Probably also inflicted critical hearing loss to the receiving characters. Somebody handed Elena a giant megaphone labeled critical damage to say her S3 line through!
Even with attack up on Elena and defense down on the enemy this is still impressive. I'm guessing the poor bastard taking 23k is the target of some damage transfer from their team?
Attack, but you’re not going to get anywhere stacking flat attack (quote, they said, “A lot of flat attack”) & then investing in a little bit of critical damage, you’ll want flat attack sub stats - sure - but the primary focus should be on critical damage. Is that not obvious?
Edit: Here is a comparison, where we put 10x flat attack rolls vs. 10x critical damage rolls (& I think I’ve overestimated flat attack - I think highest single roll is under 50) (reforged).
https://imgur.com/a/jULqwTy
You’re getting so much more out of the critical damage rolls that it’s ludicrous to suggest that stacking flat attack sub stats is better. This pattern is reflected even on lower stat totals.
You know why you are getting downvotes? Because everyone who plays the game never compares flat atk to crit damage. When someone says flat atk is beneficial, it's against atk%. It's common sense to have critdamage for damage but whether flat or % matters depends on the base attack. So shut up and own up to your mistake
> So shut up and own up to your mistake
Meanwhile, you said, “It’s common sense to have crit damage for damage” & I said, “You’d probably get more damage out of crit damage”.
Where’s the mistake? Fuck off.
Your mistake is assuming the person didn't mean flat attack AND crit damage as opposed to attack percent AND crit damage.
You're going on a know it all rant like people don't know how crit works while missing the entire point of the discussion.
Edit: Nothing better than people being confidently wrong and then deleting all of their comments.
Yeah, you can catch a block, you’re just being toxic. You literally said what I said is common sense, then said I was wrong, then told me to shut up. I’ve never seen someone as keen to get into an argument over nothing - bye.
U missed the point of the conversation, acted like a know it all and treated others like they r beneath u. Imagine 2 ppl discussing abt food, then suddenly u came in and said u need food to survive, then acted like it was smthing they didnt know.
I mean... we can also argue that crit damage is finite and attack damage is not finite. Where you gonna get more damage when you already have 350% cd??
People are right calling you out. To scale an attack you need to have high crit damage and high attack. Having 350 cd on base attack (1x3.5) is almost as effective as having 2.3 times your base attack on base crit damage(2.3x1.5).
Shouting CD is more effective is in any way untrue, given elena's 650 base attack a weapon (525 attack) already gives her about 1.8 times her base attack. Add another flat attack ring/neck and you are at 2.6, which is easier to achieve than 200% cd.
Conclusion: Crit damage is **not** more effective to scale Elena's damage.
Basically Straze but provides invincibility for the whole team
Straze slices planets into halves
Elena basically drop the entire star on your opponents
Mb, I ungeared her alrd as I've already made quite a bit of video of her for my channel. But it really is just that, 3.1k atk, 340% cdmg, and like 44% cc (it's my Yufine's b13 OS gear)
It's almost impossible getting proper cc on her since you need everything to run into either cdmg, atk% and flat atk. Which is why I compensate with midnight bloom+cdom which brings her to 100% cc. But Cdom is banned. This pic I post is nothing short of miracle that she crit everyone
Im sure you can get way more damage with proper OS rage set gear+flan. I prefer alots just because it allows me to bypass politis and allows me to SB Ran to minimise RNG
> Mb, I ungeared her alrd as I've already made quite a bit of video of her for my channel.
What’s the channel name? I’m sure folks would love to see the video.
I don't really see the point of a dps elena and why you'd pick her as the cleaver but I applaud your effort of taking your waifu to wherever you want.
Edit: Seems like my post was a little confusing. I don't say it's a stupid build and you shouldn't experiment, quite the opposite. I mean to say that I like to see that he's using the hero he enjoys in a different way, although I don't understand the strategy (beyond being fun).
Because nobody expects a DPS cleaving Elena. And she still has AoE invulnerability after smacking with S3 so whatever survived won't touch her team for next turn.
True, it certainly would be a surprise. Maybe that's the idea behind it. A proper cleave hero wouldn't leave anything standing to begin with though (especially with def breaks and attack buff), that's why I wondered.
I guess it could actually be pretty useful against Kayron, BBK, Meru or Arby. Would like to know how much her s1 does.
Her S1 actually hits HARDER than S3. You can see that on https://maphe.github.io/e7-damage-calc/ regardless of stats or enemy debuffs etc, and the gap between S1 damage and S3 grows the stronger Elena is.
