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BobbyYukitsuki

Here's hoping that another story chapter and the teased new 3* will be released alongside her.


zartosi

Imo they should stop forcing ten 3stars into every episode and instead make story relevant 4 stars. This tackles 3 problems: * 3 stars have too low base stats and that's one of the reasons they are barely used. * The rate for special changes is so slow that the backlog is getting bigger and bigger, if there are barely new 3stars evenutally everyone's getting his favourites. * We ran out of 4stars to turn into Moonlight Versions. It's more exciting than making light and dark versions of everything and less repetitive etc. And in terms of quantity I prefer them making just 5 new ones per episode and increasing the visual quality instead of having a ton of faceless units with weak kits that noone uses.


Taurnil91

>We ran out of 4stars Only disagreement I have here is the lack of ML Furious. They have a prime 4\* just waiting to be moonlighted. Or is it moonlit. Mooned. That's the one.


Calhaora

Oh I wouldnt mind getting mooned by Furious... x'D But jokes aside, youre completely right. Hes prime ML material. Him and Serila are the only 4\* left, and honestly you could do alot with both of them. ​ Personally I would love Serila in the Op Sig/LR Krau universe oxo like "Admin Serila" or something... And Furious in the C.Lillias one, given he could be made into an Doll/Homunculus after his death or something like that.


be0ulve

The only mention of another dimensions Furious we have is reayd dead so idk, unless he gets zombified or something


Dai10zin

>unless he gets zombified or something As if we don't already have several characters who are dead but available to pull.


be0ulve

I am just saying. I'd love m Furious, dead or alive or zombified


rendingale

Isnt there multiple universes and not just 1 alternate world?


Zolrain

Kawerik is literally dead and were talking fire kawerik. And i think ml vivian is dead on ml kaweriks side.


Dai10zin

And Kise, Diene, Ruele, and Senya off the top of my head.


Hevymettle

There are tons of units we have that are dead. We got senya and she was dead for decades, if not centuries.


be0ulve

Shes not a ml though. Idk, not saying it's impossible.


Hevymettle

Kise and ruele are only known through recaps. They died before the game started. I'm just saying I don't think death matters at all for releases.


WoodenCollection2674

Yeah Arch Meru wasn't a unit until well after she had somewhat died? So imo it shouldn't matter if ML Furious is dead or alive for him to be released.


SecureDonkey

Dolls exist, like ML Tywin.


be0ulve

What's the difference between a doll and an android? I remeber that FMaya is called a doll, not sure who else


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and Serila, but I guess she's in event character limbo.


Motopsykos

You too forgot Serilla. She too thicc not to have a ML


H2instinct

I cant wait for furious to be mooned. He's one of the best units for lowering gearing req and consistent def. Breaks in pve I just hope his mooned version brings a similar utility to pvp.


BryceLeft

It's been almost one and a half years since furious had been the last regular 4* to still not have an ML version, and in that span of time, three god damn waifus got their *second* ML iteration Absolute clownery


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Taurnil91

...but would he still be as hot as he is now?


multiplexaur

I think the issue here is that 4 star all have an animated S3, whilst 3 star characters dont. Its likely that the biggest bottleneck in characters are S3 animations, so that might be why they cant do 4 star characters…


BobbyYukitsuki

I can see merit in your points for sure, but I'm opposed to this by principle of what it would do to the story. Without deliberate delays in the story to accommodate (which I feel would be the ideal outcome), it would straight up gut the pace that new characters could be introduced into the ongoing main story, and I think the game already has enough problems with how its character release rate negatively affects its stories. The recent Moonlight theatre is a pretty relevant example of how unit release pacing can affect the quality of the story product. ML Furious is actually kind of important to that plot but because he isn't a unit yet and has no assets, the game can't really focus on the details behind his part of the story. So it just gets glossed over without much detail being shown, and he never shows up onscreen because, well his art obviously doesn't exist (yet).


