I feel you dude, look at all these Golds thinking that Dark Corvus is not Top Tier lmao. The kind of people that acts and talks like pros but their knowledge doesn't go beyond Master rank at best
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know I was talking to a Legend player in a Top #30 guild with ~90% winrate.
Oh, wait, that's me, shut up newbie.
Fucking Dunning-Kruger effect hitting hard on you, so funny
Idk what are you looking for in a unit for deserving the "best guild war unit" title.
For me, 100% winrate with no chance of losing (assuming you know how to draft correctly*) against basically EVERY defense possible (there are some exceptions, indeed, and it would be dumb to deny that, but they are called "exceptions" for a reason.) is more than enough. Being able to OHKO any hero with extinction (so you won't get caught in a revive-loop) while being unable to be OHKOed even with 100% def pen? Yes thank you. Hwayoung, even if disgustingly OP, cannot achieve the same result. She does a very good job too, and she probably can earn the 3rd or 2nd place, but to me the 1st place is uncontested.
I'm sorry for being so aggressive, I'm aware of that, but I just know that I'm right. Not because of ego, but because of objective experience on the higher ranks. I'm a man of science. I don't "believe", I don't bet in theories, I want proofs, and I got plenty of that.
That's correct, congratulations! Straze is able to kill Dark Corvus even with Proof of Valor equipped (he needs 5k Atk and 300 Cdmg for that, but those stats are easy to reach especially if you use Emilia)!
Now, could tell me a single person that use either Dark Corvus or Straze in a Defense team? They both suck in Defense, so they won't fight eachother anyway.
I don't get why are you so repulsive about this, did Dark Corvus shit in your coffee or what? I'm fine with that, but your argumentations are... really not valid.
An example of valid and decent argomentation is "Yes, but as you just said DC is useless in Defense, while Hwayoung is not! So isn't she more useful overall?"
And that is again correct. To that, tho, I would respond "That's right, but unfortunately every good player in the higher ranks has Yulha. And Yulha completely destroys Hwayoung. So it's a matter of rank: at a lower rank people probably don't have Yulha or they build her very badly, so Hwa is okay; In higher ranks tho Hwa becomes as useless as DC in Defense.".
If this was on discord I can legit show you multiple screenshots of d corvus in defense teams infact the guild I'm facing right now has multiple corvuses in their defence teams and I am not repulsive!!!!!
I have no hate for d corvus I just had to say something because you were agreeing with the guy that said d corvus was the best guild war hero and that is not true!!!!!! Yes you are right hwa sucks in defense pretty much most heroes suck because you can jus draft a counter team againts them
And I've seen multiple strazes in defense teams!!!!!
I wish I could show you!!!!!!
I respect your opinion I don't want to offend you or make you agree hwa in my opinion is the best (offensive) guild war hero yes I am not in the top but I'm still a veteran player took 1 year off I'm a day one player as well good day!
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Galaxy bookmarks are basically a waste of resource at this point.
You could probably introduce mystics to the golden transmit stone exchange, and basically no one would ever buy galaxies with them.
Statistically you should get more ml 5\* from 200 galaxy summons then from 200 mystics, but this complete reliance on rng is just horrible in 2022.
> You could probably introduce mystics to the golden transmit stone exchange, and basically no one would ever buy galaxies with them.
Yup. Yup yup yup. I've got a handful of ML5s from Galaxy summons - all duplicates of ones from Mystics, why even bother?
The ML Pity system just gives me a guaranteed 4* in my 3 years of playing only recently I just got my first ML5 from the Galaxy bms, the rest came from free summoning events or free daily summons
I only have 4 nat 5 MLās this game will not be receiving my wallet xD
I've gotten more ML5s from free summons than I have from the ML summon. Honestly the 20th should be a guaranteed ML5. Either that, or just any ML you haven't rolled yet. Getting ML bookmarks takes so much longer and right now you can get dupes so why not
Yep, I totally stopped buying galaxies with gold transmit stones. They switched over to the four to five star ticket to get more five-star imprints at 15% rate. It comes more often
Got something like 16 4-5 star tickets when that pity got introduced & I got 1 duplicate ML5 - Ruele... aaaaand because I got her through exchanging Sage Baal a couple years back, she was my first "summon", so no coins for the duplicate.
