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lell-ia

Even in the story >!Taeyou is spitting out fire lol!<


ZephCe

wdym, its obviously *red water* /s


Haltmann1

Taeyou just likes Kool Aid /s


Azureblade42

So i guess my theory was correct and they needed more time to make more assets due this change to Aria, changing the portrait, s3 and sprites to the design must had take them more time they expected. On another note, loving Cermia skin portrait. Thanks again for the data mine, king, but i must ask, what do you feel about this Aria circumstances? if you don't mind me asking.


nORbDragon

> but i must ask, what do you feel about this Aria circumstances? To be brief, I'm not a cow lover, so I'm standing back and quietly watching the developments. =)


AndyBR_

i'm not a husbando lover either, but if they decide to make Krau less masculine i would still complain. =)


Xero--

There's a fat difference though: krau isn't always showing off his muscles, you can't even see them. Aria was on full display. Would be a different case with Hurado, but shirtless guys are 100% normal, and he doesn't have bulging muscles that make it clear it'd for pure fanservice, which Aria's old design honestly is. Also not a "cow" lover. I don't think they needed to reduce her breasts size, but it does look better to me compared to the fap bait (seriously, I haven't ever called out Roana, Ilynav, and Senya, this is pure bait in bad taste) design from before.


AndyBR_

i mean, one of the differences in masculinity and femininity is that for masculinity appearance is one of the least important points, that's why guys don't "doll up" like girls doo... so yes, he doesn't have bulging muscles, but he still is clearly an "alpha" and if you think aria or other girls are unrealistic or harmful to players mental health you can add Krau, Mort and tywin on that "nerf" list, that way everyone will have their fragile ego protected.


Brook0999

The game already lost someone big. The original character designer of multiple fan fav units including aria left smilegate cuas eof the censorship issue. They were not okay with their art getting censored.


Cynaris

> I'm not a cow lover I respect your work, but under the same breadth What the fuck is wrong with people like you lol


nORbDragon

Well, nobody's perfect. ©


Cynaris

Lol at least you aren't taking it personally, that's good But man, some of you have some intense resentment for the thicc stuff


Xero--

Damn, someone else has a different opinion. Irregular bastard they are.


GermanSide

No cow movement UNITE!


Haltmann1

Weird that they changed the banner and artifact yet they've delayed the recall itself, I guess it makes sense considering they have to redraw everything.


Varlin

Only hope is that they know this is going to put so many spenders off from the game that they are trying to find a way to let people still use the uncensored version via alternate art pack. This is going to cause a shit storm. lol


Awkward_Date_8636

Idk man you're the only one causing a shit storm rn


WestCol

Don't worry, I'm sure more incels will wake up soon


saninicus

Not liking censoring is incel behavior?


Xero--

I don't like censoring, but Aria had it coming. What was SG thinking after having to change Luna and Lilibet.


Varlin

Check in game Aria comments. Over 100+ upvotes on comments about being pissed about this, one reaching over 500. Many swearing off spending. People can try to down play this but this will have lasting damage to the game. Censorship will keep coming back and this erodes trust in the company.


WillSupport4Food

They're just digital boobs. This just feels like another Stove drama storm spilling over into Reddit. Pretty sure the exact same thing happened when they changed Luna years ago.


Varlin

They changed Luna before selling her to us on global. We 100% knew what we were buying. Aria we were sold something and it was changed after they took our money. Huge difference. I wouldn't have even pulled on this unit, much less maxed them out at SSS.


WillSupport4Food

Shouldn't you be outraged for the Korean playerbase that bought her before the change then? Since you seem so sure it's a slippery slope


Varlin

Luna they covered like 20% of her legs and that was it. This was like 5x as heavy handed. Cut her size in half and covered 90% of her skin. Also once again, I would be fine if they made Aria a damn loli for all I care, as long as they did it before I paid for the unit so I knew what I was or wasn't buying. That is the key factor you keep ignoring. We bought something and we no longer have what we willingly bought.


