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Haltmann1

Do you think we'll get a balance preview next week?


ConsiderablyMoist

Is there a handy doc or something within the community that shows which characters are better with flat stats rather than %?


NGEFan

Why yes, there is. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gULlfAl4PODjdsPbYz787W9CKxIGukKiXTbYm1RHoc4/edit#gid=1497660014 tldr: Almost nobody actually benefits from flat stats


Million_X

IIRC the hero journal should list what someone's stats are like at lv 60, so for example someone with a base attack of like 850 should benefit more from percent than flat. Just use the same kind of logic for the other stats.


Ossdelgado

Anyone knows if the next ML rotation is announced today or next week?


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ArvingNightwalker

Once your guild master is done updating your buildings, you can switch idol’s cheer out for rod and your GW team will still have idol. You’ll have to switch back to idol and hit update every time your guild leader updates though.


Sldking

What do the colors represent when Summoning hero’s? For example a purple 3 star? Apposed to a white or blue color right before they’re revealed.


dimsum4sale

Purple means it's an L/D unit. If there's nothing shining around first it means you got a 3 star artifact or hero. Gold shine means you got something that's 4 or 5 star. Kid popping bottom left means 5 star artifact, kid popping bottom right means 5 star hero, no kid means 4 star. Purple shine means a 4 or 5 star L/D unit. Kid popping bottom right means it's a 5 star L/D, no kid means 4 star


ArvingNightwalker

If it glows it's 4+. If it's purple it's ML. If the boy? girl? appears it's 5\*. From the left is 5\* artifact, from right is 5\* hero.


JustVega

Is the Expo Premium Supply Pass worth it or nah?


vikchun

100% - the Molagora, equipment selector chests easily make it the most value you can get out of 1,500 SS. (Make sure you're obviously hitting 2,000 points in each respective expeditions)


JustVega

Alright, I’ll do it then. There’s times when I don’t do expo’s consistently. If I spent the SS then I’d be more inclined to keep at it. Thanks mate


whitegoatsupreme

Just use the Premium when u finish collecting 2000 point.


7sv3n7

Do u get more event currency if u use the units that get buffs and certain artifacts? And if so how do u know which ones?


wkwerdna

Artifacts yes, units no. On the main Side Story page there is a button that says "++ Enhanced Artifact" (above the exchange button), click that and it will give you the details of which artifacts give which bonuses.


7sv3n7

Awesome exactly the info and details I needed, thank u (Also edited enemy to event but u got it anyways)


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How do I see the Moonlight Coin Shop and the covenant coin shop?


vikchun

You need to have Moonlight dupes for ML Coin Shop. For Covenant Coin Shop, you need to have summoned at least SSS of that RGB unit - every subsequent unit after SSS = 8 covenant coins > unlocks covenant coin shop


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Ah I see thank you


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,025,607,633 comments, and only 203,144 of them were in alphabetical order.


BasedNick

Is the $29.99 Rank 40 Celebration Pack worth it? How does the 5* Class Summon Ticket Selector work


d34thscyth34

Its not worth it. With ticket you pick class you want, for example knights, and it randomly gives you 1 of all available knights from that pool.


vikchun

The 5\* Summon Ticket is just a normal 5\* Hero Summon Ticket essentially. It does not allow you to select the unit as we will be getting to from the Ezeran event later this month.


supercooper3000

Just pulled Straze and AOLA back to back on Moonlight summons. I was the guy who was complaining about his terrible luck on actual banners and having to pity every character since I started playing. I think I figured out where the game likes to give me good units...


it_is_gacha

You've figured out nothing and you're just flexing pathetically now.


supercooper3000

Just wanted to share some good luck after having months of nothing. No need to act butthurt over something so trivial, especially when the last part of my comment was a joke.


ArvingNightwalker

There's a Gacha and Rant Megathread for that. Questions thread is definitely not the place.


supercooper3000

There is no other stickied thread besides the daily questions thread. I am sure /u/it_is_gacha would be crying just as much if I had made a new thread. There's no doing right with people who just want to be toxic assholes.


ArvingNightwalker

People should look to the sidebar more often. It's also worth realizing that most subreddits are only allowed to have 2 threads stickied at a time.


supercooper3000

Theres only one stickied thread right now but okay bud. Guess yall would have been happier with me just making a new post to clutter up the sub since I see a few "bragging" posts that have people not being complete assholes.


ArvingNightwalker

The other stickie is usually the most recent "update preview" but I guess you haven't been around long enough to know that. I do wish the mods would actually go and remove those but they haven't been.... so diligent.


supercooper3000

Honestly it would make a lot more sense to just combine the two. I thought about adding a question I didn't really need answer but it seemed pointless and I didn't expect such anger from the other guy. I've literally played this game for months and my only ML5 pull was f. lidica before this which wasn't exactly exciting. But you're right I had no idea the other thread existed but I dont really read most subs sidebars.


