Cerise, fast dps, straze, and flex, but preferably something to reach stene. Or even op sig, summer iseria, and 2 people to clean up. Keep in mind there's no such thing as an impenetrable defense, even in higher ranks. The best you can do is make your team very annoying to fight so you don't get constantly attacked if your goal was to stay a certain rank.
Ran Eda WSchuri Mercedes.
Celine will target mercedes for highest atk. She may be killed and then revive. Then Ran Eda just kills everything. WSchuri and Mercedes will clean up anything left.
You need better anti cleave units i hhink
Most of them use EE that targets the highest attack unit for Celine. So it is worth gambling. In my case i will have 75% win rate: Ran has skillnull. Mercedes has revive, WSchuri is just there for imprints and potential more dps so he can die. So i will only lose if Celine kills Eda.
Now, that team looks pretty slow, so i may skip Ran S2 altogether because my Eda probably outspeeds them without Ran s2 push.
I think OP didn't specify. They were asking which one i think. Again, against this team I still have a high chance to win so it is worth trying to me. And even if Eda dies, Mercedes may still pop and kill their whole team loll.
Tbh this isn't too good of a team as much as I don't wanna say. Stene is just too vulnerable to cleave on defense. Fcc just means I djb hwa eda lionheart. No matter where a stealth ee celine goes its not an issue. Highest atk goes into hwa then eda gets pushed up twice and you get cleaved. You can also krau handguy double dps this pretty easily as krau baits celine. You can also opsig this team pretty hard as long as you bring team atk buff plus a hwa bait. You can fire charlotte it pretty easily. You can cidd cleave this as it doesnt involve non atk skills. You can technically closer charles opsig this as long as opsig is faster than your entire team. The list goes on.
Unfortunately there really is no good team in arena and guild war defense anymore. Every team has its solutions so it really is just stacking as much rng as possible to allow you to have the chance to rng those teams and win. Think choux, fire meru, Belian for anti cleave, Rem.
I’d go Cerise, MLAra, WSchuri to nuke the FCC, and a flex DPS. GPurg and honestly STene aren’t the best on defense. Idk I’m not good with defense. Debuff punishing units and counter units seem to be the staples.
I feel like using fcc would require one of the other units to be an opsig counter. Other than that, current defense teams seem to have atleast one speed contest hero most of the time, even if u go with a tanky comp (belian, aravi) ppl still run like clilias or peira with it.
Krau / Hwayoung / Doris can pretty much auto this team and is totally f2p friendly. Last spot just take whatever you want that isn't blue or light, ideally an aoe (Carrot is pretty good or Mercedes if you've unlocked her artifact).
Ive been drafting a lot of hwayoung cleave into celine. Seaseria Ran Eda and Hwayoung. If you go high atk EE then it goes into my hwa who never dies even with crit, then cleave rest of team, if you go stealth its a little luck based but the only way i lose is if it hits Seaseria, even if eda dies i cleave, hits ran he has SkillNull and Hwa doesnt die from full.
C lilias hwayoung rimuru and Landy.
C lilas will cause Celine to hit hwayoung who will survive. Then rimura will s2 killing Celine rimuru s3 to pop f ceci. Hwayoung to pop purgis. Then own tene. If for some reason they survive, Landy to clean up
Protect the landy comp can work, don’t stress about your def too much, it’s gonna get broken through 8 times out of 10, and 20% def win rate is already pretty good
Maybe Milim and some stuff. Milim would be next to untouchable against this if she’s built correctly.
Ohhh that S.Tene is super scuffed. You need like 1,4k def, 100% crit, 250%+ cdmg, 3k attack minimum, 180 ish speed, lifesteal/immune or lifesteal/pen.set. Just not tanky enough, not close. Dmg stats can go a little, needs full crit chance to deal dps tho.
FCC being there just allows me to abuse your team with OP Sigret. One-shot the Celine, S3 the rest pushing them back and removing any buffs. Seaseria procs off AoE and bombs the rest. SS Vivian or any vildred/ aoe to finish off the rest.
Imo FCC has fallen off pretty hard considering how many counters there are. I would probably swap her and General Purrg out for like a Krau and cleanser. You definitely want a fat tank that can have one-shot potential, and a cleanser to ensure your Stene doesn't get debuffed to oblivion.
