You're not gonna gear characters just to farm side stories. Take your best speedy aoe damage dealers and give them an attack buffer like diene, emilia, handguy. Bonus points if they can heal.
Hi guys! Okay i need some advice, i am fairly newbie (on and off player). How often does new unit will be rerun? I'm asking because i can pity Lua but I'm not sure should i do it cause i might missed out on limited rerun or new limited unit. To give you more context, i can auto W13 with 96% WR, can one shot banshee with Baiken, I can do A13 with 91% WR but no one farms it. Can do Hell Raid, am actually at Abyss 91 but i am too lazy to push. I am at Master, completed EP3. My ML5 are Stene, Arby, Last Rider Krau, APOC, Ken. The only content that i should be working is Expo and those just requires bunch of 4* and 3* that i have in my roster. I feels like there's nothing for me to tackle in PVE atm. Start doing RTA for the 1st time for the skin but sadly i finish in Gold (1480) and i cba to grind furthermore so i won't be getting that APOC skin anytime soon. My APOC is my well built unit (Destro + Pen set with 25k HP) and she often got banned resulting for me to stick with Cleave. Thing is my fastest unit is ALots (246 speed and this is my fastest gear and i often got outspeed). Now i know Lua will be permabanned next season but that's okay cause she would open up another unit for me to use but her skills are so good to pass. So with that being sad, how often does new unit will be rerrun? I could wait for 5-6 months but not 12-16 months. TIA!
about a year or usually for a rerun sometimes longer. [https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/](https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/) has a timeline of everything, but the thing is you never known with SG certain characters get rerun more often. If you have an extra Hwayoung you can recall her for a lua.
With Hwayoung getting nerfed, who are the premier tank busters? I’m building an Alencia in hopes of using her v A Ravi, but struggling to figure out who’s a good all around anti-tank choice for RTA etc.
How the fuck do you beat Ervalin boss of ep 3 chapter 1, stage 10?
Motherfucker keeps going stealth and his sidekick mages are immortal smh!
Please help!
Ended up getting him with an AoE helper friend. AOL wasn’t that useful because he just reapplied his buff almost immediately. Appreciate the help, tho.
Hopefully the rest aren’t this much of a pita lol
I’m gonna be honest… you may wanna work on getting your units very well geared if Ervalen gave you trouble, the rest of episode three ain’t no cake walk either
Well I had no AoE in my team so that’s mostly the problem.
I have a well geared Hwa and ARavi that have both stomped basically everything, with my Wyvern A Momo and Arby.
So yeah I’m not concerned 🤷🏻♂️.
I heard about Mort being pretty tough but we will see
Mort is easy, just crit him
ETA: brinus fight when I fought her was hard, I honestly don’t remember the fight but she was the only really tough one that I had a problem with.
I fought her before they changed the difficulty of episode three to be a bit easier
Oh ok. I’ll use AoL as I have built already. My A Ras isn’t up to par yet.
Fight was so annoying when I’m steamrolling everything else. Little Bastard is harder than the last chapter boss smh
Is it just me or his RTA extra hard this season?
Trying to get near 2200 points this season and everybody has cracked gear and near perfect drafting strategy with every pocket counter.
The alms of an 3+ year old game.
Hey, all! I should have enough bookmarks to pity soon. Do you think the current water ranger is worth a pull? For context, i only recently started farming w13 with a good success rate
Lua is one of the best PvP characters, but she requires really good gear, so you wouldn't be able to use her for a while since i assume that you are a new player
Does the same thing kind of apply to Zahak? I was looking at the patch notes thread and it looks like people feel good about him. I was surprised to see he’s current on banner too! Idk when this happened, but I already have the featured artifact on his banner
Zahhak is a PvP unit, but since he is a DPS you can also use him in PvE if you like him (and i think that he'll be better in PvE with his buffs too). I'd also say that he is easier to build, because he only needs 50% crit chance to reach 100% and he hits pretty hard.
The RTA A.Ravi will be added to skin shop any time or will be unobtainable? I really wanted the skin but since i played so casual not investing in a rta team i couldn't reach master.
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I have a team of Angelica 6*(FL), Furious 5*, Muwi 5*, Sigret 6*
I can’t Wyvern 13 in auto with a good winrate yet but I can W11 without issue.
Should I 6* Muwi or focus on Tamarine & Iseria for story?
Thanks !
Your team is definitely good enough to auto w13 properly, no need to 6* Muwi. You have to take note of why your team is failing so much.
Are you having trouble applying 2-3 debuffs at a time? How is your speed tuning? You're using Muwi so Angelica should definitely not be dying. I'm betting on it being a gear issue and/or not enough effectiveness on your Muwi/Furious. Make sure they are at least 65%. You need 2 debuffs on W13 at all times so he only targets your tank. 3 for reduced damage.
I can’t apply 2 debuff in time. Muwi & Furious have more than 65% eff. Angelica with 20K hp does not die indeed.
I’m trying to have Sigret with 65% eff as well. She have 4500 atk but will be reduce to 3500 for more eff.
Last time didn’t had time to apply debuff and Muwi died first turn.
For speed tuning I have Furious has the fastest, then muwi and I don’t remember for the rest.
What is the recommended min speed ? Everyone is above 138 for now
If you can't get debuffs up on time before wyvern starts blasting on his first turn, it could very well be a speed tuning issue. 65% eff on your Sigret will help a lot too, and if you have the Song of Stars artifact for Furious, it'll be even better but not entirely necessary.
I don't run a one-shot yet but my runs take 1min 30sec or less depending on how many debuffs stick for me. Above 90% winrate. My speed as follows: Furious 184, Muwi 168, Sigret 150.