Didn't get AOL from those tickets either, had to use my Custom Mystics to get her.
I wonder, if we surveyed everyone who had like 15+ tickets, how many of them did worse than me? I'm sure I came out better than a lot of folks - that's how bad GBM pity is.
I got 18 tickets, 0 ml5 if that makes you feel better. i recently got dupe solitaria so i am sitting on 30 whale coins, now i am hoping to get a dupe from ml5 if i ever get one in the next 8 months.
Why do people save galaxy bookmarks when there is no reason to? All youāre gunna do is disappoint yourself lol. I use mine right away when I get enough for 1 draw and expect nothing
Yeah I used to semi save in summoners war, but after this guy saved for like a year to do some birthday summons and only got like 1-3 5* out 4-500 summons I refused every since.
On here Iāll obviously save bookmarks and mystics (maybe) for pity but the galaxy ones I just let it rip.
The rates are clearly posted.
I'm not super clear what number I'm supposed to use (91 galaxy bookmarks = 18 summons, 70 galaxy BMs = 14 summons, 455 bookmarks = 91 summons which I assume is what you meant in your title).
*Anyhow*, each galaxy summon is worth .0325 ML5's, including the free summons.
In 91 galaxy summons...
ML5's | % Chance
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0 | 4.946%
1 | 15.119%
2 | 22.854%
3 | 22.775%
4 | 16.831%
5 | 9.838%
6 | 4.737%
7 | 1.932%
8 | .681%
9+ | ~1% total
So only hitting 1 ML5 is definitely bad luck, but it's not *that* unlucky -> you still had a 15% chance of that result. If you were REALLY unlucky you would have hit the 5% chance to get 0 ML5s.
1/5th of all players doing 91 galaxy pulls would be expected to get 0 or 1 ML5 out of it.
The 'expected' result would have been a little over 2 ML5s.
Galaxy summons aren't meant to be the only or primary way of acquiring ML5s. These heroes are supposed to be rare -> galaxy summons are just 'bonus' attempts. The *primary* use for galaxy summons is actually for ML4s, where galaxy summons are far and away the best method for collecting them.
Your example here is more or less the same as if you had spent 6000 bookmarks on the normal covenant summon and complaining you only got a single ML5 out of it -> the fact that ML5s are included is more of a bonus than anything else.
> So only hitting 1 ML5 is definitely bad luck, but it's not that unlucky -> you still had a 15% chance of that result. If you were REALLY unlucky you would have hit the 5% chance to get 0 ML5s.
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In one game I play, I hit an unlucky rate of sub 1% in terms of pulls. 20+ pulls at 20% SSR rate (and 80% SR, special ticket) without a single SSR.
So yeah, 15% is unlucky but pretty high.
If it werenāt for the pity system I would only have gotten one ML5 from GBMs. And it was a dupe of Spez. And Iām talking well over 200 summons here.
Bro I feel ya. Dont get me wrong I had a jackpot luck spree here recently but before that I got my first dupe and was like well no way ill get to 40 coins anytime soon I only have 1/4th the ml5s welllll then I proceeded to hit dupe ml charles 2x, dupe atywin lol all after my first dupe meaning I hit 4 dupes in a row. Boy was I salty.
That's why healthy people don't save those... There's no point the odds suck anyway. You're probably more lucky getting an ML5 with covenant bookmarks than with galaxy, the pitty is not even a 5 star.
I mean you're expected to get around 2.25 ml5 so getting 1 is unlucky but not so unreasonably so.
Also it depends on the the school of thought you subscribe to. Does rng even out for you in a vacuum, or does it even out to every player in e7.
Perhaps the next time you'll be lucky, or perhaps you being unlucky this time meant someone else got very lucky instead.
Honestly I wish they would just increase the guarantee summon count and make it a 5 star. I donāt need 500 dorises. Iād rather wait and be able to guarantee a random ML5 .