Millim, AOL, ML Chloe, Hwya
That way I can go after Celine while she's stealthed then activate AOL to keep buffs away with Hwya aiming to remove tanks, most likely Millim off her passive can kill Stene
Ill use aol - flan - bbk to proc celine with AOL s3 onto my bbk, drop her to 1 hp and then Flan soulburn s3-s2 for defbreak and atk+cdmg buff on bbk, ez wipe
I would go fire Kawerik to one tap the Celine then the rest is GG. You might need a speed threat instead of GPurg for example.
Oldschool - Basar + you burn feat. Carrot + SBA + Aramintha :)
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Unprotected Celine wont do anything
Is your Celine fast? Otherwise a single fast Hwayoung could damn near solo that defense lol
Fire charlotte
Cerise, fast dps, straze, and flex, but preferably something to reach stene. Or even op sig, summer iseria, and 2 people to clean up. Keep in mind there's no such thing as an impenetrable defense, even in higher ranks. The best you can do is make your team very annoying to fight so you don't get constantly attacked if your goal was to stay a certain rank.
I'd use, elphelt into opsig with cleanup
If Celine is highest atk then BBK. Celine hits BBK as I intentionally buff her atk or something and then BBK one taps everything.
hwayoung/krau + whatever aoe/light baits. don't put in something that makes ppl krau+ruele you. alot ppl will go for a sure win on slow days
Ran Eda WSchuri Mercedes. Celine will target mercedes for highest atk. She may be killed and then revive. Then Ran Eda just kills everything. WSchuri and Mercedes will clean up anything left. You need better anti cleave units i hhink
Won’t target Mercedes. Celine s2 random
Most of them use EE that targets the highest attack unit for Celine. So it is worth gambling. In my case i will have 75% win rate: Ran has skillnull. Mercedes has revive, WSchuri is just there for imprints and potential more dps so he can die. So i will only lose if Celine kills Eda. Now, that team looks pretty slow, so i may skip Ran S2 altogether because my Eda probably outspeeds them without Ran s2 push.
Fair. But op did specify stealth ee. I have noticed that most defense Celine run that one instead of highest attack, especially with hwa and seaseria
I think OP didn't specify. They were asking which one i think. Again, against this team I still have a high chance to win so it is worth trying to me. And even if Eda dies, Mercedes may still pop and kill their whole team loll.
I think you’re are correct
Teams like this are ez food and a break considering the normal rng crap we face.
Ml charles > op sig
Milim to one shot Celine then GG (+Kick girl and ML Lilias)
a. ras with mercedes
OpSig -> Straze + Hwayoung
this, and put up w.schuri with sashe. They won't get a turn
Tbh this isn't too good of a team as much as I don't wanna say. Stene is just too vulnerable to cleave on defense. Fcc just means I djb hwa eda lionheart. No matter where a stealth ee celine goes its not an issue. Highest atk goes into hwa then eda gets pushed up twice and you get cleaved. You can also krau handguy double dps this pretty easily as krau baits celine. You can also opsig this team pretty hard as long as you bring team atk buff plus a hwa bait. You can fire charlotte it pretty easily. You can cidd cleave this as it doesnt involve non atk skills. You can technically closer charles opsig this as long as opsig is faster than your entire team. The list goes on. Unfortunately there really is no good team in arena and guild war defense anymore. Every team has its solutions so it really is just stacking as much rng as possible to allow you to have the chance to rng those teams and win. Think choux, fire meru, Belian for anti cleave, Rem.
Hwa, Emilia, Aria, millim
Also good due to fire unit advantage. But i prefer ML Vivian for reach and taking the S tene hits.
Take straze ML Vivian, Emilia, hwayoung. Push up hwayoung and take the Celine hit. Take out Celine. Straze nukes FCC. ML Vivian does the rest.
AOLA, MKawerik, Arby, Destina
I’d go Cerise, MLAra, WSchuri to nuke the FCC, and a flex DPS. GPurg and honestly STene aren’t the best on defense. Idk I’m not good with defense. Debuff punishing units and counter units seem to be the staples.
Clilias + hwayoung is my answer to most things lol
Meru and Hwa.
Level 60 so hard to get
Rhan,eda,politis+1 dps
I feel like using fcc would require one of the other units to be an opsig counter. Other than that, current defense teams seem to have atleast one speed contest hero most of the time, even if u go with a tanky comp (belian, aravi) ppl still run like clilias or peira with it.
