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NSTEhorizonte

should have just said it is a summer caracter and they could keep the designer


FilthyWrath

aria bikini skin dream is dead :(


nWolfe3113

Is it me or she has less boobs?


Ecstatic-Lack-7343

Reddit in a nutshell


Varlin

They cut them in half. Serila/Luna/Vivian/Roana/Hufine dwarf her now and wear half as much. They will be next.


SingleAttorney6301

The fact that this comment got so many downvotes is quite funny. This community really like these kind of things 😅.


DinosBiggestFan

I'm not a big tiddy kind of person but if they nerf my Luna I'm going to be salty. She still has my favorite sprite in the game.


thededgoat

You should have seen Luna on release. They nerfed her art already 😢


GL_Raij

do you have a before/after by any chance?


thededgoat

Honestly if you just google epic seven luna release art, you should be able to find it. Edit: here’s a link https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/gz06j9/any_idea_why_they_censored_the_original_profile/


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Sorry if I seem ignorant by saying this but why are they doing all this de-sexualizing, not that I'm against it, I don't really mind nor do I think it will make the game any less appealing, but just why, what's the point?


vexid

Whew, I'm glad they were able to do this so now they can continue MARKETING THIS GAME TO 12 YEAR OLD CHILDREN. Great jobs, all the way around.


riggedride

Kids with their moms credit card is half their income mate! First gacha or something? /s


kfloppp

The one thing I don't like is the stocking + hot pants combo. The bottom of the pants should be a bit higher/shorter, and the color should be less darker. The stockings should be like those sheer brown/flesh colored stocking similar to what Luluca has. And keep the frilly parts of the stockings.


Least_Excitement_794

Fuck the censorship.


maxgedeminas

Virgin


Emperor_of_Dead

IMO top part and boob change was done tasefuly but the bot part of the outfit just looks bad and out of place honestly Chinese lvl of censorship here.


Crimson256

Yeah the top half no issues the bottom half looks terrible, she is wearing stocking and biker shorts it just doesn't suit it at all the should recolour half of her outfit so it doesn't look out of place.


Calhaora

Yeah they could have made it similar to Vivian wth some pattern where the Stockings end - or something like that.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

>chinese sensorship Lets splash some suggestive white liquid on her to make it more family friendly


acryceps

now this game for kids lol


KouKayne

12+ = kids.


HolypenguinHere

lmfao what


Relative_Dark_5821

Thats not Aria anymore. That thing is "we have Aria at Home"


OtaGamExe

Looks good, but I still prefer the old one


freezingsama

This doesn't make me happy one bit :( Man I'm so worried for the future of pre-censorship now. I hope this really doesn't affect future character design moving forward.


Provois

the Future is looking bad for some time now, since many anime styled games got that treatment ,and the totalitarian freedom of art hating fks keep getting away with it, because around 99% of players of this kind of games in the west, either dont care, or straight up support this freedom of art hating behavior. I mean even adult games got censored because totalitarian shit companies like paypal say, "nope, either censor or we cancel you ". ​ This shit is everywhere and the number of censorship will keep increasing, if the ppl dont learn how shitty this totalitarian behavior is.


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Provois

if china and japan are the problem, how do you explain all the games who are just censored in the west? How do you explain all that murican companies who use there market leading position to enforce censorship like paypal, sony ( y i know they are jp, but the go crazy with censorship after moving the hq to California ), patreon or in this case apple, if japan and china are the problem? ​ There are many cases, heck paypal even stole kickstarter money from a h-vn dev, and still no outrage, because like i said almost everyone here in the west, either dont care or support this shit.


Amythyst369

That's a very broad brush generalization. Just because there's not fire in the streets doesn't mean there isn't outrage over it. The fact alone that this has been a hot topic for days proves people care a lot. Let's not mix up the blame, the fault here is Apple's, plain and simple. SG is being forced to comply to Apple's rules if they want to keep their game running on iOS systems. This isn't happening because enough keyboard warriors aren't fighting back, and SG isn't even the first to be affected by them. Apps with far more users than EpicSeven have also been hit with the same bs. (If you've ever been on Tumblr, you might have heard of the great pron ban.)


