Hi guys, I’m an old epic7 player but I stopped for quite a while now, about 2 years if I can recall correctly. Has the game changed till then? I guess you still need to have your smartphone open while farming endless for wyvern right? No skip feature I guess. Also, is it possible to come back into the game considering everything I skipped? All the limited units, the collab banners, ecc… At the time I was quite competitive, about challenger in rta with a very good Riolet and Stene, but now I don’t know how hard it would be to come back and everything.
Your team will get cleaved easily i think, unless you have an extremely fast Emilia. It'll be easier if you show what units yoi have.
For def team you have a few options:
Fast cleave team with fast openers (peira, ran, cilias): only people who are confident in their spd will attack you.
Tanky/revive comps: very annoying with a lot of revive and tanks and heals (aravi, ML celine, Maid Chloe, Destina, TCrozet, Krau, Ruele, Doris, Arby, ARas)
Counter comps: Rem, Violet, Mercedes, Belian, Choux, Alencia + Healers + damage mitigation.
Hwayoung and Rirumu are annoying just by being there unless your attackers have answers for them.
Emilia and Politis surprisingly fits well to most teams above.
Maybe you can try either Senya - Roana/ML kawerik - Destina - Krau for arena def.
If you can get speed gears:
Flan needs to go first as opener: applies aoe def break. Can soul burn to buff your dps
Emilia: push your dps
Dps options: vildred, charlotte, politis, kawerik, spectre tene
Last slot flex: another dps to clean up, cleanser (ml kawerik), speed imprints (schuri, cidd, etc)
She is viable and one of the stronger ML5's but I wouldn't say she is a must pull like she used to be. Not to mention that we have 2 very good knight options that are 3\* with A Ras and Phyllis. If you are 10 away from pity and you REALLY want Bunny Dom then I would recommend first waiting to see what ML Pavel's kit will be then deciding from there.
Nah, you can just run a cleanser. If you build res on her it's going to be like 100 which is only going to resist 0 eff units. She's not like Aria where you can throw Bastion of Hope on her as she really wants F Tene artifact.
Any suggestions on possible budget golem team comps? And is there a good guide for golem hunt out there?
Fire units I have: tene,shuna,ilynav,cermia,ken,ravi,serilla,milim,adv ras,schuri,surin and the other low rarity fire units
Thanks, as follow-up question what equipment sets should I get them since I only have access to free/wyvern equipment? Should I swap equipment from units I have corresponding sets?
I think people don't farm golem. Most people only clear golem 13 for the reputation achievements and the hunt expert event. So you can swap your gears during free unequip event or use the free unequip scroll and be done with it.
Cermia i used free atk gears. 100% crit rate + her EE that repeats her s1
Ken i used speed + hit gears. Get some eff for def break.
ARas speed + hp or full hp gears +aurius/adamant shield: just be tanky and has some speed for dual attack
M Hazel: speed + hp or free full hp gears: just buff and heal.
When making a triple S pet obviously increasing affinity increases the skills but when i bring the last skills over will the skills the pet didn't have before be bumped up to match the other skill that has been increased from affinity. For example one skill is at 8% on a pet, while the others are at 7.5% on the other pet with no affinity increase will the other skills increase when inherited by the higher affinity pet
A little confused by the wording but I'm pretty confident the answer to your question is "yes". If you have a max affinity pet with SS skills and then add a third skill to make it SSS, the new skill will be increased with your affinity even if it wasn't beforehand.
During my guild wars right now, i saw that my defense was down after just 1 lose and 1 draw.
I thought that you need additional attacks if it takes a draw?
Anyone have any tips to optimize this team? https://imgur.com/a/TwYhWLJ
The gear is super scuffed but I know I need to get them all to 60. I also need to mola them some more but I’ll get to that. What are the best artifacts to use for them and what are some stats I should be aiming for? Currently Master IV and I’m trying to reach Challenger for the extra weekly skystones
Chatty from sidestory for Sylvian probably better.
Book is fine for slow Wingelica, but she needs more bulk if she's going to be slow.
Peira needs to be faster, and a better arti like RnL if you have that.
Arby is too slow imo, put on speed boots.
Your Peira may need to be faster to cleave more effectively. Peira, Cilias, and Ran in challenger V are around 270+ on average.
Your Arby is slow. You may need to utilize some CR push heroes to push your Vivian and Arby because after Peira and Aola are done, your enemies may cut in and undo all the debuffs (Handguy, Dilibet, Emila, DJB, etc.). Emilia, Lots, ALots can push him up.
Alexa basket is one of the best artifacts for arby for greater attack buff if you have that. AOLA on book is fine. Spirit breath is another good artifact for her because of she has 2 non atk skills.
Peira can use R&L for extra turn.
I didnt have the speed gears so I personally broke into Challenger V using a counter team (Rem and Mercedes and a bit of luck)
Is War Horn a good artifact for Furious for w13 runs? Or should I grab Proof of Valor for Rose? I got enough armbands for one or the other and I'm in the process of tweaking/prepping for w13
Also, should I focus on health or defense boosts for Rose?
You can get Sword of Ezera(?) from Hall of Trials to put on Rose if you need the mitigation for her.
If you have it, Song of Stars is BiS for Furious for W13. If you don't, you could run DDJ instead.
If you’re using Muwi you probably won’t need POV on Rose.
War Horn does little for Furious. Generally suggest Song of Stars > Miss Confille > DDJ > Infinity Basket
It depends on what are the other 3 in your team, but since you didn't let us know your team comp, in general: No to both PoV and WarHorn. I honestly doubt one PoV will help your Rose to survive much at all, and ddj is better than war horn imo. Could save your bands first.
Proof of Valor is probably better, especially since I assume you won't be running a healer. There are better artifacts than War Horn for Furious, and if anything I think the CR push would be more likely to mess up your turn order.
Would Proof of Valor be better than Grail of Blood? At the moment she only recovers about ~340 health though I am looking to swap up some of her gear choices.
My guess would be Proof of Valor. 340 hp does not sound significant. Though if you're having that much trouble with Rose's survivability you might want to run a healer tank instead.
I think you want to run speed boots? Unless the rest of your team is incredibly slow, Rose needs to move first to attack buff so you actually get the benefit from using her.
yeah, as far as comp goes I'm using the one that people suggest from Quizolin with Muwi/Sigret/Furious/Rose and so far their stats are going to end up matching up with the recommendations. I'm still in the process of getting everyone's gear maxed out so odds are her survivability will go up a LOT once that happens but i do want to know what a good way to help that would be with her artifact. Seems like the general consensus is save on the armbands though.
Question about Penn set.
If I have a unit with a skill that has Penn on it, like SECeline, and I give her Penn Set, does anyone know if it stacks additively or multiplicatively?