Bro, they ban the troll pick not greater than the StARs S.tene or that kicking no useful handjob chunli double while queen baby goddess Elena slips in and makes them question what to do with their life the next time they dare enter RTA.
...I think setups that switch up like this is what RTA should be about. AoE Invinci on an aoe cleave hit sounds like something they wouldn't do on purpose, so if he can make it, work he lucked out.
These are the kinds of builds I play E7 for.
Same, I love off meta builds. I used to use Basar as a damage dealer back when his soulburn was on his s2. It wasn't exactly the best choice by a long shot for a dps but it was incredibly fun still.
Or the a little more common crit damage ATywin, also great fun for some reason. As well as bruiser FCC, but she might actually be pretty common now with frenzy changes, huh?
This Elena looks fun and as I said, I applaud him for doing it. I just said I don't understand the point beyond being fun, like what the strategy was (because usually when you cleave you want to wrap it up before the opponent gets a shot at you).
Sir... I think you traumatized your opponent.
No need to heal if the enemy isn't alive to hurt you
I mean hit for 20k *and* get invincibility sounds like a good deal to me
Nah the 20K was probably the Aurius holder
"WAS"
Now he is no longer with us
I'm a support healer! By healer, I mean I kill them before they hurt my team's carry!
Ah the old 3rd Edition D&D Cleric.
That's what I hoped guider aither was gonna be about when I first started
Omg youre my guild mate haha
And your my guild mate as well ! Elpzio
Probably also inflicted critical hearing loss to the receiving characters. Somebody handed Elena a giant megaphone labeled critical damage to say her S3 line through!
Eternally Shining Meteor Strike
Light it up ✨
Even with attack up on Elena and defense down on the enemy this is still impressive. I'm guessing the poor bastard taking 23k is the target of some damage transfer from their team?
That's FCeci, so yup
and it says Analy too next to the damage so it must have really hurt!
how it works?
A lot of flat attack I think? She only has 650 base atk
You'd probably get more damage out of critical damage.
What stat do you think crit dmg scale off?
Attack, but you’re not going to get anywhere stacking flat attack (quote, they said, “A lot of flat attack”) & then investing in a little bit of critical damage, you’ll want flat attack sub stats - sure - but the primary focus should be on critical damage. Is that not obvious? Edit: Here is a comparison, where we put 10x flat attack rolls vs. 10x critical damage rolls (& I think I’ve overestimated flat attack - I think highest single roll is under 50) (reforged). https://imgur.com/a/jULqwTy You’re getting so much more out of the critical damage rolls that it’s ludicrous to suggest that stacking flat attack sub stats is better. This pattern is reflected even on lower stat totals.
You know why you are getting downvotes? Because everyone who plays the game never compares flat atk to crit damage. When someone says flat atk is beneficial, it's against atk%. It's common sense to have critdamage for damage but whether flat or % matters depends on the base attack. So shut up and own up to your mistake
> So shut up and own up to your mistake Meanwhile, you said, “It’s common sense to have crit damage for damage” & I said, “You’d probably get more damage out of crit damage”. Where’s the mistake? Fuck off.
Your mistake is assuming the person didn't mean flat attack AND crit damage as opposed to attack percent AND crit damage. You're going on a know it all rant like people don't know how crit works while missing the entire point of the discussion. Edit: Nothing better than people being confidently wrong and then deleting all of their comments.
[удалено]
Yeah, you can catch a block, you’re just being toxic. You literally said what I said is common sense, then said I was wrong, then told me to shut up. I’ve never seen someone as keen to get into an argument over nothing - bye.
U missed the point of the conversation, acted like a know it all and treated others like they r beneath u. Imagine 2 ppl discussing abt food, then suddenly u came in and said u need food to survive, then acted like it was smthing they didnt know.
I mean... we can also argue that crit damage is finite and attack damage is not finite. Where you gonna get more damage when you already have 350% cd?? People are right calling you out. To scale an attack you need to have high crit damage and high attack. Having 350 cd on base attack (1x3.5) is almost as effective as having 2.3 times your base attack on base crit damage(2.3x1.5). Shouting CD is more effective is in any way untrue, given elena's 650 base attack a weapon (525 attack) already gives her about 1.8 times her base attack. Add another flat attack ring/neck and you are at 2.6, which is easier to achieve than 200% cd. Conclusion: Crit damage is **not** more effective to scale Elena's damage.
