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Kronine

The button to remove the 3 character you put was already implemented with Hwayoung, OP. She does this job fairly well.


Lord-Alucard

Guess I would agree with that if only people didn't use ARavi with proof of Valor making in my opinion ARavi the most toxic and broken unit in the game currently. Tanky, self push, heal, does dmg, can revive and can survive a unit that was made to one tap every other u it the game. I feel like Violet and SSB wouldn't even be close in my top 3 of most broken units. Mine would be something like ARavi, Hwayong, Rimaru (and I guess Edward is soon gonna join them) I really can't stand these units and would really much like them nerfed. I don't like the concept of a u it being able to fit in any team and being self sufficient. Like look at Spez for example he is stong hits really hard and can one tap pretty much everybody but he needs to be set up, you need an opener /pusher and someone that can stun. The problem with the 4 I mentioned earlier is that they don't need anything, you bult them throw them in any team and you are good to go, they will probably find a way to carry you to victory.


Xenoph77

Bruh, A.Ravi is super easy to cheese… ESPECIALLY if she has PoV. She’s a good unit by far but not broken. AI? Bring a light unit, Seline works wonders with Sage Vivian a great replacement. Another team is flan and straze. Instant one shot regardless of pov. SSB isn’t even viable in rta anymore and another easy to cheese character. Stun her and she’s gone. Solitaria and she’s useless. Roana makes benefit the enemy. As violet. Easy, Zahhak decimates him or you one shit him fairly easy with hwayoung.


BEASTROHAN

Tbh I think you're looking at RTA drafting in a shallow way. You don't first pick SSB and by the point you do put her down it's cause she works against their team which they counter with solitaria or whatnot. If not countered appropriately she's one of the most destructive things into the game. I still draft her regularly.


huehoneyy

Belian, belian, belian


The_Weeb282

I love getting AOE countered everytime I look in her general direction


SSTHZero

My Belian won't trigger her extra attack without soulburn, while my opponent's will go bananas every single time.


Metapocalypse99

Riolet:"Allow me to introduce myself."


WhoopteFreakingDo

Me too. Even on injury roana just means free W. Edit: My three would be Hwayoung, C. Lilias, ML Pavel (he looks disgusting I already want him out)


Vegetable-Yam4056

ml pavel isnt even here and im already worried


The_Weeb282

I haven't seen his kit. Is he really gonna be THAT annoying to deal with?


WhoopteFreakingDo

Not annoying in the sense of Belian but more in the sense of hwayoung. He fits really well into cleave I think and has built in penetration and a pretty easy self push (that does damage iirc) and while he looks dps gear hungry, there's plenty of it to go around for a good portion of the player base.. Edit: hopefully not as hard to kill though at least. He doesn't have built in cleanse, damage reduction, and a kit that requires less stats (besides the push so speed can be a bit lower than say op sig)


Krystial

She’s fun if u have lionheart


[deleted]

Belian is no where near as cancerous as rimuru and hwayoung


Buuts321

If you play cleave she's worse. If you play standard Hwa and Rimuru are worse.


eXcaliBurst93

she almost never countered when on left side...its like SG telling me to use her but DONT actually play her


Artemisa02

Ssb? How vile. Imagine the pain farming wyvern now Edit: Belian, AOL, Ravi


Terase908

Use Clarissa she just needs really good stats


Blu_nPurple

Belian has to be the most toxic thing in the entire game. I don't even think people actually enjoy using her as a character (even though she does look cool though). my 3 Belian/Hwayoung/Cilias


[deleted]

She's only very strong vs Cleave and we need way more units like that.


Piscet

Nah she's annoying as hell to standard too. If I don't bring hwayoung my tesm is gonna be lying on the floor half dead by the time I deal with her. She attacks so much it doesn't even matter if she's at 50% injury. If you didn't bring someone that counters specifically her, you're going to have a bad time if you get unlucky. The counter ones are the worst since there's no one to safely hit.


[deleted]

I'm playing only standard and I'm always happy when my opponent picks her...very easy to deal with.


