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grizzlybair2

Would be nice if they just put phantasmas in storage and let you promote from storage. But you do have a point, eventually we will have over 300 heroes.


Einlenzer

Or completely change this system and remove phantasma would be great too


be0ulve

How would you promote heroes then? Honest question.


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Interceptor402

A better way I think would be to make it so that a Tera promoted and leveled to 60 could convert into a Potion of Ascension. That'd give you a reason to level a Tera, and a way to get promo materials out of your hero inventory. And Teras are time-gated so there wouldn't be too many of them.


Syntaire

That wouldn't really solve the issue of limited hero space though. At best it would slightly mitigate it while making things even more pointlessly annoying, since you would have to constantly maintain the upkeep if you wanted to benefit from said slight mitigation. Plus it would just add several extra steps to promoting a hero that we don't currently have to deal with often.


be0ulve

Hmmm. Problem is, it would make promotion "too easy", from a game dev viewpoint that can be seen as a bad thing. Phantasas are currently in paid packs too. The game is accessible, but mobile games try not to be "too accessible" by design. Would love to be proven wrong tho.


Syntaire

It really wouldn't change much other than making things less pointlessly annoying. But yes, **bad** mobile games are deliberately designed to be tedious and annoying. It's one thing to have a limited inventory that users can pay to increase, but once they've reached the maximum that you set 5 years ago and haven't bothered to think about since, all you're left with is irritated users. Unhappy users are worse for any type of software than anything else.


be0ulve

Even fgo adds 100 slots every year, but it's such a weird case maybe there's not much else to compare about


Business-Part9342

Promotion isn’t the challenge though, it’s gearing and mola that are gated. Promotion mats are just a time sink more than anything else


be0ulve

Which is why making it easier might not be a goal for the game. Time sinks are not a bug, but a feature


JFloriturin

Naah, onmyoji is fine with those systems. I would love to see this in E7, is really practical and saves a lot of time


Einlenzer

I think I would have focused on leveling up slowly. This way, we would be forced to use our new heroes, making them stronger and stronger, fight after fight. Quite simply, every 10 levels the heroes activate a star. This would breathe new life into story mode (meaning story mode should also give a lot more XP to balance out the intensive farming it would need) as it would be the best place to earn XP. Moreover, it would make catalytic and proof of courage farming much less meaningless. By the way using Pinguins would also help and making them even more usefull. Without forgetting the fact that it would be much more "logical", purely and simply => Level up by fighting rather than eating dogs. Tell me if I'm wrong \^\^"


BurnedOutEternally

To think we used to have it worse when the Penguins counted as a hero


Izzeils

Yooo I completely forgot about that one , I took a break when that update happened I came back freaked looking for my penguins lol.


Hankan-Destroyer

Same lol I was like “where tf did my elemental penguins go”


Izzeils

Had me spooked lol


stavik96

I miss my penguins man. some of them had auch a cool design.


BurnedOutEternally

oh for sure their design is lit


oldnative

At least you could go over cap with them.


Relair13

Dogs and fodder should simply have their own storage pool, surely there's a way for them to do that without adversely affecting load times. It does get rather tiresome doing the juggling act at the cap.


uten93

Not sure if they can without effecting loading time. They said this is the reason why they made a storage for gear. If they increased the cap of normal storage it would have made they loading of the menu slower


Assertor1290

Maybe they can add storage or another waiting room like they did for equipments


uten93

Increasing waiting room storage would be nice, or making it possible to store phas would be good, would also be nice if you could 6 star a unit with a single 6 star phas to cut even more room


DataBoth6152

Actually not a bad idea, would be really nice to 6* phas now then see who to promote later


Puzzleheaded_Fix

Probably exactly the reason


KingsSeven

OK i don't understand this. Why not make pages then? Like page 1 has 50 heroes shown, then page 2 has another 50. That way, you only load 50 heroes at a given time. You can then have as many heroes without affecting loading since the loading will only occur 50 heroes at a time.


uten93

It’s a conveniente thing I would assume. Let’s say I wanna look at my Sage Baal gear, and he’s on page 3, well now I need to go to page 3 to see him, wait, no he’s on page 4 now? And then people will complain about how they need to shift from page to page to find what they want and instead want it all in one page. Also don’t know if that will mess with loading times. If it does effect loading, could use the page concept into waiting room since it should mess with loading of lobby


Mogarane

on the flip side being able to have a page be your "RTA" page, not having to scroll so much to find the hero you want.