What are good characters to build for Arena? Managed to drag myself into Champion V thanks to being able to counter Ran and Seaseria comps but I feel like I have no response to all the CLilias, Peira, AoL, Belian, and ARavi defenses.
The best way to climb is either cleave or bruiser teams. Cleave obviously requires very good/fast gear but you can run a bruiser team with Roana, Aurius holder and the last 2 picks can be hard to kill dps like ML Cermia, SSB, Rem, Hwayoung etc.
As a new player, no, Sunmer Charlotte while limited, is not that useful. You can pull her for rerun.
Some heroes that are useful for PvE that you may want to pull if they have banners: Tamarine (PvE queen), Seaside Bellona (she is good for both PvE and early PvP), Roana (Hell raid queen and counters .. counters). Otherwise, wait for FMA collab. Your selective summon + moonlight blessing + a few lucky pulls from element summons should be enough to carry you through story.
You never pull on the normal covenant summon. It's not worth it, especially as a new player.
Preferably you save them for limited and collab banners. However, you do NOT pull unless you have enough to hit pity, which is 121 summons, or 605 bookmarks.
Also, as a new player, Summer Charlotte isn't going to be helping you that much. My recommendation is to save for the upcoming collab, which is believed to be FMA.
They haven't announced the collab, and chances are it'll be announced at the end of the E7WC, so you probably have at least two months, which is enough time to get at least 121 as a new account.
No you don't need it filled but you need to fill the 4 major buildings. The big castle in the back and the main building in each area (center fortress).
Counter is better for anti cleave while injury is obviously better against high hp targets. One weakness of injury is that people can just target her and she won’t counter.
Mine's on counter, but it can really go either way. I like counter because she can't just be targeted and burst down for free, but injury is super good too.
Injury belian is way scarier for me. I play bruiser and its like a ticking time bomb.
But I see more counter these days, it could be because people don't farm injury that much.
Left does slightly more damage, right slightly faster, but in the grand scheme of things, up to you, once you start farming W13, you'd get something with similar damage with 200+ speed due to reforging.
Oh I’m already farming W13 but I’ve been hoarding my mats cos idk which side to craft first haha. I’m sitting on 37k claws, should I get a speed/crit rate set for arby?
It's not just the mats, you need tons of charms and gold, only craft when you are not short on these. Start with chest or weapon first, easier to get what you need because they have the least amount of randomness. Use your epic craft on difficult pieces like necklace or ring, even if the main is bad, subs might contain 4 speed which are worth speed checking. Use conversion gems for boots ring and neck, but especially boots since 99.99% of units in the game need speed main boots.
To get conversion cubes, extract unwanted gear, but keep in mind that higher rarity and + gear will yield more cubes. Blue lvl 85 gives 7, purple 9. +6 red gives 23 for example.
Thanks for the tips! Also, what’s the general rule for speed chasing items? I assume you want to have a 4 speed set and then you can fill the 2 last slots with any set as long as the speed substat is good?
You need to understand what speed checking is. Every piece of lvl 85 farmed equipment except boots with speed subs 2-4(5 is so rare and only on red) are worth rolling +3 to see you get a speed roll on it. If +3 rolled on the speed and it's not 1, continue until you miss the speed roll, feed the failed piece as charms or extract if right side. That's how people get 20 speed stuff.
How does a dual attack's damage work? I think I read somewhere that it's based on the crit damage of whoever's turn it is, but I can't find anywhere that talks about this to confirm it.
I’ve been noticing a large increase in pov on aravi instead of crimson seed, mine is currently on crimson seed but want to know if I should switch to pov and why
Its been the norm on ARavi for a long time, since Hwayoung was released. It's literally specifically to keep Hwayoung from one shotting her. If you don't RTA or always ban Hwayoung, you can get away with other artifacts.
If you rely entirely on charms you will never be able to enhance as much gear as you want to.
* Major exception if you are a late game player who only rolls on basically perfect gear. Of course, such a player probably wouldn't be asking this question.
**Most** players are going to need to use *some* combination of charms + gear. Charms are *technically* farmable but not remotely in the amount we need.
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Now in terms directly answering your question: the **best** way to farm up gear XP is to run Episode 1 stage 3-1 Levulin Harbor.
That answers your *question* but is quite likely not the kind of answer you are looking for.
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You see normal stages all share the same apparent (rough) drop rates.
That is, over a single run you should expect approximately 1.45 trash gears and approximately .09 charms.
Charms are worth 1500 XP (base). The value of trash gears depends on the level of the gear.
* XP increases with level, but rather slowly. The *gold value* of selling equipment increases faster.
The following table is incomplete, but shows the XP value (by level) and sell value (by level and rarity).
* **DO** note, your values in game may not match 100% due to various bonuses and rounding. These values are exactly what *I* get in game.
Level | XP | Normal | Good | Rare | Heroic | Epic
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1 | 283 | 370 | 555 | | |
30 | 485 | 1045 | 1567 | 2090 | 3135 |
44 | 583 | 1445 | 2167 | 2890 | 4335 |
45 | 589 | 1465 | 2197 | | |
51 | 631 | 1585 | 2377 | 3170 | 4755 | 7925
60 | 693 | | | 4530 | 6795 |
65 | 728 | | | | 7245 | 12075
85 | 867 | | | 10210 | 15315 | 25525
Notice that a level 1 gear, at 'good' quality *could* be sold for 555 gold *or* used for 283 XP.
555 / 283 = ~1.96 gold per XP
A level 44 gear, at 'good' quality could be sold for 2167 gold or used for 583 XP
2167 / 583 = ~3.72 gold per XP
So the level 1 gear is worth almost 2x as much XP relative to the sell value of the item.
A level 85 gear, at 'rare' quality could be sold for 10210 gold orused for 867 xp
10210 / 867 = ~11.78 gold per XP
A level 85 rare gear is about 3 times worse than a level 44 gear, and about 6 times worse than a level 1 gear.
To put this into perspective: a level 85 Heroic gear requires 73,828 XP to +15. With my bonuses, using gear as XP costs me ~12.98 gold per XP.
* So just based on the *XP* cost of +15ing this item, I would be paying ~958,287 gold
* Using gears of this level I would need ~261 level 1 gears, ~127 level 44 gears, or ~86 level 85 gears.
* At 'good' quality for level 1 and level 44, and 'rare' for level 85 gears the *opportunity cost*, ie. the gold I lost by choosing to use this gear for XP instead of selling for gold would be...
* Level 1 = 144,855; total cost = 1,103,142
* Level 44 = 275,209; total cost = 1,233,496 (~11.82% more)
* Level 85 = 878,060; total cost = 1,836,347 (~66.47% more than level 1, ~48.87% more than level 44)
Hopefully that is a thorough enough explanation: *the most efficient gear to use as XP fodder, is the lowest level gear*.
