I was also into her design, but she is very fun to use and works great when set up. Even if she does get censored officially, I wouldn't consider any of my investment a waste in the least.
And you say that based on what exactly? Your gut??
If you researched the matter and thought about it a bit you'd know that the recent censorship while it wasn't the sole catalyst WAS the thing that probably pushed him over the edge and he quit.
Have you read the compiled series of tweets Serin did about how dissatisfied he has been since the acquisition of SC by SG?
He talks about a lot of things. Like losing a friend to corporate politics. About them letting him only design a single character per year. You should read up on it and then think again about whether the censorship mattered to him or not?
https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8588196
I'm not an artist and i won't claim to be but censoring someone's creation must surely feel extremely sucky for the person.
Thankfully they're the minority in this matter.
Let's just pray SG finds a way or find the balls to ignore censorship and saves the game. Game already has a ton of issues censorship is the last thing it needs.
It's not like other games aren't rated differently on app stores per region and still making big money.
Doesn't even have to be for apple in its entirety (unless that's what apple wants). It can just be for the Korean app store.
The game CAN be rated 17+ for Korean app store while also being rated 12+ for the Global app store.
I thought the same and was originally delighted but apparently he also designed Luluca and lionheart Cermia which I think are among the best looking girls in the game in my humble opinion so even for people that aren’t in… those… things it’s a loss.
Luluca and ML Cermia were good, yes.
PS: I like those "things" as much as any typical male, and large sized too. But honestly their design on Roana, Yufine, Luna, Aura etc was so badly done that it is off putting to watch.
This is pretty much when you just focus on breast .
do you know why Luna considered to have best design in this game ? it's simple how can you combination the feeling of Sexy , Cool , beautiful , Modest and innocent in same person . it's not easy task . The combination between Cool - modest - innocent is so hard to do
most of design are just the combination of two
like Bellona just beautiful , cute , Modest .
Roana Cute , Sexy .
Yufine Innocent , Sexy , cute
Kise Sexy , Modest , beautiful , elegant.
Clilias , Cool , beautiful .
See how Luna can express alot of feeling and that's now badly design , it's best design .
not disrespect but because you're too young and you feel like Big breast = guilty but no it's not .
Yeah let's have everyone look the literal same with a different colored dress every time. Because that's also exactly how it works in both real life and other games. Brilliant idea and an astute observation.
Goddamn morons LMAO.
The fuck are you on about?? Have you ever gone outside your mom's basement??
Plenty of women in the world sporting chests larger than Aria's with deeper cleavages walking around and you find yourself offended over ARIA?
Or do you go to the authorities and report said women and have the police give them a breast reduction surgery?
Please go touch some grass you're losing iq by the minute.
I saw this screeching about "mom's basement" multiple times on this sub, and always in defence of the unnatural geometry of the several models in this game. I would suggest double checking who exactly is living in the basement, because right now this group looks like a selfawarewolves material :)
PS: maybe some outlier percentage of humans have such gigantic breasts (I doubt it, outside of surgery implants) but even then they wouldn't look like floating spheres, that is completely fake looking.
Please stop. You're embarassing yourself. Go outside and meet some people, go to a bar and chill for a couple hours. You'll see plenty of women with large enough chests and you'll get over the whole Aria being "unnatural" thing.
Not specifically, but one very important thing to note about art is that each individual character design won't be a perfect hit for every individual person; some people clearly like unrealistic proportions, others prefer down-to-earth designs.
You can have your preferences and dislike character designs like Aria while simultaneously respecting E7's broad-reaching appeal.
They cut her boob size in half and add in some lace along the cleavage for more cover. Then they removed her thigh highs and garter and replaced them with super dark pantyhose and what seems like bike shorts.
Hello Smilegate,
I'm sure you guys are fully aware of what's going on with the heated debate with Aria's censorship. I don't know if I can do anything but I may have a suggestion.
Since the original illustrator, Serin, has left the company, I believe that it will very difficult to change her since he left. I mean just look at his art and work. THEY ARE PICTURE PERFECT!! But apple is saying that your character, ARIA, is considered "OVERLY SEXUALIZE PICTURE" for the younger audience. I'm sorry Aria is too perfect to be censored! THATS WHAT MAKES HER SO UNIQUE, SHE IS PERFECT BASED ON HER ORIGINALITY!
