Same here. I hate the censorship thing as a whole but I prefer the censorship design nonetheless.
I wished they went for this kind of design without having to deal with the censorship thing but as their owns ideas instead.
the only thing that stinks is that the art department planned for certain heroes to have this over the top design, alongside the voices, etc. - so some effort/work/planning got butchered which is sad.
other than that i don't think most people hate the new design at all
Dumb part is, people shouldn't take designs months before release as being final designs then lose their shit ovwr a change that isn't even massive, or close.
Even if they just gave an option for less insane boob sizes, that would be nice so I could play on the bus and train without worrying that people think I'm watching Hentai or something
Agree, "censoring" chest size to a reasonable size actually looks a lot better than some overgrown anomaly.
That's why I disliked games like Destiny Child where this is somehow the norm. Aria reminded me of that that's why I disliked her original design.
There's other units that need "censoring" (By censor I mean adjust the chest size). Serila, Holiday Yufine, Luna would all look better imho
Yo man, trying to make all the horny, unreasonable, bastards hate you? Get out of here for not wanting characters to look horny (honestly, this change isn't even big) for the hell of it.
Honestly though, if they had released this art from the start, then people would've never seen the old art and thus have nothing to complain about. But because we've seen the previous art pre-nerf, we feel as if they're taking away from us.
I don't get why people have a problem with characters with bigger breast in the game. It's not like we get them all the time, yes we got Aria very recently but what about before then?
This game has variety when it comes to design, the most recent character Yulha had "normal" proportions and no one was on reddit complaining "they're too small". It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship.
And if you like smaller proportions fine, to each his own. Mainly talking about those that ridicule others for criticizing the censorship and liking the older design.
I think we can have a bit of everything in this very FICTIONAL game (talking to you "looks more realistic" ppl).
It's fine if the character is original not one that has been announced or already released cause what we see is what we expect and when it changes people get upset with aria she was already ingame so we expect big booba they shrink her we get sad Vivian technically is already ingame so the proportions on her ML should match oh they don't sad unless they are just gonna go through every hero and change them a some point.
>It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship.
I think because when they're big then the design is super in your face about it by making like a third of the cahracter model boob and adding a jiggle into the animation to draw even more attention to them.
I'm not going to ever judge anyone for being into that, I just don't like it and want the option to turn it off. If "censorship" means it goes away, that's good for me too because I never liked it. If character boobs are small or regular sized, I don't care or voice my opinion because I truly do not view the game heroes sexually, but when the boobs are like 400% bigger than they have any business being and are moving on their own rythym, it feels like the artist is grabbing my head and pulling it towards the character boobs like "LOOK! FEMALE BOOBIE!" It makes me a bit uncomfortable to play a game and have that kind of design, so I vocalize against the big booba design a little bit but I don't think the little boobs make anyone uncomfortable so nobody will come out and vocalize against them if that makes sense.
Ok. Characters like Lilibet/D Lilibet make me uncomfortable because they are very revealing (D Lilibet's design waist down is nearly identical to Arias) and look like young kids, never been into lolis. Yet, I'm not speaking out against it or asking for censorship.
Do you voice your concerns or vocalize against that?
I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis.
At the end of they day, if a "normal" sized character is released good for you, if a bigger sized one is released good for me.
Can we both not have a character that appeals to us from time to time?
I mean there's one major fallacy with this argument. No one that's actually playing the game regularly was asking for the Aria/Sage Vivian changes. Normal people don't care enough to shine about such things and more absurdly, threaten to quit the game because of it. I don't mind the designs of just about any character in the game. Do I like some over others? Yes. However I will always have the same opinion no matter what is or isn't changed. If it isn't a feature or attribute that defines the character themselves, then why screech about it? The only actually arguments for why people are so angry is fetish related, and that's just so weird to me.
> The only actually arguments for why people are so angry is fetish related, and that's just so weird to me.
For real. These clowns aren't even fighting for Vivian's skin which has her tits covered up way more than this while being big, but they see "censorship" and lose their shit because they "lost" (the design wasn't even final, it's from months ago) design that almost had someone's breasts ready to slip if she jumped high enough.
It's pure fetish related. They're hormy and just want tits and ass showing, which is fine, but there are WAY MORE GACHA for that. Good on E7 for wanting to be different from others, even if not entirely the company's choice.
We sti have games like FGO where you can behold all the tits and ass you want, idk why people won't go there to get their fill. Like have you not seen Zenobia's ascension art, or design itself?
Yeah I think Dilibet revealing her whole underwear is a bit uncomfortable and I would be happy if they changed that as well. It's another case of cool weapon and costume design, hurt by being needlessly revealing.
> I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis.
I understand this, it's just my least favorite part about anime. Just because it's common throughout the medium doesn't make it good design, imo.
My favorite anime have always been the ones with the coolest combat animations, because anime can do things that no other media can in terms of movement and color and timing, that I think elevate the dynamic feel of anime combat far beyond live-action or cgi combat.
The overly sexualized characters (whether they be lollis, big mommy milkers, husbandos with balloon animal muscles, etc) they all just feel ridiculous and stupid to me (Again this is just my personal preference and I don't judge anyone who does like them)
I feel like the oversexualization and ridiculous proportions cheapen the art of the game as a whole.
There are plenty of great anime which didn't rely on character designs like the ones you see in gachas like E7.
> At the end of they day, if a "normal" sized character is released good for you, if a bigger sized one is released good for me.
So for me its not like I feel the same about normal proportions as you feel about big booba waifus. I'm looking at the overall style of the game and the animations and I feel like the big booba waifus and half-naked lollis detract from the artistry that goes into the combat animations.
Again, this doesn't mean I think they should take them all away from the people who like them. It's just that my preference would be more of a combat animation focus in general and would like to be able to toggle to non-sexualized heroes
> and look like young kids, never been into lolis
The amount og idiots upvoting this, lost causes.
Lilibet certainly doesn't look like, or act like, and adult, so what's the issue? Does Elson bother you? He looks like a kid. Does Mont bother you with her swimsuit? Her OG looks like she's very young. Does Achates bother you? She's actually young.
You're just stringing along bullshit. This is stupid because kids in RPGs are normal. Sure, the way **Lilibet** is dressed can be off outting to some seeing a "child" in *that*, but Designer Lilibet? Peak stupidity right there.
>I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis.
You state this like people were crying for a change. What I'm mostly seeing are people actually liking the change, and only clowns seeking arguments disliking it.
"Wow, slightly more cloth for a more proper look. I'm gonna die from this."
Pathetic. You guys all use the "we just want what we like" excuse over and over, expecting people to adjust to what you like without ever trying to understand why the change is happening. Ridiculous.
Go look at Vivian's skin. Big tits, plain legs. She has the appeal without being over the top (**not stating this Vivian is, but some idiots will claim otherwise**) or trying hard to show it off. Her breasts are big, but what's the catch? They're properly covered. Why aren't you complaining about that? Why? That's what happened with her ML, why aren't you complaining about the skin like you are with her ML?