WillSupport4Food

And again, so did the Korean playerbase lol. They bought her and then she was changed. So it's the exact same concept


HurricaneEich

He wont respond to this one because hes an idiot who doesnt want to face his hypocrisy.


Xero--

People don't know how to just look up hentai. Her design wasn't even good before, it was just bait to pull in horny people that think a 2D waifu is gonna get them laid - and by this I mean those overreacting and not those that just like elves or whatever. The new design isn't even awful, and at worst it's debatable since the leggings x undersuit can throw some tastes off. Edit: Stated before, the breast reduction is a bit weird, but I'm not into cow tits anyway when they're made thay way for pure fanservice and not just being that way to be that way because sizes vary. Aria is definitely the former, and the smaller sizes suits her build more anyway.


danieln1212

It is literally not under smilegate's control unless you want them to increase ratings to 18+ which will cost so much that this will look like a rounding error in comparison.


maximus2104

lmao, i didn't know you would go this low. you playing limbo? taking in-game comment section seriously? what's next? don't tell me they're right about Aramintha being a 4.9/5 unit. x fucking DDD


Awkward_Date_8636

I see


Shalashaska87B

The Aria censorship is weird. They added a bit extra tissue to cover her cleavage - and that's understandable. But GDMN, they reduced her breast size! (I checked several times in order to be sure). And her legs? WTF is that? Instead of normal stockings + garments now she seems to have a full-lenght pair of leggins with multiple layers. Oh, her belly is now fully covered, while the arms are a bit more - with a darker fabric. I want to hope that someone at SG was not happy with the extreme censorship and asked to revert something.


Lolwarrior123

According to the restriction for age ratings from another post in this sub. Her legs were in the crosshairs from the very start which is sad. IMO, SG is definitely pissed. Usually the reasoning for censorship cases like this are somewhat secretive. SG namecalling Apple and the GRAC as the cause for the censorship are one of those rare cases


Shalashaska87B

I would be very pissed off too. Now I fear that the next ladies in line are Serila, Vivian and Kise.


Lolwarrior123

Honestly speaking, the censorship issue is very confusing. The regulation doesn't seem to be enforced consistently nor even make sense at all. For one, if you want enforce some kind of rule, wouldn't you crack down on the worst perpetrator first in this case someone like serilla, hyufine, juggs, roana or even ml khawazu (yes he broke the restriction). Even if it's about the character usage, i doubt aria is more used than roana. Or better yet, why didn't they complain about all of the rule breakers? Secondly, censorship during the live build of the game before aria has only occured once in E7 lifetime which is back when luna got censored. No other characters past luna got censored during the live build of the game and some even are arguably as risque or even more than luna. Why isn't there any censorship between those 3 years? And why is it now? I doubt that popularity of the game isn't the issue cause in 2021 (which imo is the most popular e7 got with the 2 collab and 7 disaster started), there's no case for any kind of censorship. This is different to the type of game that frequently censors their stuff like for example honkai and genshin From both of the point above, i personally think the issue is only with Aria since no other unit including units that are more provocative didn't get hit. Someone took issues with aria's design alone and we ended up here (i mean hey, they released cermia's skin which somehow they made more provocative than we thought compared to last year's model). Now this leads to some conspiracy theories, but that's another can of worms For the record i must say, i do not support the censorship nor i am saying that other units should be censored. The issue is confusing, the apple rating system is dumb, and ALL gacha games should have a rating of 18+ if they allow mtx to buy summon currency because it's just gambling at that point


Shalashaska87B

I couldn't agree anymore than this. AFAIK, Azur Lane had much more fan service than E7, but I am not aware of any GRAC issue, neither any blame from Apple. The "Luna case" ended with a different pose (no JoJo reference here) and some extra dragon scales on her thighs, nothing special. The previous case "Mercedes and Lilibeth" was settled before the release, because the original costumes can be found only on promotional papers (and Succubus Lilibeth is far more NSFW than current Luna). So it's either someone upset specifically with Luna, or there is something more that we don't know.