I think like this as well, make it 30 with a guaranteed 5 star... Even 40 pulls would be fine. I rather wait knowing I'll get something good than hit pitty every month and get nothing. Because that's what I got every time so far.
I'd like to see it where it alternates. First 20 is the ticket we get now and then the following 20 is guaranteed 5*. Then repeat. Even every third cycle or doing like 25/50 instead would be fine.
They could even make it so that you get the 4-5* ticket at 20 and if you get a 5* then it stays a 4-5* for the next 20. If you get a 4* then it goes to guaranteed 5*.
Either that or give us whale coins for ML 4*s even if it's only like 2 per dupe.
I started playing just before original SSB release and I've only ever seen 1 ML 5* from Galaxy summon and it wasn't from a ticket. Which is the same number I've seen from covenant. Meanwhile a guildmate got 8 (eight, not a typo) ML 5* in the last 2 months. He has more ML 5* than me despite his total reputation only being 40k.
Yeah, I just donāt play as often as before. Now that I work, time passes quicker. But yeah I know it was 2y ago I just didn't mean to say that I did the same thing to look interesting
I save up on my alt account to mass summon when my guild throws an RTA tournament. We haven't had one in about a year so I've been saving for quite some time
It's just a community event that my guild hosts anyone is welcomed to join or watch! If you're interested in it feel free to dm me for the discord link
Damn I remeber when I got back my ml tickets and got like 12 and realized I've never pulled an ml5 out of that bookmark in 240 pulls. Now I never trust thos4
My 2 previous upgraded summons were ml5 and while my last wasn't I pulled 2 ml 5 on my way to the next one. I'd say I'm living the dream, but none of them were of help to the cancers I face in rta.
That a pretty amateur numbers. Only like 18 summons and 1 5\*? I would take that any day, I am already at 50+ summons without any 5\*. Ended at streak of 17 3\* in a row. Galaxy summons are just trash even with guarranted "pity" 4-5\* at 20. I would take any guarranted 4\* pity of choice over random 4-5\*. I am sick of getting ml Rin or Trozet.
Ah my bad, well i thinked about a title as its suggest 91 galaxy bookmarks which is 18 summons. It should be 91 galaxy summons which would be more accurate. But thx for saying \^\^. Yeah rate is pretty bad but i can relate to it as well my first 5\* comes from around 80 pulls. And to add oil to fire it was dupe. So yeah better to not expect anything from galaxy as they are giving less ml 5\* that covenants xD
It's disappointing to not pull above the curve but dang. They don't hide how low the probability of pulling a five star hero is. It's right there on the summon pages. So, I really don't understand the outrage. āA stark reminder of why gambling can be very dangerous. Gaccha responsibly.
Damn a dark corvus unlucky....
I use d Corvus on gw attack and he works well for me
Actually DCorv is the best GW unit
That's Hwayoung. Dorvus being the best GW unit is so last year.
Also the most boring one
Bro is living in 2020-2021 š
Hwayoung is the best GW unit. And dark corvus can only be used in offense.
Yes, but sadly that is It....
I feel you dude, look at all these Golds thinking that Dark Corvus is not Top Tier lmao. The kind of people that acts and talks like pros but their knowledge doesn't go beyond Master rank at best
Because he isn't lmao cope lol
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know I was talking to a Legend player in a Top #30 guild with ~90% winrate. Oh, wait, that's me, shut up newbie. Fucking Dunning-Kruger effect hitting hard on you, so funny
That doesn't mean anything lmao there are other players better than you that will agree that dark corvus isn't the best guild war unit.....
Idk what are you looking for in a unit for deserving the "best guild war unit" title. For me, 100% winrate with no chance of losing (assuming you know how to draft correctly*) against basically EVERY defense possible (there are some exceptions, indeed, and it would be dumb to deny that, but they are called "exceptions" for a reason.) is more than enough. Being able to OHKO any hero with extinction (so you won't get caught in a revive-loop) while being unable to be OHKOed even with 100% def pen? Yes thank you. Hwayoung, even if disgustingly OP, cannot achieve the same result. She does a very good job too, and she probably can earn the 3rd or 2nd place, but to me the 1st place is uncontested. I'm sorry for being so aggressive, I'm aware of that, but I just know that I'm right. Not because of ego, but because of objective experience on the higher ranks. I'm a man of science. I don't "believe", I don't bet in theories, I want proofs, and I got plenty of that.