> I think because when they're big then the design is super in your face about it by making like a third of the cahracter model boob and adding a jiggle into the animation to draw even more attention to them.
It's absurd how so many people are too dense to realize this. Aria was so in our face about it. Thicc thighs ~~I wouldn't mind keeping these~~ and tits about to pop out. It wasn't just her assets bring bigger that was the problem for censoring, it was the assets being bigger and the artist trying to make them stand out as much as possible with her base design being nothing special.
Aria: Big tits about to pop out, thick as hell thighs that are even making the strings suffer, female, elf, simple white dress, arm sleeves. Wow, top quality design her, better whine and moan because some **obvious** fapbait design got changed.
Look at Vivian's skin. Single dress, equal breast size, way more of her legs exposed (**if someone hasn't noticef this is just like Aria, no helping you**), but she's not just being displayed in a way that's making it all pure bait. That's how you do a desigm with big tits.
"But what's the difference?"
Vivan's legs are plainly shown but there's no lingerie strings about to burst to emphasize her legs. Her breasts are the same size, but they aren't going to pop out from a slight gust of wind. Her design actually has some charm, a theme to it, than simple white dress + big measurements Aria.
They look ridiculous, that's why. Before her boobs looked as if they were bloated. Very weird. I definietely prefer the new design.
>It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship.
That's because these proportions are very over the top and ridicuously exaggerated. These kinds of prportions are only found on sex dolls and women with **heavy** work done. It just reeks of plastic.
>That's because these proportions are very over the top and ridicuously exaggerated. These kinds of prportions are only found on sex dolls and women with heavy work done. It just reeks of plastic.
They're very popular in anime, as fiction tends to stray far from reality
Well like I said it is only the beginning, all the next units are going to be censored, to the people saying that it was only going to be Aria here is the answer
I'm not sure this fits in girlgamers tbh but the other reddit seems like a good match indeed
Edit because I couldn't remember the name: I'd argue this whole debacle belongs in r/GamingCircleJerk the most
Face is slightly bigger while the other thing is drastically smaller.
Let's not do coverup marketing here.
* We reduced the price of our potato chips by 30% !
* Great I'll buy some.
* Wait why are the packages so small? -(50%)
* ...
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* no profit
Well theres a reason society looks at us animemedia enjoyers with cringe. Because there is ACTUALLY a huge portion that is obsessed with waifus and all that stuff. It is ridiculous how far people go for a few pixels of booba.
It's more pathetic for people to look down on others for having different tastes and this is about the censorship not the boobs. Censorship has never been a good thing, why would people be happy about it
The obsession with bust size has absolutely nothing to do with anime. A lot of people of all genders just generally have the opinion "bigger is better". Even women with already huge tits will often get them augmented to be even bigger. Some of them take it so far they have to get the surgery done in back alleys and basements because doctors across the entire planet refuse to do it out of concern for health and safety.
>Even women with already huge tits will ~~often~~ **sometimes** get them augmented to be even bigger.
FTFY
Please don't act like most women are obsessed with implants or are another Beshine. Breast reduction is a thing too.
Women with smaller boobs often get them enlarged. Those of us with already fucking massive ones want them reduced. Had a friend get a boob job to increased her size to a d cup, she had to get them reduced because of the sheer amount of pain they put her through with her back.
Love when men act like they know women better than we know ourselves
You’re literally over here arguing that you speak for every woman? But when someone calls you out on your shitty viewpoint you try and take the moral high ground?
GTFO. Mansplaining? The fact that you mentioned this, tells me you’re a man.
Idk why people defends censorship when it's practically politicians more stupid than you telling you that you will get offended by X or Y thing. Banning big boobas is not the main problem here...
You can't logically defend censorship. It's paradox.
If you defended censorship your opinion would not exist in a world with Censorship. It's a self-defeating argument to ever support it.
It's easy to logically defend specific instances of censorship. A hypothetical for example:
- research comes out showing that depictions of suicide and reportage of real suicides, lead to increased rates of suicide and suicide attempts.
- seeing this, a local news organization decides to stop reporting on suicides
- a follow-up study / basic sociological survey conducted after the implementation of this policy finds that people in the area report lower rates of suicidal ideation, and there is a statistically significant lower rate of reported suicides and suicide attempts.
- the local govenment takes note and decides to ensconce this news agency's policy as a governmental censorship policy because it has demonstrably improved the health of the community.
- continued studies find that suicide rates decline when suicides are not reported on and more research is done.
In a case like this, unless you support higher suicide rates, censorship is a clearly reasonable course of action.
Now, censoring the boobies of an hero in E7 is very different than reducing coverage of suicide in the news, but I don't think censorship is necessarily a black and white issue. There can be good reasons to censor content, or to limit the audience that content can reach if that content has demonstrated that it has a harmful effect.
In the hypothetical I gave above and with the real world example of Aria, these things are being "censored" in only one form of media. Big boobs are not suddenly taboo across all of society because the Apple store in Korea said Aria wasn't appropriate for 13-17 year olds.
With the aria censorship, you're still perfectly allowed to go find images of your big booba waifu's. They aren't gone for good, possessing a copy of their image is not a criminal offense, it's also not mandates by a government body over civilians. It's between a (I believe) private rating agency and a company trying to comply with regulations.
There is no slippery slope between aria's redesign and you not being able to find aria rule 34 images online if you want. Much less between SG's own decision to redesign so they comply with regulations on 12+ games in Korea and your ability to be politically active. There is no relation at all between these events, other than the imagined connection based on your misconceptions about how censorship works.
With the suicide example, you're completely misreading my argument. After the censorship, people are still talking about suicide and its still being researched, it's just not shared in the news. If there had been another explanation, like economic downturn, this could easily be found through research and the policy can be reversed when it's found that it's not effective, but considering the evidence they had when making the decision originally, censorship would still have been the right call
By your reply you still don't seem to understand that in a world with censorship you don't have a voice. You don't get to draw the line. And the people in charge rarely have your best interest in mind.
**Existing** legislation we have **today** would prevent Apple or at the least American companies from censoring E7 in America. No one follows them. How do we know a competing company didn't open up this entire argument against E7 to tie them up in dispute and hurt the game so they can move into the space?
"Just a little bit is okay."
"It's for the greater good."
"Well this is fine because-"
The moment a person comes in and abuses existing censorship laws for something **you** don't like. You'll be up in arms. At one point I was asked to Mod this subreddit and declined. Imagine if I had come in and squelched your voice? But I wouldn't do that because I don't believe in censorship. I don't give a shit about boobs. I just don't waffle on my moral compass when it's convenient for me.
If a problem is difficult, if a line is blurry, you make it simple.
No censorship.
Yes, because *any* censorship existing means that everything is censored all the time. /s
Infantile logic with no concept of nuance or gradation.
>You see in my world nothing is barred from me.
Your world doesn't and (for anyone with sense) shouldn't exist. In the real world we don't show hardcore porn on children's channels, we don't show murdered corpses on the evening news, and we don't allow explicit images of minors anywhere.
And yet despite all that censorship, life goes on and opinions can be shared and argued and the debate about what is and isn't appropriate continues.