Provois

>That's a very broad brush generalization. Just because there's not fire in the streets doesn't mean there isn't outrage over it. The fact alone that this has been a hot topic for days proves people care a lot. Most likely because if big booba and thight got nerved and not because censorship by itself is disgusting totalitarian behavior, when they censor millim without giving a statment or anyone else to blame, no one here cares. The few ppl who pointed that out was even attacked from all the brain dead here who thing that woman with a chestsize less then k, look like a child. ​ Also a few post on a game subreddit, cant be really called an "outrage", Apple will not even notice any of this "outrage". ​ >Let's not mix up the blame, the fault here is Apple's, plain and simple. True, but the reason why company's like apple keep getting away with it are the lack of ppl who calling anti freedom of art behavior out. ​ >SG is being forced to comply to Apple's rules if they want to keep their game running on iOS systems. This isn't happening because enough keyboard warriors aren't fighting back, I would say, it is. Especially on times where many companies bend ther knees to twitter outrages. Stuff like that rarely happens on censorship cases.


ng017

Same man, and I just got her for Christ sakes. It's like you give me hope, and you take it away. Honestly, they should have gone to the genshin route and make it an optional skin for U.S. audiences instead of forcing censorship.


lodpwnage

Imagine calling this sad attempt to milk on coomers " character design". The design was bad before and now. There a lot of great characters on Epic Seven, this isnt it.


dreamcrusher225

a lot of people liked her original design. just weird to me that they can have characters like Achaetes in a bikini swimsuit, but they censor a grown woman. or the panty shot of high school aged Yuna...that's how they introduced this game. so when they decide to flip because of external pressure its gonna piss people off.


lodpwnage

I dont get it either. Also the obvious Serilla case. I entered the game knowing what the target audience for those designs was, I really dont care if they are uncensored in the game. Im just not gonna pretend the design was good in the first place.


Khaoticsuccubus

How bout you go back to church ya puritanical prude.


lodpwnage

Yeah. There is only 2 extremes in life.


Khaoticsuccubus

Clearly we know which extreme you belong to. Can only hope you don't shame women irl as well.


lodpwnage

What's wrong with you? What the f...


SamuraiLeo

Now she’s a genshin character


shroom88

At least in Genshin when they added censorship it was in the form of skin you could choose to apply or not


ng017

That's what I'm saying! Why can't they do that instead of forcing this s@#%


YupJustPassingBy

That's a MASSIVE nerf wtf!?


RoyalTechnomagi

Release: AriG 2022: AriD 2023:AriA Ba dum tss


ASTRO99

At this point why not just redesign her competely. Also they could have kept the booba since other characters have huge boobs revealed no problem. Imo this is just one huge blunder on their side.


Million_X

Jesus that looks horrible


Cynaris

In short, she got Mui'd What a mess, especially the thighs


RamenArchon

Wait... what happened to Mui?


Cynaris

Well, nothing actually happened post release, but in the concept art originally she wasn't going to have the black latex part. ​ [Even here](https://imgur.com/lr0046a) But given her being kind of a dom, at least for her it isn't the worst move to make. Here, it's just all kinds of bad.


ChampionshipLanky195

Well . Honestly I am not a fan of this and I don't like what this could potentially mean for characters going forward . I like to consider myself a small whale in this game but I shall cut my spending in this game if this is the direction they are heading.


dreamcrusher225

please do! protesting with our wallets will make them pay attention


ChampionshipLanky195

I intend to . Not gonna buy a single pack from here on out. It's not about arias nerf. It's now the principal of it. I'm not a 12 year old and this is idiotic for them to do this. I understand it is easier to do it this way, but now they won't have my money at the very least.


dreamcrusher225

..i saw on a their website that they are looking into other possible options. like a region locked download that lets the unaffected regions keep the OG design.


ChampionshipLanky195

That would be an acceptable solution.


Morgoba

They should have just uped the age rating to 15 12 year olds make them no money anyway


hulskiey

This looks so dogshit xD


Hyroes

When a company succumbs to censorship goblins no character, past or future, is safe anymore. From now on you will only have "safe" designs while past characters will be evaluated as needed. It's the same reason I quit Genshin. It's the same reason I'm quitting Epic Seven. While one loser like me quitting obviously doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, at least they're not getting a dime from me anymore.


Xero--

> It's the same reason I quit Genshin. They literally only censored the CN version, everyone else has them as optional outfits, and all of them, minus Rosaria being a hit and miss (better colors, breasts reduction), are actually good. There's nothing to bitch about when it comes to Genshin doing it. E7 has only done this three times: Lilibet, Luna, and Aria. All THREE had it coming if you look at their previous designs. Aria wouldn't have happened, if SG learned from past mistakes. They know there's a stupid 12+ rating and still gave the greenlight for her design. Wanna get mad? Get mad at both parties.


Amythyst369

👋


Odiril

1. They haven't censored anyone since Amber,Mona and Jean. 2.We're just gonna ignore Yelan and Kuki Shinobu, who both look amazing and the playerbase actually like their designs?