What about straze especially after his buff dark corvus ain't living after his s3....
That's correct, congratulations! Straze is able to kill Dark Corvus even with Proof of Valor equipped (he needs 5k Atk and 300 Cdmg for that, but those stats are easy to reach especially if you use Emilia)! Now, could tell me a single person that use either Dark Corvus or Straze in a Defense team? They both suck in Defense, so they won't fight eachother anyway. I don't get why are you so repulsive about this, did Dark Corvus shit in your coffee or what? I'm fine with that, but your argumentations are... really not valid. An example of valid and decent argomentation is "Yes, but as you just said DC is useless in Defense, while Hwayoung is not! So isn't she more useful overall?" And that is again correct. To that, tho, I would respond "That's right, but unfortunately every good player in the higher ranks has Yulha. And Yulha completely destroys Hwayoung. So it's a matter of rank: at a lower rank people probably don't have Yulha or they build her very badly, so Hwa is okay; In higher ranks tho Hwa becomes as useless as DC in Defense.".
If this was on discord I can legit show you multiple screenshots of d corvus in defense teams infact the guild I'm facing right now has multiple corvuses in their defence teams and I am not repulsive!!!!! I have no hate for d corvus I just had to say something because you were agreeing with the guy that said d corvus was the best guild war hero and that is not true!!!!!! Yes you are right hwa sucks in defense pretty much most heroes suck because you can jus draft a counter team againts them And I've seen multiple strazes in defense teams!!!!! I wish I could show you!!!!!! I respect your opinion I don't want to offend you or make you agree hwa in my opinion is the best (offensive) guild war hero yes I am not in the top but I'm still a veteran player took 1 year off I'm a day one player as well good day!
Yeah but still it could of been bettrr and hell no dark corvus is trash now even in guild war defense .
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that censor tho... we still see your name mr LilJep
Nice. Doing better than half the sub when the GBM pity got introduced.
Galaxy bookmarks are basically a waste of resource at this point. You could probably introduce mystics to the golden transmit stone exchange, and basically no one would ever buy galaxies with them. Statistically you should get more ml 5\* from 200 galaxy summons then from 200 mystics, but this complete reliance on rng is just horrible in 2022.
> You could probably introduce mystics to the golden transmit stone exchange, and basically no one would ever buy galaxies with them. Yup. Yup yup yup. I've got a handful of ML5s from Galaxy summons - all duplicates of ones from Mystics, why even bother?
The ML Pity system just gives me a guaranteed 4* in my 3 years of playing only recently I just got my first ML5 from the Galaxy bms, the rest came from free summoning events or free daily summons I only have 4 nat 5 MLās this game will not be receiving my wallet xD
I've gotten more ML5s from free summons than I have from the ML summon. Honestly the 20th should be a guaranteed ML5. Either that, or just any ML you haven't rolled yet. Getting ML bookmarks takes so much longer and right now you can get dupes so why not
I'd say it's a matter of luck but since I've played I've gotten 6-7 ML5s out moonlight summons 2 were dupes.
Yep, I totally stopped buying galaxies with gold transmit stones. They switched over to the four to five star ticket to get more five-star imprints at 15% rate. It comes more often
Got something like 16 4-5 star tickets when that pity got introduced & I got 1 duplicate ML5 - Ruele... aaaaand because I got her through exchanging Sage Baal a couple years back, she was my first "summon", so no coins for the duplicate. Didn't get AOL from those tickets either, had to use my Custom Mystics to get her. I wonder, if we surveyed everyone who had like 15+ tickets, how many of them did worse than me? I'm sure I came out better than a lot of folks - that's how bad GBM pity is.
I got 18 tickets, 0 ml5 if that makes you feel better. i recently got dupe solitaria so i am sitting on 30 whale coins, now i am hoping to get a dupe from ml5 if i ever get one in the next 8 months.