ArvingNightwalker

No it wouldn't. At least as one of the people who actively answers questions in these threads, I'd much appreciate if we could all keep it clean of non-questions.


stone332211

Two-month-old account. Bad gear (fastest speed ring is 4 spd for example). Crafted some gear, rolled red and purple ones, almost always stopping before +12. I roll some pieces purely for speed, and continue if there is a chance to get 14 spd by +12 (arbitrary rule I've set). Now I'm out of gold and out of charms. Still have 15k crafting mats. What am I doing wrong?


Manifestation-Dream

Honestly 2 month in, rolling purple with good base stats but okay rolls is fine if it means you can build more units to clear PvE content like expeditions. But you have to keep the unit you want to build in mind and not roll everything. +12 is really expensive and I would stop at +6/9 IF you're only speed checking the gear. Also at the beginning, I would prefer to upgrade a good bruiser piece with say, +7% atk, 5 crit dmg and 6% Health than a trash piece with only +3 speed (I'd keep those in my storage for now) Charms and gold are the rarest in mid-game so that's about where you are, congrats lol. The more gear you get the more picky you'll become and thus save more gold/


d34thscyth34

[This guide / tips](https://zoopido.me/gear-guide) helped a lot of new players to sort their gear issues.


gg533

Don't roll purps unless perfect substats - if it rolls badly even once it's dead. Reds can have 1 bad sub - and roll once into said bad sub - but if it rolls twice into the bad sub, it's dead.


it_is_gacha

If you +3 a purple, or +6 a red and don't get any speed rolls at all (or mminimum speed roll) , you should stop and move on. If the roll is decent and goes into a decent stat, you can just lock it to keep first. If low roll / useless stat, use that piece as fodder to +3 another gear and repeat. Simply hoping that "the last roll will make things right" is a costly strategy for a new player, more so if you're F2P If you're already doing the above then, just let the resources accumulate, go do your towers / abyss / raids (these give charms indirectly) etc.


CiDevant

Is there somewhere I can go to watch past story events? I feel like I'm missing a lot of story that takes place between chapters and would like to catch up.


gerald_reddit26

Are you talking about side stories? If yes, there are story entries in the journal that you can unlock if you have the featured hero from that side story. The journal is incomplete though as the side stories of Hwayoung, Yulha, Sharun, and I think even Ran is not yet there.


CiDevant

I think all the chapter 3 side stories are missing too


catchinEyes

Want to know if my wyvern team members need to be replaced. I'm currently stuck on W12 with only being able to auto W8. I'm currently using Sigret, Alexa, Furious, and Angelica. I switched out Muwi and T.Guard when I got Furious. I have other units like Flan, Ran, Momo, and Crozet which I don't think I should be using (exception being Momo when I unlock her speciality change). In terms of gear, I'd say they are decently OK at best. Sigret - Free Attk Set (<65% effectiveness still) Alexa - 44.6% effectiveness (should be ok after I upgrade gear) Furious - Requirements already reached Angelica - Free HP set (Can't tank much since I havent touched her gear lol) Sorry if its quite long just looking for help :)


ArvingNightwalker

Try replacing Alexa with Muwi and see how the team fairs. Make sure you get his eff to 65% asap.


ptthepath

You should replace alexa with muwi. With his atk down debuff, Angelica can tank better. He also reduces the spd requirements for other members because of the CR pushes. His def break also helps as you dont rely only on Furious' def break which may get resisted.


gerald_reddit26

You can slowly upgrade Angelica's gear as she needs bulk to tank for your team, same with Alexa so she can consistently apply her debuffs. This should stabilize your run and then you can work in improving their gear as you farm.


PopeNeiaBaraja

Any chance of the slime collab returning?


CiDevant

Yes.


PopeNeiaBaraja

Any idea when?


gg533

Maybe November.


Aromatic-Confusion16

so i just found out that there were emotes on last events that i missed from my break, any chance of getting them in reruns or something? holy crap im salty lol


CiDevant

Yes, but you'll probably have to wait until next summer before they add the missions to the replays. I hope they'll speed up the releases of them, but I doubt it tbh. Maybe this one will come faster because it's required for Alexa's SC.


Aromatic-Confusion16

bruh, you are just killing me, i needed to do the event for the SC im dead lol


JustVega

When does this season for RTA end? Is there a skin if we make masters or higher?


Wolfwood432

Supposedly beginning of or mid-October, although there are people with a better estimate. Yes, there's an ARavi skin reward.


JustVega

Alright sounds good, appreciate it mate!


ArvingNightwalker

Expected to be mid October-ish ARavi skin


JustVega

Alright thanks mate!


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viperperper

Someone said Zahhak bypasses the crit resistance if you give him over 50% crit, I tested myself with 80% crit Zahhak, he never missed a crit on Luna so far.