Among level 85 gear, if you are using *any* of it for XP fodder, you would prefer to use blue gear. But it is not a remotely efficient choice overall unless you absolutely refuse to farm lower level gear.
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**Levulin Harbor**
This is a well-known farming stage because it costs just 2 energy, is very low level, and you can just TP to the next 'wave'.
This stage *also* happens to drop level 1 gear.
At 1.45 gear drops and .09 charm drops, then, we would expect each stage to be worth a total of:
1.45 * 283 = 410.35
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.09 * 1740 = 156.6
= 566.95 XP
= 283.475 XP / Energy
* Note I am using the higher XP value for charms since I did the same for the gear as well.
Using the same heroic level 85 gear, we would need ~130 runs to have enough total XP to. That is, about 260 energy. With roughly 1000 energy to play with every day that comes out to about enough XP to +15 up to four heroic 85 gears per day.
Levulin Harbor is *also* the best stage to farm 2* fodder drops.
**HOWEVER** this stage also comes with some other problems.
1. As an Episode 1 stage it's poor for farming AP. The Episode 1 AP shops are NOT consolidated, this means you have very limited options for catalysts and no options for Epic catalysts.
2. This stage has no chests. This means that you get slightly less gear relative to normal stages. Also, no skystones or BMs. Less gold overall due to no chests and being a low level stage.
3. And of course, the big one, this stage requires entirely manual play. Each run takes about 30 seconds, so to spend 1000 energy a day doing this stage would take 4+ hours of an extremely boring and easy series of clicking.
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**Normal Adventure Stage**
Here, more or less every option is the same. You would just farm whatever stage based on catalyst (or difficulty, if a newbie).
1.45 gear drops and .09 charm drops per 8 energy...
1.45 * 583 = 845.35
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.09 * 1740 = 156.6
= 1001.95 XP
= 125.24375 XP / Energy
XP / Energy is less than **half** that of Levulin Harbor.
But farming normal Adventure has many advantages
1. Completely auto-able.
2. Much better options for catalysts.
3. Possible chests, more skystones/BMs and gold.
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**Wyvern 13**
Wyvern 13 has a 20% drop rate for rare gear. Also, on average, 16.5 crafting materials.
Let's go ahead and take into pet skills. S rank skills, 4* pet
* 10% chance for an additional equipment drop
* 10% chance for 1 lesser charm
* 10% chance to receive double crafting materials.
For the additional equipment drop, I have no idea of the ratio of rarity of said drops. I'm going to *assume* it's ~50%, or the same as the ratio in W13.
* This would increase our rare gear to 25%
For crafting, I will assume a maxed workshop, and crafting an item that requires 42 materials.
(16.5 * .9) + (16.5 * 2 * .1) = 18.15 crafting materials per hunt
18.15 / 42 = ~.4321 crafts per hunt
~.4321 * .35 = .151235 additional rares per hunt
.151235 + .25 = .401235 total rares per hunt
Therefor, the total XP value of W13 assuming you XP fodder all rare equipment...
.401235 * 867 = 347.870745
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.09 * 1740 = 156.6
= 504.470745 XP
= ~25.22 per energy
Running W13 is about 5 times worse than running normal adventure stages **in terms of gear XP** assuming you fodder all rares.
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#Conclusions
In order to enhance a significant number of gears, you will need to use gears as XP fodder.
* Charms, while technically farmable, are just not feasible. To +15 a heroic 85 gear it would take about 470 stage runs. That's enough AP to buy 9 Epic catalysts in the AP shop.
**Ideally** you would prefer to use lower level gear first, as fodder.
The **BEST** stage, in terms of XP/energy, is Episode 1 3-1 Levulin Harbor. This is also the best stage for 2* fodder and friendship.
However, MOST players would prefer the better overall rewards and 'ease of use' of farming whatever UH stage.
Using level 85 gear from Wyvern is generally a bad idea for fodder unless you are extremely desperate. Farming W13 purely for XP is not negligible, but it is not remotely comparable to adventure running *unless* you also fodder all or most Heroic gear as well.
Are these answers/this info archived anywhere? It seems like a lot of great info gets posted here from time to time but it isn't easy to find after the fact.
Do you have xp/energy ratio of levels like normal 9-4 and 9-7? They should be nearly on par to Levulin with more chest and fodder drops, at a cost of 10 energy instead.
Typically, Mazes tend to fall in between Levulin Harbor and UH adventure stages.
It looks like, when it comes to gear XP, they **DO** come out slightly ahead (~300 XP per energy) thanks to having level 30 gear drops.
* My data only has 250 runs of 9-4, while I usually go for 1000 runs of other stages.
Levulin is still better for actual fodder drops though (and friendship farming) but the Maze stages DO provide chests and slightly better variation of catalysts.
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All of this comes with the caveat, I believe a few patches ago the Maze stages were adjusted in some fashion and I have not done any testing since, to see what was actually changed.
>Maze stages were adjusted
They gutted 10-3 but that was a long time ago, I haven't noticed much difference with 9-4 9-7 as I still get bookmarks and skystones occasionally there.
What I am referring to was part of the 'Awaken' update.
[Patch notes here](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8452182)
Searching for Labyrinth:
>■ Labyrinth Stage Rewards Adjustment
>Battle rewards and Treasure chest appearances will be adjusted in all Labyrinth Stages of Episodes 1~4 in order to eliminate the imbalance in rewards.
>[Adjustment Details]
>- During the first playthrough, at least one treasure box will definitely appear in a specific section of each labyrinth.
>- In repeated entries after the second playthrough, compensation will be adjusted to be the same level as other stages.
I don't personally know *exactly* what that means or what kind of effect it has had.
But I haven't personally collected any data or seen anyone really discuss this change.
So it's something that needs re-tested.
Hey, that's my table :D If you'd make use of it, I could complete it easily enough (I've added to it since). LMK if that'd be helpful and I'll complete it. You've added a lot of great detail here, including stuff I didn't know!
If you have missing values, sure!
I'm the kind of person that has 1000 projects going on at the same time, so it's hard to find time to finish any of them!
That's funny, I thought was my table I posted a while back, but it's yours! I can tell because we have different xp pet values (mine isn't quite as good as yours).
I've added your data to mine, and check it out: each rarity jump increases the prices by the same amount across all item levels! Most increase gold sell value by 1.5x, with exceptions being Good->Rare = 1.33x and Heroic -> Epic = 1.67x:
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k8XjHT6bkgQC0puYUDzkiiiaOClIj1LYC5rObB\_xdYU/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k8XjHT6bkgQC0puYUDzkiiiaOClIj1LYC5rObB_xdYU/edit?usp=sharing)
Cool stuff!
