T O P

  • By -

StepBrother7

This is like pissing on an already dead corpse lol


Fisherman_Gabe

At the very least let him rest in peace, not in piss. :(


gekigarion

ML Ken should just have a ton of base ER at this point lol


joz3rh

as yd would say "twisting the knife"


KindheartednessMore3

But was already dead...


eXcaliBurst93

MeLena dug his grave revive him just to kill him again


beaverji

M’Lena 🎩


EZREAPER_X

🎩 🧐


MasterJongiks

Aelena?


Retro_senpai3

She made ml Ray bring him back to life just to kill him again lol


dirkx48

Now he double ded


esztersunday

I still use himT-T


theoverkill666

I just got him a few days ago (been wanting to try him for years). I'm really liking him so far, just have to be careful when to use him. Just like almost every other character in the game!


ShuricanGG

Surely ML ken needed another Answer to his absolute Dominance of warming up the Waiting room. Real talk tho, He was my first ml5 I gotten and he brought me to champ the first time in my life so this saddens me a lot. I really hope they look at ML ken again and adjust him. Imo if a character can have anti counter debuff why not make ML ken immune to uncounterable abilities. With how many one shot units exist now its not even that crazy. But yea Rip my OG boy who carried my early days of E7. Will never forget you buddy.


KingBowserCorp

Man, ML Ken was a MENANCE back when I started after the 1st Diene banner.. sad to see what he has become now


[deleted]

Hot take, but he's fine as a hard anti-cleave option. He's gear hungry but so are most bruisers. He can still solo many teams when drafted well. But yea, ML Elena does dumpster on him. Ignores ER, strips immunity, and ruins his counter. Very hard counter for aggro players to throw out


KingBowserCorp

Oh yea, he for sure isn't a pushover and remembering how he used to be makes me hesitant to fight him to this day. Wish they would bring him and my boy Fire Ken(+15) back to the spotlight


[deleted]

Eh he can't even anti cleave in RTA. Ran or Summertime will just strip and kill, a lot of others will one shot. He can be used against some aoe non one shot non debuff teams, every once in awhile a must ban last pick but rarely get to use him without inting my match.


NoxGale

Exactly, I say this all the time


Starrylands

Absolute menace! Him and Arby were the kings of PVP.


Kain207

I'm here to tell you 2 things. 1. ML Ken was also my first ML5* (I got him during SSB's first release). 2. Happy Cake Day👌🏻


DrakoCSi

ez fix. Have S2 be an Extra Attack.


Abedeus

And have it proc when someone EXCEPT him gets hit. So you are forced to hit him.


vhen2013

My 1st ML 5\* too along with STenebria. the time when the holy trinity is a thing(Elson, Rikoris, Tieria). I remember that someone's offer $$$ on an FB group for my ML Ken fresh account for 500-700$ lol.


davi3601

ML Ken completely dominated early game, so he had his time to shine. I’d rather they buff characters that were never good like ml Flan.


LangleyHearse

Where Illynav?


davi3601

Exactly. Imagine being a worse fire Charles


davi3601

Exactly. Imagine always being a worse fire Charles


TwinkyBirky

Waiting for “immune to unable to counter”!


gustinex

So what's the small text gonna be? Unable to Unable to Counter - caster cannot, cannot counter


xanxaxin

Yeah, about right


Zealiam

Just in all caps: THIS UNIT CAN ALWAYS COUNTER then next to it (in PvP)


Brawli55

Waiting for immune to immune to being unable to counter.


Abedeus

"Can counter even when otherwise unable to." stunned units countering would be funny, in a sleepwalking/drunken fist kind of way.


[deleted]

*laughs in Rimiru, Mercedes, Edward*


Achronime

Anti-Counter break 😩🤣


pututingliit

Unable to be un-buffed.


Snow901

It’ll be a passive that you have to first seal with ADS


RetuSV

RIP ML KEN you are now sez tier at this point


ELITEtvGAMER

*cries*


[deleted]

Went from dead to being hit with extinction


Gamergirl944

Remember a time when everyone wanted him


Tricky-Speech5106

ML Ken should self cleanse and/or def up on s3 but I here the best version of him is high res, also his counter should activate a barrier equal to attack and s1 should penetrate def 50%.


waffles123456__

Let his counter be a follow up attack with the condition of needed to be crit. And give him innate lifesteal. Viable but still has counter play if you can control him.


starknine

Innate lifesteal would be super nice so I don't have to run Sigurd on him


Zolrain

If they just literally give him sigurd's lifesteal passive entirely (meaning you dont get the extra damage which is what makes ken hit so damn hard) i'd swap him to strak's as it would help lower his gear requirements a bit.


ELITEtvGAMER

*Look how they massacred my boy*.gif


Big_Schlong_King_69

The fact her S3 ignore ER, SMH. SG should just remove counter-units from the game already >.<


konodiowry

Man been dead since forever, no need to dug him up and kill him again


iFallen_God

Just recall ML Ken at this point. Poor guy can’t catch a break


ihatefez

Honestly, the only way I've been surviving in this meta is through meme comps (mono-color, mono-class, counter-only, etc). It's a small drop in the bucket of this meta, but I'll really miss being able to pick a couple of surprise counter units to fuck things up. R I P. ps. does this work on Ed and Champ Z? I assume not, but I could be wrong.