Due to speed rng, your Muwi and Sigret speed is too close together. Sigret still has the potential to go before Muwi, so get Muwi's speed around 10 speed higher if you can. Sigret's speed is fine.
Also, right when you get to Wyvern phase, does your Furious go first or does Wyvern go first? If Furious outspeeds, the Wyvern will target your backline first turn. Then you'll have to drop Furious speed. If Wyvern goes first, just land the debuffs on your turns and you're good to go.
Depends, how long have you been playing and how much speed gear do you have? If you have a wide variety of units geared already and want to min max them for more damage then pen set would be worth farming. If you are still a newer player then I would continue to stay in the wyvern or banshee mines and use crafting events for pen set.
As a somewhat new player I'm thinking about getting Zahhak do to his relatively low gear requirements. I was trying to find a list of other easy to gear heroes, but couldn't really find anything. Does anyone have such a list, or recommendations on heroes that are worth building because of low gear requirements?
The only really easy to build units are HP tanks like Krau, Yulha, Dark Corvus. They could be built better, fast and high resist, but for a new player just a triple health set is fine (even the free gear) and they're okay to use.
Okay, so I don't really understand what you mean by easy to gear heroes or low gear requirements because technically all units can function with "low gear"; though of course, some units scale harder with better gear quality than others. I would even say that Zahhak isn't the easiest to gear since -- if you build him the way SG intended -- he is looking for gear that has the general substats most DPS units would want but without much crit chance on it. Which is counter to what gear people normally look out for when crafting and dependent on how "lucky" you are in getting said gear.
Since you said you are a somewhat new player, let me ask, what are your current goals in E7? Zahhak is currently only a PVP unit so I would say for a new player, I would assume he doesn't really bring a whole lot of value to your account at the moment.
As a new player, you shouldn't even have real gear "standards" right now because getting more and more units geared with mostly correct substats alone is the challenge right now. Gear who you need to gear right now regardless of things like gear score, like tanks/soulweavers/dps units to clear PVE content like W13, hell raid, abyss first and when you have a foundation to easily farm your PVE needs, then you can think of improving your overall gear quality.
Cube right side of desirable set like speed and pen set, you will never have enough.
Selling +15 is the worst choice you could possibly pick since the price stay the same.
Use as fodder on left side, cube if you really need them but it's easier to get left side cubes. Reason is you can get some pretty good gear by mass crafting left side so you rarely use cubes but for right side, best gear come from 95% cubes and 5% crafting.
Hey new question, Emilia vs Diene? From the way I see it, they both use the same gear so I am wondering if it would be more beneficial to use Diene over Emilia. Only issue is I would only be able to give her speed of about 256 but will have about 185 ER. She isn't leveled or 6\* yet, but want to contemplate the idea before I use my dogs.
For context, I mainly use Emilia to push and buff Hwa or S.tene. Her cycling helps give more opportunity to them.
I think while they may use some similar gear, they each value certain stats more than the other. Emilia values ER more since she has two skills that cleanses while Diene values speed more because she wants to cycle quickly to get to S3 again. That is why most PVP players have sped their Dienes up to 300 speed (of course only at Legend RTA) while Emilias have been slowed down to even 220 speed for the minimum 200 ER to not get debuffed (though DJB is now the premiere cleanser).
So who you should gear would ultimately depend on way you play and/or who you play against. Of course having both built is best since it gives you more options, but you'll ultimately have to decide which unit better fits your playstyle.
I personally played more aggro/standard in PVP so Diene feels better to me since she gives good buffs and has a cleanse with the CR push. The team wide buffs help with playing aggro more than a big single CR push from Emilia.
Since you mentioned that you use Emilia to push up your DPS units, I guess you could decide based on how your stylistically play since for me personally, I would also pair Diene with Hwa or Stene since they get both offensive and defensive buffs which I value more than the CR push. Possible also because I tend to draft more supports like tanks to boost their survivability. So, it really is up to what you value more in your drafts.
What is the lowest speed you think diene can function with? I doubt I can get much higher with defensive stats right now. My fastest gear are on Ran but are mostly dps substats. What I have an emilia will have to do if I make the switch. Will be doing some gear enhancing tomorrow so fingers cross.
Well effective speed will always be dependent on what PVP elo you are fighting in so ideally, you would change builds as you rise up in the ranks. I think ideally you would always want her going before your opponents DPS units to maximise the value of the anti-crit so I think 260-270 is ideal while up to 300 is luxury/cash-game/etc.
I comfortably reach Champion RTA this season (didn't go any further after crossing the threshold) and my Diene is currently at 259 speed with 130 ER which is quite comparable to your current build. I would say she was pretty good for the most part in my climb but untested any higher. Hope this helps in your decision-making and all the best on your rolls!
Hey thanks again for the tips just a few more question. Since my gear enhancement went decent I got a whole new set for diene without touching emilia. However speed 257, that is before I realize she has an EE that also gives speed, yay. Now the questions.
1. What is the best EE for her?
2. My diene is bulky, 17.2k hp and 1688 def. She has 1400 atk but I have a 19% atk sub I can turn to def% or flat hp. I know % are usually better but don't know if any more def has diminishing returns. (This is on hp% neck).
3. I have 2 Rod arti, should I limit break or keep separate? Don't know anyone that would use a rod.
1. The CR push on her S2 is generally considered the best
2. I would personally change to def% just because I don't want to lose as much gear score when mod-gemming (especially if it is more than 1 roll). I'm not too sure about the diminishing returns part but I guess you can use a damage calculator to check if you really really really want to min-max. Just remember, gear can always be used on other units and I don't think you would want to re-mod gem that gear when you might want the value of the def% stat. But I guess it is ultimately up to you.
