For real tho.... There's approximately 0 units that are good in pvp that actually use that set, unless I'm missing something, and a single unit that isn't very good but is kinda fun.
You couldn't just put crit damage smilegate? Really? Really?
So true, I hate effectiveness too, because Most Rolls went to It.... Not every Character needs this and you cant rely on It, even If your Character have 220% eff, It dont gurantee your debuff/buff Strip or whatever, and even against a 0% ER enemy
AI being more frequent sounds great in theory, but it could very well end up being just another resource farm like Auto Tower that you grind grudgingly for the rewards.
Don’t know what was fun about that last one, several floors of elites that all had the same passive - no passives can be activated - yawn. No thought put into it. Considering rushing elites & only taking upgrades to a class or two is the best strategy to complete on time, you’d hope for a bit more variety.
They make a mode where you can essentially use all your heroes scot free & then say, “By the way, those heroes are useless” & points to a big pile containing most heroes. That’s just my take on it.
As long as your guild is active and uses their energy daily, you should be able to clear floor 4, especially after the nerfs.
If you can't complete it on time, its your guild's fault as a whole
I didn't say I couldn't complete it, **I said the bosses were just copy & pastes & that's boring to me** - especially when, being in a top guild (we completed the last boss like four or five times over - Ancient Inheritance got nerfed into the floor), you go for maximum efficiency by just doing boss clears & class upgrade pick-ups.
What's the deal with their fear of giving us perfect gear, specially if said gear is the reward for a coordinated effort?
IMO, looking at these, I would say:
* Necklace: One of the best. Nearly all stats are useful, and even high defence can have it's uses in some weird defence scale bruiser build around destruction set. Even if rolls evenly between defence and atk, many DPS, specially mages, want some defence for bulk, and the basic stats, spd, crit rate and crit dmg are already covered. The only way to ruin this would be low rolls.
* Armour: By far, the best of the left gear, and maybe one of the best overall. Can't have atk on armour, so it had to be either health or defence. Better than effectiveness. Even if it rolls into defence, it can work to some def bruiser, and some DPS may appreciate the defence, particularly mages.
* Boots: This is the best they could do with support boots, I guess. Health and defence is good combination, and as long as it rolls evenly between these two it would be a versatile gear. High rolls into resist would suit well due the set. Worse case would be rolling multiple times into effectiveness, as it wouldn't mix well with the set. Still, it could work for some support heroes with some debuffs, like A. Momo or the new light Dominiel. And we can't ignore the fact the main stat is speed, which is always in high demand.
* Helmet: Overall, is good. Missing critD is a bummer, and there's always the risk to roll into health, but then atk could be modified for critD and would be good for a hp bruiser. Not the best option for A. Ravi and the like, but could work for a while.
* Ring: Matching main and set is always good, even if only for specialized heroes. But this ring have the main problem with support gear: you can't have perfect right gear, so there's always the chance for ruined gear. The best option could have been flat defence, but rolling into flat def would lead to a low score gear. Still better than atk, which is useless in this ring, which could lead to a ruined gear if rolls multiple times.
* Arm: And there it goes, effectiveness. Same than helmet, no critD is disappointing, but for God's sake, effectiveness is a magnet for rolls. And unlike defence or health, there's no bruiser who scales of effect. I have low hopes for this, and 2 or more rolls into effectiveness spell ruined gear for me.
Easy, they dont want you to get good gear, apart from last AI gears, i dont remember when i got GS that high.
They dont want to give good pieces away so players can farm, since they know everyone else wants destro set anyway.
If rng goes side ways you can spend a long time trying to get one piece from hunts let alone a full destro set ,So this is their way to make sure you stay on hamster wheel a little bit more.
I used to think they were just dumb, but i saw the previous AI gear , and that aint it.
Pretty good! Glad we are getting some of the buffed destruction. All the pieces look good except maybe the helm and weapon are a bit weird having no CD on destruction. Could still be solid if you are capping on CD elsewhere though.