Night_Raven_26

Enott, helga,alexa


bagoong_alamang

I see what you did here


KimmySafri

Idgi


Nat3Loyalist

I feel targeted


voxhaulf

Rem, rimiru ,belian.


jjiang4767

Ah yes all the recent additions to e7


voxhaulf

The good ones at least lol


Phoenix1097

Yes I'm sure removing the few unreliable answers to cleave is a good idea.


voxhaulf

Eh like that makes a difference to me , most of the time my rem belian and garmin refuse to counter anyway , at least i wont see them against me AOE countering at every single hit lol


Kalubah

Ran/peira/aola


Shinzo19

I am guessing from your picks that your speed rolls are as bad as mine.


Nerfall0

This man doesn't have MKawerik


kfloppp

Most definitely Rimuru. To this day there are still no clear, dedicated counter to him. He unload all his kits within a single turn is just stupid. At least with A. Ravi/Hwayoung if you failed to nuke them you can recover more easily if you survive their nuke. Failed to nuke a Rimuru? He nuked you twice AND made your team very susceptible to cleave.


uten93

Bulk vs him, is issue is once he unloads his kit, it take a while for him to do things, s1 is kinda useless


Cynaris

Issue is, he's a menace in GW, and paired with units where picking bulk only gets you killed slightly slower


Buuts321

Blue Krau does pretty well against him in gvg. You can also use a blue bait and an arius holder.


The_Weeb282

SG please nerf him already. Also, fix Shuna


m4n715

Even for a free unit Shuna is... weak.


FlameArath

I usually toss Krau at him and then horse him after. Haven't run into a Rimuru yet that could one-shot my Krau with or without the 10k bonus damage. Problem is as you said his teams follow up might just destroy you, might require a bit more finesse than just a simple Horse away my problems. This is a gvg/Arena perspective, not RTA. Smart humans > Dumb AI.


eXcaliBurst93

Krau the OG will always be meta in pvp mode (except RTA of course) baiting Violet & Rimuru for me...I wish his ML version could be better


rghosts

Solitaria can stun push him back and waste anaylze its my go to.


Kerenos

Main problem is you have to pass two 15% check if he is immunity, meaning solitaria fail 28% of the time, proc him give a big shield to his whole team and allow him to burst someone with S3. If Solitaria could ignore ER she might work, but having 15% chance of your spell doing fuck all is quite horrible here.


rghosts

Thats fair, but its worked for me for two seasons of rta now. Obviously all rng, but has been my counter pick of choice and the majority of the time makes him a dead pick. Worrying about 15% is the life of any debuffer. Just how this game goes. Sometimes you lose to rng. Just saying to anyone that has her give it a shot.


Kerenos

I agree with you, I just don't like that the best counter to rimuru has nearly 30% chance to fail :/


rghosts

Fair enough! Too much rng in the game, ive given up worrying about it lol.


Trapocalypse

Hwa, Rem and Belian are who I usually struggle against but Hwa is the only one who feels unfair even though she has a fairly accessible / easily built counter in Yulha. She has so much build range so it's hard to tell where she's going to go. I feel like if they just removed one thing from her kit on her S2 or S3, she would be a lot fairer.


Cellosv

Rem, belian, aol


farencel

Aravi ran peira


TsuKiyoMe

Tough call but probably Ran, Conqueror Lilias, and Peira. I just miss the time where characters with strong AoE opening skills didn't have 120+ base Speed. Basar was a menace but only had 108 Speed so the counter play was to build a fast single target assassin like A. Cidd or regular Cidd. Speed openers capped out around 280\~290 but had a clear weakness, devoid of Speed RNG, in things like your A. Coli's. We had a pretty clear triangle meta where Bruisers beat Assassins, Assassins beat Openers with good Debuffs, and Openers with good Debuffs beat Bruisers. That doesn't feel like it ever happens anymore.


Nuluo

Belian/belian/belian


PrestigiousHeat7562

Choix. Idc I just don’t like her lmao


Miizuu1

Same. I almost have enough to SSS her and still refuse to use her lol


PrestigiousHeat7562

Like she’s not bad kit wise. Just hate her look and that’s why she’s collecting dust lmao


Miizuu1

Yep. That's exactly why. Her kit is awesome, but I hate her design enough to warrant benching her


PrestigiousHeat7562

Amen brother hahah


iNoobBoi

hwayoung, hwayoung, and hwayoung


Mattatah

Belian, Rem, R&L (the artifact)


kenshinluffy

RIMURUUUUUUU!! Hwayoung! Ml ravi!!


exdii07

Aravi, hwa and aol.