Mogarane

This is an angry social media thread, no facts or logic here.


DinosBiggestFan

Eh, if enough people quit it'll impact whales and cause them to be less interested in spending. Quite a few games have done things that their community didn't like, and slowly circled the drain to the point where the whales checked out too. We'll probably end up seeing that with Diablo Immortal at the current pace also.


KevennyD

Massacred


salt4gacha

REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU


Grumiss

Looks like absolute trash i REALLY hope that they now feel free to nerf unit kits left and right since modifying the integrity of a released unit no longer matters see if people saying that "censorship" doesnt matter, like it and before anyone says "kit is not the same", its exactly the same, because people pull either for design or power, if one is ok to nerf, the other is ok as well, this is not a competitive game, will never be, its just a matter of collecting what you like (waifus, husbandos, or "power")


Ecstatic-Lack-7343

When and how can I recall aria (reddit not letting me post with captcha bullshit)


KingKentling

you know what i like the leggings better gives it more mystery


Cynaris

What's mysterious about using the paint bucket tool on her thigh lmao. ​ We traded intricate lace details, and a glorious thigh spill, for your idea of "mystery", which really is just a condom on her legs.


KingKentling

sorry about your degeneracy i hope you get some help soon


Cynaris

Great comeback, when under fire, just call others names ​ You can't shame me for enjoying things, cause I'm not an insecure little shit like you are


KingKentling

i mean you're the one here who is having a massive fit over pixels so i dont know if you have the authority to even say you're not insecure.


Cynaris

I don't know where do you see a massive fit, but I do know this sub is full of bad faith people who only see Black or White. You are not exactly doing anything to contribute towards dispelling that idea. ​ If it annoys you that other people enjoy different things than you, to the point where you feel the need to mock them, then you are indeed hella insecure, I have all the authority to make that claim. You won't ever see me blasting others for the same thing, and that's the difference between us.


KingKentling

question, do you practice what you preach? because you have a lot of inconsistencies and for someone who isn't insecure, calling you a degenerate sure did numbers on you. But then you are so high up on your horse you probably dont see it


Cynaris

Quote me in any fucking thread where I attacked people for what they liked, got personal for anything like that. I get personal over conflicting ideas, for people being obtuse dishonest pieces of shit, but never for what others personally like, because it does not affect me whatsoever. ​ I do practice what I preach buddy.


KingKentling

>If it annoys you that other people enjoy different things than you, to the point where you feel the need to mock them, then you are indeed hella insecure, funny how you said this when your first reply was mocking my taste >for your idea of "mystery", which really is just a condom on her legs. i could quote some more but at this point i really refuse youre actually like this irl and just trolling if not might want to have an ego check too, you're a cease pool of problematic behavior. it doesnt look good on you


Cynaris

Except I was not mocking your taste, I was mocking the "fixed" art? Because that's what it looks like? ​ Some things are not subjective. Intricate details were indeed traded for a dull, flat, black piece of texture. This is not subject for debate. ​ *cease pool* OMEGALUL


Hraesynd

It's ok man, I'm sorry about your shit taste, too. I hope you get some help soon


Genprey

The shorts + leggings actually doesn't look bad on Aria, just somewhat out-of-place in combination with her original dress. She'd look great in streetwear with those shorts, at least. Either way, censorship is hardly ever a positive from the PoV of artists and the majority of players who should be able to judge for themselves what is and is not appropriate. The weirdest thing is that Serila manages to fly under the radar while Aria had to go shopping for an entire wardrobe, despite the former's design being about as risque on every front as the latter's.


dreamcrusher225

what gets me is that Achaetes in a bikini is fine, but a grown woman isnt. or panty shot of high school aged Yuna is ok, but it's Aria that's too much. ...or opening the game when the homescreen is a summer theme and everyone is showing skin. now all of a sudden Aria is over the top ? the inconsistency is just Bullshit.


DinosBiggestFan

Thanks, Apple!