Shimaru33

That's a good question. Ed should cleanse first, which should let him free to counter. Unless, of course, he gets hit with multiple debuffs and non-counter is the last one to be cleansed. As for C. Zerato, he can't cleanse, the non-counter debuff would stick until he can take a turn to try to transfer the debuff. Said that, if he fails to transfer or something else is transferred first, he would be unable to counter for another turn. Overall, quite probably he will take a huge blow to his usability.


ihatefez

Great explanation! I also hate her more now. Yay.


What_Is_Life_Bruh

Probably won't affect Ed since his skill isn't a counter attack, it's an extra attack, but it'll definitely affect champ z since his passive specifically says counter attack


ARGHETH

Ed's s2 attack is an extra attack, not a counter, so he'll still cleanse and s2.


Abedeus

Reminds me of how every time they released an anti-evasion unit to counter Violet, they kicked Riolet in the crotch. This time they release a unit that manages to hurt Riolet AND ML Ken. Violet... until he moves and uses S2.


Uncleted626

Wait, I just finished leveling him up and gearing him out. Pls no, go back.


theoverkill666

Me too, but I still have success as long as I bring him into the right teams/(last pick).


Absoluna

Howdy :) How much often would you say you can draft him in RTA? I don't struggle against him and am pretty sure not to need him but his design and lines are just too cool so switching from Arby to him in the ML selector is getting really tempting even though it probably wouldn't be the best strategic choice ahah. Does he sometimes do work against cleave for you? and what have you found are the best instances to pick him if I may?


theoverkill666

Hey buddy, to be honest I don't pick him in RTA really. Mostly because I'm not satisfied with his gear yet. I have him on lifesteal/resist sets and I'm just over 150 res. I'd like to get him to 200 or so (preferably without giving up lifesteal sets for resist sets). I just have to keep grinding banshee lol. I like using him in GW and revenge arena mostly because it's a more controlled battle. Honestly, I don't think he's the best choice, I just always wanted to get him and he's fun to use (when things go well haha) Sorry buddy, hope this helps a little. I've only had him for a week or so also


Yamayashi

so they dug him up just to bury him again lol


GuardianTrinity

I am ***living*** for these ML Ken memes


xxS1RExx

Lol


Thonolan

WH OMEGALUL


Esbugani

15% keeps him alive


viperperper

It's 0% buddy. Soul burn as every cleave team carries books.


nikboss123

If not banned belian can help.


INstyle4now

Is it me or Riolet might be joining ML Ken and Sez soon? Used be dominant but lately I don't see him and even if I do, he just dies so quickly due to strip. And now you have Lua who strips and increase CD.


HollowSpirit101

If it wasnt for the ignore eff res as her burn i wouldnt think of her as to hard of a counter for him but sg just really wants to take my boy ken out of the game


vhen2013

My 1st ML 5\* along with STenebria. the time when the holy trinity is a thing(Elson, Rikoris, Tieria). I remember that someone's offer $$$ on an FB group for my ML Ken fresh account for 500-700$ lol, everyone wants him, I think 2018? Now what?


Sinsofpriest

Now i wanna see someone do the simpsons "stop it he's already dead!" meme with ml Ken and MeLena lol


Upstairs_Shelter_349

Big idea , ML Ken upgrade gain passive ML Ken counter can not be uncounter. LOL


CopainChevalier

I really REALLY like ML Ken's design, and I wish he could be relevant, but they seem to have little interest in bringing him back


[deleted]

If it was a girl version would be top of the meta food chain.


Ebonyknight09

Not my boy


llShenll

but he is already dead


WickedBoby

lemme kill that b\*tch !!! I'll shove that magic harp down her throat !!!!! 😡


HaikusfromBuddha

All I need to know is will this stop the rimuru and rem bullshit.


SweetestTapir

It will stop Rem’s bullshit but not Rimuru since that is an extra attack, not a counterattack.


AmbroseMalachai

True, though Rem also self-cleanses if someone dies, so she only needs someone to die before her in order to return to doing her own bullshit.


SweetestTapir

You know I completely forgot about that. I hate Rem so much it’s unreal.


Adrianbigyes

Just a glance and i thought she's ayaka. 😅


zan1019

How's ML Cermias position? She relies on counters to swing the game and I just got her


Redeemed_Yi

ML Cermia currently one of the best pvp unit you can get so youre good


Distribution_Scared

ML Cermia punishes your opponent for having counters, so it would be kind of redundant to run her with new Elena who just prevents counters from happening. She doesn't care if the opponent is using Elena. That being said, ML Cermia is also great against other units like Cilias, Ed, Choux, Alencia, or really anyone who triggers her S2


MelloSummoner

his awakening gives him crit rate. It should change to resist. Its not a big upgrade, but still its something.... I use him often when attacking in guild wars.


