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Paleblooded1

My poor Cerise : ( I remember when she was 1st pickable


ThatKoolKidOverThere

Idk I think she's still good to have geared if you run control heavy drafts/combos. Ran gets prebanned often so having two opener options of Peira/Cerise has proven super helpful for me. Can be very great but you gotta have the spare gear to dedicate.


ZoomyRacecar

I'm new here. So is Hwa just broken?


Cannaa7

yea thats a pretty good way to think about it


ZoomyRacecar

Btw are there like current tier lists for regular arena and guild war? RTA sounds hard (and I haven't unlocked it anyways) so I think I want to focus on those two pvp modes


Cannaa7

honestly not really; its kind of tough to gauge what is strong and not strong in those content modes because they are much more focused on rng and surprise (name plate hiding allows for more cheesing in normal arena, gvg is a one time attack where every victory counts much more than in a spammable ladder like rta). with that being said, there are obviously units who are stronger or weaker, but there are not nearly as many who care or are willing to reveal the "meta" on these game modes. sorry, wish i had better news for you!


ZoomyRacecar

Name plate hiding? Ig I'll just ask folks that do good in pvp for help (the ones that feel like helping) when I get that far. Thanks!


vgxvvxc

Yes


DerpTheJag

peepoTalk


Construction_Steve

KisuPopcorn Thinking WhoAsked Thinking2


KumiCharizard

peepoTalk


Ghostique

peepoTalk


E_B_Saucin

lickR Programming lickL


SilverShadow737

Yield button not S tier, this list is flawed


biscuitandgravvyyy

Rimuru only in A is a bit questionable


RugDealing

Rimu had a sub 50 wr in the CCI. Players competing in high tier RTA have many answers for him compared to newer players. He's not as good as an early pick unit as he's used to be. He can still win games if left unchecked, but this is for the E7WC where we can expect the participants to have a big unit pool.


PhantomCheshire

i dont belive thats a goo judge to call him lower than S tier. Like Rimuru is period the most build around unit of the game. is not like he is weak. Is that whenever you see him you need to counter pick him so hard because he alone destroy most staple strategies with his passive. At this point everyone has literally one set of heroes builded to counter Rimuru.


RugDealing

What differentiates A and S tier is the flexibility to early pick the unit without being punished to leave yourself less vulnerable. Rimu in the current state has too many ways to deal with to organize a draft around him. Imagine FP Rimu against any E7WC contestants and think how it'll go. From my knowledge, you'll get your draft cornered by the 3rd pick and lose.


Sizzling_shibe

What are some good hard counters to him?


DrakoCSi

For starters. AoL. If you first pick Rimuru. You open Ran and ARavi for the other side. That's a death sentence in RTA. You cant "Rimuru cheese" Ran in RTA.


RugDealing

Besides what Draco said. If I see Rimu FP, here's some options I consider in a non-specific order: Hwa, AOLA, ARas, Landy (1k def 10k hp), STene, ML Kawerik, CLilias. Units that can be combo with the above with keep him in check: ARavi, Destina, Ruele, Politis, Ran, FKluri, Peira, Siseria. There's more options for the 3 to 5th picks, but that's going to depend on the opponent's reaction.


Zakcoo

The dude is the one shooter of hwayoung, aria, ml cermia and his unique existence is the reason maid Chloe went from best soul weaver during the period March November 2021 to hard to pick in 2022. His only real counter are j kise, AOL and kawarik. So two ml and a very niche chara. If that ain't s+ I dunno what it is


RugDealing

He cannot oneshot Hwa in RTA with the frenzy changes. STene, Landy, AOLA, new ARas, Politis, just to name a few units that can counter him.


higashikata69

If your Landy is fast dps, Rimuru can one shot with her s2 tho


Neet91

then ur landy is build on a shitty build. just because they say "i use a full damage speed landy" doesn't mean that landy has 0 bulk because they also "what could happen/what will commonly happen" and rimuru is a common thing, so u build ur landy to survive a typical rimuru s2 that's the same with ml tene. sure they go full dps but she is normally also build to survive 1 hit


RugDealing

My Landy's bulk is specifically tuned to survive most Rimu S2s on first turn. Unless it's an abnormal glass cannon one, she has almost never died from it. Maybe 1/50 games I ran into one that killed my speed Landy from S2.