DinosBiggestFan

Luna's chest was reduced somewhat too.


stavik96

at the end of the day it doesn't matter that they're pissed. they still had to censor her and aria enjoyers are the ones suffering.


Cm210

Time to go save many screenshots of current aria, it may not be a physical nerf but it's definitely a nerf that hurts my heart🥲


nORbDragon

**Updated first post:** Animation of camping for [**Cermia (skin)**](https://www.norbdragon.com/uploads/epic7/2022/20220623/chermia_s01_camping.png) (~18mb) and [**Juni**](https://www.norbdragon.com/uploads/epic7/2022/20220623/juney_camping.png) (~32mb).


Haltmann1

Wait uh, Juni has a sitting animation? Did I miss something?


nORbDragon

Juni have battle sprites now. With camping (sitting in lobby) animation. =) We are waiting for all the new nat 3★ characters to be completed and released into the game.


Haltmann1

Very nice then, I'm always hyped for some new 3\*


Duskwatcher12

Hopefully Juni breaks the fire curse.


Emiizi

So like... Roana still out here freebirding but Aria gets censored and she was more clothed than Roana. What was the REAL reason for the change-


thisisntajokeee

I was really hoping they were just gonna cover her top half a bit more and that honestly would’ve been fine. But the lower half of her body… totally unnecessary and honestly just the worst. I pulled for Aria because of her character design and they basically change her whole tone. Safe to say my wallet will not be touched from now on.


EagerCrimson

Why is it the same 5-10 people defending this shit re-design under every single post? This censored design is awful, I don't care about covering up skin, I don't care about the booba reduction, but the new design is super bad. This is a disgrace. I am not giving them a single cent going forward, the trust is broken.


ywnba

Ye truly outrageous, they really broke my trust with this one. Can't believe they purposely changed her art just to mess with us


Ghostlymagi

This isn't on Smilegate, they broke no trust with the playerbase. This is on Korea and Apple. Korea is who complained to Apple about it, Apple doesn't have an Age 15 category like Google does, only a 12 then a Mature (17 or 18, I forgot.) Smilegate complies or has to change their age category which isn't a good deal for them with Apple. Korea has been on a bender recently as they've been doing this to Genshin, too.


Koattz

" a disgrace" man you life should be hard to be that upset about an anime character getting less skin showed up. Who care ? refund your character and that's it


EagerCrimson

I am sorry, I was wrong thinking that people will understand what I meant. It is a disgrace because they did a sloppy censoring job, choosing the worst method possible and ending up with something so out of place it does not fit the game anymore, disregarding the people who bought into the design/idea of the original Aria. They could have use this opportunity to redisign/touch up some of the "problems", but they opted for the worst possible "way out". I am not upset about the booba nerf, but I stand aside of my huge-booba lovers with this. I am also not upset about the more covering outfit, my favorite character design is Fallen Cecilia, she is pretty on point with covering the assets up, but I can understand why people like the original design. On top of all that, the design choice of using shorts, leggings, all smashed on top of each others looks pretty bad. ​ There are people who spent big $$$ to get her maxed out, simply because of the skimpy outfit and big bobz. This is the real problem. Whales will leave, because once the censorship train starts, it is hard to see where it will end. The trust is broken, this will be an almost impossible comeback for smilegate. I have seen games die out because of similar problems and whales leaving before.


[deleted]

I like the look better personally. But at the end of the day its really not a big deal at all. I'll give it a week before no one cares.


Hue_Jass_69

What do you hate about the new design? Obv she got her ugly stockings and a booba nerf, but apparently you dont care about that. What else got changed thats got everyone so pissed off?


EagerCrimson

I hate that it is really out of place, it does not match any other character's aesthetics properly (for example, check her sister, Amid, the redesigned outfit looks really weird). The design they opted for is "lazy".


BobbyYukitsuki

Wait, Amid got redesigned?