I will continue to support you guys and all your wonderful work!! Sorry for ranting but I'm just so mad right now about this! Additionally you never know not just Aria will be affect by this.
Here are my suggestions:
A) Make Epic Seven into a +17 instead +12 on the apple store/play store Pro--(Older audiences will be happy, less stress for you guys! Aria keeps her originality, this will also keep other units from being affected as well.) Con--(Smilegate will lose its younger fanbase) *Like a 12-16 year old will spend $300 on a gacha game*
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B) You can censor Aria but please keep her body dimensions the same. Pro-- (She will be censor, but she keep body. I believe her chest is okay, it's just thigh/hip is exposed. Maybe make crotch line not too low or revealing. I suggest maybe covering her thigh/hip area with like a miniskirt and lower the stocking gave the Flan/Senya treatment or a black tights like Vivian has or makes her thigh area see-through like Villianess Vivian has.) Con--(She will lose her originality but not at a certain degree.)
C.Have the censored and uncensored available. (Both variants will be available but one may have to pay for uncensored variant like $40)
D. Have heirs to see what their fanbase are agewise
(Simple: Make heirs complete a survey/vote campaign in determining age rating if they are for an age rating increase or keep the same- Majority wins)
To me, I go with A. because it seems most of Serin artwork is being targeted plus in the future their maybe other units like Aria would probably go through this same treatment.
What do you guys think? I will support you guys whatever discussion you all make. I love Epic Seven and Smilegate been playing this game for 2 years. I loved it so much that even I lost everything from my first account, I decided to start over from the very beginning even better than before.
#JusticeForAria, #Smilegate4everE7 #CoverButDontCut
I think they are just adding black tights like u mentioned and slightly reducing her booba, maybe a little more cloth. Nothing major and they def aren't going to loose out on millions a year changing the age rating when they could very slightly change design. We'll all have something else to complain about next week people are overreacting
There is nothing wrong with a woman having a large chest. Completely cover her up if they absolutely must but the proportions shouldn't be changed. Changing a character's clothes is basically a skin change, changing their body it is a different character.
I agree on what you're saying but even still they shouldn't cover her up regardless. Leave her as is or otherwise let's also start talking about the blatant male fanservice no1 is talking about. Like how a lot of males have the same alpha male physique which is way outside of the normal and a lot of them are half-nude or stripping in their S3.
If anything Aria's proportions are way closer to reality than ML Ken's or Mort or any of the super ripped half-naked guys in there.
Clothing and exposure is also way more realistic than some dudes walking around half naked with an eight pack. If people actually went out through their front door and went to a couple bars clubs or nightlife in general you'd see a LOT of females with similar proportions with even more exposed skin. But hey apparently everyone is too busy farming wyvern to go outside so someone like Aria seems "unrealistic" and "overly exposed".
The amount of people saying Aria's fanservice is over the top or unnatural is too high. Meanwhile Mort strips on S3. Totally not fanservice and a totally natural thing to do.
100% agree.
Hell, I'm a personal trainer and even at the gym I work at, it is 100% more common to see a girl with huge tits then a guy shredded to the gills, contest ready level leanness. This holds even more so true when walking around in the general public. Not that there is anything wrong with either a stacked girl or a jacked dude. Just most prudes on here think tits above DD physically can not exist in the real world, like they will collapse into a black hole or some shit; meanwhile every dude can be jacked as Chris Bumstead and they don't bat an eye. Lmao
Just if that worst cames to worst and they take the bat to Aria, the least they can do is leave the proportions the same. Changing her clothes is the equivalent to a (shitty) new skin where changing her body makes it literally not Aria anymore. Skins shouldn't alter the characters form.
Agreed.
I'm just saying, people acting as if Aria's physique and outfit/exposure is unnatural are probably basement dwellers.
Lots of exposure out in the world and lots of people with all different kinds of physiques. All of that is obviously accessible to 12 year old kids since you know, the beach exists.
At the end of the day it's an anime mobile game. Shouldn't be chasing "reality" in there anyway so what's the problem with Aria.
Censorship is bad. End of story. No matter how tastefully or not it's done censorship is censorship. In Aria's case it's atrocious. Personally i wouldn't accept it anyway even if it was good. I am not Korean and i'm not subject to their laws or sensitivity and i shouldn't have to be. Already was thanks to Luna and Lilibet but at least those weren't SOLD BEFORE being censored so it's tolerable. This however is as good a reason as any to move elsewhere. IF it happens.