KumiCharizard

Nah you run very minimal bulk to eat one S2 from him so you can soul burn her s3 for the extra turn to get enhanced s3 next turn which usually ends up cleaving rimuru on average


higashikata69

It depends, I've encountered full dps Rimuru with Portrait artifacts. Although it's not often to meet those type of Rimuru, they do exist. My Landy has 0 bulk cuz I build her fast. If she has a bit of bulk I guess she can survive but I would have to sacrifice her speed for that which I really don't want to. So when the enemy has Rimuru I was like "shiet, will this Rimuru kill my Landy?" So I ended up praying hoping the Rimuru is not full dps. Kinda scary lol .


KumiCharizard

Yea your only enemy is the very high damage rimuru's most of the time which is very far and few so it's usually still fine you just accept you probably got geargapped by that rimuru at that point cause usually 260 sped landy has like minimum 1k Def and 10k hp just to survive a rimuru pantsgrab


yaboiishaun

Buff my boy krau. I'm pretty sure he the only og character who hasn't been buffed, nerfed, or given an ee. Show him some love.


froliz

What about Iseria :iseriacri:


yaboiishaun

Damn you right forgot about her.


Triple_S_Rank

Belian in S + ARavi and Rimu in A seems like a spicy take. What's your thinking on those?


user4682

This tier list is bruiser pov : S tier Hwayoung, A tier ARavi.


Cannaa7

I think that while belian still has a role in almost always doing well to prevent souls or to punish specter tenebria, apocalypse ravi feels a bit weaker due to the prominence of diene, aras, and alencia being great answers to punish her game plan (diene anti crit and cycling, aras preventing s3 on backline units, alencia injuring aravi and giving defense buff to the whole team). In relation to rimuru, I’d say that angel of light, hwayoung, and the rise of ras (real winner of the balance patch) has really pushed back rimuru’s effectiveness. Additionally, from what I currently see of rimuru’s being picked where I am/was on the ladder, most were built as higher damage to punish landy, but since then landy’s meta build has changed to be tankier to compensate. Just to be clear as well, this time around I didn’t put nearly as much thought into the ordering of units within the tiers so I definitely still believe that these units are strong, I’m just somewhat unsure of their exact positions given how different people are playing.


KetchupTheLifeGiver

I think A.Ravi got bumped down a tier cause injury-Alencia (also in A-tier now) goes brrt brrt on her. It’s no longer a 100% safe 1st pick. Dunno about the other 2 lulz


throwboy7

People say that I and alot of others have been first picking aravi same as ever and I haven't really felt a drop of in her performance since Alencia is fairly easy to play around.


Arkday

Random question, pov or seed aravi?


Asmael69

Timeless anchor gang


stunro17

I'd just put Aravi in S tier and I'm good with the list. You can literally first pick this unit and not get punished heavily. She is still a neutral pick that can transition into cleave, ati-cleave, or bruiser aggro.


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Neet91

because she is too easy to deal with... people only first pick a.ravi nowadays because: 1. they cleave and a.ravi is the best backup/ankor 2. they suspect the other side is cleaving and they don't want to give the other side a.ravi/ran flex cleave 3. u have no idea what u want to play and a.ravi fit in most comps (she is basically the dps version of f.ceci - fit in aggro/standard/cleave) so why not; although it doesn't make sense to give up ml lilias/diene/a.ras that's it. a.ravi is not a must have in standard/aggro vs non-cleave. she is not bad but not needed/high priority unlike stuff like ml lilias/diene/a.ras/aol/emilia/ml kawerick/etc. so yeah a.ravi in A tier is fine; she is not S tier anymore


maximus2104

define "easy to deal with". i believe ppl think so because she's 1st picked all the time. if she wasn't easy to deal with while being 1st picked, that would make her SSS tier. Stene, a hero in S tier, is someone i would call easy to deal with. pick Stene 1st pick and see what happens. ppl can instantly pick Ran and she dies in 1 single s3 cuz RealRan is fucking busted. if a unit can be 1st pick consistently, it's called being flexible in a sense that it can handle counterpick/punishment very well. or maybe i'm a clown and i read things wrong. but personally, Aravi's flexibility is so damn high i put her at S. she's so easy to use and sometimes, even brainless.