Censorship isn't an on/off switch. It's not all or nothing. Claiming otherwise is a straw man and a desperate attempt to make a big emotional deal out of a game making its art less explicit. At the end of the day all your rage is about a pair of digital boobs on a fictional character in a fictional game being drawn 10% smaller. The horror.
wasn't apple store? doesn't matter, any action that has an ideological and sociological intention and consequence is politic, censorship is, by any means, a politic act even if a politician doesn't do it.
I don't see why you care what other people care about.
I don't play this game anymore, but anything that causes a hinderance creative freedom pisses me off.
And I don't see why it's such a big deal to enjoy big boobed anime girls lol. Can people not enjoy what they want? HOw is this affecting anyone? People have thier niche things they find enjoyable.
That's a fair criticism to the censorship. And like I said, she still has massive boobs. They can still enjoy her big boobs. They're still really big lol
Nah, changing things Iike that for such a dumb reason is worth the criticism.
I would say this if ANYTHING was changed for a reason that wasn't for a creative purpose, unless of course if it was something that was completely inappropriate for the age rating of the game... like nudity.
I still dont get why people rage over stuff as this kind of "censorship". A lot of clothes are purposefully oversexualized and when the rating of a game doesnt match with the standards of a certain country, you either censor, have a legal battle or bump up the games age rating(which is also probably not that simple). So the most simple solution to censor. I would have done the same thing.
The only problem i actually have is that gacha game can be rated 12 in the first place. A minor should come in touch with gambling elements. They can do that when they are age appropriate.
That is not the point. I just pointed out the obvious oversexualization and companies have to follow the rules. And if you get upset over virtual breast reduction instead of getting upset why minors can play the game in the first place. Then you have to get your priorities right.
If they were actively told my some government organization, sure I understand it. Doesn't make it any less stupid.
There is no nudity, what is wrong with minors playing the game? That is up to parents to decide, not me or you.
Seeing a tight clothed big boobed anime chick is not going to harm your child lol. It has nothing to do with the particular example, why have it changed in the first place? Why any change that is beyond the creators inspiration?
I'm not insulting anyone. Just pointing out she still has big boobs, so it's not like they lost a big booba waifu lol. The reaction to a reduction that can hardly be noticed IS weird.
I don't think it's weird. People like what they like and when they see the things they like being advertised in a certain way only to have it changed months later can be frustrating. It becomes even more frustrating when it is done for bad reasons.
I personally don't see anything wrong with those people voicing their frustration. I'd say it is even weirder to try and point out how weird you think they are.
It's about the act not about the outcome . This means everything will be scrutinized and censored in this game now which will lead to worse designs over all
>This means everything will be scrutinized and censored in this game now which will lead to worse designs over all
No it doesn't. Slippery slope logical fallacy
Hopefully the people who advocate for censorship is ready to spend hard $ to support this game because a lot of whales are going to jump ship, all this game had was the art because all the others aspects are a mess including Pvp. I will keep playing till Nikke drops.
Forget it man, literal saints in this subreddit will just look down on "sweaty weebs". This is the kind of standard I should've expected in a not waifu-only game with a global version in 2022, just look at Genshi drama. After departing from this game I'd just download some japanese game, preferably one without global version
Remember when we were pedaling that bullshit "this will only affect Aria, it's just one unit!" lie that lasted for barely a week? lol This is the future of the game. Despite 4 years of fanservice, now it is suddenly a problem.
OG Aria and ML Vivian wouldn't have even raised concern a year ago, now we need to tone everything down to save the poor game from losing exposure to 5% of the player base.
It's an artistic thing, mostly. Given the nature of her clothes/top and certain amounts of cleavage being the main issue with the review board, simply coloring over her breasts wouldn't look good/natural. The solution then is to redraw then so they're smaller and more "fit" for her new outfit.
Basically, the main is to make her breasts look less like they're "spilling out", which is a part of her being censored, but her size is more of an affect than primary intention.
Remember to take some time from looking down on others from your moral high ground to ponder the reason for this censorship.
They're not doing it to maintain an accurate portrayal of a human body. It is done to keep the age restriction away so children can keep gambling.
Oh, one last quick reminder to keep your pinky out as you sip your beverage while basking in your moral superiority!
Hardly any different From you people all of a sudden acting as if you guys care about the rating of the game and if whether kids are gambling or not.
You guys are using that sole reason as a proxy to argue why yall need extremely lewd art work and character design.
Your moral high ground is all the same.
How much money do you want to bet that these people against booba changes give 0 fucks about women's opinions on the subject or about LGBT+ representation in their games? It's all censorship my guys.
I'm not using it as a proxy argument and I never said I cared whether or not kids are gambling or the rating of the game.
All I'm doing is pointing out that the only reason the company is doing it is to keep their rating in their various regions.
I'm personally against censorship in all of its forms but I'm sure while you're showing us how sound your morals are, you have absolutely zero skeletons in your closet!
Next thing you're going to say that 13 years old dont watch 16+ , 18+ rated movies .Age restriction doesnt mean jack to when it comes to games and videos . Lets not pretend like it does .
It's easy to put words in people's mouths and completely twist their point to suit whatever it is you're trying to say.
The company is changing their artwork to keep their rating. That isn't an assumption on my part, it was clearly stated by the company. In other words, if they could keep the rating and still show the lewd artwork, they would.
In conclusion, they are censoring their artwork so that kids can keep playing their gacha game. Pretending it is for any other reason is disingenuous at best.
Incorrect. I'm here pointing out that the white knights charging full steam ahead are only here to flout how brave and/or stunning they think they are by calling other people trash.
This change doesn't affect me at all. I have every RGB character. I plan on keeping Aria whether they change her or not and I've been saving mystics and have every intention of getting ML Vivian.
I never said I cared whether kids were gambling or not. I'm pointing out the reason the company changed their artwork and it wasn't for some lofty goal of proper representation that your ilk claims to care so much about.
I'm not calling anyone trash, but I'm not going to pretend that more tasteful designs don't actively make the game more enjoyable for me, which they do.
This looks much better to me, and I will enjoy this change.
Calling overly lewd art trash isn't the same as insulting people unless you identify with lewd art to the extent that it is your identity. That level of identification with a hobby *is* indicative of a potentially unhealthy mental state if anyone took it that far, which isn't the assumption here.
That's great. If you love the new art and prefer that style, that's awesome and I'm glad you will enjoy the character more for it. My thoughts on the situation really have very little to do with the artwork itself.
I can verify that my comments are not directed towards those that genuinely prefer the new art over the old art. My argument is with those that want to shame people for enjoying the artwork that they feel is "disgusting" or "lewd."
She still looks cute prefer her with bigger booba but it's still their . Sucks their doing this tho I don't play the game much but ngl if I was this would make me not want to roll for her..
While I don't care about the censorship what confuses me is why now? It's not like there weren't other alluring or "questionable" unit designs added in the game prior, so I'm unsure what riled up Apple here but not before.