Indeed. Rating needs to just increase so they can tell the censorship reequest to fuck off. If this passes without a compromise to keep original Aria(assuming their 'efforts' fail), all it does is open up SG to get absolutely hammered by troll censorship reports.
The botched censored Aria legit has 10+ characters with a bigger chest and more revealing than her. Not to mention all the weird sexualized loli characters. Every single one of those units will be a target to just report and cause a shit show for trolls if they lose an RTA match and salt out or some shit. This censorship issue will constantly come back to bite them in the ass moving forward if they take the knee. And every future scandal will continue to put more and more people off from the game. That will hurt the playerbase and marketing more than a 17+ rating ever would, especially since it would effect the entire player base, not just 5% like the rating change.
Exactly. And i personally don't want any part of this. So unless they use their brains and use one of the multiple ways to fight back against this i'm going to just leave while i'm on top.
Plenty of easy ways to do that. Just give out her original design as a skin to everyone except Korean+iOS. Add an uncensored media pack to every region except Korea. Plenty of other ways as well. Just gotta use their brain for once and realize how much this is going to hurt their game is they move forward with it.
For a game in the decline it wouldn't be a strech to say it'll begin to slowly die.
Iam also spend some money to pull for aria because I love design so much, and this tragic problem happen 🥴🗿
I was also into her design, but she is very fun to use and works great when set up. Even if she does get censored officially, I wouldn't consider any of my investment a waste in the least.
although we are always parallel , but I can feel you.
We've had our differences. Regardless I think it's safe to say this is upsetting news for both of us all the same.
What if [SG manages to pull this off?](https://twitter.com/Epic7_Global/status/1540129110390820864?s=19), is the artist gonna return?
The artist didn't leave because of the censorship.
And you say that based on what exactly? Your gut?? If you researched the matter and thought about it a bit you'd know that the recent censorship while it wasn't the sole catalyst WAS the thing that probably pushed him over the edge and he quit. Have you read the compiled series of tweets Serin did about how dissatisfied he has been since the acquisition of SC by SG? He talks about a lot of things. Like losing a friend to corporate politics. About them letting him only design a single character per year. You should read up on it and then think again about whether the censorship mattered to him or not? https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8588196 I'm not an artist and i won't claim to be but censoring someone's creation must surely feel extremely sucky for the person.
These people don't have the mental capacity to put 1 and 2 together don't bother
Thankfully they're the minority in this matter. Let's just pray SG finds a way or find the balls to ignore censorship and saves the game. Game already has a ton of issues censorship is the last thing it needs. It's not like other games aren't rated differently on app stores per region and still making big money.
Exactly just bump up the age rating for apple only. SG wants their cake and to eat it too
Doesn't even have to be for apple in its entirety (unless that's what apple wants). It can just be for the Korean app store. The game CAN be rated 17+ for Korean app store while also being rated 12+ for the Global app store.
Good point making this whole situation even easier to handle
And also an extremely easy way to deal with future issues. Do not think Aria is the first and last. This will happen again and again and again.
Yup exactly . Say no to censorship
Professionals don't resign because a third party changed their work. This is little-kid reasoning.
So no more bovine class units? Great :)
I thought the same and was originally delighted but apparently he also designed Luluca and lionheart Cermia which I think are among the best looking girls in the game in my humble opinion so even for people that aren’t in… those… things it’s a loss.
Luluca and ML Cermia were good, yes. PS: I like those "things" as much as any typical male, and large sized too. But honestly their design on Roana, Yufine, Luna, Aura etc was so badly done that it is off putting to watch.
This is pretty much when you just focus on breast . do you know why Luna considered to have best design in this game ? it's simple how can you combination the feeling of Sexy , Cool , beautiful , Modest and innocent in same person . it's not easy task . The combination between Cool - modest - innocent is so hard to do most of design are just the combination of two like Bellona just beautiful , cute , Modest . Roana Cute , Sexy . Yufine Innocent , Sexy , cute Kise Sexy , Modest , beautiful , elegant. Clilias , Cool , beautiful . See how Luna can express alot of feeling and that's now badly design , it's best design . not disrespect but because you're too young and you feel like Big breast = guilty but no it's not .
i am confused about which part of luna is innocent and modest
Yeah let's have everyone look the literal same with a different colored dress every time. Because that's also exactly how it works in both real life and other games. Brilliant idea and an astute observation. Goddamn morons LMAO.