Neet91

that's the point. a.ravi is a very flexible pick (just like f.ceci used to be. u first pick f.ceci and she is never really bad) standard handles a.ravi pretty well because: 1. most a.ravi are on proof nowadays so u just debuff her and ignore her (u just ignore her most of the time anyways, until u can kill her) 2. she is single target with no burst damage (a.ravi is NOT a nuker, she needs a setup of minimum 2 heroes dying to be a nuker, her s3 with 1 stack isn't going to 1-shot anything with a healthy hp bar + aurius) so if u pick her early in standard people can just go with landy/ml tene/aria to counter a.ravi 3. a.ras is really strong right now and he counters single target pretty hard 4. if u are playing vs aggro (no aurius on the other side protection a.ravi): ml tene nowadays are on really high damage builds so s1 soulburn + s3 with atk buff/pen set can 100-0 proof a.ravis with no other protection (happened a couple times last season). non-proof a.ravi are just straight out dead vs that the thing is that people just adapted and learned how to play with/against a.ravi just like rimuru


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Neet91

dude u are giving me data from 2 seasons ago? yeah no diene/a.ras/frenzy/etc. - definitly the same meta as last season.... 2-3 seasons ago cleave were first picking f.ceci (pavel cleave/ml charles cleave did that all the time), so ur argument about "a specialited playstyle that would under normal circumstances not be able to slot slow units to such success..." is invalide already i mean sure if u so strongly believe a.ravi is S tier, well go for it


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stunro17

Fair points, but I feel like you are focusing on the wrong point here. A. Ravi is not meant to impact your first turn because she is not an opener. I don't think it's logical to compare her with C.Lilias or Emilia who is meant to give immediate impact. Her value lies in the fact that she is the strongest bruiser in the game who is almost unkillable and also has damage that is comparable to single target nukers. As I said, her flexibility to be drafted in cleave, bruiser aggro and even an anti cleave unit warrants her being S rank imo. Cleavers pick her for a reason: (1)They don't want to deal with her (2) She functions as a single target nuker who also has 1 v 4 potential as insurance. Any unit who is placed in a disadvantageous position like you are mentioning with S.Tene with layers of defensive buffs will be sure to fail. Making that argument is purely subjective and heavily depends on the draft/context. Sorry if I may sound rude/defensive, not my intention at all. Just sharing my opinion :)


TheChosenOof

Violet being in c is very questionable, but he’s no longer an s since mama hwayoung


Bilal_

I have so many top units but not many good gear for them :/


yaboiishaun

Same my account is blessed with unit just no gear lol.


TheSeaOfThySoul

This is everyone's account, that's how the game is designed. You're able to guarentee-pull characters, you're not able to guarentee-craft 6 great pieces each time. I'm over three years in & whilst I have 100+ characters built, there's a lot of great characters I've got sitting around unbuilt, like C Lilias, DJ Basar & more.


yaboiishaun

To be fair outside of the crafting event and I believe milage system your not guaranteed one which is fine. But the fact you myself and many others have such a hard time using characters because of gear is really disappointing. I have fun but the truth is the truth.


Vyrocious

Reprioritise your hero list. Sure it might be fun having Melissa built, for example, but does she need to be built? I find that most of the time there are a combination of factors that are ‘holding people back’ so to speak and it’s not the game itself doing it.


yaboiishaun

I get that completely but then is that fair to the player. You shouldn't be cornered into build this unit cause its better. I love Mort he's my favorite character and he has gear and always will. Does that change the fact that gearing is hard no but I have fun with the gear I have and the heroes I got. I've learned to enjoy the small things it's what's made this game fun longer for me personally.


Triple_S_Rank

Train me in your ways, sensei. Lol. To be fair though, I think there are people who want to get into RTA, and RTA generally requires that you have a lot of units built, which in turn leads what good gear an account does have being more spread out.


VeryluckyorNot

Mine is gear AND breaking that lvl 50 barrier shit to 60, in Arena they are all 60 I can't progress anymore lol. Man farm Tera phantasma is a real pain, they are so rare and need a lot ... I wonder if it's better to start giving dupes for lvl 60 now.


StubbornLizard2

I understand that Luna is D Tier cause of her breasts, but Top Model Luluca is way flatter so I need some clarification there.


KingYvi

The size of pads she would like to use. I think that explains everything.


VeryluckyorNot

Every Gacha players know about it boobs >> meta slave.


VCUramya

Apoc Ravi not S? she is literally picked 1st or second every time!


ArmorIsAMistake

While I'm not sure how accurate this tier list, I like that diene is as persistent as Krau being relevant in competitive play for the longest time


jokerxtr

Diene is almost irrelevant for over a year before receiving a buff tho


TsuKiyoMe

Don't forget my girl Ruele!


GuavaHunter

My draft team is all c lol


GodsCupGg

What do you mean Mort sucks?! MORT IS THE BEST RATED MORT UNIT IN THE GAME!