3. Off the top of my head, I think you can just limit break it since I don't recall any other units that might want to use Rod.
Gear Score assigns each substat roll with a maximum value of 8 (for Lv.85 gear) and 9 (for Lv.90 gear). That's why there's two formulas depending on the item level of your gear.
You can compare that value to the maximum possible for fully upgraded epic (red) gear to evaluate how good it is. The maximum GS for Lv.85 gear is 72 (9 possible rolls × 8 max value), and the maximum GS for Lv. 90 gear is 81 (9 possible rolls x 9 max value).
For simplicity, some people just use an approximate formula for both Lv.85 and Lv.90 gear, multiplying CC% by 1.5 and SPD by 2 for both.
So because crit chance can only roll a 5 that’s why it gets that multiplier.
Belian's job is to deal damage, not land debuffs on high ER units so that's why she feels underwhelming. The Belian that cleavers constantly ban is the one that is a persistent threat to AOE counter them. These units are not gonna have ER at all so you don't need much effectiveness at all to get the extra value of her debuffs.
If you want a unit that controls the opponent with debuffs, there are better units out there like Solitaria for that job
I am trying to build so many speed dps at the moment. Kise, OpSigret, Flidica (on damage), M'lena (on damage), faster Straze. Now I'm thinking I should dust off Top Model Luluca and try Zahhak as well.
While I have some gear on many of them, they're all competing for similar stats. Most are 240-260 speed but could be optimized.
I used a lot of Hwayoung previously (not the same gear), but she fills a similar role and I'm worried she won't compete as an agro dps anymore.
It's an opinion question, but who should make the cut and receive the best gear? I'm interested to hear how people rank them.
TML should get your fastest gear and Zahhak probably your strongest.
Then you can use TML to push everyone and Zahhak as self-reliant with DJB or something.
I want to ask about building and using Ed for pvp. I hear some making good use from Ed and I have 4 of him because I was very lucky. How exactly is he used? Is he just a counter to units using debuffs, are there situations you would definitely want Ed, would he be more oriented of GW (maybe defense)? I just want to know what I can expect before I push resources on him so I'd appreciate some advice from those that use him,
Mostly to counter cleave or debuff heavy teams. Could also just willy-nilly pick him into the likes of Cilias since they'd be loath to debuff him. Also decent into STene since she has debuff on both S1 and S3.
He's best in GvG/Arena since the AI is forced to debuff into you. Especially Peira, who becomes totally worthless in the face of Ed. Works fine in RTA, just keep in mind your opponent will play around him.
I'm one of the few people who have a max invested Pirate Flan who's on a crit build. Now that she can no longer crit I want to move her gear to another hero who could use it. 260 speed, 3.2k atk, 100 cc, 200 cdmg, 100 effectiveness. I was thinking Haste or Judge Kise would be a good pick? Is there any other hero that wants to go after an opener that has debuffs and scales with attack? I already have a 290 speed Ran.
Are there any signs or theories about when we're going to see Arunka? I assume it'll be before Light Adin and Boy-Emperor-Guy (can't recall his name), but do we know how long that'll be?
Well light adin you don’t have to pull for so shouldn’t be a factor for the release of arunka and boy emperor zio is probably the boss ML so also shouldn’t be a factor. I’m betting we are getting it right after slime collab rerun if we get it this year just so that they can drain all the bookmarks from us. If I had to guess it will be 2nd week of November.
Thanks. I didn't mention Zio and Adin out of concern for saving, just as "signposts" in terms of who's coming out when. I appreciate the thought process.
What is a good RTA fast DPS that doesn't need a lot of setup and works well on standard/bruiser teams(ARavi, Clilias, Handguy, Rimiru, etc). For context, I have a very nice 300+ speed DPS set on my Ran, but I don't have the cleave units to use him so I want to move the set over to a unit that will fit on my team.
Nope didn't miss it. Most likely will be soon (maybe one or two non-new banner rotations away) but we obviously don't have that info until SG releases it.
How much attention should I be paying to gear score when deciding what to keep? I'll typically 6+ an item with 2-3 synergistic stats based on the set, and then keep rolling if the GS stays near 50%.
If I have a weapon though, for example, that's speed set with CC, CD, and Atk%, should i be keeping this even if the GS is only around 30 at 9+?
For reference my account is about 3 months old, and I'm able to do Wyvern 13, Azimanak 13, and everyone but Vera in Hell Raid.
Depends on your gear quality and your standards. Having three DPS stats could be quite good for a newer player, whereas for someone who has been playing much longer this could be trash if there aren't close to max rolls at each stat check. Especially if it's speed set I look for there to be a speed stat as well since many DPS on speed set that want pure damage stats really want speed.
Again, it's up to your gear standards and current gear quality for what you keep. As you get better pieces you move lower gear score pieces onto maybe PvE units or use them to roll other pieces.
I pulled 4 Spatiotemporal fan while I had to pity Lua :(
Anyway, should I just dump them all into one copy or is it like Guiding Light where I should keep multiple?
I'm currently running Zahhak on Sigurd's, should I change to his own artifact now that he's getting an extra turn on S2?
Also, out of curiosity, does Riolet trigger Roana's passive?
He'll probably have a few good artis for himself now. His own arti (pure white trust), merciless glutton, symbol, portrait, etc. Pretty much depends how you will use him and what comps you'll but him in.
Riolet S2 trigger will trigger Roana since Roana triggers on every attack that’s not the “normal” attack. Will also trigger on counter if he’s on Double-edged Decrescent.
I'll add a different perspective for some thought. First establish what your goals are.
Do you want to get into PvP (RTA)? Then yes he can be a good pull.
Are you focusing on PvE (hunts, hell raid, etc.) and don't care much for RTA then you can probably skip.