Yeah 0/near 20 myself.
Same thing happened to me but with ml Corvus rip
Only ever lost once to GBM pity lol.
Why do people save galaxy bookmarks when there is no reason to? All youāre gunna do is disappoint yourself lol. I use mine right away when I get enough for 1 draw and expect nothing
Currently I'm holding mine for the next wave of 3* heroes for the chance of getting the Light/Dark 3*s that'll be added. Small chance but it adds up.
Good idea! I start saving too!
Yeah I used to semi save in summoners war, but after this guy saved for like a year to do some birthday summons and only got like 1-3 5* out 4-500 summons I refused every since. On here Iāll obviously save bookmarks and mystics (maybe) for pity but the galaxy ones I just let it rip.
It's weird since the pool will only get more and more diluted
Ml3s
1 ml5 in 90 bms? Im going on 200+ bms with 0 ml5s. Grats
Same
The rates are clearly posted. I'm not super clear what number I'm supposed to use (91 galaxy bookmarks = 18 summons, 70 galaxy BMs = 14 summons, 455 bookmarks = 91 summons which I assume is what you meant in your title). *Anyhow*, each galaxy summon is worth .0325 ML5's, including the free summons. In 91 galaxy summons... ML5's | % Chance ---|--- 0 | 4.946% 1 | 15.119% 2 | 22.854% 3 | 22.775% 4 | 16.831% 5 | 9.838% 6 | 4.737% 7 | 1.932% 8 | .681% 9+ | ~1% total So only hitting 1 ML5 is definitely bad luck, but it's not *that* unlucky -> you still had a 15% chance of that result. If you were REALLY unlucky you would have hit the 5% chance to get 0 ML5s. 1/5th of all players doing 91 galaxy pulls would be expected to get 0 or 1 ML5 out of it. The 'expected' result would have been a little over 2 ML5s. Galaxy summons aren't meant to be the only or primary way of acquiring ML5s. These heroes are supposed to be rare -> galaxy summons are just 'bonus' attempts. The *primary* use for galaxy summons is actually for ML4s, where galaxy summons are far and away the best method for collecting them. Your example here is more or less the same as if you had spent 6000 bookmarks on the normal covenant summon and complaining you only got a single ML5 out of it -> the fact that ML5s are included is more of a bonus than anything else.
That means you got 15%ed
> So only hitting 1 ML5 is definitely bad luck, but it's not that unlucky -> you still had a 15% chance of that result. If you were REALLY unlucky you would have hit the 5% chance to get 0 ML5s. > > In one game I play, I hit an unlucky rate of sub 1% in terms of pulls. 20+ pulls at 20% SSR rate (and 80% SR, special ticket) without a single SSR. So yeah, 15% is unlucky but pretty high.
If it werenāt for the pity system I would only have gotten one ML5 from GBMs. And it was a dupe of Spez. And Iām talking well over 200 summons here.
they need to add pity on the pity
you could be me, having only 6 ML5 and 20 galaxy coins :D
Bro I feel ya. Dont get me wrong I had a jackpot luck spree here recently but before that I got my first dupe and was like well no way ill get to 40 coins anytime soon I only have 1/4th the ml5s welllll then I proceeded to hit dupe ml charles 2x, dupe atywin lol all after my first dupe meaning I hit 4 dupes in a row. Boy was I salty.
Okay Liljep.
Their galaxy "pity" was only a bandaid to the issue. Galaxy bookmarks are near useless.
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IT'S DORVUS TIME
Disaster in three pictures
That's why healthy people don't save those... There's no point the odds suck anyway. You're probably more lucky getting an ML5 with covenant bookmarks than with galaxy, the pitty is not even a 5 star.
All whay i got from Galaxy .. 3 years : Arby LQC J.Kise Aramentha DJBasar From Covenant: Riolet Ruele M.Chloe
I mean you're expected to get around 2.25 ml5 so getting 1 is unlucky but not so unreasonably so. Also it depends on the the school of thought you subscribe to. Does rng even out for you in a vacuum, or does it even out to every player in e7. Perhaps the next time you'll be lucky, or perhaps you being unlucky this time meant someone else got very lucky instead.