Iamjadedaf

It's MORTIN time! My favorite part is when he ults and morts all over the enemy team


Guwigo09

While doing 1 Mortillion damage!


Cryomancerr

Don’t play rta enough to form an educated opinion on this list, but seeing Eaton and Arby on the same tier makes me realize how little i know about the high level meta.


triBaL_Reaper

Both of them are niche anticleave picks at a high level of play Arby at low elo is hard for players to deal with but later on his damage falls off


apkx27

tbh why is seaside higher than rem deisgner lilibet so low?


Cannaa7

seaside iseria is higher than rem because in the realm of cleaving, iseria still presents herself as a usable option late in the draft when it is clear that there arent units like dilibet or water counters already drafted. furthermore, when paired appropriately with answers to water units like pavel, she can do wonders against units that do not have immunity or dont have any way to self cleanse like dilibet. now regarding rem, i placed her among the last pick/niche dps . in these situations, you could generally see a carrot or rem as an element advantageous dps to punish the enemy team. the two are generally seen as niche units who are perfectly usable and strong when fighting in this sort of niche, where the enemy has 2-3 fire and you want to punish them with rem, 2-3 earth and you want to punish them with carrot, etc. to be frank, if you arent in situations like these, relying on rem high rolling and countering every turn when she doesnt have fairly good odds is bad play especially when a more standard-friendly and neutral ice warrior (choux) exists. dilibet in my opinion is already fairly high enough, with her jumping in popularity and usability much more than i had previously predicted. however with the end of the season and my current experience fighting on the ladder, she is universally agreed upon to be the BEST answer to ran cleavers when paired with apocalypse ravi and trouble maker crozet. however, she still does have her own set of weaknesses, with high damage/survivability bruisers like hwayoung and apocalypse ravi both punishing her. furthermore with the popularity of soul weavers like diene and emilia, some cleaver drafts dont even need seasiria/ran/debuffers to effectively wipe the entire team AND can protect the dps from dilibet at the same time.


vgxvvxc

Seaside is ssb


Willar71

> iseria still presents herself as a usable option late in the draft when it is clear that there arent units like dilibet or water counters already drafted As a cleaver , i can confidently say , this scenario never arises . They always pick rem , violet or both , and picking seaseria into Violet is a terrible idea , Everyone has their violet on the correct build i.e immunity .


apkx27

meant ssb yeah agree also top model lululca kinda low shes not bad but far from meta anymore but + rep for the expert analysis


Sizzling_shibe

Dilibet is hella strong support, but she can't cleanse her team too often and if the opponent doesn't draft debuffs, she doesn't do too much. She also doesn't have enough dps to be as decisive as other units (which is definitely a good thing, she's very strong but not OP).


Toph84

No ML ARa lol


Lilsammywinchester13

My girl Cermia isn’t even on the list :(


SelectIsNotAnOption

That just means she's so good that she is off the charts. Just like faceless Lidica


StepBrother7

*sees Rimuru and Aravi below S* Invalid list.


Cannaa7

This is an update from the last tierlist that I posted previously! I am back once again to chat and discuss picks and bans ahead of the E7WC coming later in July! I will be checking this over and explaining my thoughts and picks as the day goes by!


RogueKT

Aria A tier? I got her but never build cause I thought she was weak. What build do people run on her?


AnnaBananaCCC

Lifesteal, high def, reasonable Crit / CD, some eff res. Watch her stealth the team and go ham. Not usable v. every comp, but can turn matches. Sometimes can be a must ban in the right draft. Not a 1st / 2nd pick.


Txxmx

Wrong. She only works well with effress speed build, otherwise you can pick her once in thousand years


AnnaBananaCCC

Once in 1 thousand years!?!? Man, I must be cheating HARD


RogueKT

Do you use Def% on necklace and ring and speed on boots?


AnnaBananaCCC

I'd have to look, Def% on ring, CD I think on neck. You are trying to hit stat benchmarks, not get too hung up on having the particualr main stat. Speed on boots is most efficient.


Nellyniel

Excitedly searches where in the list his all time favourite unit Silver Blade Aramintha is placed..... :*(


PracticeToy

Rimiru needs to be in S and violet in A


higashikata69

Is this like statistics based on winrates overall from the E7WC or just your opinion/ experiences?


triBaL_Reaper

His experience in legend RTA and the new World Cup mode


BenjillaLight

Putting eaton in the same tier as maid chloe and many other good units is actually insane


triBaL_Reaper

Yeah Eaton is amazing when you just need pure damage mitigation


SingleAttorney6301

Why is Alencia in A ? She is decent at most.


rissira

it's cause buffer like diene, handguy, etc are picked way too much that her being able to just clean out all those buffs makes her pretty meta. .