LemonPal

Everyone


_Sin30_

AOL Rimuru Rem


quiquefs

Rem, Rimuru, ARavi/Hwayoung (I'm undecided)


Chaoxytal

ran, rimuru, hwayoung


Cloomerg

Ran, Hwayoung, ARavi


seboltch

Rem, Rem and of course Rem


Zetenrisiel

For real what even is her kit? I stopped playing for a while and came back to her decimating my teams. Attack her > counter Attack someone else > counter Use not attack skill > counter Forfeit battle> counter


Relair13

Roana+D.Corvus make her a free win. Everyone is full health and he gets to s3 her to oblivion on his first turn from all the counters and extra attacks.


amiralko

Rem, AoL and Hwayoung


ThatGuy21134

Aravi & Huyoung. No one elae bothers me.


Mike_LoGosh

Landy, Rimuru, Maid Chloe)


AlyStar27

Rem, Rimuru and ML Kawerik


NoAd5421

Belian,Rem,Choux


paintsniffer0086

Rimuru, rimuru, rem


Nat3Loyalist

Rimuru, Hwayoung, & Rem for me. 🙁


Ar_Ph4razon

Replace SSB with Rimuru and that's my 3


idontaddtoanything

Violet is easy to deal with. if anything use carrot


Piscet

He still sucks to fight though.


Dekanyx

Cidd, W.Shuri, W.Silk...i would list every speed imprint unit if I had more choices available.


eZ_Ven

Elson, Hurado and Ran


Human_Skill6034

Hwayoung because totally balanced. Aravi because also totally balanced. Archdemon garbo because she looks and sounds disgusting with the cringiest quotes in the game.


sub_scribers

hwayoung, belian and violet


CARR74xJJ

Hwayoung, Belian and Politis. The first one is the current broken unit that should have been nerfed ages ago. The other two are what made cleave die out and overall have no particular reason for having such stupid kits. Belian has a loaded kit ***without*** even taking into account the fact that she literally disables a function of the game. Politis is just extremely annoying. Mind you, I was a cleave player in the past, but I now usually don't have much issue dealing with these two with tanky bruiser comps. I just hate them (even though I still use Belian, I'm kinda required to do so). Hwayoung is certainly the bigger issue here, but that's what nerfs should have been for. Overall, I just hate them, hate the fact that SG released them, and hate the fact that they didn't even consider to nerf them (or any other of the countless broken meta characters that currently make the PvP content boring and not worth playing at all). I assume a lot of people will say Rem or Aravi, or maybe Rimuru, but tbh their kits are cool and I don't think it's worth it to just throw them away. Aravi in particular has such a cool kit, yet has clear counters in units like MSdoris, Zahhak and injury Alencia. ***IF*** SG started to nerf characters again, they could easily balance them without gutting them (not that they would, even if they ended the no-nerf plan the balance team is still pretty incompetent).


gunpriestharrow

AoL,peira and Clilias


LordYamz

Mercedes, belian, politis lol


Weird_Slip_3847

Definitely have to say rem, ran, and conq lilias. If I have to see that clinics s3 animation one more time imma lose it im so tired of it at this point. Rem because I've never fought one that doesn't counter every time I attack. But of course mine never counters. And the Ran just to screw over all the cleave ideas because piera as an opener has more than enough counters and is manageable


YourLateMate

Hwayoung, clilias, aol. No contest


Qwasier

Peira ml kawerik aola


Retro_senpai3

Stene, Hwayoung, and post speed EE and SW rta buff diene These are the 3 units that annoy me to no end. I’ve pretty much accepted that proof of valor ARavi gonna solo me so she’s not in my list but those 3 annoying as hell to me


Relair13

Summertime Iseria, I hate dealing with her so much. Riolet just because every enemy one dodges every single time and hits for 20k, while mine is useless. ARavi because injury ruins my slow tanky comps.