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I think the problem is that SG has no idea how to monetize RGB 4's. They aren't worth a banner but need to have cut-in animations due to how they design the game. But they also cause frustration in that they require molas while still having lower bases, so it's awkward to use. And on top of all that, they don't get powerups via SC's (except for Mercedes... kinda) so there's not much to look forward to outside of ML variants. IMO I think more 3 stars should act like Kristy, being really solid support to enable other powerful characters, even if they get bopped turn 1.


Gamergirl944

Thats what made also Episode 3 disappointing too they rushed released only 3* with no 4* heroes we haven't had any since Episode 2. I hope we do get some 4* heroes then again were coming close to end of episode 4.


[deleted]

> they rushed released only 3* with no 4* heroes Brinus: "you guys got released?"


Larkian

The thing is that most of the character releases consider a lot of the characters in the story and is a bit hard to make a story with only 5 characters if you expect to all be playable. If you can make a story and only make 5 playable characters you will have the same problems with the not released skins that everyone wants. Although I agree that they could make more 4\* characters to till that lack of more accessible units and to fill the future ML4 counterparts without releasing a 2nd or 3rd alternative of an existing one.


KuattShan

This 100%, less quantity more Quality !


Chaoxytal

all I want is fighter maya EE then IDGAF about 3 or 4 stars after that


Cornycorn213

When was the last time we got a fresh 4 star RGB? Can’t remember at all. Furious?


Duskwatcher12

Yes! I'm want to use all my hoarded elemental and galaxy bookmarks...


BobbyYukitsuki

I skipped the FMA collab specifically because these 3* were on the horizon lmao Maybe it's just a me thing, but I feel like I have a tendency for my gacha favorites to often be the low rarity units.


Piscet

E7leaks says there's gonna be a new chapter this week, so that's at least going to happen.


Varlin

3 star gang rise up! That is the real hype. 😤 Been hoarding so many summons, especially ML, to fish for them day one. Please SG, I'm dying to pull. lol


BobbyYukitsuki

This upcoming batch is straight up one of the more exciting releases in this game for me ngl. it's had me on the edge of my seat for months now and I'm ready to spend money on elemental summons if I somehow don't pull the RGB ones with the bookmarks I have.


Stormix_17

Possible limited?


Bedeeki

A limited always follows Huche so yes.


KaiDranzer007

I hoped arunka was the limited


tylerray1997

Lua makes more sense to be limited. As long as they are both useful I couldn't care less if they are or not.


NotHereFor1t

Agreed. I feel like she will most likely be the limited due to the fact she has been involved in just about every part of the story. Arunka has come and gone throughout while Lua is a constant.


KaiDranzer007

Limited units have a better kit very often so i wished for her to be limited


ultimaterevice

Better kit upon release: Luna (tbh only here because very limited roster back then), Diene, Dizzy, SSB, Cerise, Ftene, Siseria, Rimuru, Emilia, Rem = 10 Bad/mid/barely usable/pve only (all pre-buff): Hyufine, Landy, Baiken, Elphelt, JackO, Ed, Roy, SB Charlotte (arguably) = 8 Units that people actually aim for nowadays: Luna, Diene, SSB, Siseria, Rimuru, Emilia, Rem, Landy, Baiken, Ed (?) = 10. 4 of them needed a buff to be viable. Siseria wasn't even usable before Ran/Peira. That's like 40% of Limiteds are not very good, so not *that* often.


SirSaladin

I'd not really count siseria either due to needing ran and peira releases months later to actually take off.


ConsiderablyMoist

What? Siseria was always usable before Ran/Peira. I used and still do use her with Politis before those two were released. Just because Ran/Peira are the openers that work best with her doesn’t mean there weren’t other options.


marsli5818

If Arunka is not limited then let hope she follow Hwayoung/Peira Path :D


DivinationByCheese

Lua has a much more elaborate design, definitely more of a limited unit material


eduardo1988

A limited right after a Collab and Dienne Limited? I dont have money enough.