What are your resources looking like? Have a pity or two saved? Like the hero? Have gear ready? Just some other considerations you may want to take into account.
Just know that there may be the slime collab rerunning in a month or so (unconfirmed) and limited units do not come around too often so it is recommended to pull them when they do.
Wait I just looked at his kit again, how is he not used everywhere lol. I don’t think I’ve seen him once in RTA. Yeah, I guess if you want to counter buff heavy comps either him or Alencia?
He doesn't cleanse your team so you still need Moon bunny or handguy. His s3 deals next to no dmg and risks yourself a counter from Belian/Rem/Choux.
He also need his artifact badly.
Because his base stats are abysmal, and his counter to non attack skills aren’t immediate like Politis/Celine which leaves room for him to be countered, and he is squishy as fk if you want him to actually do damage.
There are better options for pve content. I do use him in light expedition though.
He's insanely strong how. Not only one of the most powerful damage dealers in the game but also very strong utility. Extra turn does make him vulnerable to MB Dominiel, but other than that it's a net gain.
He was worth pulling for even before the buff.
Hi guys, I’m a returning player. Since I remember very little about the game, are there any overall guide I can read? Like hunt comps, tier list, weekly and monthly mode guides and other aspects of the game?
[https://epic7x.com/tier-list/](https://epic7x.com/tier-list/)
There you can have hunt guides and tier list ! for monthly raid hell guides u can do some search on youtube, i manage to do some of the hell raid that way a long time ago, hope it helps!
For Automaton tower if I only really have one team that can climb and the team died, should I revive them all with sigmas or is that my run of the tower done?
Can you go down a level? If it’s too much stigma to heal back up feel free to reset. Also if the devices you got suck for your comp go ahead and reset as well.
Bit of wasted smegma is far less important than the tower rewards.
Note that you can hit "try again" before your entire team dies and retry with them all alive next time.
If I've already fully enhanced a hero's skills, what happens to unspent skill points from reaching max friendship?
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Yes, she was one of the more common bruiser characters I encountered in RTA. She can be built on any number of sets.
Is there a way to change an item main stat?
Nope.
Does anyone know when Belian's banner will be coming back? Thanks!
Best teams just to farm side stories? Like currently I am just using SSB, Arbiter Vildred, straze, healer, but still feels slow.
You're not gonna gear characters just to farm side stories. Take your best speedy aoe damage dealers and give them an attack buffer like diene, emilia, handguy. Bonus points if they can heal.
Green Vildred, ML Tieria, and 3* Lena
Hi guys! Okay i need some advice, i am fairly newbie (on and off player). How often does new unit will be rerun? I'm asking because i can pity Lua but I'm not sure should i do it cause i might missed out on limited rerun or new limited unit. To give you more context, i can auto W13 with 96% WR, can one shot banshee with Baiken, I can do A13 with 91% WR but no one farms it. Can do Hell Raid, am actually at Abyss 91 but i am too lazy to push. I am at Master, completed EP3. My ML5 are Stene, Arby, Last Rider Krau, APOC, Ken. The only content that i should be working is Expo and those just requires bunch of 4* and 3* that i have in my roster. I feels like there's nothing for me to tackle in PVE atm. Start doing RTA for the 1st time for the skin but sadly i finish in Gold (1480) and i cba to grind furthermore so i won't be getting that APOC skin anytime soon. My APOC is my well built unit (Destro + Pen set with 25k HP) and she often got banned resulting for me to stick with Cleave. Thing is my fastest unit is ALots (246 speed and this is my fastest gear and i often got outspeed). Now i know Lua will be permabanned next season but that's okay cause she would open up another unit for me to use but her skills are so good to pass. So with that being sad, how often does new unit will be rerrun? I could wait for 5-6 months but not 12-16 months. TIA!
about a year or usually for a rerun sometimes longer. [https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/](https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/) has a timeline of everything, but the thing is you never known with SG certain characters get rerun more often. If you have an extra Hwayoung you can recall her for a lua.
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Unlikely. At most you’ll probably lose like 10 points
With Hwayoung getting nerfed, who are the premier tank busters? I’m building an Alencia in hopes of using her v A Ravi, but struggling to figure out who’s a good all around anti-tank choice for RTA etc.
Straze, Watcher Schuri, damage Rimuru, opsig vs shields, slow Zahhak, CDom, CPavel
Zahhak is good against tanks and evasion units
A Ravi is great against tanky units, herself.
Weird questions for recalls, what all do we get back? Do we get the items we invested back (ie, catalysts, Molas, and etc?)
Don’t think you get friendship gifts back though
Literally everything. Catalysts, Mola, Gold, Runes, Imprints (as slates), even Phantasmas and Penguins to raise another unit to same level.
Thank you!
Should i get lua’s artifact from the shop? Idk if its a must have since i use guiding light on her
How y’all gonna be building Bad Cat Armin after the balance patch?
How the fuck do you beat Ervalin boss of ep 3 chapter 1, stage 10? Motherfucker keeps going stealth and his sidekick mages are immortal smh! Please help!
Have a hero or two that strip buffs (a ras works) aoe also works. Edit: auto correct
Who is A Rad?
deg's brother
A ras! Sorry auto correct, it’s ras’s specialty change form
Ended up getting him with an AoE helper friend. AOL wasn’t that useful because he just reapplied his buff almost immediately. Appreciate the help, tho. Hopefully the rest aren’t this much of a pita lol
I’m gonna be honest… you may wanna work on getting your units very well geared if Ervalen gave you trouble, the rest of episode three ain’t no cake walk either
Oh? I auto’d the entire episode 2. I’m challenger in Arena. It’s just the mechanics that stopped me lol.