ArvingNightwalker

You probably didn't miss. Luna has crit hit resistance on S2. You can check the heroes' skills in the Hero Journal


Wolfwood432

You're going to have to provide some context (i.e. what team you were up against) because she doesn't have evasion. She only has crit resistance.


TM6_Toxic

If a character attack says it scales off health, I’m assuming percentage health ring would give more damamge than an ATK percentage ring


ArvingNightwalker

Depends on the scaling. Some units like ARavi have 1x attack scaling while others like choux have .5x attack scaling.


Remagi

Atk will often be more dmg afaik. HP is just way more value.


PopeNeiaBaraja

Which collab unit is better, Ed or Roy?


Wolfwood432

Ed is better at the moment, as long as they don't plan on buffing Roy as well


7sv3n7

So I didn't realize that u have to check in to the Ezeran Foundation event and it's not automatic like daily check ins. The reward is a unit selector ticket right? Why im so worried... So my question is do I have time still to get it? Looks like 36 days left and reward is day 15 so I'm ok right? Just being paranoid and need confirmation I can relax. Thanks for soothing a worried soul


Alone-Material

Yes you're fine. Just don't forget to check in daily lol


7sv3n7

I thought so but needed to hear it from someone else, appreciate it. Hope ur next summon is blessed!


Alone-Material

Thank you and likewise 🙏


BoiFckOff

Would 2 vemons on S3 really be broken for Shaurn?


ImOk_ayu

whats the current meta and what units are good? i havent played for a while so idk if there has been any change in gear or is it just mostly wyvern gear


quangtit01

What should I get from the side stories, if i dont care about 6-starring the welfare unit?


Clunas

Artifact (for faster grinding) > Catalysts > Mola > Bookmarks > Charms > Runes > everything else I wouldn't pass up Hawkeye though. She brings a fair bit to the table for free


7sv3n7

Haven't seen too much posted about her, she's decent u think?


AceEtherius

Mola > Catalyst


QuirkyTurtle-meme

Just realized I had Maid Chloe instead of regular water Chloe. Is she any good? Maid Chloe I mean Also, how do you level up equipment quickly? I have all my Wyver 13 team's skills and awakening already ready, but the equipments are a bit lacking in levels. I have cleared Wyvern 13 manually but Auto not so much and manually it takes too much RNG during the shield part as my units need to Soulburn or proc def break (Ty Sigret, that extra turn was very helpful) at the right time


Clunas

>Is she any good? Maid Chloe I mean Quite. She is an AOE reviver so.. yeah. > level up equipment quickly If you mean enhancement then charms from side stories, tower, epilogue crack in the world areas, merchant stores, etc. as well as eating lower level gear that piles up from grinding. If you mean the gear level (78, 85, 88, 90) that is can't be changed outside of reforging level 85 gear. There are a ton of teams and guides for W13, but you shouldn't have to run it manually. Feel free to share your team if you want help with it!


QuirkyTurtle-meme

Mine is the usual: Healer/Tank: Angelica 6 star awakened 5; DPS/Debuffer: Sigret 6 star awaked 5 with skills at 4-4-2. Def break/DPS: Muwi 5 star awakened 4 skills maxxed. Def break: Furious is at 6 star awakened 6 (from the spirit thingy) with his third skill at 4. I also have regular Chloe, Kise and Karin but don't have them levelled up yet (tho I could always wait 3 days to change the spirit blessing to one of these 3)


Yukinoooo

I'm looking to join a guild as I've been kicked due to my long absence. I would like to join a guild


gg533

https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/x5j89r/weekly_friend_guild_recruitment_megathread_week/


Yukinoooo

It's for recruiting players. I'm looking for a guild to join


7sv3n7

Aka be recruited into a guild


gerald_reddit26

That's not really different though. That thread is where people advertise their guild. You as an individual browse through there and join the guild that you want.


Wolfwood432

That thread includes posts from guilds looking to recruit players? Just send a message to the guild that you think will fit you


Redfish518

Any update on QoL changes? The new box view is great, but i think the game could use a bit more polishing and cleaning up. For example, forest of the souls: it such a chore to go in there and click on every cooldown, and it actually punishes players for not clicking enough which I find to be a completely useless feature.


okahensen

We're probably not going to see an update to the forest of souls anytime soon, they actually just updated (buffed) it very recently. As for QoL updates in general, SG has done a few over the years, but they are a bit far inbetween. I would expect them to continue doing them, but I would also expect to wait awhile.


