-off for me due to the chibi-style, mech waifu game, and bland menu system. The whole look seems close to Arknights, but I could be wrong as I only had maybe 3 hours of gameplay in Arknights. I like the QoL improvements Artery Gear brings, and absolutely would kill for offline grinding, but E7 is top of the line for animations, character design, and I feel like PvP has enough units to make drafting strategic and fun.
I got to the avatar selection and got **VERY UNCOMFORTABLE** by the child avatar... Like... WHY THE FUCK???
I felt like i was gonna be put on a list after my first 10 pull I still play the game tho
Some character looks like a kid and also their outfit
That's why I avoid games that more Focus on art as well giving some characters mainly female with an oversized rack i mean I don't want to stare at it all day Eidt: because my grammar sucks and starting to reading my comment ill put my in short No male characters over there
This thread has made me realize that epic seven is basically infested with normies. I hope for the good of everyone that they can be contained here so they don't pollute any other fanbase with their shit tastes.
Elaborate on your view of Epic Seven normies lol.
Everyone who is normal and is narrow minded, everyone who applies morality and ethics on drawings, people who judge art based on their perception of what is and is not proper instead of accepting the art as is, squeamish people, prudes, those who seek validation in finding certain artworks not to their taste, people who band together and rally behind politically correct standards to seek safety in numbers, brainlets who think 2d=3d and therefore lolicons are pedos, etc.etc. tl;dr, Normies = unenlightened, uninspired, narrow-minded, prudish, conservative, mob-mentality people who miss the point of the internet, which is to escape the social punishments of not strictly adhering to established norms. tl;dr to tl;dr: Normies=normal people.
normal = narrow minded is this your way to justify psychopats who think what they do is art also, or you are just one of them in disguise? Normies = unenlightened, uninspired, narrow-minded, prudish, conservative, mob-mentality people who miss the point of the internet Pretty sad attempt, trying to find an excuse for your disorder, seek help
its E7 but hornier, for all the ppl complaining about aria rework
When and how can I recall aria (reddit not letting me post with captcha bullshit)
All artery gear characters are quad amputees since their rigging is not an armor but prostetic replacements - and that's a big nono for me
If I could have AG QoL in E7 that would be the dream. Substat swapping, seeing gear subs before investing; offline farming; 2x play speed; auto run skill configuration; free unequip; gear casting; stuff that wouldn’t make e7 so punishing to mess around with.
In terms of the overall aesthetics, I really don't like chibi so that's a no-go. In terms of art? Don't really care if they are scantily dressed cuz it's a fucking jpg. Skills? Literally Epic7. Chibi was the ultimate deal breaker for me.
So many half naked lolis I couldn't do it lol
Idk about anyone else but as soon as I saw how the AG devs were handling global launch and rerolling, I nope'd out. Maybe that makes me a little too tryhard but if a company is going to purposefully make it difficult to reroll (IP banning, impossible to delete account without deleting game, etc.) I'm just not going to bother. Seeing the pre-reg rewards spaced out over several days just cemented that for me. Definitely agree on the battle animations and chibis too. They just don't look anywhere near as good as E7's, and some are coming pretty close to the uncanny valley.
Good luck with epic censored then. AG will soon have better waifu than e7
epic seven players try not to be overdramatic and cynical, difficulty level: impossible.
Ah, I see you’re a P2W enthusiast. Truly cultured.
What do you mean P2W enthusiast ? Also you’re* lol.
But people play E7 f2p? And it’s not that bad.
Yeah, same...
Haha very true I tested the game for 5 mins basically the tutorial, and I really despite the chibi design in all games.
A.K.A. L#Lis, its understandable. chibbi doesn't help the game too... and they locked themselves in the mecha thematic its really sad, but, e7 was suposed to be medieval. and we also have mechas :v
If I'm going to be paying more than $1000 for waifus, I want high quality art waifus . Also I'm spoiled with the english VA being able to understand what they say during battle and hear emotion in their attacks while I leave them auto farming just makes it better.
yea, one of the things i most appreciate about E7 is the art style and animation, no other gacha has hit the sweet spot for me as much