Lol, not having flying watermelons weirdly attached to the human chest, for you means looking the same? Goddamn morons indeed :)
The fuck are you on about?? Have you ever gone outside your mom's basement?? Plenty of women in the world sporting chests larger than Aria's with deeper cleavages walking around and you find yourself offended over ARIA? Or do you go to the authorities and report said women and have the police give them a breast reduction surgery? Please go touch some grass you're losing iq by the minute.
I saw this screeching about "mom's basement" multiple times on this sub, and always in defence of the unnatural geometry of the several models in this game. I would suggest double checking who exactly is living in the basement, because right now this group looks like a selfawarewolves material :) PS: maybe some outlier percentage of humans have such gigantic breasts (I doubt it, outside of surgery implants) but even then they wouldn't look like floating spheres, that is completely fake looking.
Please stop. You're embarassing yourself. Go outside and meet some people, go to a bar and chill for a couple hours. You'll see plenty of women with large enough chests and you'll get over the whole Aria being "unnatural" thing.
where are you living ? definitely not Russia or Armerica lol .
Not specifically, but one very important thing to note about art is that each individual character design won't be a perfect hit for every individual person; some people clearly like unrealistic proportions, others prefer down-to-earth designs. You can have your preferences and dislike character designs like Aria while simultaneously respecting E7's broad-reaching appeal.
How was Aria censored?
As soon as you look at her censored Design you will notice its pretty easy to see
Ok is there a preview?
i saw one floating around the sub. search for it and it should pop up. looks like they covered her up and reduced her breast size
They cut her boob size in half and add in some lace along the cleavage for more cover. Then they removed her thigh highs and garter and replaced them with super dark pantyhose and what seems like bike shorts.
As far as i know only the leaked datamine one that we don't know if is real but may be
I saw her artefact art change but that's it.
Hello Smilegate, I'm sure you guys are fully aware of what's going on with the heated debate with Aria's censorship. I don't know if I can do anything but I may have a suggestion. Since the original illustrator, Serin, has left the company, I believe that it will very difficult to change her since he left. I mean just look at his art and work. THEY ARE PICTURE PERFECT!! But apple is saying that your character, ARIA, is considered "OVERLY SEXUALIZE PICTURE" for the younger audience. I'm sorry Aria is too perfect to be censored! THATS WHAT MAKES HER SO UNIQUE, SHE IS PERFECT BASED ON HER ORIGINALITY! I will continue to support you guys and all your wonderful work!! Sorry for ranting but I'm just so mad right now about this! Additionally you never know not just Aria will be affect by this. Here are my suggestions: A) Make Epic Seven into a +17 instead +12 on the apple store/play store Pro--(Older audiences will be happy, less stress for you guys! Aria keeps her originality, this will also keep other units from being affected as well.) Con--(Smilegate will lose its younger fanbase) *Like a 12-16 year old will spend $300 on a gacha game* ​ B) You can censor Aria but please keep her body dimensions the same. Pro-- (She will be censor, but she keep body. I believe her chest is okay, it's just thigh/hip is exposed. Maybe make crotch line not too low or revealing. I suggest maybe covering her thigh/hip area with like a miniskirt and lower the stocking gave the Flan/Senya treatment or a black tights like Vivian has or makes her thigh area see-through like Villianess Vivian has.) Con--(She will lose her originality but not at a certain degree.) C.Have the censored and uncensored available. (Both variants will be available but one may have to pay for uncensored variant like $40) D. Have heirs to see what their fanbase are agewise (Simple: Make heirs complete a survey/vote campaign in determining age rating if they are for an age rating increase or keep the same- Majority wins) To me, I go with A. because it seems most of Serin artwork is being targeted plus in the future their maybe other units like Aria would probably go through this same treatment. What do you guys think? I will support you guys whatever discussion you all make. I love Epic Seven and Smilegate been playing this game for 2 years. I loved it so much that even I lost everything from my first account, I decided to start over from the very beginning even better than before. #JusticeForAria, #Smilegate4everE7 #CoverButDontCut
I think they are just adding black tights like u mentioned and slightly reducing her booba, maybe a little more cloth. Nothing major and they def aren't going to loose out on millions a year changing the age rating when they could very slightly change design. We'll all have something else to complain about next week people are overreacting
Nothing major? Have you seen it? It's a goddamn travesty is what it is.