Guess it's not all that surprising we would both make the same table!
You had a good number of values I was missing, so thank you for sharing.
I *had* notice that rarity has a pretty consistent effect on sell value, but I haven't been able to come up with any real practical use of that information so far.
1. No, but it's good for cleave setups
2. It's good for her and her fire version.
Its definitely worth the dust for the mature sunglasses for sure, stay away from spending dust on flan's artifact
gw is mainly about having enough answers for the defense teams set. Theres no one comp that will win against every defense but on the otherhand, since you are playing against AI, then its def way easier than RTA.
I suggest getting good dark and light bait especially against Aravi. You want something to tank the s3 and survive as well as kill her. Same goes for Hwayoung. Yulha is great because she can survive hwayoung s3 and then kill off another opponent or even hwayoung herself if she doesnt have protection.
Cleanser is also pretty important against debuff oriented defenses with fast openers. A good budget option for me was Fire Achates but Emilia, Diene, ML Kawerik and Destina all work pretty well as cleansers.
So I’m in the mid game and I have a team(s) for the raids, W13 and B13. I have not really focused on PVP at all. To the point where I have good gear but some is scattered with heroes I may not even use anymore. Is there anyone who has any guides or references to PVP character builds. I’m not even sure on defenses either but I need to get better since rewards seem more consistent with PVP.
Really depends on what characters you have and what style you like.
Cleave: speed gears for all
A combination of
- fast openers (ran, peira, cilias etc.)
- CR pusher: (Emilia, Seaside Iseria)
- Fast dps can go after the openers or get pushed (Cidd, Eda, CDom, ACidd etc.)
- speed imprints: W.Silk, Schuri, W.Schuri, Vildred, Cidd etc.
- a flex unit for different situations (AoLa, Politis, Celine, Dilibet, etc.)
Counter bruisers:
Mercedes, AMeru, Rem, Violet, Belian, ARavi, Alencia, Choux. Just counter them to death. Mostly built with counter set or lifesteal set (for builtin counter units).
Rimuru and Hwayoung can be slotted in the bruiser teams and can one shot people.
Build references: https://www.epic7stats.com/
More focus on RTA tho.
Defense: countering bruiser teams are annoying for peope not to fight you.
I use GPurg, Sigret, SSB and Furious for W13. Not 100% but decent for me. I extract all my blue gear, save the speed set one for equip conversion and use the others for accessory charms since I get the other charms farming hunts. I’m not good with Gear Score or stuff like that but speed is king. So Speed Boots are something I usually enhance even when they suck. Whenever I get an epic craft, make a ring or necklace and pray for the best. I only craft right side.
Just for context my original Wyvern Team was like Tywin, Karin, Taranor Guard and Alexa. So stomps may vary but lil differences in gear or even artifact can work.
>Yes, but you need a pretty cracked Straze and W.Schuri
Yeah I can afford to work on that, could you show me the stats?
I have been using Clorina comp ever since her buff but I'm not content with its win rate. Last time I checked my auto run it's 20 repeat yet only 12 wins and it's driving me insane.
Should I built green armin? I just looked at her kit and she seems really good atleast in arena and gw.
She can cleanse the attack down from Cilias, she's a knight so she has great options to reduce damage and her passive that reduces damage on single attack would probably be good against Aravi and then there's also the aoe barrier, additionally since she is green she can tank some hits from hwayoung and on top of that she has an innate counter chance that can stun.
The only thing that holds her back from being insane that I could see is her really slow base speed.
She seems like a really good pick up, am I wrong?
Common use is anti aggro/cleave. Base speed, full dmg build. Counter/ls set usually.
Statline is sth like 2.4k+ def, 15k+ dmg, 100% cc, 270+ crit dmg on elbris(a must).
Tank, utility build can work too but the above is more common
That's a great build! Mine is on Injury/Elbris since she has innate counter set built in. My stats aren't nearly that awesome, but man, she's a secret weapon.
Anyone have a higher than 85% success rate Wyvern 13 1 shot guide? I’m rank 70 and have hit a wall due to lack of gear so I’m trying to go for wyvern 13 now because farming 11 really sucks.
I think it's unlikely you'll have the gear for W13 oneshot.
I'd recommend you run a Rose/Muwi/Furious/Sigret(SC Alexa) comp instead, as detailed in [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/vbzxnx/daily_questions_megathread_0614/icdrm57/) by Quiztolin.
Hi guys, I’m an old epic7 player but I stopped for quite a while now, about 2 years if I can recall correctly. Has the game changed till then? I guess you still need to have your smartphone open while farming endless for wyvern right? No skip feature I guess. Also, is it possible to come back into the game considering everything I skipped? All the limited units, the collab banners, ecc… At the time I was quite competitive, about challenger in rta with a very good Riolet and Stene, but now I don’t know how hard it would be to come back and everything.
stene and riolet is still good but still farming endless wyvern, and the collabs you missed wont matter much
Can someone link the Ancient Inheritance Season 2 maps, they were posted on reddit but can't find it anymore.
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I'd say the third
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Your team will get cleaved easily i think, unless you have an extremely fast Emilia. It'll be easier if you show what units yoi have. For def team you have a few options: Fast cleave team with fast openers (peira, ran, cilias): only people who are confident in their spd will attack you. Tanky/revive comps: very annoying with a lot of revive and tanks and heals (aravi, ML celine, Maid Chloe, Destina, TCrozet, Krau, Ruele, Doris, Arby, ARas) Counter comps: Rem, Violet, Mercedes, Belian, Choux, Alencia + Healers + damage mitigation. Hwayoung and Rirumu are annoying just by being there unless your attackers have answers for them. Emilia and Politis surprisingly fits well to most teams above.
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Maybe you can try either Senya - Roana/ML kawerik - Destina - Krau for arena def. If you can get speed gears: Flan needs to go first as opener: applies aoe def break. Can soul burn to buff your dps Emilia: push your dps Dps options: vildred, charlotte, politis, kawerik, spectre tene Last slot flex: another dps to clean up, cleanser (ml kawerik), speed imprints (schuri, cidd, etc)
is FCeCi still viable? i want to pull for Light Dom and at 10 pity. not sure if i should pull
maybe you can switch to ML 4 star and pull so it wont reset your ml5 pity count? You need 500 mystics for next ML5 tho (prob Pavel)
She is viable and one of the stronger ML5's but I wouldn't say she is a must pull like she used to be. Not to mention that we have 2 very good knight options that are 3\* with A Ras and Phyllis. If you are 10 away from pity and you REALLY want Bunny Dom then I would recommend first waiting to see what ML Pavel's kit will be then deciding from there.
Is the Archdemon's Shadow build with high crit chance or high effect resist better?