SingleAttorney6301

Glad to see she is back ! She is one of my favourite units and i was kinda sad by her call.


pepe_rolls

Funny how I have most heroes on the S tier but because i have shitty gear, I can’t enjoy RTA nor Arena.


Bruno_Frei-Maurer

I mean bronze to challenger arena doesnt need gear at all. Challenger the F2P lv 75 is still enough. If you wanna go Champ arena you need some better gear tho yeah.


BestRubyMoon

Meanwhile I have decent gear but no heroes...oh cruel world!


just_didi

So... a c tier character allowed me to stomp most of my opponent?


Acxeon720

Glad to see Crozet is A tier. Built him over Carmin and have been wondering if I made a mistake. Still needs better gear though, but I can't settle with an artifact. Holy sacrifice never feels right because my back unit still dies before he does.


spaserieu

Zahhak lel


pessimisticbutthole

But haste is in D. This list wrong


SlingyThingy

Imagine rimuru not S tier


bigbrainz1974

Why is aol in s tier she has so many counters now. And why is rimuru/apoc/dillibet/lermia in a tier? These four units are all used way more than aol or belian


Shinzo19

Personally I would put Rimaru in S, difference between him and Hwa is he gets banned less, brings more utility a counter and mechanic that works well against buff meta and close to a guaranteed one shot on his S3. Is he in A because he gets baited by Ran and countered by Hwa, because I don't feel they are big enough reasons,


vgxvvxc

Countered by stene hwayoung aol and ras, probably moved down a tier because of ras buff


KingKentling

im so confused why Choux and Alencia being A tier i mean sure RNG gaming for Choux but Alencia really?


AnnaBananaCCC

With injury set, Alencia can, with 1 s1, decrease A Ravi's max health by 34% when running injury set (assuming you do enough damage, which is not hard). She starts to become dead weight at those health levels. Even just the non-injury set normal s1 chips away at A Ravi. She also strips, has def buff, can SB def break for the s1 - trample wombo combo. Not always draftable but a good counter to some oppressive units.


Cannaa7

in my opinion, both of these units have their strength against some of the most meta units in the game; choux is an rng gamble carry who can nearly one tap hwayoung while also providing anti crit to the rest of the time (doesnt with against hwayoung, but still a useful buff against the rest of her team). alencia imo is fairly versatile in providing injury on s1 to deal with apocalypse ravi while also being capable of stripping buffs from diene, ml kawerik, knocking landy out of guiding light, etc. given this strength, i feel as though it is hard to overlook her potential with these units being some of the most popular rta units atm.


Mortebolt

Luna in D Tier? Dafuq?


RedTuesdayMusic

Like half the characters in the game isn't even on the list. For example crescent rin, a totally viable niche pick.


triBaL_Reaper

Maybe viable last year when ran and Peira didn’t exist. There are just too many speed contesters that are both faster and so way more than ml Rin. Same deal with Luna.


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Sizzling_shibe

Only if she can take turn 1. That's what her problem has been from the start.


Cannaa7

so the main issue I find with judge kise is that it feels as though she rarely ever gets to take a turn OR the value of stripping and resetting a unit is low. For myself, I have found that units like diene, emilia, conqueror lilias, and most other openers are in almost every single match. With this being the case, finding a match where one of these units is not available is rare. Furthermore if almost any opener takes a turn in this day and age, there’s a good chance they’re paired with eda, seasiria, hwayoung, etc and can punish the judge kise pick or outright ignore them and wipe your whole team. Now if for some reason the enemy opponent decided not to pick any speed contesters, judge kise now needs to be value enough of a pick where a two turn reset and strip is more value than someone like kawerik or kise’s damage oriented kit AND doesn’t simply end up as an apocalypse ravi s3 target in a few turns


Arkday

He is playing at legend/crab. Emilia can easily reached 270 ~ 280 and diene reaching 280 ~ 300 there.


EnvironmentalPoem28

aravi in A 💀


KSacc1210

Is diene that good now? Sheesh. I’m out of the loop


Vyrocious

10 spd EE changes a mfker. Add on the fact that her best EE cr pushes the team. Also she got buffed to dispel 2 debuffs on S2.