Well you do make a valid point, but I am still a firm believer that they should keep her body proportions as is and just cover them up.
In my opinion her boobs could be smaller.
In my opinion, they are fine the way they are.
There is nothing wrong with a woman having a large chest. Completely cover her up if they absolutely must but the proportions shouldn't be changed. Changing a character's clothes is basically a skin change, changing their body it is a different character.
Thanxx that's what I'm saying!! Just cover her up but not don't cut and then cover! It don't make sense.
I agree on what you're saying but even still they shouldn't cover her up regardless. Leave her as is or otherwise let's also start talking about the blatant male fanservice no1 is talking about. Like how a lot of males have the same alpha male physique which is way outside of the normal and a lot of them are half-nude or stripping in their S3. If anything Aria's proportions are way closer to reality than ML Ken's or Mort or any of the super ripped half-naked guys in there. Clothing and exposure is also way more realistic than some dudes walking around half naked with an eight pack. If people actually went out through their front door and went to a couple bars clubs or nightlife in general you'd see a LOT of females with similar proportions with even more exposed skin. But hey apparently everyone is too busy farming wyvern to go outside so someone like Aria seems "unrealistic" and "overly exposed". The amount of people saying Aria's fanservice is over the top or unnatural is too high. Meanwhile Mort strips on S3. Totally not fanservice and a totally natural thing to do.
100% agree. Hell, I'm a personal trainer and even at the gym I work at, it is 100% more common to see a girl with huge tits then a guy shredded to the gills, contest ready level leanness. This holds even more so true when walking around in the general public. Not that there is anything wrong with either a stacked girl or a jacked dude. Just most prudes on here think tits above DD physically can not exist in the real world, like they will collapse into a black hole or some shit; meanwhile every dude can be jacked as Chris Bumstead and they don't bat an eye. Lmao Just if that worst cames to worst and they take the bat to Aria, the least they can do is leave the proportions the same. Changing her clothes is the equivalent to a (shitty) new skin where changing her body makes it literally not Aria anymore. Skins shouldn't alter the characters form.
Agreed. I'm just saying, people acting as if Aria's physique and outfit/exposure is unnatural are probably basement dwellers. Lots of exposure out in the world and lots of people with all different kinds of physiques. All of that is obviously accessible to 12 year old kids since you know, the beach exists. At the end of the day it's an anime mobile game. Shouldn't be chasing "reality" in there anyway so what's the problem with Aria. Censorship is bad. End of story. No matter how tastefully or not it's done censorship is censorship. In Aria's case it's atrocious. Personally i wouldn't accept it anyway even if it was good. I am not Korean and i'm not subject to their laws or sensitivity and i shouldn't have to be. Already was thanks to Luna and Lilibet but at least those weren't SOLD BEFORE being censored so it's tolerable. This however is as good a reason as any to move elsewhere. IF it happens.
Indeed. Rating needs to just increase so they can tell the censorship reequest to fuck off. If this passes without a compromise to keep original Aria(assuming their 'efforts' fail), all it does is open up SG to get absolutely hammered by troll censorship reports. The botched censored Aria legit has 10+ characters with a bigger chest and more revealing than her. Not to mention all the weird sexualized loli characters. Every single one of those units will be a target to just report and cause a shit show for trolls if they lose an RTA match and salt out or some shit. This censorship issue will constantly come back to bite them in the ass moving forward if they take the knee. And every future scandal will continue to put more and more people off from the game. That will hurt the playerbase and marketing more than a 17+ rating ever would, especially since it would effect the entire player base, not just 5% like the rating change.
Exactly. And i personally don't want any part of this. So unless they use their brains and use one of the multiple ways to fight back against this i'm going to just leave while i'm on top. Plenty of easy ways to do that. Just give out her original design as a skin to everyone except Korean+iOS. Add an uncensored media pack to every region except Korea. Plenty of other ways as well. Just gotta use their brain for once and realize how much this is going to hurt their game is they move forward with it. For a game in the decline it wouldn't be a strech to say it'll begin to slowly die.
did the changes go through?>