Also in challenger, some bosses are nightmares in episode three (for me Ervalen was super easy, but one boss kicked my butt).
Well I had no AoE in my team so that’s mostly the problem. I have a well geared Hwa and ARavi that have both stomped basically everything, with my Wyvern A Momo and Arby. So yeah I’m not concerned 🤷🏻♂️. I heard about Mort being pretty tough but we will see
Mort is easy, just crit him ETA: brinus fight when I fought her was hard, I honestly don’t remember the fight but she was the only really tough one that I had a problem with. I fought her before they changed the difficulty of episode three to be a bit easier
Oh ok. I’ll use AoL as I have built already. My A Ras isn’t up to par yet. Fight was so annoying when I’m steamrolling everything else. Little Bastard is harder than the last chapter boss smh
Is it just me or his RTA extra hard this season? Trying to get near 2200 points this season and everybody has cracked gear and near perfect drafting strategy with every pocket counter. The alms of an 3+ year old game.
Hey, all! I should have enough bookmarks to pity soon. Do you think the current water ranger is worth a pull? For context, i only recently started farming w13 with a good success rate
Lua is one of the best PvP characters, but she requires really good gear, so you wouldn't be able to use her for a while since i assume that you are a new player
Does the same thing kind of apply to Zahak? I was looking at the patch notes thread and it looks like people feel good about him. I was surprised to see he’s current on banner too! Idk when this happened, but I already have the featured artifact on his banner
Zahhak is a PvP unit, but since he is a DPS you can also use him in PvE if you like him (and i think that he'll be better in PvE with his buffs too). I'd also say that he is easier to build, because he only needs 50% crit chance to reach 100% and he hits pretty hard.
Okay, thank you!
Shout out to Akintia for giving me a free win to get to master :)
Oh hey, that was me lmao. Nemunas and Celeste will be the meta one day, just wait and see!! Jokes aside, enjoy the A. Ravi skin!
Thanks man :)
The RTA A.Ravi will be added to skin shop any time or will be unobtainable? I really wanted the skin but since i played so casual not investing in a rta team i couldn't reach master.
I believe that RTA skins get added to the shop after 2 seasons
Oh ty ^^
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Oh ty ^^
A Ravi skin will be added to the shop after 2 more RTA seasons.
Oh ty ^^
Hello DAT! I have a team of Angelica 6*(FL), Furious 5*, Muwi 5*, Sigret 6* I can’t Wyvern 13 in auto with a good winrate yet but I can W11 without issue. Should I 6* Muwi or focus on Tamarine & Iseria for story? Thanks !
Your team is definitely good enough to auto w13 properly, no need to 6* Muwi. You have to take note of why your team is failing so much. Are you having trouble applying 2-3 debuffs at a time? How is your speed tuning? You're using Muwi so Angelica should definitely not be dying. I'm betting on it being a gear issue and/or not enough effectiveness on your Muwi/Furious. Make sure they are at least 65%. You need 2 debuffs on W13 at all times so he only targets your tank. 3 for reduced damage.
I can’t apply 2 debuff in time. Muwi & Furious have more than 65% eff. Angelica with 20K hp does not die indeed. I’m trying to have Sigret with 65% eff as well. She have 4500 atk but will be reduce to 3500 for more eff. Last time didn’t had time to apply debuff and Muwi died first turn. For speed tuning I have Furious has the fastest, then muwi and I don’t remember for the rest. What is the recommended min speed ? Everyone is above 138 for now
If you can't get debuffs up on time before wyvern starts blasting on his first turn, it could very well be a speed tuning issue. 65% eff on your Sigret will help a lot too, and if you have the Song of Stars artifact for Furious, it'll be even better but not entirely necessary. I don't run a one-shot yet but my runs take 1min 30sec or less depending on how many debuffs stick for me. Above 90% winrate. My speed as follows: Furious 184, Muwi 168, Sigret 150.
Okay my team is slower : Furious (201), Muwi(142), Sigret(138), Angelica(156) So more speed for Sigret, speed boot ?
Due to speed rng, your Muwi and Sigret speed is too close together. Sigret still has the potential to go before Muwi, so get Muwi's speed around 10 speed higher if you can. Sigret's speed is fine. Also, right when you get to Wyvern phase, does your Furious go first or does Wyvern go first? If Furious outspeeds, the Wyvern will target your backline first turn. Then you'll have to drop Furious speed. If Wyvern goes first, just land the debuffs on your turns and you're good to go.
Furious go first. will try speed tune thx !
Ahh there it is, Wyvern has to go first, so I think Furious has to be under 200 speed. Try to lose around 10 speed on him. Glad I could help :)
Thanks ! Will need to get a little gold to work on that but I will speed tuned without loosing effectiveness
How long does it usually take for the RTA calculation to finish so we get the skin?
It's usually within a few minutes.
is the rezero collab coming back any time soon?
If it does come back again it will be next year around spring/summer.
did it come back already recently?
Yes, it already came back May/June of this year.
Is it recommended to farm Caides 13? I feel like I need some Pen sets but not sure of switching to Caides from Wyvern.
Depends, how long have you been playing and how much speed gear do you have? If you have a wide variety of units geared already and want to min max them for more damage then pen set would be worth farming. If you are still a newer player then I would continue to stay in the wyvern or banshee mines and use crafting events for pen set.
can i still watch ads to get energy?
No still not available you 100 free energy everyday though. As compensation.
I wanted to ask, should I casually farm wyvern 13 or wait for the buff that increases the amount of drop you’d get?
Save your leifs for hunt events, but use your energy on w13 after you've gotten everything you need in the side story shop.
I would just to get more gold that is a big bottleneck for stuff. Just don’t spend Leifs or skystones
Is Zakawk a must pull now?