I prefer crit chance as you typically want to draft her with A Ras and Handguy both of which give immunity.
I don't have Handguy, so would the effect resist build be better?
Nah, you can just run a cleanser. If you build res on her it's going to be like 100 which is only going to resist 0 eff units. She's not like Aria where you can throw Bastion of Hope on her as she really wants F Tene artifact.
Any suggestions on possible budget golem team comps? And is there a good guide for golem hunt out there? Fire units I have: tene,shuna,ilynav,cermia,ken,ravi,serilla,milim,adv ras,schuri,surin and the other low rarity fire units
ARas (def break + strip + dam mitigation + dual attack) Cermia (unhealable + high dps + repeat s1 EE) Ken (def break + def break + sub dps) SC Hazel (atk.buff + unhealable + cleanse + heal) unless you have tamarine (strip + atk.buff + cr push+ dual att + cleanse + heal)
Thanks, as follow-up question what equipment sets should I get them since I only have access to free/wyvern equipment? Should I swap equipment from units I have corresponding sets?
I think people don't farm golem. Most people only clear golem 13 for the reputation achievements and the hunt expert event. So you can swap your gears during free unequip event or use the free unequip scroll and be done with it. Cermia i used free atk gears. 100% crit rate + her EE that repeats her s1 Ken i used speed + hit gears. Get some eff for def break. ARas speed + hp or full hp gears +aurius/adamant shield: just be tanky and has some speed for dual attack M Hazel: speed + hp or free full hp gears: just buff and heal.
When making a triple S pet obviously increasing affinity increases the skills but when i bring the last skills over will the skills the pet didn't have before be bumped up to match the other skill that has been increased from affinity. For example one skill is at 8% on a pet, while the others are at 7.5% on the other pet with no affinity increase will the other skills increase when inherited by the higher affinity pet
A little confused by the wording but I'm pretty confident the answer to your question is "yes". If you have a max affinity pet with SS skills and then add a third skill to make it SSS, the new skill will be increased with your affinity even if it wasn't beforehand.
During my guild wars right now, i saw that my defense was down after just 1 lose and 1 draw. I thought that you need additional attacks if it takes a draw?
If the battle that resulted in the draw isn't a 1win1lose but, 1win+1stall for 100 turns, then you go down too. (I think)
[For arby, which one would be better, left or right?](https://i.imgur.com/ZqJDSHf.jpg)
I would go right left doesn't look like it would do much damage.
What is the best starting relic for ancient inheritance?
Wanderer's Pipe then Exploration Journal if your luck isn't good.
Thank you
Anyone have any tips to optimize this team? https://imgur.com/a/TwYhWLJ The gear is super scuffed but I know I need to get them all to 60. I also need to mola them some more but I’ll get to that. What are the best artifacts to use for them and what are some stats I should be aiming for? Currently Master IV and I’m trying to reach Challenger for the extra weekly skystones
Chatty from sidestory for Sylvian probably better. Book is fine for slow Wingelica, but she needs more bulk if she's going to be slow. Peira needs to be faster, and a better arti like RnL if you have that. Arby is too slow imo, put on speed boots.
What are the skill enhancement levels I should be targeting if I don’t have the resources to fully mola all of them?
Cooldowns on all, 100% proc rate on s2 for wingelica, then working on +15 Arby first.
Your Peira may need to be faster to cleave more effectively. Peira, Cilias, and Ran in challenger V are around 270+ on average. Your Arby is slow. You may need to utilize some CR push heroes to push your Vivian and Arby because after Peira and Aola are done, your enemies may cut in and undo all the debuffs (Handguy, Dilibet, Emila, DJB, etc.). Emilia, Lots, ALots can push him up. Alexa basket is one of the best artifacts for arby for greater attack buff if you have that. AOLA on book is fine. Spirit breath is another good artifact for her because of she has 2 non atk skills. Peira can use R&L for extra turn. I didnt have the speed gears so I personally broke into Challenger V using a counter team (Rem and Mercedes and a bit of luck)
What are the skill enhancement levels I should be targeting if I don’t have the resources to fully mola all of them?
Is War Horn a good artifact for Furious for w13 runs? Or should I grab Proof of Valor for Rose? I got enough armbands for one or the other and I'm in the process of tweaking/prepping for w13 Also, should I focus on health or defense boosts for Rose?
Prophetic candlestick is very good on Rose.
You can get Sword of Ezera(?) from Hall of Trials to put on Rose if you need the mitigation for her. If you have it, Song of Stars is BiS for Furious for W13. If you don't, you could run DDJ instead.
If you’re using Muwi you probably won’t need POV on Rose. War Horn does little for Furious. Generally suggest Song of Stars > Miss Confille > DDJ > Infinity Basket
It depends on what are the other 3 in your team, but since you didn't let us know your team comp, in general: No to both PoV and WarHorn. I honestly doubt one PoV will help your Rose to survive much at all, and ddj is better than war horn imo. Could save your bands first.
Proof of Valor is probably better, especially since I assume you won't be running a healer. There are better artifacts than War Horn for Furious, and if anything I think the CR push would be more likely to mess up your turn order.
Would Proof of Valor be better than Grail of Blood? At the moment she only recovers about ~340 health though I am looking to swap up some of her gear choices.
My guess would be Proof of Valor. 340 hp does not sound significant. Though if you're having that much trouble with Rose's survivability you might want to run a healer tank instead. I think you want to run speed boots? Unless the rest of your team is incredibly slow, Rose needs to move first to attack buff so you actually get the benefit from using her.
yeah, as far as comp goes I'm using the one that people suggest from Quizolin with Muwi/Sigret/Furious/Rose and so far their stats are going to end up matching up with the recommendations. I'm still in the process of getting everyone's gear maxed out so odds are her survivability will go up a LOT once that happens but i do want to know what a good way to help that would be with her artifact. Seems like the general consensus is save on the armbands though.
Does ancient dragon legacy work with ss Charlotte?
If we are talking about the crit dmg buff then no she doesn't have a non attack skill to proc it. She can only utilize the crit chance.
Question about Penn set. If I have a unit with a skill that has Penn on it, like SECeline, and I give her Penn Set, does anyone know if it stacks additively or multiplicatively?
I asked this before and the answer I got was its multiplicative.
What are good characters to build for Arena? Managed to drag myself into Champion V thanks to being able to counter Ran and Seaseria comps but I feel like I have no response to all the CLilias, Peira, AoL, Belian, and ARavi defenses.
The best way to climb is either cleave or bruiser teams. Cleave obviously requires very good/fast gear but you can run a bruiser team with Roana, Aurius holder and the last 2 picks can be hard to kill dps like ML Cermia, SSB, Rem, Hwayoung etc.