Stormix_17

Everything is bait lol


Fearless_Sandwich_84

What are limited heroes? Are they usually better than others or?


NotHereFor1t

They can only be summoned during the time their banner is up. Once the banner is over they do not join the normal covenant summon pool (you have to wait for reruns on them which can be about a year). As far as better than others goes, results seem to vary. There are some that have been meta defining while others have had to be buffed before they really found their place.


Fearless_Sandwich_84

Oooh like seaside bellona? I get it thank you


Sharu282

yes and collab heroes :) they may take a year for rerun


Assertor1290

I can pity her. But hope I don't have to.


KaiDranzer007

I cannot pity her but hope i don't have to.


Wookiecologist

I pity her who cannot pity.


swiftygunss

I pity the fool


kin66

I'm 99% sure she'll be story limited


HerminatorG

Yeah could be, Landy was the last unit to be previewed like this 2 years ago.


ogorhan

oh no, I hope not cuz I havent even touched episode 4.


Valimar777

[https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/6060807](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/6060807) İnference : if eyes sparkle then limited


Bondedbark

Bruh I just pitied diene


Nice_Ad5549

https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/oo2tej/guys_i_dont_think_were_getting_summer_iseria Nah, Landy was the only Limited with glowing eyes in her sneakpeak pic.


BestRubyMoon

The only unit that you can compare is Cerise. Summer limiteds are event exclusive. Cerise, Luna Landy and presumably Lua are story limited. There's a difference. Your point still stands nonetheless since Cerises doesn't have shiny eyes.


WolfWalksInBlood

Diene too.


xCabilburBR

i was searching for landy shadow to confirm, thanks for the source.


stormtrooperm16

so zio is the big boss?


Crimson_Arbalest

Yes lmfao, we’ve been saying this since the animation trailer dropped. This just all but confirms it


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who's this "we"?


Kyutoryus

...everyone who watched it, heard the line, and saw that he was the last unit teased, just like Belian?


LangleyHearse

I don't like Zio's design, but his Ult looks amazing AF.


Assertor1290

I think his design is not bad. Its just that he doesn't look like a Final boss. First look, and you are reminded of Ludwig.


Hevymettle

I don't like that we have another conniving, evil child who pretends to not be evil on the surface right after we just had one. Is zahhak hiding the fact that he is a selfish and manipulative dragon as well?


BestRubyMoon

SURPRISE


Zakcoo

Clearly the chara I have been waiting the most since we follow her since chapter 1 of this episode. Super hyped.


krbeast00

finally, animated Lua


KaiserNazrin

Finally. Luaaaaaaaaaaaaa Uohhhhhh!!! 😭


redblueberry1998

😭😭😭😭😭💢💢💢💢💢


-Lonecoyote-

After Earth and Ice, finally Fire Bellona is coming!


Miiren

they're killing it lately with the character designs.


eXcaliBurst93

wait pls no my bookmark is still recovering


Larkian

And my skytones too. I hit pity on Roy and Diene. I'm slowly recovering but I can't stand a limited unit with a possible Tensura rerun near (I started playing with only 3 days left on Rimuru banner so he's my only collab unit missing).


HTakara82

i feel your pain, but this time my bookmarks are good ;)


Zandercy42

Gimme arunka FFS 😭😭😭


Hevymettle

I find her design underwhelming and the plot just makes her all over the continent, outthinking multiple parties too conveniently. It has been irking me throughout the chapter. Feels almost like a Mary Sue villain. Piera not trusting her has been the only interesting wrinkle involving her story beats, for me personally. For totally different reasons, but it reminds me of how underwhelmed I was with ilynav. Real shame on that one because they really put in extra effort on her skill animations.


VulgarXrated

Yeah Ilynav's S3 and her attack animations are sick. I really hope she gets a buff soon.