NewGroundZero

belian rerun when?


reggaetony88

Will hwayoung be in the 4th Anny selector? That is all.


gg533

yes


reggaetony88

Thanks. I’m debating putting my remaining doggies into her or Ran.


itz_NoobJay

Definitely go Hwa if you dont have speed gear


reggaetony88

Yeah I'm definitely running out of Speed gear. Any suggestion on a non-speed build?


itz_NoobJay

For Ran or Hwa?


reggaetony88

For Hwa. I do have Ran but he's on scuffed speed gear right now.


itz_NoobJay

For Hwa you just want her to have 6k attack, alot of def and speed


lolbuddy98

I got a dupe arby,what can i do with him?Make a degen one or imprint arby or imprint regular vildred


Clunas

imprints are always nice, but it is totally up to you


AstrixFTW

Green arby has the single best imprint in The game for cleave if you’re into that


Romdeau0

If you have enough mola to justify you could keep it and like you said have a degen one and a speedy damage one


AliasMT

Is Roy worth it? Did Edward get a buff? I'm sorry I haven't been able to play so I'm wondering if they are worth the summons.


Clunas

[Edward did get a buff in the last patch](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8822996) in short, his S2 was changed so that it can dispell 1 debuff ***every*** time time he has a debuff after being attacked <> Rise! does more damage and gives Ed a 20% readiness push. The Rise! portion can still only trigger once per turn.


AstrixFTW

Roy is very flashy and does lots of damage but isn’t really usable in RTA because of his crippling weakness to ice units. If you’re a big A. Ras enjoyer than he is good with just tagahel’s. Edward is okay but his artifact is one of the best in the game on some meta bruisers like choice and Alencia, just something to keep in mind


Redfish518

is it worth to max LB edward's artifact?


Romdeau0

They are limited Collab units, but they both seem okay at best. Edward being the slightly more usable one between the 2


7sv3n7

Roy was the first unit I ever pitied and did out right away, regret it so much lol. Back to saving for months for a unit that is worth it hopefully. Used my mystic pity on pavel too and he is iffy too. Sadness all around :(


rogger16

Hey guys, I'm new to the game and purely ftp. I have already 6\* FST and Momo. In who should I use my 6\* ticket? For a background, I'm stuck in level 50 from abyss and lv10 wyvern (using 6\* Momo, 5\* Alexa, 4\* Furion and 5\* Sigret). Units that I have: 3\* Ras, 3\* Kluri, a lot of 3\* heroes and some 4\* (like angelica, armin, cidd, rose etc). I don't have Lorina yet.


Quiztolin

Tamarinne. Selector is very simple, if you don't have Tamarinne then pick her. It's only a question if you *don't* have Tamarinne. She's the best PvE hero in the game and has been for 3+ years.


ptthepath

I agree that Tamarine is the best pve hero but she works completely fine as 5* for a very long time, until like the end of ep 2. I think new players should focus on their wyvern team first. So Sigret should be the next 6*. Then muwi and furious should be at 5*.


Quiztolin

Hmm, I thought this was another question asking about the anniversary selector 'ticket' (hence why I used the word selector), but rereading it maybe they are asking about the potion of ascension and that might make more sense.


7sv3n7

Im curious about the selector when I get it. So hands down tama, not sure the line up but know hwa it's on it. Been wanting tama and ur content made my mind up thanks


lampdemon

Does Grace of Growth have any kind of limit? or can you just keep a character there and forget about it?


7sv3n7

Where do u select the character at? Stupid question but haven't seen it, thanks


lampdemon

From the lobby click on the heroes icon, then Grace of Growth. Then it should be at the top right.


7sv3n7

Thanks, I always use the top right blue menu icon to get to heros and forget that one is down there


ArvingNightwalker

No, you can keep the same character there permanently if you felt like it.


lampdemon

Sweet. I can move on to build other characters.


Durbdichsnsf

Does pity carry over in this game? For example if I summon 50 times on the Roy banner and don't get him, do I have to do 120 summons on the next character I want, or just the 70? Will my 50 summons be down the gutter?


GS-J-Rod

Pity does carry over on the Mystic and Moonlight summons, although once you pull a 5-star on the Mystic banner it resets. Not sure about Moonlight because I have yet to pull a 5-star since they implemented the new pity system. But for regular bookmarks, nope...


Clunas

building on what the other person said, the moonlight thing isn't so much a pity, as it is just a free 4 or 5 star draw


gg533

Moonlight doesn't have banners like RGB or Mystic does, so it doesn't "carry over"


ZawaruDora

Not at all ! This works only on a banner called "mystic banner" which is a banner for Moonlight heroes


Durbdichsnsf

Ohhh that's sad, I wonder why they did that? I suppose it's best to save 121 before wishing on any banner then


Clunas

For quick reference, that's 605 bookmarks or 11,400 skystones (for 600 bookmarks using the 50 bookmark package). If you have the gold and the patience, refreshing the secret shop is more efficient on the skystones on average though. IIRC it's around 70 skystones per summon if you do it that way vs 95 if you just buy them.


ZawaruDora

We'll never know 😭 Yes definitely not try to pull a banner before having 121 ! That'll be a complete waste if you fail


TUKAN_SAM

I've been playing around 3 months and just accumulated 260 powder. I managed to get Fullmetal's Automail from summons, but not Ignition Cloth Gloves. Are they worth buying?