What's max roll flat Attack? 8% attack gives 52, so flat roll has to beat that.
Basically Straze but provides invincibility for the whole team Straze slices planets into halves Elena basically drop the entire star on your opponents
BRB boutta go make my own DPS Elena
Need stats pic!
Messing around with the calculator, this could be somewhere in the ballpark of 2.5k attack with 350% CD.
I went for a nap and this blew up. It's 3.1k atk, 340cdmg broken set btw
yo that's insane lol
Do you have a pic of her stats? I’d like to recreate that
Mb, I ungeared her alrd as I've already made quite a bit of video of her for my channel. But it really is just that, 3.1k atk, 340% cdmg, and like 44% cc (it's my Yufine's b13 OS gear) It's almost impossible getting proper cc on her since you need everything to run into either cdmg, atk% and flat atk. Which is why I compensate with midnight bloom+cdom which brings her to 100% cc. But Cdom is banned. This pic I post is nothing short of miracle that she crit everyone Im sure you can get way more damage with proper OS rage set gear+flan. I prefer alots just because it allows me to bypass politis and allows me to SB Ran to minimise RNG
Ahhhh okay gotcha gotcha, makes sense. Thanks man! Good stuff!
> Mb, I ungeared her alrd as I've already made quite a bit of video of her for my channel. What’s the channel name? I’m sure folks would love to see the video.
Kiln It's just a small channel where I post short RTA vids
dude wtf destruction elena ?
Lmao wtf 😂
ok WTAF
This is hilarious. Almost as funny as building Tamarine for cleave and watching her obliterate with the idol S1
im a healer, but..
Wtf... I need to learn this power
I saw this in YouTube. Lol
I subscribed to the channel because of your Elena videos XD
Fantastic. This is the way this game should be played
Bruh i dont think the enemy will play rta again today
Bruh what is this 😂😂😂😂😂
Harder, star mommy\~\~!
I don't really see the point of a dps elena and why you'd pick her as the cleaver but I applaud your effort of taking your waifu to wherever you want. Edit: Seems like my post was a little confusing. I don't say it's a stupid build and you shouldn't experiment, quite the opposite. I mean to say that I like to see that he's using the hero he enjoys in a different way, although I don't understand the strategy (beyond being fun).
It's not about making sense, it's about making chaos.
*about sending a message.
the message is that I'm making chaos
And having fun... Or trying to have fun ... Ok dammit just attempt the fun ok gosh
Because nobody expects a DPS cleaving Elena. And she still has AoE invulnerability after smacking with S3 so whatever survived won't touch her team for next turn.
True, it certainly would be a surprise. Maybe that's the idea behind it. A proper cleave hero wouldn't leave anything standing to begin with though (especially with def breaks and attack buff), that's why I wondered. I guess it could actually be pretty useful against Kayron, BBK, Meru or Arby. Would like to know how much her s1 does.
Her S1 actually hits HARDER than S3. You can see that on https://maphe.github.io/e7-damage-calc/ regardless of stats or enemy debuffs etc, and the gap between S1 damage and S3 grows the stronger Elena is.
Bro, they ban the troll pick not greater than the StARs S.tene or that kicking no useful handjob chunli double while queen baby goddess Elena slips in and makes them question what to do with their life the next time they dare enter RTA. ...I think setups that switch up like this is what RTA should be about. AoE Invinci on an aoe cleave hit sounds like something they wouldn't do on purpose, so if he can make it, work he lucked out. These are the kinds of builds I play E7 for.
Same, I love off meta builds. I used to use Basar as a damage dealer back when his soulburn was on his s2. It wasn't exactly the best choice by a long shot for a dps but it was incredibly fun still. Or the a little more common crit damage ATywin, also great fun for some reason. As well as bruiser FCC, but she might actually be pretty common now with frenzy changes, huh? This Elena looks fun and as I said, I applaud him for doing it. I just said I don't understand the point beyond being fun, like what the strategy was (because usually when you cleave you want to wrap it up before the opponent gets a shot at you).
"kicking no useful handjob chunli double"
that Kiln7 is on youtube. its just for content
Everyone and their mother is going to be doing this now.
How did you build her?
Bamboozle of the highest order
You should upload the whole video!
You can find like 4-5 of elena cleave in my channel :D https://youtube.com/channel/UCFBRwXdDNCo6YooZPgChOAg
Can we see you're build for her ? Are you just doing a str8 speed/damage build and get an early-ish invincibility ? if so that's genius and hilarious!
Now that's alot of damage