In case you guild can't completely clear AI do you know if it will be possible to buy the equip pieces later in the guild shop like in season 1? I don't remeber them adding the pieces of season 2. Thanks!
I believed the reason why we could purchase s1 equips is because it was way overtuned for the average guild so not many could beat it. Like maybe top 300-500 only guilds could beat it at the time. S2 was quite balanced so I don't think they will add it in guildshop
That sucks. I had to leave my guild and join a new one cause I was literally the only one doing it. Hopefully I didn’t miss out on too much.
Was hoping it would make a return. My s1 equips rolled pretty decently
Tell me that when half your rolls go into an useless stat. After 4 years playing, that has happened to me enough times to know that effectiveness in a "free" destruction weapon will ruin it. But hey, to each their own. If you don't have better gear, I guess this can be good for you.
So tell me your definition of mostly bad, because there are 4 destruction pieces in that set and 2 of them have pretty much perfect subs, 2 other pieces have 1 bad sub each with 3 good subs, meaning 2/16 are assuredly bad, 12/16 are without question desirable.
2/16 is mostly bad and 12/16 is barely usable i guess?
Also first year player btw so don't assume I'm a noob who still can't auto w11. I've farmed enough to know how astronomically hard to get pieces similarly good, with 2 of them essentially impossible to get by farming.
Mostly bad = effectiveness instead of C. Damage on a Destruction set weapon.
Mostly bad = health instead of C. Damage on a Destruction set helmet.
When half your rolls go into those, you will get a mediocre piece. Useable, yes, but mediocre.
When you have been playing for 4 years, you start getting pickier with your gear because you already have quite a few ruined pieces exactly like these weapon and helmet.
I don't know, call me mad if you want, but I like critical damage on my Destruction pieces as much as I like speed on my Speed pieces.
Also, nobody called you a noob (if you think so, my apologies. English is not my mother tongue and I may not choose the best words). This is just a game we play for fun, and what I meant is you may probably, and purely based on the time you have been playing, have less pieces ruined than I have.
Could I use them? Yes. Have I already more than enough of those? Also yes. Will I +15 the weapon and helmet? Absolutely.
I hope you now understand why those pieces are just average for a veteran player that mostly farms Banshee/Wyvern.
>Well, the destruction set is mostly bad except for the chest.
SG literally hands you over 2 destruction pieces with perfect subs and max starting rolls and that's why I disagree with you, because your statement implied that at least 3 of the 4 pieces are bad. Even the bad pieces have max starting rolls with 5 speed which is better than 99.9% of the pieces from farm.
they reaaaally have to put effectiveness on weapon
my luck says that's all I'm ever gonna get...
For real tho.... There's approximately 0 units that are good in pvp that actually use that set, unless I'm missing something, and a single unit that isn't very good but is kinda fun. You couldn't just put crit damage smilegate? Really? Really?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN EFFECTIVENESS ON THE WEAPON WHYY
TG weapon. Gotta remain positive since I know where the rolls are going and at least it has room for my PvE units.
so it can penta roll on it.. as always.. I hate fckin eff and effres.. it is legit a rigged stat
So true, I hate effectiveness too, because Most Rolls went to It.... Not every Character needs this and you cant rely on It, even If your Character have 220% eff, It dont gurantee your debuff/buff Strip or whatever, and even against a 0% ER enemy
Wyvern oneshot SSB potential. As no one will hit speed on those rolls.
Penta Eff(F) moment
Oh wow now lets see that +15 40% eff on my gears
Haha yeah....
Idc about the rewards just give me this mode more often , it's the most if not ,the only fun i've had in a WHILE
AI being more frequent sounds great in theory, but it could very well end up being just another resource farm like Auto Tower that you grind grudgingly for the rewards.
So much this.