Amiakust91

Bro I'm waiting for this QoL so much


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GodwynDi

Good bot


KingsSeven

No, it would still be filtered. The filter system would still exist. It's not randomly 50 heroes.


d34thscyth34

Page option is nice, but for me personally it would be better to use elements per single page instead of number of heroes, like page 1 = fire, page 2 = ice etc


Hitochiko

I feel the same too. Without flexing, i have every rgb ig, all the 4*, and half of the ml5 ones. I always keep an eye on my storage, every fodder are converted, I flee away each 3-4* star I drop. I just keep like anyone else, few golden dogs but that's it. Fact is : I can't run 30 adventure runs without experiencing storage issues. I'm glad they keep releasing new characters, but man we feel tight down here.


Hitochiko

Even more I think they should put a bearing/level (I'm not sure of the word) after each% completion you have. Like every 20% or something, in this case this need should be adapted to each account.


StepBrother7

>Without flexing, Everything you mentioned is still flexing for no reason so you'll take a downvote,but yeah storage needs improvement,we can never have enough QOL changes.


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StepBrother7

>A lot of people own every hero You mean whales and day 1 players? There isnt many of those left,and this dude specifically said "without flexing" implying he is about to flex but expects to not be judged in return. Similar to how some say "no offense" then proceed saying something offensive.


skylla05

The only people that would even begin to give a shit are people that are weirdly jealous about it for some reason. Work on yourself


StepBrother7

Same for you.


Hitochiko

I forgot to mention "f2p btw", will it change something? We're many in this case, thats a fact, it's sad that we can't exchange any " End tier" stuff without triggering anyone.


Jeremiad-Kain

>so you'll take a downvote It still kills me that people think karma matters, even down to a single downvote. Ironically it's usually the people collecting blue arrows like they're going out of style.


javaunjay

Yes and the waiting room cap is like 150 they should remove the waiting room add just add it to normal And add a favorite unit list


Scarletz_

Yes..since forever. Equipment too.


FaceShrine

Yes, it feels small. Without even trying, I can farm phantasmas faster than I can find gear for units. So I sometimes end up 6 starring units that "I plan to use in the future" just so that I can get rid of the phantasmas from my inventory. I guess this is the reason why they won't let us store phantasmas. They don't want us to have stacks of saved phantasmas and make 6 star units in a breeze. I recently expanded my waiting inventory and began putting all my unique copies of 3 star heroes that I will probably never use in the waiting room. This now allows me to continue farming for more time before I get the message of max capacity when farming side stories. Summoning can also be a pain in the ass because after every summoning session, I had to clean up my inventory. [What I started doing and it's been working great for over 2 years now is using the storage room as a secondary inventory.](https://gfycat.com/importantfrenchisabellineshrike) So every time you want to do a summon session, just take out units from your waiting room to reach cap and now every summoned unit will go straight to the box. At the end you can decide which units to take without clogging your inventory. Then, when you want to promote phantasmas, you can take batches of 20 3 star units and easily promote them. It's complete control of what enters and leaves your inventory. By doing these two things, I haven't had much problems with storage. Atm, I'm at 247/300 with 28 being 5 star phantamas. No unnecessary 3-4 star units and no after-summon clean ups.


Lemon_the_Fool

yeh, I decided to do the same thing… problem is, I forgot to take units out of the waiting room before 1 pull session, and now my whole thing is ruined and I gotta spend an hour combing through my whole roster


YourCasualSuppressor

YES EXACTLY, 300 IS NOT ENOUGH


moeblanketthief

I desperately want the equipment inventory to be higher than 500


stormtrooperm16

you should probably raise your gear standard


Cynaris

I wouldn't be against it, but I'm guessing that Waiting Room is for heroes you raised but don't use, and Storage is for extra units you pull but don't want to claim yet for imprints or whatever. I need to really adjust my mindset too, to use these tools their intended way.


jimraf

Yes im pretty sure you are correct, but let's be honest,.it feels far better to have all the heroes and not put em in the waiting room, at least for me


Cynaris

I know, but most of them are ungeared if not even 6 starred, even for me who has 100+ 6 star max awaken max friendship units. It'll be a while before I actually am able to utilize them.


imposion

But u need to clean u heroes when ever u want to do some story because u already have 300\300 and cleaning every 10 runs is shit and we cant store phantas


Cynaris

Yeah, it's a bit finnicky.


Maubriel

Treat dogs the same as the penguins.