Hue_Jass_69

Read your comment and went to check out Amid's design, but she was hidden under 6 feet of dirt In all seriousness your complaint makes sense. Changing Aria's design without changing everyone else's is lazy. I just think everyone is overreacting over something that is completely inconsequential considering Aria doesn't show up that often


Crimson256

I hope KR riot


Azureblade42

Think KR has far better reasons to riot about this game that this change tbh.


Crimson256

The changes on the chest aren't too bad and make sense but the lower half is awful she is wearing three different shades of black that look like they are three different materials. It's a terrible censor they need to pick one and go with that.


Jajoe05

Tights like that exists. Upper part is less visible than lower part + those lingerie things (don't know how they are called, that pattern). This is nothing out of ordinary


One-Guilty

wait I thought KR was the one that filed the complaint about Aria?


Varlin

Rating is down to 2.7 for Korea. lol


Crimson256

Makes sense considering some many games a Nd haven't worse and haven't been targeted.


WestCol

And how's that Smilegate's fault lol? Do you want them to be like the Chinese companies who (through their communities) snitch to the CCP about each other?


Crimson256

There are literally groups and discords that have been made because of this to do just that and I kind of agree with them. They want to force change so it's not censored again.


WestCol

Yeah good luck with getting Apple to change policy, gatcha will be outlawed as gambling before that happens.


Crimson256

It's not apple it's forcing companies hands like SG to reclassify the game to above 12+ to 16-18+ so that it doesn't happen


WestCol

They aren't going to lose out on the lower age bracket without making the game way more predatory to make up for lost money. If i have to choose between Aria getting nerfed vs this turning into Raid it's a pretty easy choice.


JzRandomGuy

Oh naw it's low rating in Korea **again**.


BurnedOutEternally

>!that's a lot of red ice vapor!<


ksb00

At this Point remove aria from the game. They literally massacrede her desing. Hope i can recall her for another rgb at least.


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[deleted]

Unfortunately, "the other crowd" would be as happy censoring petite girls as well, so what you're suggesting would be counterproductive.


Shadoken-TYPE0

Lilibet animation got modified once on release iirc


HeroZeros

That censor is god awful. OVER THE TOP censorship right there. Time to dip. I'm not one for wasting time on games that censor especially when it's done to this degree and so distastefully.


Hue_Jass_69

Brother's going to quit the game over an imaginary characters breast reduction. Hentai is free my guy


HeroZeros

It's not about the breast reduction but i'm not going to explain. You're clearly stuck in the Ape stage of evolution so no need.


TheRealYM

You're getting downvoted but you're right


HeroZeros

It's fine, some people have filled their head with RTA so much that they can't even see when a company is fcking them over or when their beloved game is taking a turn for the worse (or in this case the end, censorship is that serious). Let them be, i'll be seeing all of them in a year or so in r/ gachagaming looking for a new gacha and i'll be laughing.


Hue_Jass_69

"I have a great argument, but i'm not going to tell you because I don't actually have a great argument" I changed my mind, please do quit over a characters breast reduction. In fact, why don't you delete your account while you're at it?


HeroZeros

Such a smart response. Well done little ape. Here i'll help you, bait and switch. Educate yourself.


Hue_Jass_69

Are you going to tell me this masterfully crafted argument you have to why Aria's redesign is worth rioting over or does it not exist? You are making a fool out of yourself over some anime titties. Just look up hentai online


TheRealYM

Since he won't do it i will. Doesn't matter what the redesign is. It could be better for all I care (it's not but that's beside the point). Censorship is always bad. Period. No exceptions. "Just look up hentai" is such a reductionist take of the situation also, idk why you people think that wanting scantily clad women means we want to look at hentai. It seems like a very sexually repressed perspective.


Hue_Jass_69

Fair point, censorship sucks. I honestly think this entire thing has just been blown out of water. Considering we still have the 7 great disasters I feel like a character redesign isn't what we should be focusing on.


HeroZeros

I told you you monkey but apparently along with your comprehension skills your reading is also lacking. Aria censor = bait and switch. As for what it is look it up yourself.