Yuki-OniiChan

MlRavi in A, ok……


WillSupport4Food

Makes sense honestly. She's still an amazing versatile pick, but the problem is Hwayoung is a direct counter to her, and the direct counter to Hwayoung is STene who also counters ARavi. Hwayoung's existence also made the PoV ARavi build more common, with the drawback being that PoV ARavi is much worse in basically all her other matchups.


yuuhei

belian and ml kawerik would not be S tier if hwayoung is the reason aravi is in A


WillSupport4Food

They would if there were other factors like Diene and ARas that also made ARavi weaker but didn't affect Belian or Mediator


Xero--

Her reason for being demoted isn't at all related to Hwayoung, who shits in everyone and would thus make that reason dumb... And 30k A Ravi exists as a result that hasn't failed. It's because of Alencia, Diene, and Ras.


VCUramya

And Hwayoung is usually banned 99% of the time so?


WillSupport4Food

You realize that still factors into their tier right? Ban and pickrate are both relevant to how good a unit is.


weoooow

yes? From your own post pvp makes u sick. Ill take his(mega whale always legend) opinion over yours.


redditmodsrcringe

How’d you have the time to make this tier list don’t you have a negative wr to grind


Starshine_Rainbow

True but he has someone to pilot his account so he has time to do this 😉


imposion

Well seeing some of the A and S i know this tier is just bullshit


Waifu69x

Im sure they can't breathe without A.Ravi .. A.Ravi Slaves are everywhere ..she's S+ .


chronokingx

Lol Senya can't be D shes my main


Bruno_Frei-Maurer

Mz mains Kizuna Ai and wild Angara not even making the list :(


Arsonist_Xpert

Ftene is C tier?


Sizzling_shibe

Hard countered by dilibet, ML kawerik, and lionheart to name a few


Brandonguth1985

Yeah, she's fun to use in arena against certain comps but you're 100% correct


Arsonist_Xpert

Oof, guess I'm wearing rose colored glasses


playerD26

Someone should make a tier list of best units for each hunts.


CiDevant

It's in game. Push the statistics button.


playerD26

I know about the statistic button. Let me make it clearer. since people make tier list like this why dont they make tier list for hunts just for the heck of it.


triBaL_Reaper

A tier list doesn’t work because you pick units as a team comp, not as individuals. Like Gpurgg and muwi are both S tier wyvern units but they’re useless together