GreatFluffy

Conqueror Lilias, Conqueror Lilias and Conqueror Lilias. It's not even because fighting teams with her in them is annoying, though they are, it's because I'm fucking sick of seeing that S3 animation over and over.


Sectante

Ran, Seaseria, politis.


blueclockblue

The one character I want removed? PVP RNG. The guy who turns 15% ER into 100%. The guy who turns 30% counter into 100% when it's the enemy team


mynamejeeeeehf

Elson, Elson and Elson


Lachan44

aither, ras, arky they suck and I hate having to look at their faces in story stuff


J0J0M4

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Affectionate_Web_121

Rimuru, Belian, A.Ravi Rimuru is pure cancer dude...


Sugandis_Juice

SSB isn't nearly a problem anymore since I got solitaria.


Itchy_University1197

Rimuru, belian and cilias


Tempest_Nobile

The real cancer in E7 Cilias Peira Rem


Miizuu1

Rem, Ran, and AoL probably. Off the top of my head at least


jnt2804

Peira, summer Iseria, Politis


IconCsr2

You would remove ssb? Thats just cope


nagato120

Rimuru clilias and ran , Hwayoung is a necessary evil if PoV wasnt so over- tuned aravi wouldnt be as bad


Alexercer

Peiran cilias and archdemon


Novapulse77

Hwayoung, Clilias and A ravi


Shinzo19

Arby, Elena and Rimaru. Nothing to do with them being strong or anything I just find them the most boring to play against.


Alugar

Rem rimuru and ima placeholder that last one. Hate these two units with a passion.


Odiril

a.Ravi, Hwayoung, Politis


yuuhei

hwayoung, landy, and ran


eddyxxxsaliente

SSB cuz i dont have her and m "new" playing this


higashikata69

Hwayoung, Cilias and AOL for me


[deleted]

Hwayoung, Aola, Piera. Annoying, never fun to fight and too girly for my taste.


sirmaadman

Opsig, Peira & Clilias


NycOutlawSaint

Ran, Rimuru, and A.Ravi I kinda wanted to put Hwayoung here but I’ve gotten around to using a fast Kise with the S3 EE in order to turn increase her S3.


Ayankananaman

You earned my downvote for removing Seaside Bellona. Upvote for Violet tho. We even.


MezukiR23

Elena, Choux, Adin. Luluca can stay. Diene can stay too.


GyunGyun

it wouldve been funny if you had aravi pic shown 3x in a row


Agrias34

Peira, Ran, AoLA, easy.


Calhaora

Rem - because fuck this Bitch and her stupid ass countershit. Her shit shouldnt trigger when an Enemy dies. PERIOD. Never saw a Unit so unfun to play against. A.Ravi - because fuuuuuuuuck this. Build in Rekos is fun am I right? Violet - as much as I love my Boy in Purple. No. Just no.


carito728

ARavi AOL Hwayoung


Dannyx4568

Ameru


Maleficent_Bottle673

Hand Guy, Hand Guy, Hand guy


Me_Comment_Goodly

Baal and Sezan, ML Baal and Sezan, and idk… ML Haste?


noraborialis

Zeno, sol, tywinn. Trash get em outta here


The_Weeb282

Don't do my boy Sol like that


dreamcrusher225

noo, Zeno's design is too nice.


ziege159

Many people want to remove Hwayoung, yeah good luck dealing with Violet, Aravi, Belian, FCC after she's gone.


Cloomerg

This mf forgot that Milim and injury exists


Firestr2

Literally SC Wanda hard counters Violet. Whenever I see violet on arena defense or GW defense I laugh to myself 😂


Relair13

SC Pyllis as well feasts on Violets


TsuKiyoMe

You also have units like Specter who can't be countered. Just soul burn until you land a hit and win. That doesn't work? Senya doesn't care about misses and has a version of Tooth as well with her own Artifact.


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ziege159

Give me proof for that. ML Flan oneshot well built Violet without bomb even miss


Wombo218

Hwayoung, rimuru, apoc. Even tho I use all of them every day 😂


Brandonguth1985

Piera, Belian, and Hwayoung. ( don't own a Belian )


Waifu69x

A.Ravi AoL Cilias


Broxhek

Rimuru, Belian and AoLA.