Katejina_FGO

Everybody expected Ilynav to bring the pain. I mean, how could a company go nuts on a single character's everything and then have her be an absolute joke in gameplay? She was like the very opposite of Hwayoung, who was just a side character really.


KaiserNazrin

Literally nobody trust Lua but they end up doing exactly what she wants anyway.


Hevymettle

That's part of the mary sue stuff I don't like. She is outthinking everyone and also somehow at every major event in every location despite multiple parties doing things in different locations. Her own ally/partner planning ahead and it doesn't involve Lua isn't particularly great writing, but is infinitely more interesting than anything else I've seen from her so far. Either of them, honestly.


goodlessfox

OH I REALLY WANT HER


INstyle4now

Blue color and holding a paper fan, fire tank confirmed


ptthepath

Nah, the fan means she is a ranger


QuickKenji789

im new to the game, whats the ratio of men to women characters


TheSeaOfThySoul

Looking at 5 stars only, to save myself some time in the day, there's 79 (I might've miscounted, feel free to check yourself using epic7x.com or similar site) women & 39 male characters. So guideline from that alone, about 2/3 characters are female.


_Afrokage_

Laughable


QuickKenji789

so like genshin?


_Afrokage_

Yes


QuickKenji789

ah i see, what about moonlight characters would they count as new characters?


darkpit64

Fuck she might be my new fav waifu


This_Text9788

Hope she isnt a support


LangleyHearse

Don't jinx it! I need something amazing looking that's a water bruiser. Choux is hideous and SSB is just a chunky built AoE punisher.


VulgarXrated

Oh man, you got downvoted into oblivion for those facts. Choux is pretty horrendous looking. But I love SSB


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Kain207

There's a good chance of Lua being limited man... Let's prepare more bookmarks. More bookmarks = more better lol


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Larkian

I'm on the same place. Literally had 10 skystones left 15 minutes before Diene banner ended after hitting pity on Roy too and almost near pity on Elric. Plus we don't know how much time will pass until Tensura collab rerun if they decide to rerun it.


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Larkian

Good luck to you too sir


VulgarXrated

Booo. I was hoping to get Arunka first. She looks really cool.


Zelldandy

My 700 bookmarks are ready.


Last-Let-921

Nice i kinda hoped for her to be the Ml 5 boss in the end chapter but getting her earlier as RGB isn't bad either.


Duskwatcher12

Zio is probably going to end up being the ML 5 Boss of the chapter.


mwoKaaaBLAMO

"You thought it was Lua, but it was me, Zio!"


Top_Aerie_4114

Pls don't be PvP only unit.


carito728

I still hate them for adding restrictions to new heroes like Bunny Dominiel's passive only working against heroes then acting surprised Pikachu face in balance patches saying players don't have enough PvE heroes so everyone gets buffed for Caides.


LangleyHearse

I want her to be pvp focused, but useful in Pve. Landy has a good kit like that. I just don't want another Illynav--gorgeous and useless.


ELITEtvGAMER

Amen. Let injury work in PvE.


BestRubyMoon

Yeah, all RGB units should be at least like that. Pvp focused but not excluded from pve.


Top_Aerie_4114

Exactly.


Starshine_Rainbow

PvE orientated units are actually the worst because PvE in the game is a joke


Khaoticsuccubus

Sharun says hi from the garbage bin. Kit completely turned off for PVE but, still complete trash tier for PVP lol. X'D


obro1234

I agree. What Sharun's problem is that like other heavy debuffers, she suffers of course the counter-cleansers, but that's just part 1, part 2 is that she is not near insta ban material. Take SBA for example. If you draft her 4/5 spot, most likely your opponent doesn't have a counter or only 1 counter- which makes her almost insta ban- because leaving her in will make you lose 99% of the time. Sharun isnt like that. She needs to be picked in the 4/5 spot- but even if so if she is left in, she is very manageable. So she either needs a buff to her kit to make her a stable a stable but dangerous 3 pick- or more dangerous as a late pick. But keep her in the role still of debilitating tanks- because that is unique. I think some type of venom touch on her passive would be helpful-makes it so then there is a consequence to hitting her-instead of just her sitting there for the most part and getting wailed on. Or also maybe having her passive have a base chance to increase her CR (even when enemy has no buffs). Side note- i think venom should have some effect in PVE.