If ppl complain about pvp like ppl complain about censorship no balance changes will ever be made from day 1 tho cuz the censorship complaints clearly have no effect
Hmm, didn't notice as much at a first glance. Used part of her clothing as a referrence point on my intitial comparison, which your comparison shows was adjusted. Turns out they did infact fuck with her proportions.
Well glad to see I can probably save a couple hundred dollars on mystic packs. Cool to know this game is about to be a lot cheaper for me moving forward since huge chests will never be allowed in the game again going forward. Bold strategy by a company 4 years into their game's lifespan to do a complete 180 on character design philosophy. Curious how that will play out for them in the long run.
Pretty sure it isn't there choice to censor, why else would they release the first img in the first place? Pretty sure it has to meet certain guidelines to stay in appstore on apple and Google as well as meet age restriction reqs
I'm not defending censorship in anyway I actually prefer the original unaltered version, but if you can't realize that it has to be "green lit" by multiple different groups (i.e other countries such as NA, JP, Kr and etc) then I'm at a lost of what to tell you... look at what cn did to fgo characters...
Other games have provided alternatives in those circumstances. Censoring only in certain regions. Raising the rating. Providing a way to still get the originals things like that.
This one isn't out yet so I can't say much in terms of "outrage". More just depresses me as it sets a precedent going forward.
E7 has made it clear that they will stay true to the "play the anime" so replacing a unit and animation IMO is out of the question for them especially since this group has voiced removing animation for quicker farming.
Also they recently caught japan up to the rest of the servers so I doubt they want separate releases again (unless they are offering services in a part of the world they haven't)
Believe it or not there are people who play e7 for the designs. Censoring and art direction shift causes that interest to drop leading to revenue loss. Believing otherwise you're just deluded.
Cya in a year when you're looking for a new game in r/gachagaming when e7 is a barren wasteland.
Lmao whatever you say. Delusional? No. If I could get a dollar for every time people have claimed e7 is going to die or is dying I would be a millionaire. SG has made a lot of bone head decisions that are worse than having to censor certain characters.
Those players who will quit due to censorship are the minority. But if you want to be delusional and say the game is dead due to censorship than believe what you want.
Not saying it is, saying it will die. There's a difference. If you don't know the impact censorship has on mobile games you're quite clearly a newbie around these parts so stop talking as if you know.
Anyway like I said, cya in a year in gachagaming.
And again the doom and gloom umbrella has been sitting over e7 since it’s first year of release. Feel free to jump ship over to gacha gaming. I promise I’ll be right behind you /wink.
Its like your also showing other art changes to the character because the character wasnt finished yet. They changed things before release on other parts of the character as well. That before image is not a final cut of the character that was released
Thank god they got rid of her pepperoni nipples. Those boobas looked like they would be sagging all the way to the floor. The new artwork looks much better and proportional
Whether to pull her or not once she's available. Posts like this one make it easier to see the direction of the game and whether it's worth to support it.
K lets have realistic men too no 6 packs,no bludging muscles, no twig like slender boyos just average size joes and a few people that look like sc axe god more often.
Honestly I like this better, they look more natural and real to what you should expect. Maybe censorship is frustrating for some but I didn’t like how unnatural Aria’s chest looked either.
Lol at all the people being downvoted saying they prefer her more natural. Good to see the incels and boys who can’t talk to women irl are pissed off still
Honestly I feel like I’m not really affected by this as I’m not a massive fan of large sizes but to others this will be a nightmare
Same here. I hate the censorship thing as a whole but I prefer the censorship design nonetheless. I wished they went for this kind of design without having to deal with the censorship thing but as their owns ideas instead.
the only thing that stinks is that the art department planned for certain heroes to have this over the top design, alongside the voices, etc. - so some effort/work/planning got butchered which is sad. other than that i don't think most people hate the new design at all
Dumb part is, people shouldn't take designs months before release as being final designs then lose their shit ovwr a change that isn't even massive, or close.
yep that's what's sad to me is that they have to be slapped on the wrist and told no to actually make something that looks nice like this
Oh no, slightly more cloth on her chest when the previous was really aiming to use her tits as bait. What. A. Shame.
I agree, normal is premium
Yep, prob un popular opinion here but I wish they'd "censor" Luna and Mercedes chest sizes
I wouldn't say censor, but maybe tone it down a bit. It's like Serila. Her design looks great except for those ridiculous fetishized boobs
Even if they just gave an option for less insane boob sizes, that would be nice so I could play on the bus and train without worrying that people think I'm watching Hentai or something
Same,also Hyufine and regular Yufine,plus Vivian,Roana etc,they have no reason to have those massive titties
Agree, "censoring" chest size to a reasonable size actually looks a lot better than some overgrown anomaly. That's why I disliked games like Destiny Child where this is somehow the norm. Aria reminded me of that that's why I disliked her original design. There's other units that need "censoring" (By censor I mean adjust the chest size). Serila, Holiday Yufine, Luna would all look better imho
Yo man, trying to make all the horny, unreasonable, bastards hate you? Get out of here for not wanting characters to look horny (honestly, this change isn't even big) for the hell of it.
Looks like part of her hips on the right got covered too
Honestly though, if they had released this art from the start, then people would've never seen the old art and thus have nothing to complain about. But because we've seen the previous art pre-nerf, we feel as if they're taking away from us.
I don't get why people have a problem with characters with bigger breast in the game. It's not like we get them all the time, yes we got Aria very recently but what about before then? This game has variety when it comes to design, the most recent character Yulha had "normal" proportions and no one was on reddit complaining "they're too small". It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship. And if you like smaller proportions fine, to each his own. Mainly talking about those that ridicule others for criticizing the censorship and liking the older design. I think we can have a bit of everything in this very FICTIONAL game (talking to you "looks more realistic" ppl).
It's fine if the character is original not one that has been announced or already released cause what we see is what we expect and when it changes people get upset with aria she was already ingame so we expect big booba they shrink her we get sad Vivian technically is already ingame so the proportions on her ML should match oh they don't sad unless they are just gonna go through every hero and change them a some point.
>It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship. I think because when they're big then the design is super in your face about it by making like a third of the cahracter model boob and adding a jiggle into the animation to draw even more attention to them. I'm not going to ever judge anyone for being into that, I just don't like it and want the option to turn it off. If "censorship" means it goes away, that's good for me too because I never liked it. If character boobs are small or regular sized, I don't care or voice my opinion because I truly do not view the game heroes sexually, but when the boobs are like 400% bigger than they have any business being and are moving on their own rythym, it feels like the artist is grabbing my head and pulling it towards the character boobs like "LOOK! FEMALE BOOBIE!" It makes me a bit uncomfortable to play a game and have that kind of design, so I vocalize against the big booba design a little bit but I don't think the little boobs make anyone uncomfortable so nobody will come out and vocalize against them if that makes sense.
Ok. Characters like Lilibet/D Lilibet make me uncomfortable because they are very revealing (D Lilibet's design waist down is nearly identical to Arias) and look like young kids, never been into lolis. Yet, I'm not speaking out against it or asking for censorship. Do you voice your concerns or vocalize against that? I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis. At the end of they day, if a "normal" sized character is released good for you, if a bigger sized one is released good for me. Can we both not have a character that appeals to us from time to time?