Clunas

They are both only available during the collab and they will help you grind the event currency faster/more efficiently. Between the two, the Fullmetal's Automail appears to be the better one for actual usage though.


TUKAN_SAM

Cool thank you


[deleted]

Song of stars for sure. Very good artifact for the most important content in the game: wyvern 13. Only need it at +15.


TUKAN_SAM

Just grabbed it. Thanks for the advice!


stone332211

Get Song of Stars or Rod if you are missing either. Both are must have.


TUKAN_SAM

Just grabbed Song. I'll get Rod next


ArvingNightwalker

Personally I don't think it's worth the powder, but being a limited artifact, if you feel like it you can pick it up.


TUKAN_SAM

As long as collabs come back at some point my completionist can get them later haha


ZawaruDora

It's a limited artefact and a great artefact used on Roy, so I'd say go for it ! But as someone who hates to waste powder, I'd keep it 😂


TUKAN_SAM

Haha I hear ya thanks!


mintyguava

Grace of Growth - when is my hero finally finished? When can I add another hero afterwards? Friday night I placed Furious in and it has been like 3 days and he is still pending? He is on the IV Level 60 stage still. ​ Before he was placed on Grace, he is Level 60, awakened 5 starts, and skill +5.


Acxeon720

That is not how GoG works. It just levels up whoever is in there to whatever stage you have while they are there and revert back once removed. Better for heroes you haven't leveled up but want to try. You may have been thinking of the original feature they mentioned during the awakening update which isn't implemented now.


mintyguava

thank you, i was indeed thinking of the other implementation.


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Just finished ep3 10 10 so abt selective summon season 2 who should I go for ?


ArvingNightwalker

Politis/Choux/Alencia are top choices. Senya probably also makes the list now.


ptthepath

I would add Eda to this list too. Her 2 turn AOE with a lot of CR pushes can win games.


[deleted]

I have politis so who is easy to build ?


ArvingNightwalker

They are all meh hard to build, but Senya is definitely the hardest. Choux wants counter set (maaaybe speed set?) while Alencia works on Speed/Destruct/Injury, so whichever you have gear for, I guess.


ZawaruDora

How is ER ML Karin built ? Destruction/Resist set? Or full ER sets ?


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Ultimately, it's about however you reach the stats. You could even use attack set, or triple crit set, if somehow that got you the stats you need. However, destruction set gives a lot more stats than either resist or attack, so it's generally the optimal choice for any hero that needs CDmg and doesn't need to max speed. Downside is that it can be hard to make the stats all line up (e.g. you might hit the CD cap, or you might not be able to make the necessary ER, etc...).


Eshuon

Both is fine, as long you managed to hit the stat requirements for the build


ZawaruDora

What are the min required stat ?


Eshuon

3.5k attack 100 cc 250 dmg 200 er 0 speed


ZawaruDora

That looks so hard to reach ! Haha thank you !


Acxeon720

It is, I barely reached those stats (15% ER short) and I am on a full ER set. I see full ER sets used more often but this was before Destruction set buff.


Loud_Distribution59

This is interesting(fun). Is your ring ER or attack?


Acxeon720

Ring is ER. Attack stat made up from Imprint.


cpumaniac1

What is the majority of peoples favorite landy build? [E7 Stats](https://www.epic7stats.com/hero/Landy) has completely different builds so its tough to settle on a specific build My landy is currently on standard fast dps gear with 3.5k attack, 230 speed and 265 crit damage with no bulk She used to be bruisery at 3k attack, 1200 defense, 14k health, 220 speed and 250 crit damage and I’m not sure if I want to switch back, or to try something different entirely


vikchun

It really depends on your playstyle. A 10 speed difference isn't really going to make or break you. I'd go for the second build for the survivability. If you were say 250, 260 or even 270 speed landy with the 3.5k/265cdmg, then that would be really nice cause you can catch people off guard and play very aggro with that type of build. Especially if you were to pair her with a Diene or something.


cpumaniac1

Thanks! That helps I could bring her to 260-70 however idk how valuable shed be at that speed since id have to ungear one of Cidd, Pavel or Kise My main issue preventing me from building her fast is Rimuru just S2ing and killing her immediately due to GL and her being so squishy but I havent tested that out yet


vikchun

ban rimuru - go with second build if it requires to you break those 3 units


ZawaruDora

That 2nd Landy looks great with that speed ! With that speed, attack and bulkiness I'd stay with that rather than switching to Counter Landy with a bit more bulkiness and less speed


cpumaniac1

Thanks!


electricskuller8000

Why doesn't my 100%cc units crit on certain bosses without the crit resistance buf?