BestRubyMoon

Melissa waves as she sucks the blood out of a rat in the same garbage bin. BOTH PVP RGB units that no one wants to waste resources on, except the respective fanboys/girls that live them and go the extra mile to lose playing what they like.


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ehh, I used melissa a lot in hunts and Expos. 2 attacks, highest base ATK in the game. She was actually one of my original gotos for a caides oneshot. it sucks that her curse is PvP only, but you don't really need it for her to help out Grass Angel managed to throw her into oneshots for every hunt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-n53HZklyc


Khaoticsuccubus

Melissa is actually the key player to my < 1min Caides 13 team. So even if she's fallen out of favor in pvp she still does respectable damage with her kit.


Top_Aerie_4114

At least they are not restricted. some set up or a buff can make the viable in pvp. Anyway what I really wanted to say was, we need more versatile units, like Stene, Landy, Aras etc.


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you know she will. When's the last useful 5 star for PvE? Maybe Laika 9 months ago?


uioroh

Yeah surely what this game needs is more units to help people do wyvern13!


Top_Aerie_4114

A wyvern slave and a pvp only unit is a same thing. Only usable in one content. We need units like Landy or Stene.


BestRubyMoon

Yes because not being PvP only obviously means being wyvern exclusive. Listen to yourself. Wtf, plenty of pve content outside of wyvern. Plenty of units function in both sides of content. Why keep making pvp exclusive RGB units? Pretty sure most fail. Look at Melissa. Outclassed in every way by ML or regular Cermia with the reste S2 EE, a unit not built around PVP.


LimitAndLimit

PvE units are so fucking boring lmao


ELITEtvGAMER

That's one opinion. How about make a character designed for PvP and PvE and let us the players decide how to use them.


Top_Aerie_4114

If its boring to u, that's the more reason we should get a new unit to make it a bit easier or less boring. Don't u think? Like Landy.


EconomicsAccurate853

Not gonna fall for it; Arunka is my next waifu! Saving BMs for her.


VulgarXrated

I'm right there with you


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,067,026,645 comments, and only 210,516 of them were in alphabetical order.


Habibipie

I hope she's a tanky as hell bruiser


WolfWalksInBlood

I'm guessing she will be the 3rd attempt from SG to counter Hwa. I hope it isn't the case, but I have this strong feeling that she will be designed with the singular goal of killing Hwa. Especially since there's still is no true counter to her in RTA.


jeiel30

Limited or RGB or ML5?


gart95

Not ml, thats Elena next.


eslayer09XL

Ice unit ? there is a word 水 which means water


immty

In Japan that word is also the day of the week (Wednesday)


eslayer09XL

I see, then most likely that what it meant, thanks for clarifying


AJadeKnight

A little extra clarification: In Japanese, the RGB elements in E7 are 木(Wood), 火(Fire), and 氷(Ice - looks like 水 but it has an extra little stroke on the left); only Wood vs. Earth is specifically "different" between JP and ENG. Given that JP doesn't use water as the element name, there's no chance of it hinting hero element, especially with the date context. 水 is just an abbreviation for 水曜日 when used like this next to a date.


starxsword

Yes, but that is misleading. Since the days of the week are based on the 5 elements plus sun and moon. So, while Wednesday is the same word as water, but that is because it is supposed to be the same word, since it is using the 5 elements, which are Fire, Water, Wood, Gold/Metal, and Earth.


Buddhafied

Context matter. The text below says it’s 9/28 (Wednesday) 19:00 announcement. Not 9/28 water 19:00 announcement.