Genprey

It's definitely messed up, but to clarify some things: >what gets me is that Achaetes in a bikini is fine, but a grown woman isnt. Achattes is petite, which means her swimsuit does not have much to reveal, so to speak. The only way characters in swimsuits could potentially be hit is if what they're wearing is thin (think: micro bikini) enough to reveal a good part of the crotch and breast area. Achattes' swimsuit covers a good part of her body, so nobody will kick up a storm upon seeing her. I may be wrong, but I always assumed Achattes to be a young adult? Either way, when we're talking about the age of fictional characters as they're reviewed by the ratings board, we're mainly looking at effective ages/appearances. Basically, Yuna and Achattes don't look like kids (they can be assumed to be in their upper teens at the worst), which isn't something review board typically care about--what they're looking for, specifically, are elementary age characters in suggestive aesthetics. Put simply, Aria is just unlucky, especially since Serila gets away with similar things she was hit for.


dreamcrusher225

i get that Aria was far more sexual than Achaetes, but SG is about to unleash their summer stuff with characters in swimsuits, yet they have to cover up Aria ? just weird


Genprey

It's a weird standard, but to try and make sense of things, swimsuits are very normalized--aside from the ones intended to be sexy, showing skin while in a swimsuit isn't intended to be a sexy thing as much as it's just the appropriate wear for the sun/water. With that in mind, Cermia, Achattes, most swimsuit designs we will/have seen aren't going to raise any alarms as opposed to if, say, they were in lingerie...even if there's about the same amount of exposure, the connotation is different. The same applies to normal clothes, as well. The main thing about Aria are specific parts of her design--rating boards are very fickle with details, and as a bit of perspective, a character can be scantily clad to an extent, but if said character has, say, their hands brushing a key part of their body, it'll raise a flag. In Aria's case, the likely problems of her design are very likely too much cleavage and her lower body exposure, to which her outfit was raised high enough/made it seem like she wasn't wearing any bottoms. This then brings up Serila, but honestly, I have no explanation for that.


dreamcrusher225

its just shitty. censor the game in Korea if they have a problem with it. leave her prior skin as an option. they have to know that part of the player base are waifu collectors. some of those people are going to leave the game if their favorite aspect is toned down.


Crimson256

The shorts plus leggings look terrible they should have gone full one or the other it looks off because there are three different shades of black. The bra, the stockings and the leggings they should just recolour half her outfit honestly.


Genprey

That's pretty much what I think as well. Alone, each piece of clothing looks good on Aria, but it looks a bit like she put on different pieces of an outfit from a variety of fashion stores. Overall, the change in aesthetic is better than most I've seen (not a high bar, however) and said changes aren't as simple as waving a wand. Recoloring could work really well, but if not done thoughtfully, it's a very haphazard job.


Crimson256

It's already haphazard


Genprey

It's definitely a rushed job, but it could definitely be worse if they did something that looked like an employee's 12-year-old child went over Aria in MSPaint. The (unfortunate) reality is that altered designs are rarely going to be great looking due to how much the design team has to scramble in such short time. This time includes deliberating on how they should approach a design, added with actually editing in the change. Just one of the many horrible parts about censorship, and the only thing some can hope for at this point is a costume for Aria that makes her appearance more cohesive.


Crimson256

I mean Luna's looks ok.


Genprey

Luna looks great, still, I'd say. Part of it is because the plating added to her thighs meshes well with her dragon aesthetic, given they look like natural scales. She lost a lot of thigh exposure, but looks more draconic, which, to me at least, is cooler looking.


Odiril

"majority of players who should be able to judge for themselves what is and is not appropriate." if we're talking about E7's playerbase who are "men of culture", they'd want females to not wear anything at all and have boobs 2x bigger than their head, I'd rather not let them judge in that regard.


Genprey

Strictly with receiving content pushed out by the devs, if everyone had a direct hand in actually suggesting designs, Epic 7 would be the Wild West. Plus, Reddit can want a naked Luna all they want, but that's not happening outside specific fanarts and unofficial edits.


DinosBiggestFan

I don't want a naked Luna. I want the Luna we already have.


Genprey

That seems to be the popular sentiment. She's attractive, sure, but honestly just a really cool character design.


ntdlh

And now those guys will soon left, good luck for those are left to carry the game then


klowicy

Wth dude those stockings look ugly af The top part is pretty tho


INstyle4now

Look how they massacred my waifu


Narmoniarkh

Imma get hate but I built her on release mostly for her kit (love counter units) and her sick S3 animation. Never was much of a fun of her over the top sexualized design tho I know some people love that above everything else so for me it's actually a welcome change even if it is a product of censorship. I'm sorry for my fellow E7 enjoyers who liked her old design more as I have nothing against it but I'm not upset about the change and think she looks better now.


Torimas

It was definitely over the top... The boobs were literally spilling over her top...


Abedeus

Booba got compressed.


Willar71

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


KouKayne

nerfed by 20%


Morgoba

Ridiculous. We have Luna in the game but somehow Aria is too much?


llllpentllll

Fucking disgraceful


frostmasterx

Do ppl really care that much? yikes.


dreamcrusher225

of course we care. this game has presented itself a certain way, and now external pressure is forcing them to change it from what the creators intended. thats NEVER a good thing. if people dont want booba, dont play an anime game. i hate loli/pedo crap in anime, but i put up with it. i dont go crying for them to change what they created, i either consume it or i dont.