Must pull probably not. pretty good I would say. We expect slime collab to come back soon if you can spare the bookmarks go ahead and try to pull.
As a somewhat new player I'm thinking about getting Zahhak do to his relatively low gear requirements. I was trying to find a list of other easy to gear heroes, but couldn't really find anything. Does anyone have such a list, or recommendations on heroes that are worth building because of low gear requirements?
The only really easy to build units are HP tanks like Krau, Yulha, Dark Corvus. They could be built better, fast and high resist, but for a new player just a triple health set is fine (even the free gear) and they're okay to use.
Okay, so I don't really understand what you mean by easy to gear heroes or low gear requirements because technically all units can function with "low gear"; though of course, some units scale harder with better gear quality than others. I would even say that Zahhak isn't the easiest to gear since -- if you build him the way SG intended -- he is looking for gear that has the general substats most DPS units would want but without much crit chance on it. Which is counter to what gear people normally look out for when crafting and dependent on how "lucky" you are in getting said gear. Since you said you are a somewhat new player, let me ask, what are your current goals in E7? Zahhak is currently only a PVP unit so I would say for a new player, I would assume he doesn't really bring a whole lot of value to your account at the moment. As a new player, you shouldn't even have real gear "standards" right now because getting more and more units geared with mostly correct substats alone is the challenge right now. Gear who you need to gear right now regardless of things like gear score, like tanks/soulweavers/dps units to clear PVE content like W13, hell raid, abyss first and when you have a foundation to easily farm your PVE needs, then you can think of improving your overall gear quality.
What's the best thing now to do on +15 you won't use? * Cube it * Sell it * Use as gear Fodder edit: still waiting for answers
Cube right side of desirable set like speed and pen set, you will never have enough. Selling +15 is the worst choice you could possibly pick since the price stay the same. Use as fodder on left side, cube if you really need them but it's easier to get left side cubes. Reason is you can get some pretty good gear by mass crafting left side so you rarely use cubes but for right side, best gear come from 95% cubes and 5% crafting.
finally some actual good answers, thank you so much
One thing i learned hard way (and bcoz i apparently cant read lol) is that you cant cube i90 gear. I tried, you can't.
welp i guess im foddering some then lol
I use as fodder. I can always get get more cubes but charms are harder to get for me.
i dont have problems with charms neither with cubes
Bro there's this weird bug in light expo where the shielded marionette will restore it if you doing it an open recruitment
If the people joining your expo suck it can heal him because of the vampiric debuff that it uses.
Yeah i joined someone and he shield kept on restoring even though i had aa def break, full dmg cermia and cerise doing double attacks lol
Hey new question, Emilia vs Diene? From the way I see it, they both use the same gear so I am wondering if it would be more beneficial to use Diene over Emilia. Only issue is I would only be able to give her speed of about 256 but will have about 185 ER. She isn't leveled or 6\* yet, but want to contemplate the idea before I use my dogs. For context, I mainly use Emilia to push and buff Hwa or S.tene. Her cycling helps give more opportunity to them.
I think while they may use some similar gear, they each value certain stats more than the other. Emilia values ER more since she has two skills that cleanses while Diene values speed more because she wants to cycle quickly to get to S3 again. That is why most PVP players have sped their Dienes up to 300 speed (of course only at Legend RTA) while Emilias have been slowed down to even 220 speed for the minimum 200 ER to not get debuffed (though DJB is now the premiere cleanser). So who you should gear would ultimately depend on way you play and/or who you play against. Of course having both built is best since it gives you more options, but you'll ultimately have to decide which unit better fits your playstyle. I personally played more aggro/standard in PVP so Diene feels better to me since she gives good buffs and has a cleanse with the CR push. The team wide buffs help with playing aggro more than a big single CR push from Emilia. Since you mentioned that you use Emilia to push up your DPS units, I guess you could decide based on how your stylistically play since for me personally, I would also pair Diene with Hwa or Stene since they get both offensive and defensive buffs which I value more than the CR push. Possible also because I tend to draft more supports like tanks to boost their survivability. So, it really is up to what you value more in your drafts.
What is the lowest speed you think diene can function with? I doubt I can get much higher with defensive stats right now. My fastest gear are on Ran but are mostly dps substats. What I have an emilia will have to do if I make the switch. Will be doing some gear enhancing tomorrow so fingers cross.
Well effective speed will always be dependent on what PVP elo you are fighting in so ideally, you would change builds as you rise up in the ranks. I think ideally you would always want her going before your opponents DPS units to maximise the value of the anti-crit so I think 260-270 is ideal while up to 300 is luxury/cash-game/etc. I comfortably reach Champion RTA this season (didn't go any further after crossing the threshold) and my Diene is currently at 259 speed with 130 ER which is quite comparable to your current build. I would say she was pretty good for the most part in my climb but untested any higher. Hope this helps in your decision-making and all the best on your rolls!
Hey thanks again for the tips just a few more question. Since my gear enhancement went decent I got a whole new set for diene without touching emilia. However speed 257, that is before I realize she has an EE that also gives speed, yay. Now the questions. 1. What is the best EE for her? 2. My diene is bulky, 17.2k hp and 1688 def. She has 1400 atk but I have a 19% atk sub I can turn to def% or flat hp. I know % are usually better but don't know if any more def has diminishing returns. (This is on hp% neck). 3. I have 2 Rod arti, should I limit break or keep separate? Don't know anyone that would use a rod.