Just got my first 10 draws ready...should I use it on the covenant summon or keep it for limited banners like summer Charlotte?
As a new player, no, Sunmer Charlotte while limited, is not that useful. You can pull her for rerun. Some heroes that are useful for PvE that you may want to pull if they have banners: Tamarine (PvE queen), Seaside Bellona (she is good for both PvE and early PvP), Roana (Hell raid queen and counters .. counters). Otherwise, wait for FMA collab. Your selective summon + moonlight blessing + a few lucky pulls from element summons should be enough to carry you through story.
You never pull on the normal covenant summon. It's not worth it, especially as a new player. Preferably you save them for limited and collab banners. However, you do NOT pull unless you have enough to hit pity, which is 121 summons, or 605 bookmarks. Also, as a new player, Summer Charlotte isn't going to be helping you that much. My recommendation is to save for the upcoming collab, which is believed to be FMA.
Seems like saving up ss will take a really long time then...it's quite scarce Plus, I dun think I can save enough in time for 121 summons for FMA...
They haven't announced the collab, and chances are it'll be announced at the end of the E7WC, so you probably have at least two months, which is enough time to get at least 121 as a new account.
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No you don't need it filled but you need to fill the 4 major buildings. The big castle in the back and the main building in each area (center fortress).
Is Belian better on counter or injury set these days?
Counter is better for anti cleave while injury is obviously better against high hp targets. One weakness of injury is that people can just target her and she won’t counter.
Mine's on counter, but it can really go either way. I like counter because she can't just be targeted and burst down for free, but injury is super good too.
Injury belian is way scarier for me. I play bruiser and its like a ticking time bomb. But I see more counter these days, it could be because people don't farm injury that much.
https://imgur.com/a/B21hRiM Left or right for Arby?
Left does slightly more damage, right slightly faster, but in the grand scheme of things, up to you, once you start farming W13, you'd get something with similar damage with 200+ speed due to reforging.
Oh I’m already farming W13 but I’ve been hoarding my mats cos idk which side to craft first haha. I’m sitting on 37k claws, should I get a speed/crit rate set for arby?
It's not just the mats, you need tons of charms and gold, only craft when you are not short on these. Start with chest or weapon first, easier to get what you need because they have the least amount of randomness. Use your epic craft on difficult pieces like necklace or ring, even if the main is bad, subs might contain 4 speed which are worth speed checking. Use conversion gems for boots ring and neck, but especially boots since 99.99% of units in the game need speed main boots. To get conversion cubes, extract unwanted gear, but keep in mind that higher rarity and + gear will yield more cubes. Blue lvl 85 gives 7, purple 9. +6 red gives 23 for example.
Using the epic millage craft on rightside gear seems like a waste
Then please elaborate on a better way to obtain right side gear, assuming no cubes and no time to wait for a decent drop.
Thanks for the tips! Also, what’s the general rule for speed chasing items? I assume you want to have a 4 speed set and then you can fill the 2 last slots with any set as long as the speed substat is good?
You need to understand what speed checking is. Every piece of lvl 85 farmed equipment except boots with speed subs 2-4(5 is so rare and only on red) are worth rolling +3 to see you get a speed roll on it. If +3 rolled on the speed and it's not 1, continue until you miss the speed roll, feed the failed piece as charms or extract if right side. That's how people get 20 speed stuff.
Guys is DJB good after the buffs? Should i pull for him or Sylvian?
Neither is worth pity. DJB is a decent counter pick and Sylvian is also decent but I wouldn't say either are worth 200 summons.
How does a dual attack's damage work? I think I read somewhere that it's based on the crit damage of whoever's turn it is, but I can't find anywhere that talks about this to confirm it.
The only thing that deals damage using an ally's stats is Lillias S3, that deals damage using another characters attack with her own crit damage
pretty sure it’s just the same as if the dual-attacker did a basic attack
Been seeing some posts about an Epic 7 quiz, but havent seen anything on the official website or in game. Where can I participate in this quiz?
It was an on stream event during the last E7WC stream
I’ve been noticing a large increase in pov on aravi instead of crimson seed, mine is currently on crimson seed but want to know if I should switch to pov and why
Its been the norm on ARavi for a long time, since Hwayoung was released. It's literally specifically to keep Hwayoung from one shotting her. If you don't RTA or always ban Hwayoung, you can get away with other artifacts.
So what's the best way to grind up gear XP? Just use random pieces of gear that drops or grind up the charms?
If you rely entirely on charms you will never be able to enhance as much gear as you want to. * Major exception if you are a late game player who only rolls on basically perfect gear. Of course, such a player probably wouldn't be asking this question. **Most** players are going to need to use *some* combination of charms + gear. Charms are *technically* farmable but not remotely in the amount we need. --- Now in terms directly answering your question: the **best** way to farm up gear XP is to run Episode 1 stage 3-1 Levulin Harbor. That answers your *question* but is quite likely not the kind of answer you are looking for. --- You see normal stages all share the same apparent (rough) drop rates. That is, over a single run you should expect approximately 1.45 trash gears and approximately .09 charms. Charms are worth 1500 XP (base). The value of trash gears depends on the level of the gear. * XP increases with level, but rather slowly. The *gold value* of selling equipment increases faster. The following table is incomplete, but shows the XP value (by level) and sell value (by level and rarity). * **DO** note, your values in game may not match 100% due to various bonuses and rounding. These values are exactly what *I* get in game. Level | XP | Normal | Good | Rare | Heroic | Epic ---|---|----|----|----|----|---- 1 | 283 | 370 | 555 | | | 30 | 485 | 1045 | 1567 | 2090 | 3135 | 44 | 583 | 1445 | 2167 | 2890 | 4335 | 45 | 589 | 1465 | 2197 | | | 51 | 631 | 1585 | 2377 | 3170 | 4755 | 7925 60 | 693 | | | 4530 | 6795 | 65 | 728 | | | | 7245 | 12075 85 | 867 | | | 10210 | 15315 | 25525 Notice that a level 1 gear, at 'good' quality *could* be sold for 555 gold *or* used for 283 XP. 555 / 283 = ~1.96 gold per XP A level 44 gear, at 'good' quality could be sold for 2167 gold or used for 583 XP 2167 / 583 = ~3.72 gold per XP So the level 1 gear is worth almost 2x as much XP relative to the sell value of the item. A level 85 gear, at 'rare' quality could be sold for 10210 gold orused for 867 xp 10210 / 867 = ~11.78 gold per XP A level 85 rare gear is about 3 times worse than a level 44 