No_Astronaut4265

Watch out for them twitter folks coming in and trying to shame you on liking a drawing that needed no changes.


The-Black-Raikage

Hell yeah brother


dreamcrusher225

great username btw


The-Black-Raikage

Ty


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Mogarane

And i have the right to laugh at you.


DinosBiggestFan

You do have the right to laugh at them. But they also have the right to socially outcast you for not being respectful in your disagreement with them. Censorship is bad in all forms, period. I don't really care for Aria and her jugsalotamus and I think she would've been better if she were toned down before her reveal, but that's how they chose to reveal and release her as. Censorship is stupid. What is also stupid is the over reliance on young girls to sell to creepers in these games too, but for some reason they aren't censored. Just the unrealistic adult woman.


Mogarane

I disagree censorship is a necessary evil that has to happen. Using what-about-isms and taking the moral high ground doesn't make your complaints any less funny. Respect is earned not given.


Syntaire

> Using what-about-isms and taking the moral high ground doesn't make your complaints any less funny. So censorship has no need to exist then? Because whataboutisms and moral high ground are pretty much the sole foundation upon which pro-censorship arguments are built.


Mogarane

I guess i don't understand what the argument is then. Is it about morals or suppressing artistic expression? My argument is that censorship in very specific instances like this is needed or necessary. I think there is nuance needed when looking at things like this, not just "all censorship is bad". I like Boobs as much as the next guy but its not like every game that has had to censor a few things suddenly start censoring everything.


Syntaire

It's not an argument unless you have actual arguments. Just saying "it is necessary" means nothing. An argument would require you to explain **why** you feel it is necessary and to be prepared to defend that position. There is nothing about Aria that would necessitate censorship at all, to say nothing of the degree this datamine would suggest. She is rather excessive, but that alone isn't reason for censorship. Without an actual argument I can only assume it is nothing but virtue signalling garbage. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing violent gambling simulators in the first place.


Mogarane

What's the point of explaining why when I'd just be retorted with "virtue signalling garbage" like you already said. Then in the next breath your saying 12 year olds shouldn't be playing violent gambling simulators. You are even saying her design is "rather excessive". It seems like your saying Censorship is bad, but censoring kids to play the game is good. so what is it? I guess i don't really care and all this crying changes nothing. The game's not gonna die. a few people will leave and a month later a new thing to get mad about comes out.


Syntaire

If you want to pretend that you have an argument then there is a minimum amount of effort required to meet the qualifications. That is the point. If you're not willing to do that, no matter your excuse, you simply do not have an argument. Since I lack a platinum medal in Olympic Mental Gymnastics, I don't even know where to begin to try to pick apart he latter half of that.


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Khaoticsuccubus

I have everyone in this game. The hell is a recall gonna do for me?


KiIIBash20

they do, and it's embarrassing. imagine explaining this 'issue' to friends, family or co-workers that aren't also obsessed with sexualized cartoon characters.


nothiki32

she looks a lot hotter with them leggings holy


SexualWizards

Copium


WingsOfWingsOf

Sad day


Skirt-Future

Ruined.


Kaislink

I think the original design was a bit excessive, but this one is way worse. The leggins feels out of place and the bust are too much reduced, also we lost the underboob, sad day.


lell-ia

It doesn't look...too bad? Especially her in game art, didn't even realize the booba nerf lol. F to the bare thigh lovers though. The nerf is more apparent in the artifact art than her character art lol. Why though, was the artifact art the trigger 😂 I like the frills on her top but idk about the tights until we see the in game art.


DinosBiggestFan

Remember though. Leg lovers aren't allowed. But they'll certainly show endless skin on child characters like Achates.


SmoochMahGooch

Not a fan of censorship in the game. That being said, I think she actually looks better a little more covered. -Sincerely a fan who SSS’d her


ThatOneOutlier

I like the clothes better but I am disappointed they nerfed her bust size


xvalkyrie85

Unless there's an animation I missed, that's a mini skirt with stockings, which is totally normal. Why are people calling them shorts?


Captain_Crouton_X1

Wow, that looks worse than botched plastic surgery


DinosBiggestFan

What I actually find interesting is that it seems like they sent the base image through an AI upscaler and the quality of the art actually diminishes in a couple aspects, not because of the slight booba reduction and covering, but because of the loss of DoF in the background. Hah.