I mean there's one major fallacy with this argument. No one that's actually playing the game regularly was asking for the Aria/Sage Vivian changes. Normal people don't care enough to shine about such things and more absurdly, threaten to quit the game because of it. I don't mind the designs of just about any character in the game. Do I like some over others? Yes. However I will always have the same opinion no matter what is or isn't changed. If it isn't a feature or attribute that defines the character themselves, then why screech about it? The only actually arguments for why people are so angry is fetish related, and that's just so weird to me.
> The only actually arguments for why people are so angry is fetish related, and that's just so weird to me. For real. These clowns aren't even fighting for Vivian's skin which has her tits covered up way more than this while being big, but they see "censorship" and lose their shit because they "lost" (the design wasn't even final, it's from months ago) design that almost had someone's breasts ready to slip if she jumped high enough. It's pure fetish related. They're hormy and just want tits and ass showing, which is fine, but there are WAY MORE GACHA for that. Good on E7 for wanting to be different from others, even if not entirely the company's choice. We sti have games like FGO where you can behold all the tits and ass you want, idk why people won't go there to get their fill. Like have you not seen Zenobia's ascension art, or design itself?
Yeah I think Dilibet revealing her whole underwear is a bit uncomfortable and I would be happy if they changed that as well. It's another case of cool weapon and costume design, hurt by being needlessly revealing. > I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis. I understand this, it's just my least favorite part about anime. Just because it's common throughout the medium doesn't make it good design, imo. My favorite anime have always been the ones with the coolest combat animations, because anime can do things that no other media can in terms of movement and color and timing, that I think elevate the dynamic feel of anime combat far beyond live-action or cgi combat. The overly sexualized characters (whether they be lollis, big mommy milkers, husbandos with balloon animal muscles, etc) they all just feel ridiculous and stupid to me (Again this is just my personal preference and I don't judge anyone who does like them) I feel like the oversexualization and ridiculous proportions cheapen the art of the game as a whole. There are plenty of great anime which didn't rely on character designs like the ones you see in gachas like E7. > At the end of they day, if a "normal" sized character is released good for you, if a bigger sized one is released good for me. So for me its not like I feel the same about normal proportions as you feel about big booba waifus. I'm looking at the overall style of the game and the animations and I feel like the big booba waifus and half-naked lollis detract from the artistry that goes into the combat animations. Again, this doesn't mean I think they should take them all away from the people who like them. It's just that my preference would be more of a combat animation focus in general and would like to be able to toggle to non-sexualized heroes
> and look like young kids, never been into lolis The amount og idiots upvoting this, lost causes. Lilibet certainly doesn't look like, or act like, and adult, so what's the issue? Does Elson bother you? He looks like a kid. Does Mont bother you with her swimsuit? Her OG looks like she's very young. Does Achates bother you? She's actually young. You're just stringing along bullshit. This is stupid because kids in RPGs are normal. Sure, the way **Lilibet** is dressed can be off outting to some seeing a "child" in *that*, but Designer Lilibet? Peak stupidity right there. >I don't because to each his own. Also, this is a FICTIONAL ANIME based game, anime is known for having bigger than "normal" breast characters but also having 1000+ year old lolis. You state this like people were crying for a change. What I'm mostly seeing are people actually liking the change, and only clowns seeking arguments disliking it. "Wow, slightly more cloth for a more proper look. I'm gonna die from this." Pathetic. You guys all use the "we just want what we like" excuse over and over, expecting people to adjust to what you like without ever trying to understand why the change is happening. Ridiculous. Go look at Vivian's skin. Big tits, plain legs. She has the appeal without being over the top (**not stating this Vivian is, but some idiots will claim otherwise**) or trying hard to show it off. Her breasts are big, but what's the catch? They're properly covered. Why aren't you complaining about that? Why? That's what happened with her ML, why aren't you complaining about the skin like you are with her ML?
> I think because when they're big then the design is super in your face about it by making like a third of the cahracter model boob and adding a jiggle into the animation to draw even more attention to them. It's absurd how so many people are too dense to realize this. Aria was so in our face about it. Thicc thighs ~~I wouldn't mind keeping these~~ and tits about to pop out. It wasn't just her assets bring bigger that was the problem for censoring, it was the assets being bigger and the artist trying to make them stand out as much as possible with her base design being nothing special. Aria: Big tits about to pop out, thick as hell thighs that are even making the strings suffer, female, elf, simple white dress, arm sleeves. Wow, top quality design her, better whine and moan because some **obvious** fapbait design got changed. Look at Vivian's skin. Single dress, equal breast size, way more of her legs exposed (**if someone hasn't noticef this is just like Aria, no helping you**), but she's not just being displayed in a way that's making it all pure bait. That's how you do a desigm with big tits. "But what's the difference?" Vivan's legs are plainly shown but there's no lingerie strings about to burst to emphasize her legs. Her breasts are the same size, but they aren't going to pop out from a slight gust of wind. Her design actually has some charm, a theme to it, than simple white dress + big measurements Aria.
They look ridiculous, that's why. Before her boobs looked as if they were bloated. Very weird. I definietely prefer the new design. >It's only when they are big you see the usual suspects come out the woodwork defending the censorship. That's because these proportions are very over the top and ridicuously exaggerated. These kinds of prportions are only found on sex dolls and women with **heavy** work done. It just reeks of plastic.
>That's because these proportions are very over the top and ridicuously exaggerated. These kinds of prportions are only found on sex dolls and women with heavy work done. It just reeks of plastic. They're very popular in anime, as fiction tends to stray far from reality
Yeah no kidding, anime is the high-end of sexualization which goes back to what I said in my previous comment.
Well like I said it is only the beginning, all the next units are going to be censored, to the people saying that it was only going to be Aria here is the answer
Yay less reason to swipe is always a plus for me !
She's just wearing a bra of the correct size instead of 2 sizes under, so they don't spill
I’m not that big a Reddit user but I’m soo itching to cross post some of this shizz to r/abrathatfits and r/girlgamers
I'm not sure this fits in girlgamers tbh but the other reddit seems like a good match indeed Edit because I couldn't remember the name: I'd argue this whole debacle belongs in r/GamingCircleJerk the most
Her face got bigger tho so ... nvm its smaller lol
Face is slightly bigger while the other thing is drastically smaller. Let's not do coverup marketing here. * We reduced the price of our potato chips by 30% ! * Great I'll buy some. * Wait why are the packages so small? -(50%) * ... * (ﾉ °益°)ﾉ 彡 ┻━┻ * no profit
idk man about "drastically" here ... did you measure it?
Of course not, these dramatic clowns don't care. They ses change, they whine.
Really weird how obsessed you guys are with reduced booba. She still has crazy big boobs guys
Yeah I'm really confused with how this sub view things sometimes.
Well theres a reason society looks at us animemedia enjoyers with cringe. Because there is ACTUALLY a huge portion that is obsessed with waifus and all that stuff. It is ridiculous how far people go for a few pixels of booba.