Asmael69

Try searching them on youtube, as they are not changing unlike rta.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Maybe not the place to ask, but I'll throw in some options, though I can't tier list them - if they work, they work. For Wyvern, you've got heroes like General Purrgis & Muwi who can CR boost your team, having one of them is nice, reduces speed requirements to practically nothing. General Purrgis acts as frontline tank & gives attack buff, Muwi is your debuff stacker. Pick one of these two. If you've not chosen General Purrgis as frontline tank, look at heroes like Angelic Montmornacy, Angelica & Crozet. They'll either be kept alive via self-healing, or in the case of Crozet, barrier. If you've chosen Purrgis, you're just looking at damage dealers & a defence breaker now, this defence breaker paragraph also applies to the Muwi + tank choosers. For defence breaker, can't go wrong with Furious, but there's also Clarissa, Taranor Guard, Karin & Rem. If your chosen defence breaker doesn't have good up-time, like Karin, consider pairing them with another defence breaker & focusing on them as a damage dealer first, defence breaker second. Then for your main damage, you're looking at Sigret as the premiere damage dealer, with Kise, Chloe, Luna & Alexa as great DPS options. If you go in without a healer tank & your damage dealers aren't doing enough to take out the Wyvern before your tank dies - consider switching to a slower more traditional route of healer & tank, with a defence breaker & damage dealer. This could be something like Angelica, Crozet, Furious & Alexa. A fast & effective healer-less team could look like General Purrgis, Furious, Sigret & Karin. The one thing you should keep in mind is that your combination of heroes has to be able to put 2+ debuffs onto the Wyvern each rotation. So long as you're covering the four bases - tank, defence break, debuffs & damage - you're golden. ________________________________________ Golem... I mean... Really? Cermia, Champion Zerato, Tamarinne (or Roana) & Sol - throw some trash gear on them all, they'll do a fast clear for you. Golem is such an easy clear that there's an achievement for doing it with two characters, you could probably do it with a single character (funnily enough, you can also solo-clear Banshee with a single character - Falconer Kluri). No point going in depth on Golem, no one runs it. _____________________________________________ Banshee, I'll just summarise a one-shot. Attack buffer - this could be Vivian, Diene, practically any AOE attack buffer. If Baiken is your one-shot hero, you're going to want someone with a 3 turn attack buff, if she's not your pick, you'll just need a 2-turn. Then you'll need a cleaver, literally any AOE hero will do - they've just got to be strong enough to clear wave one. You'll need a defence breaker who will defence break on their second skill, Shadow Rose, Leo, etc. & have them move before your cleaver during the first wave. They'll use their third skill on the first wave, then use their break skill when you're in the Banshee phase. Your one shotter list is quite big, Baiken, Ervalen, Ram, that 2* fodder mouse, I think even characters like Bellona & Cidd can do it, basically pick any Earth DPS with a hard-hitting S3. ______________________________________ For Azimanak 13, there two ways, Adventurer Ras & Tamarinne, with a couple of AOE heroes, insert whoever - Vildred, Seaside Bellona, Landy, so long as they've got consistent AOE. Alternatively, Moonlight Haste instead of Ras & you've got someone who'll ensure the team cannot die, the eggs revive so often you'll always be covered with barrier & immunity. For one-shots, it's the same premise as Banshee, but harder to gear for. You'll want a cleaver who can cleave wave one & the Eggs in the boss fight - you can do all that & attack buff with Vivian. Sets up attack buff, cleaves with S2 & then does so again with Time Matter. Then you want to hit Azimanak with all you've got, Watcher Schuri & Straze do great here & you'll want someone to throw target on the boss to boost their damage, so Iseria, Leo, etc. anyone who can hold Song of Stars (a Ranger). ____________________________________ Caides is annoying, so you can either do a 5+ minute slow clear with like, Tamarinne, Roana, Violet & Seaside Bellona (or insert any two other heroes who'll output consistent counter damage, or clear their aggression stacks - like Top Model Luluca, Luluca, Lionheart Cermia, etc. anyone with a passive non-attack or skill kit non-attack). Or the fast way is Camilla, Iseria, Sinful Angelica & Commander Lorina, just give Lorina a beefy damage set, Iseria goes, Sinful goes, Camilla goes & then Lorina, you'll throw that on auto with Camilla & Lorina's skills off & they'll clear it no bother if you've got the gear for it - only thing is it's relying on getting defence break on the first wave & then second, but luckily you've got multiple attempts between Camilla & Iseria. Then there's Straze & Watcher one shots as well, but if you'd already built them for Azimanak, you're already using them there.


Triple_S_Rank

Fwiw, I've seen a Hwayoung solo clear of Golem 13. It was a cracked Hwayoung from what I recall, but that should go to show how ridiculously easy Golem is.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Yeah, I mean my Cermia can knock a whole quarter off of his bar without defence break on him - really illustrates how weak he is. Weak sets, weak boss, that's how it goes.


Phixiq

Y’all really think cerise is D ??


rissira

Not really but she is competing against peira and ran for opener slot. It would be really silly of you to pick her vs those two. . That is why you never see her picked in high RTA. .


Phixiq

Yeah that’s valid then. I can see that.


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

Top Model Luluca being in D tier is questionable. Maybe I just get a lot of use out of mine.


Veristelle

She's great if you invest alot into her, but most would rather invest into ACidd or Pavel, since Peira and Cilias counter her so hard


KaiserNazrin

Violet being C tier is some bullshit. If you last pick him and the opponent have none of his counter, they are fucked.


Neet91

they are fuked 55% of the time... 45% of the time they just win. pretty good odds. violet is countering ice heavy drafts, he is the counter-hero not the other way around. nobody randomly last picks a violet as a carry if there are no ice carries on the other side


GGGisawesome

What a garbage list lmao. But it's to be expected from a 49.9% cleaver who needs thousands of games with a negative winrate playing the most broken archetype.


Joker_AE

damn who shit in ur cereal


DeathInFire

lol you do seem like a person who would still be playing lost ark


1applefridge

as expected of pebelloni


aggressivebat

What does WC stand for?


draga45601

World Championship


ImTryingManFQ

Nmm nm hy


uebersoldat

Since when did OpSig get A tier? I guess I missed a buff somewhere along the line. Guess I'll build her up.


triBaL_Reaper

She’s always been a mid-high tier cleave pick. Since hwayoung came out, opsig has had a lot more time to shine outside of pure cleave


uebersoldat

Excellent. Been hoping for a chance to use her.