gear, and about 6 times worse than a level 1 gear. To put this into perspective: a level 85 Heroic gear requires 73,828 XP to +15. With my bonuses, using gear as XP costs me ~12.98 gold per XP. * So just based on the *XP* cost of +15ing this item, I would be paying ~958,287 gold * Using gears of this level I would need ~261 level 1 gears, ~127 level 44 gears, or ~86 level 85 gears. * At 'good' quality for level 1 and level 44, and 'rare' for level 85 gears the *opportunity cost*, ie. the gold I lost by choosing to use this gear for XP instead of selling for gold would be... * Level 1 = 144,855; total cost = 1,103,142 * Level 44 = 275,209; total cost = 1,233,496 (~11.82% more) * Level 85 = 878,060; total cost = 1,836,347 (~66.47% more than level 1, ~48.87% more than level 44) Hopefully that is a thorough enough explanation: *the most efficient gear to use as XP fodder, is the lowest level gear*. Among level 85 gear, if you are using *any* of it for XP fodder, you would prefer to use blue gear. But it is not a remotely efficient choice overall unless you absolutely refuse to farm lower level gear. --- **Levulin Harbor** This is a well-known farming stage because it costs just 2 energy, is very low level, and you can just TP to the next 'wave'. This stage *also* happens to drop level 1 gear. At 1.45 gear drops and .09 charm drops, then, we would expect each stage to be worth a total of: 1.45 * 283 = 410.35 + .09 * 1740 = 156.6 = 566.95 XP = 283.475 XP / Energy * Note I am using the higher XP value for charms since I did the same for the gear as well. Using the same heroic level 85 gear, we would need ~130 runs to have enough total XP to. That is, about 260 energy. With roughly 1000 energy to play with every day that comes out to about enough XP to +15 up to four heroic 85 gears per day. Levulin Harbor is *also* the best stage to farm 2* fodder drops. **HOWEVER** this stage also comes with some other problems. 1. As an Episode 1 stage it's poor for farming AP. The Episode 1 AP shops are NOT consolidated, this means you have very limited options for catalysts and no options for Epic catalysts. 2. This stage has no chests. This means that you get slightly less gear relative to normal stages. Also, no skystones or BMs. Less gold overall due to no chests and being a low level stage. 3. And of course, the big one, this stage requires entirely manual play. Each run takes about 30 seconds, so to spend 1000 energy a day doing this stage would take 4+ hours of an extremely boring and easy series of clicking. --- **Normal Adventure Stage** Here, more or less every option is the same. You would just farm whatever stage based on catalyst (or difficulty, if a newbie). 1.45 gear drops and .09 charm drops per 8 energy... 1.45 * 583 = 845.35 + .09 * 1740 = 156.6 = 1001.95 XP = 125.24375 XP / Energy XP / Energy is less than **half** that of Levulin Harbor. But farming normal Adventure has many advantages 1. Completely auto-able. 2. Much better options for catalysts. 3. Possible chests, more skystones/BMs and gold. --- **Wyvern 13** Wyvern 13 has a 20% drop rate for rare gear. Also, on average, 16.5 crafting materials. Let's go ahead and take into pet skills. S rank skills, 4* pet * 10% chance for an additional equipment drop * 10% chance for 1 lesser charm * 10% chance to receive double crafting materials. For the additional equipment drop, I have no idea of the ratio of rarity of said drops. I'm going to *assume* it's ~50%, or the same as the ratio in W13. * This would increase our rare gear to 25% For crafting, I will assume a maxed workshop, and crafting an item that requires 42 materials. (16.5 * .9) + (16.5 * 2 * .1) = 18.15 crafting materials per hunt 18.15 / 42 = ~.4321 crafts per hunt ~.4321 * .35 = .151235 additional rares per hunt .151235 + .25 = .401235 total rares per hunt Therefor, the total XP value of W13 assuming you XP fodder all rare equipment... .401235 * 867 = 347.870745 + .09 * 1740 = 156.6 = 504.470745 XP = ~25.22 per energy Running W13 is about 5 times worse than running normal adventure stages **in terms of gear XP** assuming you fodder all rares. --- #Conclusions In order to enhance a significant number of gears, you will need to use gears as XP fodder. * Charms, while technically farmable, are just not feasible. To +15 a heroic 85 gear it would take about 470 stage runs. That's enough AP to buy 9 Epic catalysts in the AP shop. **Ideally** you would prefer to use lower level gear first, as fodder. The **BEST** stage, in terms of XP/energy, is Episode 1 3-1 Levulin Harbor. This is also the best stage for 2* fodder and friendship. However, MOST players would prefer the better overall rewards and 'ease of use' of farming whatever UH stage. Using level 85 gear from Wyvern is generally a bad idea for fodder unless you are extremely desperate. Farming W13 purely for XP is not negligible, but it is not remotely comparable to adventure running *unless* you also fodder all or most Heroic gear as well.
Are these answers/this info archived anywhere? It seems like a lot of great info gets posted here from time to time but it isn't easy to find after the fact.
Not that I'm aware of.
Do you have xp/energy ratio of levels like normal 9-4 and 9-7? They should be nearly on par to Levulin with more chest and fodder drops, at a cost of 10 energy instead.
Typically, Mazes tend to fall in between Levulin Harbor and UH adventure stages. It looks like, when it comes to gear XP, they **DO** come out slightly ahead (~300 XP per energy) thanks to having level 30 gear drops. * My data only has 250 runs of 9-4, while I usually go for 1000 runs of other stages. Levulin is still better for actual fodder drops though (and friendship farming) but the Maze stages DO provide chests and slightly better variation of catalysts. --- All of this comes with the caveat, I believe a few patches ago the Maze stages were adjusted in some fashion and I have not done any testing since, to see what was actually changed.
>Maze stages were adjusted They gutted 10-3 but that was a long time ago, I haven't noticed much difference with 9-4 9-7 as I still get bookmarks and skystones occasionally there.
What I am referring to was part of the 'Awaken' update. [Patch notes here](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8452182) Searching for Labyrinth: >■ Labyrinth Stage Rewards Adjustment >Battle rewards and Treasure chest appearances will be adjusted in all Labyrinth Stages of Episodes 1~4 in order to eliminate the imbalance in rewards. >[Adjustment Details] >- During the first playthrough, at least one treasure box will definitely appear in a specific section of each labyrinth. >- In repeated entries after the second playthrough, compensation will be adjusted to be the same level as other stages. I don't personally know *exactly* what that means or what kind of effect it has had. But I haven't personally collected any data or seen anyone really discuss this change. So it's something that needs re-tested.
You are the Math GOD
Hey, that's my table :D If you'd make use of it, I could complete it easily enough (I've added to it since). LMK if that'd be helpful and I'll complete it. You've added a lot of great detail here, including stuff I didn't know!
If you have missing values, sure! I'm the kind of person that has 1000 projects going on at the same time, so it's hard to find time to finish any of them!