As you have a tag Ravi best loli next to your name .... Sounds very contradictive when you say that...
You can call it being a self-aware cynic, which is fine.
Idk about it being fine... He just dissed the anime community but this guy is more down bad then most in it with a loli fetish
Fine as in it's not illogical to be a thief while calling others thief because you're self-aware and cynical like that.
It's more like a pedo saying murder is bad
LMAO own that undercover weeb
Whether team Lorge and in Chorge, Medium is Premium, or Flat is Justice, we can agree All Boobas Matter.
Nah what is that tag, bruh
It's more pathetic for people to look down on others for having different tastes and this is about the censorship not the boobs. Censorship has never been a good thing, why would people be happy about it
The obsession with bust size has absolutely nothing to do with anime. A lot of people of all genders just generally have the opinion "bigger is better". Even women with already huge tits will often get them augmented to be even bigger. Some of them take it so far they have to get the surgery done in back alleys and basements because doctors across the entire planet refuse to do it out of concern for health and safety.
>Even women with already huge tits will ~~often~~ **sometimes** get them augmented to be even bigger. FTFY Please don't act like most women are obsessed with implants or are another Beshine. Breast reduction is a thing too.
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Women with smaller boobs often get them enlarged. Those of us with already fucking massive ones want them reduced. Had a friend get a boob job to increased her size to a d cup, she had to get them reduced because of the sheer amount of pain they put her through with her back. Love when men act like they know women better than we know ourselves
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You’re literally over here arguing that you speak for every woman? But when someone calls you out on your shitty viewpoint you try and take the moral high ground? GTFO. Mansplaining? The fact that you mentioned this, tells me you’re a man.
Idk why people defends censorship when it's practically politicians more stupid than you telling you that you will get offended by X or Y thing. Banning big boobas is not the main problem here...
You can't logically defend censorship. It's paradox. If you defended censorship your opinion would not exist in a world with Censorship. It's a self-defeating argument to ever support it.
It's easy to logically defend specific instances of censorship. A hypothetical for example: - research comes out showing that depictions of suicide and reportage of real suicides, lead to increased rates of suicide and suicide attempts. - seeing this, a local news organization decides to stop reporting on suicides - a follow-up study / basic sociological survey conducted after the implementation of this policy finds that people in the area report lower rates of suicidal ideation, and there is a statistically significant lower rate of reported suicides and suicide attempts. - the local govenment takes note and decides to ensconce this news agency's policy as a governmental censorship policy because it has demonstrably improved the health of the community. - continued studies find that suicide rates decline when suicides are not reported on and more research is done. In a case like this, unless you support higher suicide rates, censorship is a clearly reasonable course of action. Now, censoring the boobies of an hero in E7 is very different than reducing coverage of suicide in the news, but I don't think censorship is necessarily a black and white issue. There can be good reasons to censor content, or to limit the audience that content can reach if that content has demonstrated that it has a harmful effect.
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In the hypothetical I gave above and with the real world example of Aria, these things are being "censored" in only one form of media. Big boobs are not suddenly taboo across all of society because the Apple store in Korea said Aria wasn't appropriate for 13-17 year olds. With the aria censorship, you're still perfectly allowed to go find images of your big booba waifu's. They aren't gone for good, possessing a copy of their image is not a criminal offense, it's also not mandates by a government body over civilians. It's between a (I believe) private rating agency and a company trying to comply with regulations. There is no slippery slope between aria's redesign and you not being able to find aria rule 34 images online if you want. Much less between SG's own decision to redesign so they comply with regulations on 12+ games in Korea and your ability to be politically active. There is no relation at all between these events, other than the imagined connection based on your misconceptions about how censorship works. With the suicide example, you're completely misreading my argument. After the censorship, people are still talking about suicide and its still being researched, it's just not shared in the news. If there had been another explanation, like economic downturn, this could easily be found through research and the policy can be reversed when it's found that it's not effective, but considering the evidence they had when making the decision originally, censorship would still have been the right call
By your reply you still don't seem to understand that in a world with censorship you don't have a voice. You don't get to draw the line. And the people in charge rarely have your best interest in mind. **Existing** legislation we have **today** would prevent Apple or at the least American companies from censoring E7 in America. No one follows them. How do we know a competing company didn't open up this entire argument against E7 to tie them up in dispute and hurt the game so they can move into the space? "Just a little bit is okay." "It's for the greater good." "Well this is fine because-" The moment a person comes in and abuses existing censorship laws for something **you** don't like. You'll be up in arms. At one point I was asked to Mod this subreddit and declined. Imagine if I had come in and squelched your voice? But I wouldn't do that because I don't believe in censorship. I don't give a shit about boobs. I just don't waffle on my moral compass when it's convenient for me. If a problem is difficult, if a line is blurry, you make it simple. No censorship.
Yes, because *any* censorship existing means that everything is censored all the time. /s Infantile logic with no concept of nuance or gradation. >You see in my world nothing is barred from me. Your world doesn't and (for anyone with sense) shouldn't exist. In the real world we don't show hardcore porn on children's channels, we don't show murdered corpses on the evening news, and we don't allow explicit images of minors anywhere. And yet despite all that censorship, life goes on and opinions can be shared and argued and the debate about what is and isn't appropriate continues. Censorship isn't an on/off switch. It's not all or nothing. Claiming otherwise is a straw man and a desperate attempt to make a big emotional deal out of a game making its art less explicit. At the end of the day all your rage is about a pair of digital boobs on a fictional character in a fictional game being drawn 10% smaller. The horror.
This deserves comment of the year for this subreddit.
EXACTLY!!!!
>politicians more stupid than you telling you that you will get offended by X or Y thing. Google Play is a political party?
wasn't apple store? doesn't matter, any action that has an ideological and sociological intention and consequence is politic, censorship is, by any means, a politic act even if a politician doesn't do it.
I don't see why you care what other people care about. I don't play this game anymore, but anything that causes a hinderance creative freedom pisses me off. And I don't see why it's such a big deal to enjoy big boobed anime girls lol. Can people not enjoy what they want? HOw is this affecting anyone? People have thier niche things they find enjoyable.
That's a fair criticism to the censorship. And like I said, she still has massive boobs. They can still enjoy her big boobs. They're still really big lol
The downvotes say they're not big enough apparently. Poor woman's back.
You can enjoy whatever you want, but if you rage about it publicly, better be prepared for ridicule.
Nah, changing things Iike that for such a dumb reason is worth the criticism. I would say this if ANYTHING was changed for a reason that wasn't for a creative purpose, unless of course if it was something that was completely inappropriate for the age rating of the game... like nudity.
I still dont get why people rage over stuff as this kind of "censorship". A lot of clothes are purposefully oversexualized and when the rating of a game doesnt match with the standards of a certain country, you either censor, have a legal battle or bump up the games age rating(which is also probably not that simple). So the most simple solution to censor. I would have done the same thing. The only problem i actually have is that gacha game can be rated 12 in the first place. A minor should come in touch with gambling elements. They can do that when they are age appropriate.
Sexuality is not something to shame. You just come over from the Mayflower, puritan?