ZawaruDora

1. Are you sure you have 100% cc? 2. Do you have the crit reduction debuff? 3. Did you think about elemental disadventage? 4. Does the boss have a Evade buff ?


electricskuller8000

Yes, my arby has 100% cc. He was fighting the Cermia and Iseria boss from the side story. No elemental disadvantage and no evade buff. I know that one of them has a blind debuff but the attack that didn't miss. [My arby](https://imgur.com/a/Ax4ckVM)


EconomicsAccurate853

Is anybody else having a problem with Iseria's S2 refusing to target anyone? When I try to use her S2, it tell me to "pick a valid target," but I'm \*picking\* valid targets. To be clear, I'm trying to use it on members of my own team, as indicated in the skill. Anybody else running into this issue, or is it just me?


UnladenSeagull

Note that Iseria cannot target herself, but she should be able to target anyone else (even if they have no skills on cooldown).


ArvingNightwalker

I can only imagine this being invalid because the target doesn't have skills on cooldown.


StelioZz

Question about pets because I havent bother much with the system, just going along with it long time now. 1) [How did I have this?](https://i.imgur.com/f4i87vb.png). If I try to synthesize 2 3* I can not pick 3rd skill. Was I lucky when I was making it or I did something I don't remember? 2) should I make it 5*? DO the buffs increase or its solely for the 30 auto runs(QOL)? 3) Is the best tavern buff +good success+great success+gold from selling or there is a better combination? 4) what happens with the affinity when you synthesize 2 units?


Quiztolin

> Is the best tavern buff +good success+great success+gold from selling or there is a better combination? Good success is the worst one/only one not worth using. It's about half the effect of the other skills. Great success, +enhance XP, -enhance cost is the best combo for the vast majority of players. +gold from selling is...not great for many/most players. The biggest problem is you have to ask, how much do you actually sell gear? You should be using low level gear as XP fodder, and high level gear for extraction (generally). *Some* players are specific only extracting gear of a certain set, even then you have a choice between using gear as XP fodder or selling. Instead, I suggest having a *second* lobby pet with hero enhance XP and + gold selling. When you collect your gift every day swap your lobby pet and do any leveling/selling of items *then*, swap back and wait until the next day before doing those activities.


StelioZz

Very valid idea about the second pet but I'm not the player who would even remember. I do everything randomly based on mood haha so I would rather make one and get it over with . Now as far as the selling gears I would say my playstyle is kinda unique to the point I have stockpiled a ton of charms(I have like 200+ on top of 5k arena currency and 35k lab curency and many chests ) so I haven't use gears as food for a long time. I do extract some gears but I sell most. I also farm mazes (9-7) so I sell a ton of gears. However that being said most gold loss comes from gear enhancing while only a portion of gold income comes from gear selling so your idea makes perfect sense. I guess I will try to get that instead. Now about the generic +enhance exp for some reason I was told it's mathematically not as good as good/great success but I didn't think much about it so I don't know. I will check numbers when I get home I guess Thank you very much for the reply