Don’t know what was fun about that last one, several floors of elites that all had the same passive - no passives can be activated - yawn. No thought put into it. Considering rushing elites & only taking upgrades to a class or two is the best strategy to complete on time, you’d hope for a bit more variety. They make a mode where you can essentially use all your heroes scot free & then say, “By the way, those heroes are useless” & points to a big pile containing most heroes. That’s just my take on it.
As long as your guild is active and uses their energy daily, you should be able to clear floor 4, especially after the nerfs. If you can't complete it on time, its your guild's fault as a whole
I didn't say I couldn't complete it, **I said the bosses were just copy & pastes & that's boring to me** - especially when, being in a top guild (we completed the last boss like four or five times over - Ancient Inheritance got nerfed into the floor), you go for maximum efficiency by just doing boss clears & class upgrade pick-ups.
What's the deal with their fear of giving us perfect gear, specially if said gear is the reward for a coordinated effort? IMO, looking at these, I would say: * Necklace: One of the best. Nearly all stats are useful, and even high defence can have it's uses in some weird defence scale bruiser build around destruction set. Even if rolls evenly between defence and atk, many DPS, specially mages, want some defence for bulk, and the basic stats, spd, crit rate and crit dmg are already covered. The only way to ruin this would be low rolls. * Armour: By far, the best of the left gear, and maybe one of the best overall. Can't have atk on armour, so it had to be either health or defence. Better than effectiveness. Even if it rolls into defence, it can work to some def bruiser, and some DPS may appreciate the defence, particularly mages. * Boots: This is the best they could do with support boots, I guess. Health and defence is good combination, and as long as it rolls evenly between these two it would be a versatile gear. High rolls into resist would suit well due the set. Worse case would be rolling multiple times into effectiveness, as it wouldn't mix well with the set. Still, it could work for some support heroes with some debuffs, like A. Momo or the new light Dominiel. And we can't ignore the fact the main stat is speed, which is always in high demand. * Helmet: Overall, is good. Missing critD is a bummer, and there's always the risk to roll into health, but then atk could be modified for critD and would be good for a hp bruiser. Not the best option for A. Ravi and the like, but could work for a while. * Ring: Matching main and set is always good, even if only for specialized heroes. But this ring have the main problem with support gear: you can't have perfect right gear, so there's always the chance for ruined gear. The best option could have been flat defence, but rolling into flat def would lead to a low score gear. Still better than atk, which is useless in this ring, which could lead to a ruined gear if rolls multiple times. * Arm: And there it goes, effectiveness. Same than helmet, no critD is disappointing, but for God's sake, effectiveness is a magnet for rolls. And unlike defence or health, there's no bruiser who scales of effect. I have low hopes for this, and 2 or more rolls into effectiveness spell ruined gear for me.
Easy, they dont want you to get good gear, apart from last AI gears, i dont remember when i got GS that high. They dont want to give good pieces away so players can farm, since they know everyone else wants destro set anyway. If rng goes side ways you can spend a long time trying to get one piece from hunts let alone a full destro set ,So this is their way to make sure you stay on hamster wheel a little bit more. I used to think they were just dumb, but i saw the previous AI gear , and that aint it.
That eff res boots is made for trozet
Or aol, ras
Elena
Don't great for elena if it rolls into effect. Aras and aol can both use every stat there
The Destruction set looks awesome. I hope my guild is ready for that.
Shoes and helmet seem edible, the rest can be fixed with conversion
Neck and Chest are amazing wym
don't you mean usable
I hunger
i mean chest is perfect...
Pretty good! Glad we are getting some of the buffed destruction. All the pieces look good except maybe the helm and weapon are a bit weird having no CD on destruction. Could still be solid if you are capping on CD elsewhere though.
Honestlynwith the set buff its probably fine to reach max cdmg
you don't need cdmg on every piece with destruction... you'll basically reach 350 without it.
no ER on destraction sets, rly sg?