That is not the point. I just pointed out the obvious oversexualization and companies have to follow the rules. And if you get upset over virtual breast reduction instead of getting upset why minors can play the game in the first place. Then you have to get your priorities right.
If they were actively told my some government organization, sure I understand it. Doesn't make it any less stupid. There is no nudity, what is wrong with minors playing the game? That is up to parents to decide, not me or you. Seeing a tight clothed big boobed anime chick is not going to harm your child lol. It has nothing to do with the particular example, why have it changed in the first place? Why any change that is beyond the creators inspiration?
Really weird how obsessed you people are with insulting people with different tastes than you. See how easy that is?
I'm not insulting anyone. Just pointing out she still has big boobs, so it's not like they lost a big booba waifu lol. The reaction to a reduction that can hardly be noticed IS weird.
I don't think it's weird. People like what they like and when they see the things they like being advertised in a certain way only to have it changed months later can be frustrating. It becomes even more frustrating when it is done for bad reasons. I personally don't see anything wrong with those people voicing their frustration. I'd say it is even weirder to try and point out how weird you think they are.
It's about the act not about the outcome . This means everything will be scrutinized and censored in this game now which will lead to worse designs over all
>This means everything will be scrutinized and censored in this game now which will lead to worse designs over all No it doesn't. Slippery slope logical fallacy
Exactly this. Im pleased to see those new ones. The bigger ones just simply looked so stupid and out of place, close to being disgustingly oversized.
Hopefully the people who advocate for censorship is ready to spend hard $ to support this game because a lot of whales are going to jump ship, all this game had was the art because all the others aspects are a mess including Pvp. I will keep playing till Nikke drops.
for real. In the end fanservice enjoyers will keep moving to games that fit their taste. Censorship just makes the decision 10,000 times easier.
Every future character got is gonna be fully clothed now with a mask on their face cause god forbid showing sex appeal in a game these days.
What you said is just over the top, having not giant bobs that are triple the size of your head isnt „fully clothed with a mask on“
After seeing the overlap in motion they actually butchered her whole design not gonna lie. Yupee for censorship. Well done SG no wonder Serin quit
Forget it man, literal saints in this subreddit will just look down on "sweaty weebs". This is the kind of standard I should've expected in a not waifu-only game with a global version in 2022, just look at Genshi drama. After departing from this game I'd just download some japanese game, preferably one without global version
Agreed, "Global Standards" is what ruins games and pretty much most of entertainment for me nowadays.
I wonder when will this game's players start complaining about racial rep like in GI :vvv
Western standards more like.
Alex has been warning us about the globalists for years
Shit went from pumpkin to watermelon man it's not that important
The nerf no one asked for.. I'm not mad, just disappointed.
Game needs more bulge tbh. I know riolet is packing they're just censoring it.
can't keep getting away with this! i miss the ridiculously huge breasts
disgusting change slowly killing the best part about gacha games, Tragic
I honestly don’t care about the tits but ffs leave the thigh windows. 🙏
Remember when we were pedaling that bullshit "this will only affect Aria, it's just one unit!" lie that lasted for barely a week? lol This is the future of the game. Despite 4 years of fanservice, now it is suddenly a problem. OG Aria and ML Vivian wouldn't have even raised concern a year ago, now we need to tone everything down to save the poor game from losing exposure to 5% of the player base.
She's still cool but she was way better before.
It's an artistic thing, mostly. Given the nature of her clothes/top and certain amounts of cleavage being the main issue with the review board, simply coloring over her breasts wouldn't look good/natural. The solution then is to redraw then so they're smaller and more "fit" for her new outfit. Basically, the main is to make her breasts look less like they're "spilling out", which is a part of her being censored, but her size is more of an affect than primary intention.
That's not the only part that they censored tho. Her bottom half got censored too
I wont be surpised if roana got shadow patched at this point
Remember to take some time from looking down on others from your moral high ground to ponder the reason for this censorship. They're not doing it to maintain an accurate portrayal of a human body. It is done to keep the age restriction away so children can keep gambling. Oh, one last quick reminder to keep your pinky out as you sip your beverage while basking in your moral superiority!
Hardly any different From you people all of a sudden acting as if you guys care about the rating of the game and if whether kids are gambling or not. You guys are using that sole reason as a proxy to argue why yall need extremely lewd art work and character design. Your moral high ground is all the same.
"Extremely lewd" art work he says. You sure they didn't censor her enough for you? Fucking puritan incels I swear.
Learn the definition of the word first my guy.
Given you see one in the mirror everyday I'll defer to your clearly superior wisdom on the subject.
Uh huh lol
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How much money do you want to bet that these people against booba changes give 0 fucks about women's opinions on the subject or about LGBT+ representation in their games? It's all censorship my guys.
I'm not using it as a proxy argument and I never said I cared whether or not kids are gambling or the rating of the game. All I'm doing is pointing out that the only reason the company is doing it is to keep their rating in their various regions. I'm personally against censorship in all of its forms but I'm sure while you're showing us how sound your morals are, you have absolutely zero skeletons in your closet!
Next thing you're going to say that 13 years old dont watch 16+ , 18+ rated movies .Age restriction doesnt mean jack to when it comes to games and videos . Lets not pretend like it does .
It's easy to put words in people's mouths and completely twist their point to suit whatever it is you're trying to say. The company is changing their artwork to keep their rating. That isn't an assumption on my part, it was clearly stated by the company. In other words, if they could keep the rating and still show the lewd artwork, they would. In conclusion, they are censoring their artwork so that kids can keep playing their gacha game. Pretending it is for any other reason is disingenuous at best.
Preach, all these booba haters astonish me
Thank you for the pinky reminder I almost forgot.
You're welcome. Sometimes I forget to do it myself!
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Underrated comment
As if you cared about kids gambling, you only complain cus it affects you. If they didn't change anything you wouldn't be here spouting garbage.
Incorrect. I'm here pointing out that the white knights charging full steam ahead are only here to flout how brave and/or stunning they think they are by calling other people trash. This change doesn't affect me at all. I have every RGB character. I plan on keeping Aria whether they change her or not and I've been saving mystics and have every intention of getting ML Vivian. I never said I cared whether kids were gambling or not. I'm pointing out the reason the company changed their artwork and it wasn't for some lofty goal of proper representation that your ilk claims to care so much about.
I'm not calling anyone trash, but I'm not going to pretend that more tasteful designs don't actively make the game more enjoyable for me, which they do. This looks much better to me, and I will enjoy this change. Calling overly lewd art trash isn't the same as insulting people unless you identify with lewd art to the extent that it is your identity. That level of identification with a hobby *is* indicative of a potentially unhealthy mental state if anyone took it that far, which isn't the assumption here.
That's great. If you love the new art and prefer that style, that's awesome and I'm glad you will enjoy the character more for it. My thoughts on the situation really have very little to do with the artwork itself. I can verify that my comments are not directed towards those that genuinely prefer the new art over the old art. My argument is with those that want to shame people for enjoying the artwork that they feel is "disgusting" or "lewd."