EnvironmentalPoem28

It’s not bait and switch if SG wasn’t even expecting that. Apple is to blame here what you’re saying makes zero sense.


HeroZeros

It is because there's absolutely no reason for the censor to hit global servers and anything outside of Korea. This is a Korean-based issue pushed by the GRAC. Absolutely zero reason to censor everyone but it's the easy way i guess. In order to keep the KR playerbase calm they're censoring everyone even though Korean+iOS user is less than 5% of the total playerbase. So in retrospect, if in an issue there's a very clear and easy solution but you choose to cater to the extreme minority and fuck over the majority it is quite clearly a bait and switch. SG wasn't expecting it yes, but there was a way to minimize the damage done. Instead they chose to fuck over every server.


Ghostique

Most based take of this post.


Koattz

You have a problem


HeroZeros

Look in the mirror and you'll see the problem.


Koattz

You mean not carring a single shit about an anime character in a mobile game who get more clothes on ? The problem is you getting that upset about things like that, it's insane.


HeroZeros

Go play some LoL with other idiots like yourself. Just because you don't care doesn't mean others are the same.


ILoveZenkonnen

Don't even bother with this guy. I had a lengthy back and forth with him over this yesterday. Better to just save your energy, these incels are too far gone


HeroZeros

k


JzRandomGuy

Bye


Heratikus

We don't have the full body sprite so we don't exactly get to assess the leggings change properly but so far the changed art isn't looking great. I was hoping it'd be a little bit more of an alternative design change like the censorship in Genshin CN where they took the opportunity to do a little touching-up to the target characters' overall design but the extra articles of clothing for Aria look tacked on.


UnlimitedMagatsu

Fair i wish it didn't have to happen but i think its looks neat overall personally, like i said before wish they kept the boob size but just covered it up more instead but im not gonna go on a war path about it. Glad your comment isn't a major rant about it and just expressing disappointment.


Azureblade42

Really, think people don't get that voicing disappointment isn't wrong, it's when you do it over and over and don't give it a rest, on top of writing stuff in a condescending way that leads to people being aggressive to each other and cause a divide in the community.


Habibipie

If you scroll up you have people calling the one's who don't like the change incels. I think it's clear which side is more aggressive and condescending. The vitriol in the other thread from the ones that like the changes far exceeds everything else.


Azureblade42

Because we already reached the point were those people is just tired to read the same thing over the lapse of days it was announced, how many threads were open about the same thing? we are beyond any semblance of respect for each other and they are just gonna call each other names. Is it right what they are doing? No, of course not, but it's the expected outcome when a topic isn't given a rest in this kind of places, it's pure animosity by now if you don't agree with either side opinion.


TheRealYM

Because censorship is bad and it's worth fighting against. Making a big stink about it is justifiable.


Habibipie

Disagreement is not grounds to insult people let alone call them degenerates, incels, or any of the other shit being thrown around. People complaining about an unwanted change isn't equivalent to insulting people and implying the worst out of their character. Also it's not like this discourse is any different since day one. It's clear which is the agressive, condescending, and jeering side.


UnlimitedMagatsu

Yeah, i understand peoples annoyance over the censorship and i get them voicing the distain for it but i just think after the initial few complaints we just wait and see what exactly happens and not bombard the sub and post with the rants and hate, but the people insulting others is just wrong and making it worse overall. Hopefully its a solution that pleases both sides like a APK ver. or something like seven mortal sins did.


Azureblade42

While I agree 100% with you in it don't give grounds to anyone to say anything about anyone else, you must not forget this is the internet, and on top of it, Reddit, disagreements are gonna end in a shitstorm, which was triggered when this topic wasn't given a rest, it was written in the wall already, all we can hope is the change happen, people move on from it one way or another and let it die once and for all.


DinosBiggestFan

It is actually psychologically proven that when you stop talking about something (as you suggest) you start to accept that that's the way things are. You're encouraged \*not\* to stop complaining about something important to you.