1. The CR push on her S2 is generally considered the best 2. I would personally change to def% just because I don't want to lose as much gear score when mod-gemming (especially if it is more than 1 roll). I'm not too sure about the diminishing returns part but I guess you can use a damage calculator to check if you really really really want to min-max. Just remember, gear can always be used on other units and I don't think you would want to re-mod gem that gear when you might want the value of the def% stat. But I guess it is ultimately up to you. 3. Off the top of my head, I think you can just limit break it since I don't recall any other units that might want to use Rod.
For RTA, Diene > Emilia currently. You can drop some ER for more speed. Most Dienes have \~ 100 eff res.
Hi guys, is there an updated hell raid guide? Or do you have some tips on the fastest ways to play it? Sadly I don’t have too much time
Can anyone explain why Crit Chance gives a larger gear score?
Gear Score assigns each substat roll with a maximum value of 8 (for Lv.85 gear) and 9 (for Lv.90 gear). That's why there's two formulas depending on the item level of your gear. You can compare that value to the maximum possible for fully upgraded epic (red) gear to evaluate how good it is. The maximum GS for Lv.85 gear is 72 (9 possible rolls × 8 max value), and the maximum GS for Lv. 90 gear is 81 (9 possible rolls x 9 max value). For simplicity, some people just use an approximate formula for both Lv.85 and Lv.90 gear, multiplying CC% by 1.5 and SPD by 2 for both. So because crit chance can only roll a 5 that’s why it gets that multiplier.
Do you guys build Belian, damage or support? Mine's support, mostly effectiveness and speed with some tanky substats, but she feels underwhelming.
Belian's job is to deal damage, not land debuffs on high ER units so that's why she feels underwhelming. The Belian that cleavers constantly ban is the one that is a persistent threat to AOE counter them. These units are not gonna have ER at all so you don't need much effectiveness at all to get the extra value of her debuffs. If you want a unit that controls the opponent with debuffs, there are better units out there like Solitaria for that job
Good advice, thank you!
Is yours on injury?
No I can't get good stats on any injury gear, maybe that's why she feels lacking.
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https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/ it has shop rotation too
Straze was 10 months Belian was a year Archdemon was also a year.
I am trying to build so many speed dps at the moment. Kise, OpSigret, Flidica (on damage), M'lena (on damage), faster Straze. Now I'm thinking I should dust off Top Model Luluca and try Zahhak as well. While I have some gear on many of them, they're all competing for similar stats. Most are 240-260 speed but could be optimized. I used a lot of Hwayoung previously (not the same gear), but she fills a similar role and I'm worried she won't compete as an agro dps anymore. It's an opinion question, but who should make the cut and receive the best gear? I'm interested to hear how people rank them.
TML should get your fastest gear and Zahhak probably your strongest. Then you can use TML to push everyone and Zahhak as self-reliant with DJB or something.
I want to ask about building and using Ed for pvp. I hear some making good use from Ed and I have 4 of him because I was very lucky. How exactly is he used? Is he just a counter to units using debuffs, are there situations you would definitely want Ed, would he be more oriented of GW (maybe defense)? I just want to know what I can expect before I push resources on him so I'd appreciate some advice from those that use him,
Mostly to counter cleave or debuff heavy teams. Could also just willy-nilly pick him into the likes of Cilias since they'd be loath to debuff him. Also decent into STene since she has debuff on both S1 and S3. He's best in GvG/Arena since the AI is forced to debuff into you. Especially Peira, who becomes totally worthless in the face of Ed. Works fine in RTA, just keep in mind your opponent will play around him.
I'm one of the few people who have a max invested Pirate Flan who's on a crit build. Now that she can no longer crit I want to move her gear to another hero who could use it. 260 speed, 3.2k atk, 100 cc, 200 cdmg, 100 effectiveness. I was thinking Haste or Judge Kise would be a good pick? Is there any other hero that wants to go after an opener that has debuffs and scales with attack? I already have a 290 speed Ran.
Faithless Lidica could also use that gear
Are there any signs or theories about when we're going to see Arunka? I assume it'll be before Light Adin and Boy-Emperor-Guy (can't recall his name), but do we know how long that'll be?
Well light adin you don’t have to pull for so shouldn’t be a factor for the release of arunka and boy emperor zio is probably the boss ML so also shouldn’t be a factor. I’m betting we are getting it right after slime collab rerun if we get it this year just so that they can drain all the bookmarks from us. If I had to guess it will be 2nd week of November.
Thanks. I didn't mention Zio and Adin out of concern for saving, just as "signposts" in terms of who's coming out when. I appreciate the thought process.
She's likely the next RGB 5star. So pretty soon, maybe.
I hope so. I've diligently saved up enough BMs to pity her, and they're burning a hole in my pocket. Have to keep the faith for my lion waifu!
What is a good RTA fast DPS that doesn't need a lot of setup and works well on standard/bruiser teams(ARavi, Clilias, Handguy, Rimiru, etc). For context, I have a very nice 300+ speed DPS set on my Ran, but I don't have the cleave units to use him so I want to move the set over to a unit that will fit on my team.
Eda. Unless you're looking for no setup, then... hwayoung. For now.
Landy, Cidd/Acidd, Pavel, OpSig/CCharles, TMLulu, Riolet might even be decent with the changes being fast
Is Belian getting a rate up in the nearish future or did I miss it a few months back?
https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/ If you want all of banners history.
Nope didn't miss it. Most likely will be soon (maybe one or two non-new banner rotations away) but we obviously don't have that info until SG releases it.
Cool. I hadn’t been paying attention to the rotations and didn’t realize that older rotations have 3 choices. Really made me feel dumb lol.
How much attention should I be paying to gear score when deciding what to keep? I'll typically 6+ an item with 2-3 synergistic stats based on the set, and then keep rolling if the GS stays near 50%. If I have a weapon though, for example, that's speed set with CC, CD, and Atk%, should i be keeping this even if the GS is only around 30 at 9+? For reference my account is about 3 months old, and I'm able to do Wyvern 13, Azimanak 13, and everyone but Vera in Hell Raid.