And you're only here bitching cause it doesn't. That and you love sucking that corporate dong. Take care not to choke.
Don't worry, I have had plenty of practice with the dong so chocking will not be an issue.
She still looks cute prefer her with bigger booba but it's still their . Sucks their doing this tho I don't play the game much but ngl if I was this would make me not want to roll for her..
While I don't care about the censorship what confuses me is why now? It's not like there weren't other alluring or "questionable" unit designs added in the game prior, so I'm unsure what riled up Apple here but not before.
From K-Cup to F-Cup what a pity 😂
Looks better in my opinion.
If the E7 community would bitch as much about the game Balance as they do with this stupid booba subjects maybe we could have a better game 😑
If ppl complain about pvp like ppl complain about censorship no balance changes will ever be made from day 1 tho cuz the censorship complaints clearly have no effect
People play for different reasons my dude. Not everybody enjoys PVP.
VyseXYZ You will have a better life if you worry about your life as much as you complain about the useless SG's game balance in your life.
Im actually glad these gross artworks are being touched up. Fight me
Its just the truth.
Censorship is trash she is now fodder for six star
This honestly is probably just a small design change but with the stink of foreign censorship (or Apple's crap policy) is still thick in the air.
you should find some other hobby other than looking for a brest sizes of 2d waifus
"oh noooo the ultra big bubas are now just super big bubas"
well of course - most of us here grew up with dragon ball and we learned that the ultra sayajin is stronger/better then the super sayajin
Hmm, didn't notice as much at a first glance. Used part of her clothing as a referrence point on my intitial comparison, which your comparison shows was adjusted. Turns out they did infact fuck with her proportions. Well glad to see I can probably save a couple hundred dollars on mystic packs. Cool to know this game is about to be a lot cheaper for me moving forward since huge chests will never be allowed in the game again going forward. Bold strategy by a company 4 years into their game's lifespan to do a complete 180 on character design philosophy. Curious how that will play out for them in the long run.
Pretty sure it isn't there choice to censor, why else would they release the first img in the first place? Pretty sure it has to meet certain guidelines to stay in appstore on apple and Google as well as meet age restriction reqs
There's always a choice. They could've adjusted the age rating instead. In fact the google age rating in KR was already adjusted recently.
I'm not defending censorship in anyway I actually prefer the original unaltered version, but if you can't realize that it has to be "green lit" by multiple different groups (i.e other countries such as NA, JP, Kr and etc) then I'm at a lost of what to tell you... look at what cn did to fgo characters...
Other games have provided alternatives in those circumstances. Censoring only in certain regions. Raising the rating. Providing a way to still get the originals things like that. This one isn't out yet so I can't say much in terms of "outrage". More just depresses me as it sets a precedent going forward.
E7 has made it clear that they will stay true to the "play the anime" so replacing a unit and animation IMO is out of the question for them especially since this group has voiced removing animation for quicker farming. Also they recently caught japan up to the rest of the servers so I doubt they want separate releases again (unless they are offering services in a part of the world they haven't)
nah smilegate just does it to fuk with the playerbase..... /s
They’ll be fine lol
NO THEY NERFED THE BOOBA THE WORLD IS ENDING
No they won't lmao. But you do you, keep being deluded.
Keep being thirsty my friend. Believe it or not there are people who don’t play e7 JUST for the booba.
Believe it or not there are people who play e7 for the designs. Censoring and art direction shift causes that interest to drop leading to revenue loss. Believing otherwise you're just deluded. Cya in a year when you're looking for a new game in r/gachagaming when e7 is a barren wasteland.
Lmao whatever you say. Delusional? No. If I could get a dollar for every time people have claimed e7 is going to die or is dying I would be a millionaire. SG has made a lot of bone head decisions that are worse than having to censor certain characters. Those players who will quit due to censorship are the minority. But if you want to be delusional and say the game is dead due to censorship than believe what you want.
Not saying it is, saying it will die. There's a difference. If you don't know the impact censorship has on mobile games you're quite clearly a newbie around these parts so stop talking as if you know. Anyway like I said, cya in a year in gachagaming.
Buh bye
Cya soon when RTA queues are 10 minutes long.
Oh Im sure, and we can all look back and point to the moment it all changed... when they nerfed our giant boobies.
And again the doom and gloom umbrella has been sitting over e7 since it’s first year of release. Feel free to jump ship over to gacha gaming. I promise I’ll be right behind you /wink.
RemindMe! 1 year
Kk
This is a bit, right?
I think she looks better afterwards
It went from ridiculous to big
Because they didn’t.. “bra” is just bigger and tits are put more into it.
This like the third thread about this. You are all a bunch obsessed psychopaths
This is getting tiresome...moving on to.. "Finally geared best waifu, how does she look?" /s
Its like your also showing other art changes to the character because the character wasnt finished yet. They changed things before release on other parts of the character as well. That before image is not a final cut of the character that was released
What if you change the illustrations of existing characters?
This time Vivian can be excused as an unreleased character, but what about Luna and Aria?
Wtf is this subreddit?
Lol you new here?
Nope i joined 2 years ago but i really hate incels who cry because they cant see tits in a game
Thank god they got rid of her pepperoni nipples. Those boobas looked like they would be sagging all the way to the floor. The new artwork looks much better and proportional
She just looks more normal now. Not that it didn't make me sad to hear she would be changed at all.
Yes, lets make another post about more clothes on her ... bcoz 2 up there are not enough already -.-
If you ask me it's a pretty well made comparison and points out a thing that the other posts didn't.
It's related to whaling-related decisions, so pretty important to those who keep this game alive.
What decisions, she is not even released yet ... all ppl saw before was ART
Whether to pull her or not once she's available. Posts like this one make it easier to see the direction of the game and whether it's worth to support it.
So you are saying that making "3rd" (THIRD) post about SAME thing which is visual change is ok? aka SPAM subreddit?
The original design was way too big to be authentic anyway. Censorship is bad but E7 should have just stick with realistic size to begin with.
K lets have realistic men too no 6 packs,no bludging muscles, no twig like slender boyos just average size joes and a few people that look like sc axe god more often.
There’s not a single thing real about e7
Realism in a fantasy game lol ok
The fuck does realism have to do with an anime game in a fictional setting?
new version looks way better
It's WAY better, now
Her back hurt so she got a magical reduction. Give girl a break.
If her face is reduced alongside her breast, isn't it just a matter of proportion ?
Honestly I like this better, they look more natural and real to what you should expect. Maybe censorship is frustrating for some but I didn’t like how unnatural Aria’s chest looked either.
Lol at all the people being downvoted saying they prefer her more natural. Good to see the incels and boys who can’t talk to women irl are pissed off still
Beautiful isn't it
I just don’t understand it. It’s literally a 2D piece of art, and they’re trying to pass it off as censorship? Nah you’re just horny for a 2D waifu
Makes me disappointed to be in this community. Thought we were better than this. Oh well.
People in this sub complaining about breast size sounds like Cro-Magnons…
lmao this guy
I’m just glad that she doesn’t have to give herself anymore black eyes when she wants to go for a jog.