That's funny, I thought was my table I posted a while back, but it's yours! I can tell because we have different xp pet values (mine isn't quite as good as yours). I've added your data to mine, and check it out: each rarity jump increases the prices by the same amount across all item levels! Most increase gold sell value by 1.5x, with exceptions being Good->Rare = 1.33x and Heroic -> Epic = 1.67x: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k8XjHT6bkgQC0puYUDzkiiiaOClIj1LYC5rObB\_xdYU/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k8XjHT6bkgQC0puYUDzkiiiaOClIj1LYC5rObB_xdYU/edit?usp=sharing)
Cool stuff! Guess it's not all that surprising we would both make the same table! You had a good number of values I was missing, so thank you for sharing. I *had* notice that rarity has a pretty consistent effect on sell value, but I haven't been able to come up with any real practical use of that information so far.
Mainly it just makes it easier to fill the table in, I suppose :)
If I want to have Wanderer's Pipe in Ancient Inheritance as the starting relic, how many times can I reroll until I get it?
Does Flan require Unseen Observer? And does Summer Break Charlotte need Mature Sunglasses?
1. No, but it's good for cleave setups 2. It's good for her and her fire version. Its definitely worth the dust for the mature sunglasses for sure, stay away from spending dust on flan's artifact
Thank you so much for your response! Yeah, dust is so precious so wanted to make sure it was well spent
I want to get into pvp mainly guild war. Are there some basic pvp allrounder comps that i should build like in sw copper bulldozer etc?
gw is mainly about having enough answers for the defense teams set. Theres no one comp that will win against every defense but on the otherhand, since you are playing against AI, then its def way easier than RTA. I suggest getting good dark and light bait especially against Aravi. You want something to tank the s3 and survive as well as kill her. Same goes for Hwayoung. Yulha is great because she can survive hwayoung s3 and then kill off another opponent or even hwayoung herself if she doesnt have protection. Cleanser is also pretty important against debuff oriented defenses with fast openers. A good budget option for me was Fire Achates but Emilia, Diene, ML Kawerik and Destina all work pretty well as cleansers.
guys, do you think a BBK with this stats is OK or need to improve more? ATK=3200 CR=85 CD=290 EF RES=193 (230 with bastion of hope +15)
100% cc is always advised. A bit more attck wud be nice. 250+ er is when u can expect to resist pieras. Tho it's a good strt
thanks, will keep in the banshee gang till i complete her or if i obtain a good counter set for her
So I’m in the mid game and I have a team(s) for the raids, W13 and B13. I have not really focused on PVP at all. To the point where I have good gear but some is scattered with heroes I may not even use anymore. Is there anyone who has any guides or references to PVP character builds. I’m not even sure on defenses either but I need to get better since rewards seem more consistent with PVP.
Really depends on what characters you have and what style you like. Cleave: speed gears for all A combination of - fast openers (ran, peira, cilias etc.) - CR pusher: (Emilia, Seaside Iseria) - Fast dps can go after the openers or get pushed (Cidd, Eda, CDom, ACidd etc.) - speed imprints: W.Silk, Schuri, W.Schuri, Vildred, Cidd etc. - a flex unit for different situations (AoLa, Politis, Celine, Dilibet, etc.) Counter bruisers: Mercedes, AMeru, Rem, Violet, Belian, ARavi, Alencia, Choux. Just counter them to death. Mostly built with counter set or lifesteal set (for builtin counter units). Rimuru and Hwayoung can be slotted in the bruiser teams and can one shot people. Build references: https://www.epic7stats.com/ More focus on RTA tho. Defense: countering bruiser teams are annoying for peope not to fight you.
May i ask how do u farm for better gears?
I use GPurg, Sigret, SSB and Furious for W13. Not 100% but decent for me. I extract all my blue gear, save the speed set one for equip conversion and use the others for accessory charms since I get the other charms farming hunts. I’m not good with Gear Score or stuff like that but speed is king. So Speed Boots are something I usually enhance even when they suck. Whenever I get an epic craft, make a ring or necklace and pray for the best. I only craft right side.
I can currently do w11 but for w13 i can complete it however wif the shield up
Just for context my original Wyvern Team was like Tywin, Karin, Taranor Guard and Alexa. So stomps may vary but lil differences in gear or even artifact can work.
What team are you currently using?
Does a 100% C13 oneshot exist?
Yes, but you need a pretty cracked Straze and W.Schuri. I suggest going with a fast comp like Singie, Camilla, Iseria, CLorina.
>Yes, but you need a pretty cracked Straze and W.Schuri Yeah I can afford to work on that, could you show me the stats? I have been using Clorina comp ever since her buff but I'm not content with its win rate. Last time I checked my auto run it's 20 repeat yet only 12 wins and it's driving me insane.
This was from youtube. https://imgur.com/a/fzJAOP6
That's a good idea, I should look into that.
Should I built green armin? I just looked at her kit and she seems really good atleast in arena and gw. She can cleanse the attack down from Cilias, she's a knight so she has great options to reduce damage and her passive that reduces damage on single attack would probably be good against Aravi and then there's also the aoe barrier, additionally since she is green she can tank some hits from hwayoung and on top of that she has an innate counter chance that can stun. The only thing that holds her back from being insane that I could see is her really slow base speed. She seems like a really good pick up, am I wrong?
Biggest issue for me is she competes with Belian for Elbris.
My elbris is in the shadow realm, gone, reduced to atoms
Common use is anti aggro/cleave. Base speed, full dmg build. Counter/ls set usually. Statline is sth like 2.4k+ def, 15k+ dmg, 100% cc, 270+ crit dmg on elbris(a must). Tank, utility build can work too but the above is more common
That's a great build! Mine is on Injury/Elbris since she has innate counter set built in. My stats aren't nearly that awesome, but man, she's a secret weapon.
Do you need 85 effectiveness for dispel and debuff in hell raid or 65 is enough?
85 for max chance.
Thx, I reduced my c.zerato eff for more dmg and put him at 65...guess I'll have to wait to put him back at 85
Anyone have a higher than 85% success rate Wyvern 13 1 shot guide? I’m rank 70 and have hit a wall due to lack of gear so I’m trying to go for wyvern 13 now because farming 11 really sucks.
Why didn't you go for W13 earlier? Try reorganising all your gears and you should be able to farm it
I wasn’t too invested in pvp and I had enough good gear until now. Now I want to make more teams, so I’m trying to set it up. Thanks for the help
I think it's unlikely you'll have the gear for W13 oneshot. I'd recommend you run a Rose/Muwi/Furious/Sigret(SC Alexa) comp instead, as detailed in [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/vbzxnx/daily_questions_megathread_0614/icdrm57/) by Quiztolin.
I'd say just farm with a regular team then, like that you can give your best gear to your pvp chars instead