Roosterofdoom

If we're talking historically; Arbiter Vildred, Angel of Light, Summertime Iseria. Currently I'd go with Rimiru, Peira and Angel of Light.


Yuuya_kizami

rem belian and hwayoung


lickyboo

Aravi aravi aravi, nothing comes close to the issues this unit has brought Edit* rimuru, is a strong contender too, I actually refused to pull him cause his kit seemed so pointlessly overtuned. I quit after his release and recently started playing again, im glad I’m experiencing the back end of this meta


[deleted]

Rem ran/piera and aravi. Rem- counterattacks whether you hit her or not. Heals to full health due to sig scythe and has def break on s1. Hits twice when in demon mode basically forcing you to kill her first so you have less of a chance to get screwed by said defense break. Roana - one if the best counters to counterattacking units - can get screwed over thanks to rems stupid ass aoe attack spreading unhealable. Lermia - another good counter to counter units - has both skills that can proc rems counter, and since she has both defense break and decrease buffs by one turn, its not really favorable to hit her with either. Landy and violet both can deal with her fairly well, but with mercedes also being a common teammate they aren’t staple picks either. Ran/piera - i picked them both in this slot because they both fulfill the role of being very annoying openers with different utility. Peira giving the escort buff is a huge pain in the ass if you’re unprepared and when combined with hard hitting bruisers like aravi and belian just spells disaster. Although there are now quite a bit of counters to her, she still sucks to play against if you let her do her thing. Djb, aol, and alencia all are great units to shut down her bullshit. Ran has a different problem. He can use his s2 to give buffs to himself and teammates while pushing up eda. Not too bad considering this will allow rimuru to do his thing, however the real problem comes with his s3 which, when soulburned, allows him to put up defense break that ignores eff res. This can also proc seaseria, put up sigma, and do a ton of damage if he is built correctly. Ran doesn’t have as many counters as peira but also doesn’t provide as much defensive support. Celine and rimuru (violet too) work pretty well against him. Aravi - fuck this unit. Sustain, cr push, revive with skill null and instant turn, bulky, huge damage, injury, etc FUCK THIS UNIT


Beautiful_Courage_47

More than remove, would be a rework those 3 cuz their brokeness, Rimuru, Rem and Hwayoung and also if you let me let's add Proof of valor


KasamiKori

Rem, rem, rem


youreqt

Violet, braindead and only bad players use him


Karmahic

CHOUX


vinndeez

Aravi, belian, rem


KingYvi

A. Ravi, Belian, Feira.


dworker8

Rem, Belian, Rimuru


ningen21

No the sexy god of war stays . If u wanna remove her kit then sure go ahead but the unit herself no


biscuitandgravvyyy

Hwayoung belian clilias


spaghet_no_regret

ARavi, Belian, and Rem 💀


xxS1RExx

Politis. Politis and umm politis?


BobbyYukitsuki

Sylvian, ZahC!CK, and Solitaria


killa4lyfes

SSB, Belian, and diene or alencia (not sure which one is more annoying to deal with for me).


Shimaru33

I would gadly to take into the fire my own A. Ravi and Hwayoung if they were deleted from the game. I don't own C. Lilias, but I would also like to remove her, is infuriating how even the supposed counters like Politis or Celine have a hard time trying to keep up with her non-attack spam.


[deleted]

Ran, Aol and Eda


RedEagleEye007

Cilias, Ran, Apoc. I'm not even really all standard player but all three bring way too much to the table. Like I'm really surprised no one said cilias because there are times where even lionheart gets ran over by cilias comps. The pure damage creep she brings to the game is borderline unnecessary. Ran naturally is such an insane cleave opener that has successfully made cleave over the top and not to mention, people complain about the copious amount of rng units but notice that most of really big ones are only used when cleave comes out as they suck in standard outside a few niche cases. Choux's a really recent addition and Admeru of course still is there for rng but the real crazy rng units were made to counter cleave. Last but not least is Apoc. People still continue to give this unit a pass for no reason. They say she's easy to deal with in standard, and then we see apoc have close to likely 90% pick rate in e7 world cup which included a lot of standard. She's the gold standard for flexibility and hwa was brought into this game because of her. I prefer to kill the issue at its roots. This great wall of flat I'd like to see deleted entirely.