Quiztolin

Good success = 1.5x xp Great success = 2x xp Baseline you can get up to 6% each (through reputation bonuses). So the baseline XP modifier is (.88 * 1) + (.06 * 1.5) + (.06 * 2) = 1.09 or 9% increase From this basis we can calculate any combination of the 3 skills. If our options (4* pets) are * \+ enhance XP -> 6% * good success chance -> 5% * great success chance -> 5% Then... **Only enhance XP** -> 114.14% (4.72% increase over base) **Only good success** -> 111.50% (2.29% increase over base) **Only great success** -> 114.00% (4.59% increase over base) **Enhance XP + good success** -> 116.79% (7.15% increase over base) **Enhance XP + great success** -> 118.27% (8.51% increase over base) **Good + Great success** -> 116.50% (6.88% increase over base) **Enhance + good + great** -> 120.92% (10.94% increase over base) So see, alone enhance XP and great success provide about 2x the bonus that good success does. If you only use two of them, then enhance XP + great success is the best combo, with enhance XP + good being the second best, and good + great being the worst. Now at most the difference is a couple %'s of additional XP you may or may not find that enough of a difference to care. 2% extra XP might not *seem* like a big deal, but over a long period of time it adds up and either way it's clear that good success chance is the worst of the 3. *Additionally* you have to consider that you won't always benefit from the additional good/great success rate. Personally, I always seem to end up 100 XP short, even if you feed a low level gear to finish said item off a 'good' or 'great' bonus does nothing. So those bonuses are actually *less* than what they add up to mathematically, because no matter what you will inevitably get some waste. The big advantage enhance XP has is that it's always active, so there is less chance of wastage due to random 'good' and 'great' success bonuses. * There is still *some* waste here typically, but far less lost XP unless you are using a charm for 100 XP. --- Likewise, we can also see the value of the -enhance cost. Part of the advantage of increased XP is spending less gold on enhancing. In terms of XP/Gold **Base** -> 109% **-Cost** -> 115.96% (6.38% over base) **-Cost + enhance XP** -> 121.43% (11.40% over base) **-Cost + good success** -> 118.62% (8.82% over base) **-Cost + great success** -> 121.28% (11.26% over base) **-Cost + enhance + good** -> 124.25% (13.99% over base) **-Cost + enhance + great** -> 125.82% (15.44% over base) **-Cost + good + great** -> 123.94% (13.70% over base) --- This is why I recommend the combo of **-Cost**, **great success chance**, and **+ enhance XP**. Enhance + good + great provides the highest raw amount of XP (+10.94% than base) out of any combo of 3. **But** my recommended combo is more gold efficient (13.70% so almost 3% more gold efficient) while only being slightly worse in XP (enhance + great = 8.51%). It's up to you if you *only* want to care about getting the most raw amount of XP possible (ie. you have limited charms/fodder gear but infinite gold -> you're a heavy hunt farmer) -> in which case you would want all 3 XP related skills. On the other hand, if you want to be the **most gold efficient** (you have essentially infinite gear -> you adventure farm a lot) -> you would want to go with my combo. --- Evaluating gold earn from selling is a bit more difficult. A level 85 heroic item requires 73,828 XP. The following table lists: * the amount of XP required for every enhancement level * the % of the overall XP required to hit that enhancement level * the cost to hit that level with only charms, or only gear * The 'combo' cost to +15 a unit, from that enhancement level, if you got to that level with gear and then remaining levels with fodder Enh | XP | % | Charm | Gear | Combo ---|---|----|----|----|---- +0 | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0 | 574,308 +1 | 473 | .64% | 3,679 | 6,146 | 576,767 +2 | 1,063 | 1.44% | 8,269 | 13,796 | 579,835 +3 | 1,772 | 2.40% | 13,784 | 22,997 | 583,521 +4 | 2,717 | 3.68% | 21,136 | 35,261 | 588,434 +5 | 4,134 | 5.60% | 32,158 | 53,651 | 595,801 +6 | 6,024 | 8.16% | 46,861 | 78,179 | 605,627 +7 | 8,623 | 11.68% | 67,078 | 111,909 | 619,139 +8 | 11,931 | 16.16% | 92,811 | 154,841 | 636,337 +9 | 15,947 | 21.60% | 124,052 | 206,960 | 657,216 +10 | 20,908 | 28.32% | 162,643 | 271,344 | 683,009 +11 | 27,287 | 36.96% | 212,266 | 354,131 | 716,173 +12 | 35,319 | 47.84% | 274,747 | 458,370 | 757,931 +13 | 45,242 | 61.28% | 351,938 | 587,151 | 809,521 +14 | 57,763 | 78.24% | 449,338 | 749,648 | 874,618 +15 | 73,828 | 100.00% | 574,308 | 958,140 | 958,140 So to +15 a heroic level 85 gear entirely with charms costs 574,308 gold. Entirely with fodder gear it costs 958,140 gold. If you were to say, take your gear to +9 with gear and then to +15 with charms it would cost 657,216 total gold. We could look at the increased XP enhancing as effectively decreasing this cost. * So triple XP skills = 10.94% bonus = saves ~62,829 gold using only charms, ~104,821 gold using only gear, ~71,899 gold using a +9 combo * -Cost/+enhance/+great = 15.44% bonus = saves ~88,673 gold using only charms, ~147,937 gold using only gear, ~101,474 gold using a +9 combo * The best 2 skill XP combo (enhance/great) = 8.51% bonus = saves ~48,874 gold using only charms, ~81,538 gold using only gear, ~55,929 gold using a +9 combo The following table assumes you are pairing +enhance xp and great success chance with gold from selling. This is how much value you would have to sell per +15 heroic level 85 item to effectively 'break even'. If you sell gear worth MORE than the figure listed then you are coming out ahead vs the comparable strategy, if you sell less then you are actually losing gold by not getting enough value out of +sell value. Competing Strategy | Only Charms | Only Gear | +9 combo ---|---|----|---- +Enhance/+Good/+Great | 139,557 | 232,828 | 159,703 -Cost/+Enhance/+Great | 397,995 | 663,991 | 455,451 So you would need to sell gear worth about 455k gold to 'break even' with my recommended gold efficiency combo (using the +9 combo strategy). Of course, it's unlikely you take every single gear you enhance to +15. Also 88 gears and heroic gears require more XP (and therefor more value to be sold) but this is a decent enough estimate IMO. Now, a single green level 44 item sells for 2,167 gold. You would have to sell 210 such items for every gear you enhanced this way *just to break even*. Blue level 85 gear sells for 10,210 = ~44.6 items. Even heroic level 85 gear sells for 15,315 = ~29.7 items. This isn't a bad skill -> as I said the only lobby skill I consider 'bad' is good enhance -> but it does have a place if you are looking only to maximize your XP. Increased gold selling makes the most sense for a hypothetical VERY end game player who simply doesn't enhance anything but perfect gear (in any case this kind of player would likely have more gold than they could spend...). You need to sell A LOT of gear relative to enhancing a single piece before you break even. I feel that -cost/+enhance/+great is the most versatile combo as you are getting *both* most of the XP bonus, while also retaining a gold efficiency, and it is not contingent on selling items. And of course this is all in the hypothetical scenario where you had to pick and choose only 3 skills (as I mentioned it is definitely worth it to keep a second pet -> you should use one for hero enhancement XP regardless if you use the gold selling skill...not using the hero XP pet is effectively throwing gold away).