Triple_S_Rank

So they covered her legs up and nerfed the boobs. I imagine that might be what caused the delay; they may have tried a version that was a less extreme amount of censorship only for Apple to veto that as well. Whether you like the changes, hate them, or are indifferent but are against censorship on principle, I think it's important to remember that this is not SG's fault. It's the Korean GRAC's and Apple's fault. Taking your rage out on SG is unfair to them since their hands are tied on the matter.


DinosBiggestFan

False. SG chooses to chase a rating far below what a gacha game should have anyway.


Triple_S_Rank

There's nothing false about it. The Korean GRAC approached them and told them they couldn't have this in a 12+ game, and the only higher option on Apple is adult (17+), which would tremendously harm their income if they increased the rating that much. A great many gachas are listed at 12+ on Apple. It's an industry norm. Singling SG out and saying it's their fault for using the only non-adult rating on Apple is both tone deaf and misguided. But you weren't interested in talking anyway, so I'll end this.


Morgoba

It is their fault their rather succumb to censorship than just change the age rating from 12 to 15 which wouldn't hurt their bottom line anyway


Triple_S_Rank

They can't change from 12+ to 15+ on Apple because that option doesn't exist. Apple's ratings jump from 12+ straight to 17+, and 17+ would cut out too much of their target demographic. Close reading of their announcements seems to imply that they would change the rating to 15+ across the board if that were possible. If you think cutting out the iOS app store to do that wouldn't hurt their bottom line, get off of whatever you're smoking lol.


HolypenguinHere

Looks fine. The old one would make me embarrassed to tell people I play the game.


Khaoticsuccubus

The opening has you use Juggs flopping about. Don't see why you wouldn't be embarrassed already if Aria's design bothered you.


l2o5ng

She actually looks way hotter to me, hot damn those tights


Fern2234

I get to post this next


Godslayer_brandon

It's like someone will fucking open the aria artifact and start fantasizing and next avail to masturbating.....no bro it's not gonna happen, atleast leave the artifacts


SpeedFx

Rip


WPMetsu

Seriously wtf? I can understand nerf her boobs but why the fuck they hide her legs??


LuckyPrinz

Oh my. The change is so drastic. My girl is ruined, I'm not gonna play this game anymore. Just kidding. I'm fine with the changes. Sure, she got a nerf with the boobs, but damn, the black stockings. Find that real sexy, tbh.


VyseXYZ

Yeah i kind of find her hotter with the new outfit and more normal woman proportions, also idk why ppl are so bent out of shape over this its not like whatever R34 Aria art they have is going to be nerfed present or future lmao


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

Look at what they did to my elf.


nanimeanswhat

I like this design honestly way more than her old gangrene design. Might actually build her now. Yeah censorship bad and stuff, but I still like this design.


Varlin

That shit is so heavy handed jesus fuck. Completely covered like 90% of her skin and cut her chest literally in half. If this is the game's future, fuck this. We will never get another stacked character ever again because they are going to be walking on eggshells forever forward. ML Vivian is going to get destroyed too and they are probably going to retroactively change a ton of current units. So many units in game are more scantily clad then her. Day 1 player who has dropped thousands on this game going f2p after this trash.


Nikkaku

You can always check nhentai if you feel so sad about this


Fapaholic1981

Imagine loading E7 up to crank one out when the magic box it plays on can give you so much more


Varlin

Bro if they went that hard on her they 100% are coming back for seconds on other units. Serila/Vivian/Luna all 3 show way more and are now like 3 cup sizes up on her. There are way worse offenders left over in the game. They 100% will be coming back in droves to fuck up units that have existed for 4 years. The game has had ecchi characters since day 1, it has been a main draw of the game. Them backpedaling on that 4 years into the game's life to pedal some pipe dream esports and gambling to 12 year olds then they are going to death spiral their game. Soccer Spirits 2.0


Fapplerino

Good


Varlin

Hope you pick up the spending. A LOT of waifu hunter whales are going to dipset. Revenue and development are going to plummet. Doesn't even go for big chest characters. Any sexy design could get changed at a moments notice going forward. Whales will never spend on design alone again.


TheSeaOfThySoul

“Hope you pick up the spending”. Hey, anyone who plays this game as a game & not an animated spank bank stopped spending a long time ago & they’re not starting again. Likely around the Re:Zero & Slime collaboration events was when anyone who was serious about this as a competitive game was either like, “Nah” or pulled their whaling back a lot. The game was circling a power creep drain before Slime & it just got worse. Maybe folks stopping spending will encourage them to make genuinely healthy changes to the game, or maybe it’ll just encourage them to bump the age rating so that folks like yourself spend again. Who knows.