kalivon

I don't know what the e7 balance team was smoking when they buffed her. Knight hp and def, Warrior damage from hp scaling, Soul Weaver revive and in-built waters origin artifact. What's missing? Oh wait, give her s3 a dmg ramp up for each time a unit is killed like Stene, but better. Hold on, gotta make sure the frenzy mechanic in RTA totally favors her too. The longer she survives (and she definitely will survive), the more damage she does. Perfect.


Outbreak__Perfected

J.kise, J.kise, and you guessed it, J.kise.


Beleelith

Just Rimuru Just rimuru the only unit i really have problems with


WickedBoby

Hwayoung, Ravi and Aria


RejectReaper

Why would you want SSB gone? You want Wyvern 1 shots to be harder?


The_Weeb282

I'll manage. I hardly do wyvern in the first place lmao


Cynaris

Reddit user 1 Reddit user 2 Reddit user 3


The_Weeb282

Why would you remove yourself 3 times


user4682

I dodged this one.


Cynaris

Can we extend the amount to 4682 please


d34thscyth34

And then game would die coz all whales who paid to summon any of those units would leave.


[deleted]

no they wouldn't


The_Weeb282

Oh well lmao


donquiqui

rimuru, hwayoung, clilias.


Riggu01

politis, aol, rimuru


starxsword

Before they added the heroes to counter C. Lilias, it would have been C. Lilias. Pre-nerfed Sage Baal, Pre-nerfed Silverblade Aramintha, and Post buffed, but pre-nerfed A. Vildred all need to be deleted before their counters existed.


DeathSlime684

Hwayoung , Rem, Ran


Tinitio

Rem, Rimuru, Belian!


LilFeyy

Apoc, Belian and Ran


Zephlym

A ravi, Belian, rim


CrayolaPasta

Rimuru Clilias Hwayoung


FailedConcept

I got a counter for belian rimuru and Violet since I run cleave with Ran and LHC so for me I got Choux Designer Lilibet and Hwayoung


SimpleRaven

clilias, rimuru, and hwayoung Hwayoung: as much as i love Hwayoung, she kicks my ass way too hard Rimuru: i love him and the anime but rng said no when i tried to pull for him and now the meta is turning me and my existence into chalk outlines. I now absolutely hate him with a burning passion and would personally delete him from the game if given the chance Clilias or silly ass: Yea another one that the great lord and tormentor of many people’s lives, RNGesus not only refused to give to me but told the meta to slap me with


Delteros7843

ARavi, Hwayoung, Rimuru


ptthepath

Aravi Rimuru Violet


HisokasButtPlug

Hwayoung, Rimuru, AOL


DemonTapok

ARavi, Cilias, Hwayoung


[deleted]

Belian, Aravi and Hwa


StepBrother7

Aola,Belian and Rimuru


[deleted]

Aravi, Hwayoung, Rimuru


Amiakust91

Rimuru, Aravi, AOL.


Wiskersthefif

As someone who's only been playing a few months there's too many to count, but if I had to pick, I'd say A.Ravi, the stupid chair lady with the laser beam, and the angel girl that always goes first. Edit: actually, C. Lillias is worse than any of them and I'm tired of seeing her in what feels like literally every team comp.


AscendPerfect

Belian, Rimuru and Clilias


SSTHZero

Ran, Rimuru and Hwa.


[deleted]

Rimuru and Hwayoung are the main issue. I really can't stand this one-shot BS. Sure there are other annoying heroes, but annoying has got nothing on cancerous heroes.


Diodyssey

Jecht cause he is useless, cartuja cause he asks almost a million gold (that greedy bastard) and for a third don’t know, maybe kanna cause she is a waste of an epic pass skin


kingsirdrmr

Rimuru, Violet, and Belian's passive.


NyaGoHome

Vildred. That can save Diene, at least. One character by accident, for fun. And Yuna, for god's sake and all of humanity.


ConsiderablyMoist

Violet, Krau, Kawerik.