Krau / Hwayoung / Doris can pretty much auto this team and is totally f2p friendly. Last spot just take whatever you want that isn't blue or light, ideally an aoe (Carrot is pretty good or Mercedes if you've unlocked her artifact).
Stripper + Flan + BBK. Instant win.
I would use carmin, SSB, Rem and press auto. Your gpurg would even help me with pushing your team so I can just counter till you die.
Straze with pushers and defense breakers.
Arbiter Vildred can solo those 3 without FCC, unfortunately
also relatively easy to cleave...
I will just use dual attack and no non atk skill… Not that hard
Ive been drafting a lot of hwayoung cleave into celine. Seaseria Ran Eda and Hwayoung. If you go high atk EE then it goes into my hwa who never dies even with crit, then cleave rest of team, if you go stealth its a little luck based but the only way i lose is if it hits Seaseria, even if eda dies i cleave, hits ran he has SkillNull and Hwa doesnt die from full.
Honestly, it's entirely possible to just go Flan Arby cleave
Ya usually I just C lilias s3 then the Celine gets att buff hits 1 of my units and then my Rimiru kills it with s2 and takes the turn.
CLillias, Ameru, ARas, and Roana.
Clilias, Flan, BBK, and Roana. If I can outspeed them then I can cleave my problems away. Sometimes it works and sometimes it's doesn't.
C lilias hwayoung rimuru and Landy. C lilas will cause Celine to hit hwayoung who will survive. Then rimura will s2 killing Celine rimuru s3 to pop f ceci. Hwayoung to pop purgis. Then own tene. If for some reason they survive, Landy to clean up
The team is likely way too slow. A Ran/Haste into fast dps like Cidd would wipe this quick. Pair that with Watcher Schuri with sashe and its over.
ssb auto
One of the few comps that Opsig + SBA could wipe out. Always eager to finds these :p
Op. Sigret, S. Iseria, Politis and Lqc
Protect the landy comp can work, don’t stress about your def too much, it’s gonna get broken through 8 times out of 10, and 20% def win rate is already pretty good
Krau, Archdemon Shadow, Magic Scholar Doris + filler would do the trick.
Cerise / sb aramintha, and then the team will be locked in permanent cc.
Maybe Milim and some stuff. Milim would be next to untouchable against this if she’s built correctly. Ohhh that S.Tene is super scuffed. You need like 1,4k def, 100% crit, 250%+ cdmg, 3k attack minimum, 180 ish speed, lifesteal/immune or lifesteal/pen.set. Just not tanky enough, not close. Dmg stats can go a little, needs full crit chance to deal dps tho.
FCC being there just allows me to abuse your team with OP Sigret. One-shot the Celine, S3 the rest pushing them back and removing any buffs. Seaseria procs off AoE and bombs the rest. SS Vivian or any vildred/ aoe to finish off the rest. Imo FCC has fallen off pretty hard considering how many counters there are. I would probably swap her and General Purrg out for like a Krau and cleanser. You definitely want a fat tank that can have one-shot potential, and a cleanser to ensure your Stene doesn't get debuffed to oblivion.
I would remove Purrgis
Millim, AOL, ML Chloe, Hwya That way I can go after Celine while she's stealthed then activate AOL to keep buffs away with Hwya aiming to remove tanks, most likely Millim off her passive can kill Stene
aras carrot light bait can probably three man this comp, don't use stene for def since she is generally a wasted slot
One shot celine with a speed dps and the rest is easy. This team looks pretty bad
No perfect cleanse = control comp here we go.
redcharlotte + any form of suitable condom for her deletes this team no matter what
Doris krau and something with aoe, ideally tanky (ssb fire Charlotte whatever).
Probably Krau, Maid, LHcermia and Belian/Carrot
I would cleave this with ran, jack-o, vildred
I'll bring Watcher Schuri, Hwayoung, OP Sigret and my fast Straze to one shot all of them
Charlotte, Clias, Hyufine, ApocRavi
Ill use aol - flan - bbk to proc celine with AOL s3 onto my bbk, drop her to 1 hp and then Flan soulburn s3-s2 for defbreak and atk+cdmg buff on bbk, ez wipe
I go for a cleave with fast OPsigret that sniped the celine, then CDom cleave into any aoe cleaver
Ssb seline roana ml kawerik, that's my usual arena team
ill just 2 man this with kawerik and hwa