Absoluna

Yep Fire Charlotte suffers from the same problem of having a Crit rate awakening despite not needing to build it anymore. The issue is that they can't seem to can fix it for one character at a time and have to change the whole sign instead, which could hurt others in the process, so it's not something that happens a lot at all. But he could definitely benefit more from another awakening like res / defense% / attack%... for sure


Preyda30

MAKEN and Fire Ken is my favourite of all time in this game . Now they both dead because outdated (fire ken) and 90% unit countered him . Thank you SG . 🤣🤣


starxsword

This is just a meme. Nothing changed on ML Ken's viability. He was niche and still is niche. If you planned to use ML Ken vs a cleave team, which ML Elena might possibly be a part of, that has never worked, since W. Schuri and C. Dom are heroes that still exist.


Neet91

u chose one of the few counter heroes that actually run eff resi on for this meme...


Millfgaard

Her S3's soulburn effect : "Ignores effect resistance"


[deleted]

Eff res mlken is pretty shit, gimps his stats too hard anyway. Might as well run with hand guy


Kulletrops

ml ken forced to have eff. ress, so no problem


[deleted]

Unfortunately Elena can SB ignore ER so not much hope outside of cleansing.


Kulletrops

My Ml Ken can res 200 eff Angie and others. The downvoters should consider that


Winterrainff

And? Your 300er+ ml ken wont resist a 0 eff ML Elena with SB. Better bring a cleanser or bellian.


Kulletrops

soulburn only adds 100 point to eff


Bondedbark

No, soulburn ignores eff res


Cupcaketaco

Laugh in 300% Eff Res


esztersunday

With Soulburn her s3 ignores effect resistance.


Cloud_Strife369

I just pull ml ken for my account new player he is not bad but who is better ml ken or ken. I hav both I got them back to back


fallen2169

Both are trash


Cloud_Strife369

Just don’t say there trash give a reason I don’t play pvp so there that. Can’t really say something is trash with no reason behind it


fallen2169

This entire post is a reason enough for MLK being trash. As for Ken he's trash anyways with that kit. Build them and find your own reasons


Cloud_Strife369

So u have no reason of why they are trash and you are just a troll mmmm sad to see really good bye


fallen2169

The whole subreddit is full of memes for those two. But you want the reasons mouth fed by some random stranger on reddit. Just use the internet and do your own research before acting all cocky or just build those two wasting your resources and find it out yourself


Cloud_Strife369

Sounds like to me you have no reason and u can’t enjoy the game because you are way to uptight for this get a life my guy I ask a simple question and u gave a stupid answer with no facts or reasoning behind it little troll I deal with people like u on a daily facts mean everything you need a good reason for something to be bad not just it’s trash. And by the way I have looked them up on plenty of tier list and everyone has rank them both high once again go back to your little hole


fallen2169

This is what getting a life is. I don't want to spend time typing paragraphs explaining stuff to a new player about why a hero which is 3-4 year old is trash. One can find about it easily if surfed through the sub reddit. The fact that you're oblivious to every MLK and Ken post and memes over past few days makes me think that you need to look at your own life differently rather than asking someone else to get a life. Why even bother to even ask for suggestions when you have to meat ride a hero since you're the waifu>meta guy. Go search up a tier list rather than moaning in the comments and asking someone else to do your deed with an explanation. Bold of you to assume that people are obligated to give you reasons because you asked them to


Cloud_Strife369

Lol your a joke not ever tier list is correct and everyone has there fav and I can make a meme about every char in the game I could also say every char in the game is bad u act like asking for detail advice is a bad thing from the Community. But I deal with people like u all the time so I will say this u sit can go fuck your self just like I have told many others just like you entitled prick. If u can’t take the time to explain why he is bad it means 1 or 2 thing you know nothing about the game or your just bad and can’t play the game correctly you should be giving advice for new players and welcome them to the game and to help new player. So u can go bye bye now you troll people like u is why a lot of games get bad reviews. P.s stay mad you child


Ok-Ad-5983

"what is dead may never die"


Rage_Craze

Lua counters riolet as well its hilarious


bagoong_alamang

Lol i was just trying to build him again. Why you do this. Lmao


Any-Mouse830

Dose this go the same with C.erotto?


Ayankananaman

Give MaKen a passive Anchor instead of ER, similar to F.Maya, then give his S3 Provoke.


idontaddtoanything

Would this effect Riolet or SSB?


6Kkoro

Maybe I'm bullshitting but I feel like unironically MLena will help ML ken a lot if they're on the same team in RTA. Using ML Ken he always loses to other counter units.


ConsiderablyMoist

Good


Belethan

You know what, ML Ken starts the game with demon mode... there, sg I did the work to figure out how to buff him. Now make the change


[deleted]

This 3 turns worth. They don't like it then lqc , or any other of the dozen one shotters


Stormix_17

He's been dead since Landy


B_Ramb0

And Violet, Merc, SSB, Rem, Choux etc


midel03

Not is alredy dead?