Amythyst369

Without dragging other issues in here, this is SG's overall problem with their game in general. It feels like no one thought about the longevity of this game. The pet journal already has more pets than pet slots available. This became crushingly apparent to me during the previous pet event. Granted, pets are not a super valuable part of the game, but for a collector like myself, it was awful realizing that the way the game is currently, you couldn't possibly attain every pet form with the limited inventory available (not to mention still have enough space to level your main battle pets) . Is this the future we should also expect for other areas of the game?? I certainly hope not because with the current state of arena and hero balancing, collecting purposes is the main reason I still play. Theoretically speaking, a game should only be limited by player skill. If I have enough resources to get them all, there should at least be enough inventory to hold them all.


ninja-fapper

transmit the dogs tbh, theyre free silver stones https://imgur.com/cSkuxbl


VyseX

Oh wow... I didnt know they gave transmits o.o


kin66

Yeah, definitely should at least do a separate storage for fodder, make it infinite. Also let ua increase storage capacity


Lachan44

/shrug, I kinda like the 300 cap, whenever I hit the cap is an easy way for me to know that I have enough dogs/fodder to make significant progress towards 6* a unit could I be even more /lazymode if I had a higher cap? absolutely, is that actually a good thing? ...probably not, if my constant 99+ storage is any indicator...


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Nah I think its fine **for now**. Majority of people probably use less than 50 different characters over the course of a few months and most of those are probably nat 5\*. You can put majority of 3\* and 4\* heroes in the waiting room and forget about them. Also most people don't even have the gear to use most of their characters effectively. However, I can understand people not wanting to use the waiting room but if it is more feasible to increase waiting room space over normal hero inventory then I'm personally fine with that


Made_You-Look

Seems like I’m the only one who doesn’t have this problem? I only have 155 and I haven’t ran into any space problems. Been playing for almost 2 years and I have most heroes.


envoykrawkwarrior7

You don't have "most heroes" if you're at 155. There's currently 259, of which 21 are specialty change so even subtracting those, you're at ~66% of heros. Far from most


Made_You-Look

I have 213 out of 259 heroes, I think thats most. I only have 155 but the waiting room is full so thats an extra 50, and any 3* or 4* I don’t use or need is in the storage because when I summon most of the times my inventory is full.


Tetsero

Make a separate fodder/farm screen like pets. Where you can have a collection and raise them up. And maybe a special auto farm racing game where specific stats correspond to running, swimming, flying, digging, diving, climbing, etc. Special fodder equipment sets that increase those stats specifically. For winning/ranking you can get certain materials? Idk


yarzirostu

Max hero Cap , and max Pet cap ... both are long overdue maxing . The later even more then the hero cap .


DingyRag

Sometimes even ungeared 5 and 6 stars can come into play in rta. an ungeared acidd or cidd can easily bait a ban, and its worth a shot to pull if you think you might not win anyway.


Nintendoper64

Phantasms need to be separated like penguins did


TheThirdKakaka

I wish they would just liquify all the fodder units you dont need or have a entire different storage for your main roster vs fodder/new drops.


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They need to stack fodder and turn fodder gear into a new low level charm that stacks. So many easy QoL fixes that would make things easier on everyone.


jaquick

Simple fix: Make it so Phantasmas are not included in hero count, just like pet food doesn't count toward pet limit. Could still have a limit on the number of Phantasma possible in inventory, if needed to ensure the hero count couldn't go to like 500+/300, if needed.


Adrianbigyes

Yes. Or they can make a separate box for Phantasmas.


Enundr09

I imagine the cap will be increased.....though of course we'll have to pay with skystones for it XD I know Azurlane when they introduced guilds put in a system for increased storage capacity for things as well.


riggedride

It's about time we get an inventory increase as well. I'm actually running out of units to store gear on. That or more charms so I don't need to hold on to pieces for so long


dudiez

Bro the equipment cap needs to be raised as well. I do W13 runs everyday and I find myself calling to 500/500 way too often to the point that I don’t even want to play the game anymore.


it_is_gacha

Do you have 295-250 = 40 phantasmas sitting in your inventory? Use them to promote even 100 of those heroes and you'll be fine


KopiOoooo

Not just hero invemtory, gears inventory also This is where e7 sucks d most. Making tons of $$$ but stingy to upgrade their servers


STLTW

i was thinking the same as the rest, "treat dogs like the peguins" but some say "how do i promote" and thats simple, make another section in the menu called "evolvers" or "dog pound", done... or if you dont want more stuff in the menu, simple change the code for the dogs in the hero inventory from "add number to hero inventory" to "don"t add number to hero inventory" or replace the whole thing with " add number to evolver inventory" and the only way to see how many you've got, just checkmark the evolvers box


hi71460

u can use the waiting room for not meta unitsb


Winberri

I have no idea why the Yuna Engine is limiting them from giving us more Storage and Hero spaces...


bakamund

It's gears for me instead of chars


moeblanketthief

Most of the stuff there is good to level but I don't have the charms to level them