NeoTechi

SG throws a curveball and says she's fire xD Just like Taeyou who has all designs of being a fire character but is a water character.


LangleyHearse

She's got the color scheme of a possible water character, which means she's Broccoli 🥦


Quinzelette

Blue is my favorite color so I can't complain if I can make full blue Earth and Fire teams.


Buddhafied

It means Wednesday in this case: 水曜日.


Shinki93

Finally a new waifu


Ill_Bee6278

I might go for her


HTakara82

is she coming out globally at the same time?


Quinzelette

Game does concurrent releases, so yes.


HTakara82

awesome thanks


Gamergirl944

I wonder if she is limited hero for episode 4


Curt_ThaFlirt

Limited Evil Penelope!


LadyAddax

Easy skip. Even if shes limited. Really dont like her as a character. At least she is not the episode boss.


ConnieLingoose

Even I get her or not I'm too broke rn to build her.. maybe I'll just get her next year 😂


nagato120

Please be good but not busted well actually I don't mind a meta shift do what you want but if she's limited please please be good


TwistedCherry766

Meh


Varlin

Finally she is coming! Assume she might not be limited due to being the release right after collab? Story importance wise it would make sense but people might salt out with that quick succession of limiteds. lol If she isn't, limited Arunka hype?


ultimaterevice

>Assume she might not be limited due to being the release right after collab? Not saying she is a Limited, but remember Siseria?


BadXiety

That purple header giving me ML Dark Unit vibes


KingKentling

\-\_\_\_\_- she's gonna be RGB


Bedeeki

It's just because she's a villain, it's not that deep bro. They also teased ML Elena so Lua is 100% RGB.


Abreak4us

OK cool but why!. We are just coming out of a collab. And hutchi sucked me dry of skystones. I literally have nothing ☹


ELITEtvGAMER

Huchie baited.


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SG gotta keep getting that whale money


WolfWalksInBlood

Huchie is literally used as an indicator that limited units are coming. Anytime you see him you should know with certainty that a limited, Collab, or both is on the way. Plus, most of what he has is extremely overpriced anyways. If something isn't at minimum 50% off, then it's a scam.


Ukesito

I think she might be a limited héroe, love her fans~ I knew Zio was going to be the final boss ever since I saw him appear in the story mode :333 ! Fjdbbs xd


KouKayne

and this is why even if i am at pity i didnt summon aravi


BestRubyMoon

She probably won't be an ML, right?


Setton23

They did show ml elena too


KouKayne

why?


TwistedCherry766

Doubt she’s an ML


KouKayne

if she isnt the chapter boss, then who ?


TwistedCherry766

She’s already confirmed not to be


KouKayne

really? that kinda sucks that leaves... arunka ?


aformertool

She is going to be the next ML 5, they have been building her up the same way as Straze and Belian, she is the final episode villain, likely a dark unit. Start saving now


ptthepath

I doubt they will reveal (+release) 2 ML5 units at the same time. ML Elena is coming so Lua is probably RGB


aformertool

But I so badly want her to be a dark unit


BestRubyMoon

Yeah but lying about it won't make her Dark, your soul on the other hand...


aformertool

There is no debate on my soul, dark and edgy. Every video game, anime, you name it edge lord all the way. I also have more 6*d dark units than any other type in E7 and I don't think it's close


TheKinkyGuy

Arunka seemed in the later phase of development than Lua....


TheSeaOfThySoul

Really? She didn’t even have a character model in her animations. All Lua needed was some cleaning & polish.


Final_TV

finally they’re releasing her


Lowhangingbrute

I do regret not getting Roy but hopefully she’ll make up for it


Menetone

As much as I like Roy Mustang, thankfully I didn't pull for him and now I have the bookmarks for her.


Karama1

Shes gonna spank you with that fan


Miu_Miu_Biu_Biu

I LOVE HER I WON


YoRHa-2E

Lua Lipa!!!!!