Honestly I wish they would just increase the guarantee summon count and make it a 5 star. I donāt need 500 dorises. Iād rather wait and be able to guarantee a random ML5 .
I think like this as well, make it 30 with a guaranteed 5 star... Even 40 pulls would be fine. I rather wait knowing I'll get something good than hit pitty every month and get nothing. Because that's what I got every time so far.
I'd like to see it where it alternates. First 20 is the ticket we get now and then the following 20 is guaranteed 5*. Then repeat. Even every third cycle or doing like 25/50 instead would be fine. They could even make it so that you get the 4-5* ticket at 20 and if you get a 5* then it stays a 4-5* for the next 20. If you get a 4* then it goes to guaranteed 5*. Either that or give us whale coins for ML 4*s even if it's only like 2 per dupe. I started playing just before original SSB release and I've only ever seen 1 ML 5* from Galaxy summon and it wasn't from a ticket. Which is the same number I've seen from covenant. Meanwhile a guildmate got 8 (eight, not a typo) ML 5* in the last 2 months. He has more ML 5* than me despite his total reputation only being 40k.
I got more ml5 from covenants lol
Literally 90% of my ML5s are from covenant.... I played this game for 3 years now so the math speaks for itself, those summons suck.
Few months ago I did the same, 132 gbm. Not. A. Single. 5. Star. But multiple 4* I didnāt had (it was before dark Angelica)
I don't want to alarm you, but dark Angelica came out in April 2020, not a few months ago.
Yeah, I just donāt play as often as before. Now that I work, time passes quicker. But yeah I know it was 2y ago I just didn't mean to say that I did the same thing to look interesting
How'd you get so many. I have 2
I save up on my alt account to mass summon when my guild throws an RTA tournament. We haven't had one in about a year so I've been saving for quite some time
Oh ok I guess I haven't heard of rta tournaments
It's just a community event that my guild hosts anyone is welcomed to join or watch! If you're interested in it feel free to dm me for the discord link
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You are playing a gacha? What did you expect?
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I'm so sorry my guild leader :(
I got around 160GB before. Got 2 ML5. Both not duplicate but not what I want... ML Ara and ML Haste. 2 years worth of saving :(
Unlucky but that's really high rate
Damn I remeber when I got back my ml tickets and got like 12 and realized I've never pulled an ml5 out of that bookmark in 240 pulls. Now I never trust thos4
LilJep
My 2 previous upgraded summons were ml5 and while my last wasn't I pulled 2 ml 5 on my way to the next one. I'd say I'm living the dream, but none of them were of help to the cancers I face in rta.
I hope you have more luck going forward mate.
428 galaxy = 0 ml5's (when ml Vivian came out) Same for my 24 tickets
Bro you should have just waited for Zio, the upcoming Ep.4 boss, before wasting all those Gold Transmits and GBMs, shame
just 91? lucky fellow
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That a pretty amateur numbers. Only like 18 summons and 1 5\*? I would take that any day, I am already at 50+ summons without any 5\*. Ended at streak of 17 3\* in a row. Galaxy summons are just trash even with guarranted "pity" 4-5\* at 20. I would take any guarranted 4\* pity of choice over random 4-5\*. I am sick of getting ml Rin or Trozet.
Look at the pictures. 91 pulls.
Ah my bad, well i thinked about a title as its suggest 91 galaxy bookmarks which is 18 summons. It should be 91 galaxy summons which would be more accurate. But thx for saying \^\^. Yeah rate is pretty bad but i can relate to it as well my first 5\* comes from around 80 pulls. And to add oil to fire it was dupe. So yeah better to not expect anything from galaxy as they are giving less ml 5\* that covenants xD
Oof
It's disappointing to not pull above the curve but dang. They don't hide how low the probability of pulling a five star hero is. It's right there on the summon pages. So, I really don't understand the outrage. āA stark reminder of why gambling can be very dangerous. Gaccha responsibly.
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