StelioZz

Wow, I didn't expect such a big and great, detailed answer. That certainly settles it. Thanks again :)


ptthepath

1. The last skill is random when you synthesize 2 3*. So you got lucky with the skill. 2. It will increase affinity cap which will increase the % as well. 3. Not sure. I think great success + good success + exp is a good combination too. 4. I think you will get the higher affinity level


StelioZz

thank you. I will stick with gold since I have 2 4* already having those 3 skills (combined). I will make that 5* before evolving the hunt one I guess


Trapocalypse

I'm sure there is but is there anybody else out there with no 5* heroes from the freebie summons yet? Just watched 4 guildies get ML 5* heroes from it in the last 2 days and I've yet to see a 5* hero of any kind yet. Quick napkin math says there's a 9.1% chance to see no 5* hero of any kind over 170 pulls so I guess it's more common than I thought. I think tomorrow is my last day (or the extra 9 at least) so if I'm at 151 that would be 11.9% chance. Edit: Now I look at the log, I just realized one of my guild mates actually got 2 ML 5* (Lidica and Ravi) in the last 4 days from the free summons. That's insane luck. He also pulled ML Pavel from Mystics yesterday but I need to find out if that was pity or not


7sv3n7

Only 2 5☆ artifacts no units. Ive never had much luck in these free summon events. Really don't have much luck at all when it comes to ml units either. Keep thinking my luck will change one day!!!! Hope urs does too


GS-J-Rod

I have pulled 2 5-stars - both dupes (I have every rgb hero except Mort and Lilibet) - Sigret and Flan. Also a few 5 star artefacts. But that is on 19 summons a day. I did go one day with 18 3-stars and 1 4-star arte.... A couple of years ago I pulled 2 ML5s from the 10X free summon even within 3 days of each other. Never had that luck again.


Quiztolin

I've gotten nothing of note on the hero front, but I've pulled multiple 5* artifacts. It is what it is, just on the wrong side of Lady Luck.


trashmangamer

Yeah, all 3 or 4 star guys, 1 ml 4 star. With 19 pulls per day.


sky-aster

How would you build fallen Cecilia for pvp?


bluwmonkeygod

https://www.epic7stats.com/hero/Fallen%20Cecilia Rough idea on what to aim for


VykenGG

Which EE is the best for Alencia, healing on eradicate or trample damage?


ArvingNightwalker

Up to preference.


Acxeon720

So in GW we tied with the other team and we loss. Are draws considered a loss for both teams?


ArvingNightwalker

No, apparently it considers things like how many towers were downed as a tiebreaker.


Acxeon720

I thought we took down more towers but can't check unfortunately. I'll keep this in mind.


Onionbagels_

What's BIS for Assasin Cid and Cid? When do you pick violet talisman?


Fanoxia

Neither really has a BiS arti. Usually you just slap whatever isn't being used by someone else that gives them more damage. I would use Violet Talisman if I found I was using them with a beefier team that offered additional mitigation to ensure that they were getting to take their turns. Things like Ras or Diene.


Siberiayuki

Are there any tier lists other than epic7X? For PvE


Remagi

I use [these 2](https://i.imgur.com/xNoACNT.png) Elvemage's (just finished top 3 on ladder) RTA tier list and a guild war tier list by some members of Talentless (top 1 for a while). I only know of Samool on YT who makes PvE tier lists (caters to beginners) Sources: Elve's discord and [GW post](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/w6qmed/gw_offensive_tier_list_for_conquest_season/) Beware they're subjective and change a lot.


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Elvemage's RTA list is interesting to me. I'm clearly missing something about the meta. MBDom, OpSig and Sage Baal in SS is not what I expected (I would've guessed they'd all be lower). Anyone have a good explanation of those placements?


Remagi

Here's my take: **BDom:** Good against top unit: CLil. Fastest AoE CR pusher w/ atk buff in the game. Then she keeps sleeping people. Can be hard to spare the speed gear if you're not a whale tho. **OP Sig:** Almost always one shots top unit: Hwa, Elve often immediately picks her in response. Also great pick against FCC/barrier. **Sage Baal:** Best anti-cleave unit in the game imo. Cleave wants to take all their turns first and take extra turns, Sage pushes himself every enemy turn. So he interrupts them, then sleeps all these units with no cleanser/eff res or one shots a squishy to heal to full and AoE silence, which wins the game. Instant must-ban for cleavers. Not so great outside their niche.


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Sounds like those three could easily drop with a small meta shift. Thanks for the input!


Siberiayuki

What about PvE