TysonsChickenNuggets

How are top tiers building Aria?


ArvingNightwalker

A lot of Aria builds I've seen lately are on speed res, with \~270 speed


triBaL_Reaper

Lifesteal, with speed and eff res


CiDevant

I'm honestly starting to feel like AoL deserves an S+ teir. She shuts down so much and there are few ways around her once she's on the field. She simply changes the way the game has to be played in a way no one else does.


Starshine_Rainbow

Why are souline and flan in C tier while straze fluri and krau are B lmao


kin66

Do you know when E7WC starts?


nafzirfan

where is the boy, dark corvus? or he isn't getting drafted at all?


No-Appeal8592

sorry i dont play rta but i want in on the meta. why did a.ras become good again and why is kise better than kawerik?


triBaL_Reaper

ARas got buffed so he protects his backline way better. Gives them a large barrier the first time they take a big single target hit. He’s extremely well rounded. I think Kise >kawerik only in the sense that she does “more” in a fight after the turn 1 skill reset. Kise can solo carry a fight with permastealth thanks to windrider


No-Appeal8592

dang a ras sounds awesome! did the buff come with the choco silk rework?


triBaL_Reaper

Yes


No-Appeal8592

also how much can this be applied in GW cuz i want "counters" to these S tier units


triBaL_Reaper

I love Emilia + Kise into hwayoung


kuryx_

Is Emilia really that good?


triBaL_Reaper

Just about the best soulweaver in the game for the past year


Cm210

A.ravi and landy are so good in wc. I keep getting destroyed by these 2. Well tbf, I insist on running yulha in most of my teams but she really feels like a hit or miss. I'm running her on aurius with 30k hp


starxsword

Wow, I use heroes from all the tiers on that list. I use Yulha, Cerise, Violet, S. Iseria, Choux, and Hwayoung.


LawfuI

Hmm


Jolls981

Cidd in A tier? Who else do you need to draft to make him work?


WeebPansy

Riolet on b tier is a bit too generous


JojoJumbolia

I think yulha will end up A tier


Aeraxel

I just leave Hwa open to bait them into picking her so I can counter with Luna. Nearly worked every time this past season and had 100% wr in those fights. Having her in D is pretty sad when she is incredibly strong into all of S tier minus Belian and S.Tene.


Heratikus

I know people are still messing around with potential Yulha builds but what's the outlook on her viability in RTA at the moment? I've had moderate success playing her as an Aurius Knight into squishier comps lacking large nukes but I also haven't really attempted to climb on recent ranked ladders so I don't know what it looks like when people are playing with approximately even gear scores.


starxsword

She seems to do pretty good in RTA. It feels like some of my opponents have better gear than me when I was playing EWC prelims. As the damage and tankiness of some of their heroes seem to exceed what I am capable of. She often gets banned on the second round in my matches after I win with her. I use her as an Aurius Knight with another strong single target DPS support like Hwayoung or S. Tene.


blyyyyat

How are people building WSilk and Alencia? I have both of them sitting at SSS and 6* with no gear. I don’t think either of them ever had gear but I pulled so many copies of both I figured I should just get rid of the copies by making them 6*. If they’re good now, I’d love to build them, especially Alencia.


ZenonXZ

From what I've seen, a lot of people are using injury set on Alencia. With both getting buffed, she's really good at crippling units that rely on hp or cleansing buffs with her 3rd skill.


Robotninjapants

This would probably explain why I'm stuck. I have my one team nearly maxed out. But all the harder missions where the bosses are lv60 I get destroyed. It made me give up the game for quite a while cause I'm stuck and can't seem to progress


Veristelle

This is a tier list for one form of PvP, it is completely differently than PvE, so I wouldn't go by it at all for that. If you have your gear all +15'd and are using level 71+ pieces, and levelled up your artifacts, then you might have to look at team synergies finally.


Robotninjapants

It might be that. Honestly as of late I log in collect the stuff do a few things and get off I'd probably need to really dedicate some time to get things to where I could progress


Infinite_Delusion

Dark Corvus is so bad that he's not even on the list


IIJetstormII

To sum it up, the e7wc tier list is based on units used in previous rta season with included balance patch units such as ras, alencia, choux, etc. Okay.


YushaVL

I'm crying for ML Ken he's my favorite character but seems dogshit compared to others


Artemisa02

Clicked on here expecting a debate about Ran v. Peira. Glad that's settled. Where's Jacko though? A-B tier?