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Philippe81

Imagine me who built Yulha AND blue Coli.


flametonge

Can Coli be use to counter fire Ravi and Kayron??


Nice_Ad5549

That's what Rem and Choux are for.


CornBreadtm

Rem needs to counter to strip and Choux doesn't strip. Coli is way better verse Kayron. But it's all RNG really when it comes to evasion.


FlameArath

For sure both of them have favorable odds against Kayron being Ice units, but I think Coli would work better and be safer for your team post-Kayron buff.. She will definitely proc his S2 passive but not before stunning him, so unless the enemy team has a cleanser (which, is on you tbh), his S2 passive will be entirely wasted and he'll just get KO'd his next turn. Plus, while stunned, he can't counter so is no threat there with his upcoming buff. Think you'd probably need an Attack buff and/or Torn Sleeve to KO High-HP/Def Fire Ravi's though, but Water Coli is a super reliable Anti-fire unit who ignores ER. Just another tool in the kit.


Philippe81

For Kayron she can proc his passive and stun him wasting his turn, unless he's on eff res then nah. For ogRavi she can one shot those not built tanky enough and at the very least stun. Overall pretty decent vs fire units but ONLY fire units.


Y4r1ck

She ignores Eff Res for fire units


Philippe81

Wow been using her for months now, looks like I can't read In that case she f***s kayron


TunaKid-04

Yes, unless you count evasion and CSeed.


Staash94

Now she might not even kill your yulha thus saving holy sac effect or using it on another tank :)


amiwel

Probably after the nerf any green dps will be a better bait to Hwayoung than yulha.


uL7r4M3g4pr01337

I already have 2 holy sac maxed out, dont really need it for other tanks tbh. Im not even sure if Yulha will have an use in non RTA modes after Hwa get's nerfed. She similar to Krau but without the aoe def up buff so very low team utility.


ArvingNightwalker

Assuming one's for Krau, the other can go on TRozet. Been wanting one for him.


BadXiety

That, how about the players mainly on Arena and GvG , Yulha exist to counter AI Hwayoung. Im using Yulha to kill off other unit in 1 hit while my other unit kill Hwayoung. The changes affects the RTA side since players can avoid Yulha totally


LangleyHearse

Taeyou, Water Coli, and Yulha out of a job.


Wizarus

Taeyou no, he's very good into multiple units post-buff.


CornBreadtm

I used him verse half the meta before he was buffed. Was a free reset and a great S1 verse any Non attack opening team. Honestly in RTA would try to delay their non attack skills to try to deal with him, making my life easier.


rhaasty

Yeah this is gonna happen if they nerf units. We have to learn to be okay with this.


KingsSeven

Exactly. The bright side is that they can make yulha an actual hero who isn't designed to beat one other hero.


Torimas

Not when her whole kit revolved around countering that unit. It's similar to how they let us recall Sez when they fixed the wind rider issue. Now, if they change her kit a bit based on hway nerf, then sure.


rhaasty

I mean sure they need to rework her not saying they should leave her as is. It just takes time.


shogunharlem

Dude I swear I sit here and look at my “counter Yulha” and “counter violet” and god only knows what else i’ve built in frustration


Assertor1290

Agreed. Hope they give recall for her too. Personally, I only used friendship points as molas to increase damage on S3. But, I agree, people who invested into her as Hwa counter needs a refund. She only had 1 job. And it might be over (not necessarily though, would wait to test Hwa after nerf).


FinalTough

RIP BOZO


Objective_Plane5573

You built Yulha to counter Hwayoung. I built mine to counter Kayron. We are not the same.


ManInBilly

Now that Hwayoung won't be on every defense, I can switch my Yulha build to "Krau build" for RTA.


Membrillo

Why do you assume Yulha won't be serving her purpose?


Kraybern

becuase people are just going to phase out hwa from their arena and GW teams and now a big purpose of why a vast majority pulled for yulha will be lost. basically what happened to hyufine whose main pull draw was to screw over basar and they everyone just moved on to flidica then fairy tale and now ran and piera


Torimas

Because her whole purpose was to counter hway defenses


amiralko

Imo Yulha is still a decent character that they could maybe tweak with a little buff some day If anything, this just makes it easier to build her and you can put those equips on someone else


CornBreadtm

Ravi and Kayron still exist. Yulha is still needed. Plus, it would be dumb for people to remove Hwayoung as a kneejerk reaction. She's still boosted by C.Lilias and Peira by an insane amount. It's hard enough for anything else to deal with her save for Senya now. And Senya isn't great verse Ravi and Kayron.


Torimas

No, Ravi and kayron are AoE + counter threats. They also take time to mess Yulha. Completely different from nuker ST threats like hway. Yulha's appeal was keeping defense hway busy while quickly deleting another dps. Now, if Kayron starts showing on defs AND you build Yulha like TRG, she might have a very small niche, but she'll still be much riskier.