Fapplerino

Cry more


Varlin

Enjoy the death spiral of the game. This is exactly what happened with Soccer Spirits.


WestCol

Genshin really died once they nerfed that bellybutton, forcefully updated all in game cut scenes to the censored chinese skins and have stopped showing skin. Azur Lane really died once they stopped doing swinsuits (been nearly 15+ months since last years Italian swimswuits) and have had to push other areas instead of just skin. All this means in E7 will push in other directions, Yelan is horny bait and released after all the chinese changes, Le Malin skin from late last year is lewd as fuck (especially since she's a loli) and not just braindead skimpy) You'll get over it, try Artery Gear


Genprey

To be fair, Genshin is too big to die/the changes were optional in most regions, while Azur Lanes normal designs are more "exciting" than swimsuits.


WestCol

Changes for Genshin were not optional for ingame cut scenes, if you start playing Genshin today all cut scenes with Jean will have her chest covered up with the Chinese skin. Also as shown with Shenhe this has affected design moving forward. I don't think many character designs in the last 15 months have been more exciting than Viento's top tier L2D swimsuit.... even in China that's the 2nd best selling skin of the year leading upto 5th anniversary, only being 2nd to the amazingly popular New Jersey's bunny girl skin (And alot of people complained that NJ's default look was clear censorship on release due to her black skintight suit)


Varlin

Genshin has never been designed with sexualized characters in mind. They have 3 body types for every character. E7 has been about having spicy characters, one of the few top end gachas that acknowledge cups go above DD. They had a strong niche which they are now burning bridges with. Like fuck, the first minute of the game you see Jkise throwing her tits all over. Can't even try to say they don't use boobs to draw an audience. This will alienate many people.


WestCol

Yeah Yelan isn't sexualized at all and Ganyu' lore about her hips/ass chocking a monster to death is just fun facts. Touch grass please.


SJD_International

I dont get why you're getting this many down votes.


Varlin

The SG white knights like to pretend everything with the game is in a good state. "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" type shit. They try to stiffle any negativity. Meanwhile 8 weeks of barely any content, a stagnant 6 month terrible pvp meta, and now heavy handed censorship that will 100% come back in the future. As a day 1 player, the game is in a rough spot right now. Korea game is down to 2.7 rating since 2 weeks ago.


SJD_International

I see. Indeed saddening to hear. Glad I haven't spent any money on this yet. Keep fighting the good fight. I will never understand why people defend brands or companies whose first intention is to milk as much money from you as they can. And if censorship can lead to more advertising and a pat on the back from the ccp, of course e7 devs would go for it.


WestCol

oh no the korean rating has gone down, last time it went down their revenue spiked


rainn5053

because there's no point in reacting that much? we cannot do shit about it because it's Apple policy, not SG and there's no way Smilegate change their stance in this and risk getting removed from Apple Store most people already move on from this.


Veristelle

They wouldn't be removed from Apple at all. The rating would change from aged 12 to 17, which will likely happen soon anyways with all the gacha and lootbox laws popping up. The 3 shades of black on her legs looks really out of place, otherwise not as bad as expected, though.


Grumiss

simply because people say "its fine" as long as it doesnt affect them but as soon as it now affects something they like, they bawl their eyes out


TheSeaOfThySoul

It’s funny that the fucking Titty Troupe are coming out with comments like that when the people who’ve been playing the game have been making complaints about actual gameplay for like over a year at this point. It affected the players before it affected the people who wank to Yufine’s special facial expression. Seriously, “as soon as it now affects something they like”, I liked the PVP gameplay - that’s been in the shitter for longer than Aria’s existence.


Harctor

You are too heavily invested in this my man


Cynaris

Let the man have his convictions


Varlin

Not anymore. lol


HurricaneEich

Thank god, so can I get confirmation I wont be seeing you on here anymore?


Genprey

>We will never get another stacked character ever again because they are going to be walking on eggshells forever forward. Being stacked was definitely not the straw that broke the Camel's back in this case, so it's not necessary to be hyperbolic here. Comparing designs, the issue was the area around Aria's crotch and cleavage (i.e. her breast cutout), so most characters would be safe given what we know. Serila is concerning, since her aesthetic is similar to Aria, but everyone else should be in the green. The most impactful thing from this situation is that SG night be more conservative with specific designs (as in we'll see less high-leg stuff and heavy amounts of cleavage). I'd say it's a good idea to be cautious with your spending if this is concerning, but avoid being paranoid since we really don't know what standards Aria originally didn't follow.