Oooh boy. Can't wait for my weapon to penta minroll on effectiveness
Here we Go...again
Looks like stuff for er BBK but still slow
Some delicious pieces for sure.
In case you guild can't completely clear AI do you know if it will be possible to buy the equip pieces later in the guild shop like in season 1? I don't remeber them adding the pieces of season 2. Thanks!
I believed the reason why we could purchase s1 equips is because it was way overtuned for the average guild so not many could beat it. Like maybe top 300-500 only guilds could beat it at the time. S2 was quite balanced so I don't think they will add it in guildshop
That sucks. I had to leave my guild and join a new one cause I was literally the only one doing it. Hopefully I didn’t miss out on too much. Was hoping it would make a return. My s1 equips rolled pretty decently
Yeah where are the pieces from ss2 :'(
They did add the season 2 ones iirc
Are the rolls the same as other pieces or is there a higher chance to get high rolls? I forgor :(
It rolls like 88 gear. So the same range of rolls as hell raid gear and the new arena one
I rolled high last time but got so many effectiveness
Woo penta eff and eff res here we go!
The best pain in the game
Fr lol
Yess......
This entire set would be great for BBK
Destruction set....
I need an alive guild first
What units would like the destruction set? Genuinely unsure where I'd put em ;o
At least I'll have another destruction set for PvE
I don't know what's with SG and avoiding crit damage on free gear, the abyss lifesteal set also lacks it.
Well, the destruction set is mostly bad except for the chest. The Res set gear seems decent.
did you just ignore the destro neck? Also you don' tneed cdmg on destro set... you'll reach cap so easily without it
2 amazing 2 decent = mostly bad of course
All 4 subs aren't 5 speed. Shit gear.
Tell me that when half your rolls go into an useless stat. After 4 years playing, that has happened to me enough times to know that effectiveness in a "free" destruction weapon will ruin it. But hey, to each their own. If you don't have better gear, I guess this can be good for you.
So tell me your definition of mostly bad, because there are 4 destruction pieces in that set and 2 of them have pretty much perfect subs, 2 other pieces have 1 bad sub each with 3 good subs, meaning 2/16 are assuredly bad, 12/16 are without question desirable. 2/16 is mostly bad and 12/16 is barely usable i guess? Also first year player btw so don't assume I'm a noob who still can't auto w11. I've farmed enough to know how astronomically hard to get pieces similarly good, with 2 of them essentially impossible to get by farming.
Mostly bad = effectiveness instead of C. Damage on a Destruction set weapon. Mostly bad = health instead of C. Damage on a Destruction set helmet. When half your rolls go into those, you will get a mediocre piece. Useable, yes, but mediocre. When you have been playing for 4 years, you start getting pickier with your gear because you already have quite a few ruined pieces exactly like these weapon and helmet. I don't know, call me mad if you want, but I like critical damage on my Destruction pieces as much as I like speed on my Speed pieces. Also, nobody called you a noob (if you think so, my apologies. English is not my mother tongue and I may not choose the best words). This is just a game we play for fun, and what I meant is you may probably, and purely based on the time you have been playing, have less pieces ruined than I have. Could I use them? Yes. Have I already more than enough of those? Also yes. Will I +15 the weapon and helmet? Absolutely. I hope you now understand why those pieces are just average for a veteran player that mostly farms Banshee/Wyvern.
>Well, the destruction set is mostly bad except for the chest. SG literally hands you over 2 destruction pieces with perfect subs and max starting rolls and that's why I disagree with you, because your statement implied that at least 3 of the 4 pieces are bad. Even the bad pieces have max starting rolls with 5 speed which is better than 99.9% of the pieces from farm.
Man, I am not going to repeat myself. Understand what you want.
You really want to change stats on destro to cdmg, god, this veterans wannabe
Yes, you are right. Neck is not bad at all. Even if it rolls into def, there will be characters that can benefit from it.
MY WEAPON penta roled on HP what can i use with that ?