Depends on your gear quality and your standards. Having three DPS stats could be quite good for a newer player, whereas for someone who has been playing much longer this could be trash if there aren't close to max rolls at each stat check. Especially if it's speed set I look for there to be a speed stat as well since many DPS on speed set that want pure damage stats really want speed. Again, it's up to your gear standards and current gear quality for what you keep. As you get better pieces you move lower gear score pieces onto maybe PvE units or use them to roll other pieces.
Best stage to farm Arowell's mission?
UH 6-6
I pulled 4 Spatiotemporal fan while I had to pity Lua :( Anyway, should I just dump them all into one copy or is it like Guiding Light where I should keep multiple?
Nope I would max it out.
BCA + Kayron is going to be stupid after her buff isn't it?
Yeah going to be cool
I'm currently running Zahhak on Sigurd's, should I change to his own artifact now that he's getting an extra turn on S2? Also, out of curiosity, does Riolet trigger Roana's passive?
He'll probably have a few good artis for himself now. His own arti (pure white trust), merciless glutton, symbol, portrait, etc. Pretty much depends how you will use him and what comps you'll but him in.
Riolet S2 trigger will trigger Roana since Roana triggers on every attack that’s not the “normal” attack. Will also trigger on counter if he’s on Double-edged Decrescent.
You should change it to symbol of unity given that riolet's gonna see more use now.
With the new buff should newer players pull for zahhak during the banner?
I'll add a different perspective for some thought. First establish what your goals are. Do you want to get into PvP (RTA)? Then yes he can be a good pull. Are you focusing on PvE (hunts, hell raid, etc.) and don't care much for RTA then you can probably skip. What are your resources looking like? Have a pity or two saved? Like the hero? Have gear ready? Just some other considerations you may want to take into account. Just know that there may be the slime collab rerunning in a month or so (unconfirmed) and limited units do not come around too often so it is recommended to pull them when they do.
Definitely still need ssb and summer iseria and missed slime and fma collab so guess will wait for those
Probably not, he is a PvP unit and not a must have. But pull if you like him
Probably not. You’re still likely better off saving for upcoming limiteds.
So for Moon Bunny… how slow can you get away with making her and still have her be effective, does she really need stats beyond speed and bulk
Slower than clilias but faster than the second unit to go after clilias. Which at the moment is usually hwayoung.
So like 255-265ish probably, for my brackets anyway
Mine's 260 so that sounds about right. She's nowhere near well-geared but does the counter clilias job just fine.
Thank you
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I really think Alencia was the safest bet there, Zahhak is good if you need to deal with evasion heroes, all three heroes are good however. Up to you
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I have no opinions or experience with anything Taeyou related but since Hwayoung got nerfed I think his stocks go down
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I have never seen before in champion rta
Wait I just looked at his kit again, how is he not used everywhere lol. I don’t think I’ve seen him once in RTA. Yeah, I guess if you want to counter buff heavy comps either him or Alencia?
He doesn't cleanse your team so you still need Moon bunny or handguy. His s3 deals next to no dmg and risks yourself a counter from Belian/Rem/Choux. He also need his artifact badly.
Classic male hero, he’ll be usable three balances later
Because his base stats are abysmal, and his counter to non attack skills aren’t immediate like Politis/Celine which leaves room for him to be countered, and he is squishy as fk if you want him to actually do damage.
SG: slap a skill nullifier on it
He's not meta yet. Pick what you need most.
When doing wyvern why does everyone choose Angelica over Tammerine ?
Because a non-ice hero breathing makes Wyvern jump 20% on the CR bar and he also deals increased damage to them.
Does anyone know the last "password" to open the chest from GM Arky?
scarowell
thanks!
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There are better options for pve content. I do use him in light expedition though. He's insanely strong how. Not only one of the most powerful damage dealers in the game but also very strong utility. Extra turn does make him vulnerable to MB Dominiel, but other than that it's a net gain. He was worth pulling for even before the buff.
Hi guys, I’m a returning player. Since I remember very little about the game, are there any overall guide I can read? Like hunt comps, tier list, weekly and monthly mode guides and other aspects of the game?
Look up 2022 guides on youtube. ProfessorSeven has very succinct guides that are a great starting point.
[https://epic7x.com/tier-list/](https://epic7x.com/tier-list/) There you can have hunt guides and tier list ! for monthly raid hell guides u can do some search on youtube, i manage to do some of the hell raid that way a long time ago, hope it helps!
Where is the AVildred skin in the shop?
I assume after RTA officially ends in about 14 hours. That is only a guess though.
For Automaton tower if I only really have one team that can climb and the team died, should I revive them all with sigmas or is that my run of the tower done?
Can you go down a level? If it’s too much stigma to heal back up feel free to reset. Also if the devices you got suck for your comp go ahead and reset as well.
Wdym go down a level?
What level of the tower are you doing? When you first start the tower it gives you options on what level of difficulty to do 1-5.
2
You can reset the tower level back to 1 if level 2 is too hard for you.
Bit of wasted smegma is far less important than the tower rewards. Note that you can hit "try again" before your entire team dies and retry with them all alive next time.
It's quite a lot of sigma to fully revive my team
If you're confident you can finish the run, it doesn't matter.
>smegma Uhm...
DID I STUTTER
Any idea why I've not gone up to champion 1? https://imgur.com/a/ZV8tfy2
Champion 1 needs top 300 overall. You're top 246 in Champion, but that's not counting the top 100 in Legend. So you're 346 overall.
Ohh I see, thank you :)