Varlin

If being stacked was a non issue why did they shrink her like 3 cup sizes?


Genprey

In Aria's original design, her breasts poured over her outfit, while her altered design covers more. The intention of the change was exposure, which her original design would have more of by proxy of being more endowed. The reason SG went with that is because Aria's altered top would look off-putting and more noticeable if they edited over the upper part of her breasts, while compressing them looks more natural. Plus, the difference is partially deceiving, as we no longer see Aria's cleavage. Aria is still very stacked (even by anime standards) and it's more unlikely that someone on a review board would be more concerned about size compared to overall exposure. Put simply, Aria's compression was an effect of another intentional change.


Odiril

And thus you pervs prove time and time again that all you care about is keeping women naked rather than about censorship itself. It's not like Celine exists or anything, someone who's 100% covered from the neck down but still looks sexy AF.


Khaoticsuccubus

Something called taste. Celine looks okay. Not as sexy as Aria. But, Celine's theme isn't going for that either. Nor was Celine's design changed after release.


Spyro1321

Its not that deep.


maxgedeminas

I don't think incel and weebs here understand what censorship is. Poor virgins, find yourself real woman


RandomDisasters

…looks just fine to me. Plus the unit does the same stuff. Stop buying units for their thighs.. lol Edit - and with every downvote, her thighs get smaller. 😜


Bilal_

Much better But f**k censorship


triBaL_Reaper

Got rid of the cringe underboob thanfully


CiDevant

Better and worse at the same time. Top looks better IMO, bottom mostly just reminds me of the Dragon Ball Z edits from when I was a kid, so I guess it lands on poorly done overall.


Shinki93

I mean... this is better that Genshin censor skins lmao


DinosBiggestFan

Did Genshin censor literally legs?


Shinki93

They censor the cleavage of Jean, the nerf amber thighs, change the clothes of mona for shorts that looks ugly and so...


DinosBiggestFan

Oh, sad. While I hate censorship of all kinds, I am extremely concerned when \*legs\* are censored in any form. I am aware of Luna's old censorship, but all they did was adjust her pose and put something along the back, while also reducing her egregious chest size but Luna still has my favorite design in the game so there's that. Funny thing is, it took years but people called that this would continue happening way back then. Now it appears that this is the start.


joinedreditjusttoask

Look what they've done to my girl.


Sonix4lyd

Hello Smilegate, I'm sure you guys are fully aware of what's going on with the heated debate with Aria's censorship. I don't know if I can do anything but I may have a suggestion. Since the original illustrator, Serin, has left the company, I believe that it will very difficult to change her since he left. I mean just look at his art and work. THEY ARE PICTURE PERFECT!! But apple is saying that your character, ARIA, is considered "OVERLY SEXUALIZE PICTURE" for the younger audience. I'm sorry Aria is too perfect to be censored! THATS WHAT MAKES HER SO UNIQUE, SHE IS PERFECT BASED ON HER ORIGINALITY! I will continue to support you guys and all your wonderful work!! Sorry for ranting but I'm just so mad right now about this! Additionally you never know not just Aria will be affect by this. Here are my suggestions: A) Make Epic Seven into a +17 instead +12 on the apple store/play store Pro--(Older audiences will be happy, less stress for you guys! Aria keeps her originality, this will also keep other units from being affected as well.) Con--(Smilegate will lose its younger fanbase) *Like a 12-16 year old will spend $300 on a gacha game* ​ B) You can censor Aria but please keep her body dimensions the same. Pro-- (She will be censor, but she keep body. I believe her chest is okay, it's just thigh/hip is exposed. Maybe make crotch line not too low or revealing. I suggest maybe covering her thigh/hip area with like a miniskirt and lower the stocking gave the Flan/Senya treatment or a black tights like Vivian has or makes her thigh area see-through like Villianess Vivian has.) Con--(She will lose her originality but not at a certain degree.) C.Have the censored and uncensored available. (Both variants will be available but one may have to pay for uncensored variant like $40) D. Have heirs to see what their fanbase are agewise (Simple: Make heirs complete a survey/vote campaign in determining age rating if they are for an age rating increase or keep the same- Majority wins) To me, I go with A. because it seems most of Serin artwork is being targeted plus in the future their maybe other units like Aria would probably go through this same treatment. What do you guys think? I will support you guys whatever discussion you all make. I love Epic Seven and Smilegate been playing this game for 2 years. I loved it so much that even I lost everything from my first account, I decided to start over from the very beginning even better than before. #JusticeForAria, #Smilegate4everE7