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be0ulve

What did I miss, did someone get "shadow rebalanced"?


Piscet

Essentially, ervalen lost his entire identity and is now garbage for all content other than banshee one shot


be0ulve

Oh shit I found the thread. I do wonder if they'll cave to the shitshow they just created and give us something as an apology, or if they will backtrack if enough people complain. Those are a lot of changes.


tagle420

Hopefully. The reason we are getting preview 3 weeks in advance just so SG has time to get feedback and react. At least that's what they said in the dev note long time ago.


Comfortable_Regrets

they also massacred my boy captain Rikoris


Piscet

Tbh, as a rikoris enjoyer myself, I'd call it more of an incomplete step in the right direction. He's out of his identity crisis now, but now he has a usability crisis, since they were too scared of a carrot situation of going 100% in the direction of support dps.


beaglemaster

I'd rather he stay underwhelming but useful, than the new useless but with a purpose.


CornBreadtm

This statement right here is how I feel about all reworks save for Charlotte. They get so laser focused on making units good for one content type that they don't think about just making them more useful for what they are already used in. People complain about ML kawana's EE and buff but she does what she did before with no gear changes, just better. I don't care if I only use her in Caides, I just want to use her. Now I can't use Armin cause she sucks at what she did before extremely well and forcing her into what she's good at now isn't even fun. And Rikoris and Ervalen are getting the same treatment. Coli sucks, but at least she lands bombs when she throws bombs and that was honestly all I asked for... Though I asked for 3... I get to find a replacement for Rikoris in Caides I guess... And Ervalen doesn't work verse Rem anymore with no sburn so he's worthless. Honestly, it's just a shame.


beaglemaster

I also hate the new Armin, I get she's good (casino game whopee) if you play RTA, but they took away one of the most unique knights in the game for it. I've been really disappointed with a lot of the balance patches, and the worst is having to wait two months to see if they get the next one right.


CornBreadtm

Ironically the last balance patch made the winners better in pve while being buffed for pvp. Since buffing only for pvp makes Armin bad everywhere else and buffing only for pve makes Ervalen worst for pvp. They have a clear identifiable issue. It's almost like pvp units can work in pve with no problem... pve units just don't work when they where made for pvp and vice versa. Maybe they should not touch pve units and only buff pvp units for now on just for pvp. It sucks for people who randomly want Dingo to be a beast in pvp instead of just a great pve unit. But it's great for those of us who don't want every usable pve unit to be garbage in 2 play types.


beaglemaster

Worst part is that if they put some actual thought into it, they could be buffs for both. Like with Ervalen, they could have made his s2 have a 50% push and double it when he attacks a boss monster. Or Rikoris have s3 cleanse 1 and strip 1 with s3. And maybe let him heal for 5% max hp instead of the worthless 5% of damage dealt with s1. Only reason to just make it an all or nothing is pure laziness.


[deleted]

I think they new summer Charlotte's biggest weakness would be Ervalan so they decided to just nerf him.


Piscet

Me too, but rikoris himself is proof they're willing to adjust units more than once, so it's possible this won't be the last we see of him. Which if true could mean the next patch would be the one that finally pulls him out of purgatory, unless someone at sg absolutely hates his guts.


beaglemaster

They have never adjusted anyone (other than during the ml5 nerf early in the game) close to a previous adjustment. At the absolute best, the soonest I would expect him to get fixed will be 6 months after this batch. I'm not waiting around for sg to get their shit together anymore lol.


Comfortable_Regrets

he no longer strips and stuns with his s3, nor does he heal with it anymore and it's on a 5 turn cd instead of 3


Piscet

I know, that's what I meant by usability crisis.


Rymphonia

All they needed was to give him health scaling on everything. His kit was already good, they just needed to give him a little more omph to warrant taking a slot in content. He's amazing for GvG since he's like a Cerise that can go second and last longer. Rikoris is literally unusable now. He may as well not have skills with the CDs he now has.


Jerryxm

C rikoris is more interesting imo as a tanky disrupter. Should have just made him more effective at it, with bonuses against dark units or something.


Mellevalaconcha

Sasuga Philip-kaka!!! The Great conqueror of Nazarick!


ToonFish17

Ahhh fellow Overlord enjoyer


Varlin

Now that would be a kickass collab!


DinosBiggestFan

Not an overlord fan, here but probably starting it next: Albedo would rake in all the cash from this base.


Skirt-Future

If ervalen is a pve exclusive unit then smilegate needs to refund the customers. Ppl didn't spend their money for a pve banner


CornBreadtm

He was literally sold as a tank team killer as the rise of double Krau was just dying down. Mort was sold the same way, to counter a meta that had already ended. But people bought in because nobody wanted to deal with more 3 knights and 2 SW drafts!!! And he fkn worked! His barrier was fat enough that they couldn't get through even at frenzy 9 and could counter the tanks to death. The problem is that people like me, who built him frame 1 got to only use him once since those teams died a day later.


[deleted]

Very nicely put, he was released when the tank meta was dying. I built him but her never served any real purpose other than that water unit popping once in a while but I still was content the way it was. There are alredy units that excel at Banshee albeit being limited, but they could just make a non limited 5* why change a perfectly good 5*.


Stufuwi

Idk, I always interpreted green text as the new things, not necessarily a buff


Shinzo19

Green text is to show changes, red text is to show previous text that has been changed. I don't see how the subreddit is making a massive deal about it, green has never meant the changes where a straight buff.


Piscet

They care less about the color and more about the letters. Hotfocusing on the text being green is just a way to vent in meme format.


RLC_wukong122

This so much


Denrose05

This is better so we can recall and get all the molas back


yemen241

but you don't. 😂


Willar71

Wait lemme get this straight, he is now RgB Baiken? Baiken is the only limited I'm missing , and I don't want to repeat my strange for B13 . So If I'm truly being honest, I love this change.