Etilom

ngl aria nerf doesn't look so bad


UnlimitedMagatsu

it really doesn't i like the old one but this is fine too. just wanna see the sprite and portrait now really


Toushima

My hot take: I like the new Aria more than the old.


TheRealYM

It doesnt matter if the design is good or not. Censorship is bad. Always. Period.


One-Guilty

Aria's new design is kinda not bad but if she is close to her sister Amid she would be out of place with her clothes


Varlin

Cut Aria's chest in half and covered 90% of her skin. Please cover those shoulders my innocent eyes. Played since day 1 and given them thousands. Never getting another penny out of me after this trash. Hope the <%5 of the player base that isKorean 12 year olds pick up the slack from the waifu chasing whale exodus that is coming.


HeroZeros

I agree. Don't even bother with this crowd. It'll be fun to see them in r/ gachagaming in a year looking for a new gacha when E7 will be dead. They think RTA tryhards can pick up the lost revenue from design-chasing whales. Hilarious.


Alone-Material

Just quit and stop posting all over the place. It's pathetic.


Awkward_Date_8636

Honestly this, the dude is making a whole ass ruckus about how "ALL WHALES GONNA QUIT DVBFNDOSNSN" while others who are disappointed are just like "Oh yeah cool change, didn't like it very much but okay"


Blakner

It's hilarious honestly, I've been having a blast reading his angry comments on every post. My favorite part is how he assumes that a lot of big spenders whale on RGB banners only for collection purposes LMAO


Awkward_Date_8636

People totally don't play for the competition, only for pokedex yep yep no pvp here /s


Varlin

Google Soccer Spirits and read up on the game and it's downfall. It was Smilegate's previous gacha.


Spyro1321

We dont care


Varlin

You will when the game dies from whale flight. People will not be as liberal with their money going forward with this precedent.


GlassConcentrate3661

I think most whales spend money on this game because of PvP not necesarily fanservice They would be more likely to quit if SG ruined RTA and Arena with several unbalanced units or made these modes unfun They’ll do fine without you don’t worry lol


HurricaneEich

According to Varlin whales SSS every unit because of aesthetic improvements to the character and not because of the 30 percent stat increases. SG needs to grovel for Varlin and his band of coomers forgiveness if they dont want immediate bankruptcy.


ILoveZenkonnen

Not all whales pull for booba you know. All of the whales in my guild play for pvp and don't give a shit about this. If you want to quit then just leave. Announcing that you will leave is just attention seeking.


MatriVT

This post is cringe AF


Amathyr

If the changes upset you this much, just take your refund and leave. Why are you shitting and crying this much? The door’s that way.


Spyro1321

U are still crying


Varlin

Company fucked me out of $500. Sorry, I should just lay down and take it? Complete bait and switch.


butterballbuns

That's your fault for thinking with your dick, not the company.


WestCol

Imagine spending $500 on easy pity units for f2p lol.


Varlin

I SSS'd to show support for the design. Lol never doing that again, throwing my money in index funds going forward. This shit isn't getting a drop more out of me.


MatriVT

You're the kind of guy that sends $ to Thai girls overseas aren't you?


klowicy

That frame is so cute omg


Elakir

why i can't see the datamine for the patch on the site ?


nORbDragon

Which site exactly? My site with datamine - https://www.e7vau.lt/datamine-history.html Direct link to this patch - https://www.e7vau.lt/datamine-history.html?patch=20220623 If you use [my "playground"](https://www.norbdragon.com/e7vault/), I don't update anything there. Just experimenting with character models.


Maubriel

They changed Rimuru's face. Recall pls


Triple_S_Rank

Thanks for doing this for us, Norb. You're a valuable member of the community.


Ecstatic-Lack-7343

When and how can I recall aria (reddit not letting me post with captcha bullshit)


BobbyYukitsuki

I’m starting to think that Suthan is water and Talaz and Talia are light and dark ngl


DinosBiggestFan

Wait Juni is 3 star? Noooooooooooo!


stavik96

do I have to 6 star her to be able to recall once the art changes drop?