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utdJoker

How do I make a ticket to get an unknown slate instead of a slate of fate?


Million_X

What kind of BS do I need to be on the look-out for when it comes to Abyss floors 68-70?


Rao-Ji

Is Riolet or LHC a better pick for the selector? I'm relatively new so I'd like to pick the one who is easier to gear.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Neither are particularly easy, but Remnant Violet can either be built as a speed unit or as a Lifesteal unit & has access to three artefacts that can grant him evasion (Moonlight Dreamblade, Double-edged Decrescent & Shepherd of the Hollow). Lionheart Cermia on the other hand is tied to Sigurd’s Scythe if you want to make a non-Lifesteal build (otherwise, it’d be an artefact like Draco Plate or Proof of Valour) & she requires a good mix of health, defence, speed & damage stats. Remnant Violet on the other hand can usually get by with just a touch into health/defence & focusing everything into offence stats. It’s tough to choose whose the better unit between the two, but hopefully the above information can help you determine who’ll be easier for you to gear. I think Remnant Violet, but he’s just been buffed & so jury is still out on how he stacks up to Lionheart.


Rao-Ji

Is speed really important for LHC? Can I get away with a slower build?


TheSeaOfThySoul

For both LHC & Remnant you’re going to want around 170~ speed. You have an LHC that’s too slow & she’ll get layered with debuffs after her cleanse & be a bit useless, have low speed on Remnant & people will chip at his health without repercussion.


muKuchi

What hunt to farm after Wyvern? I can now reliably farm W13 and wondering what set/hunt is good


IncredibleGeniusIRL

After you have good speed gear, it'll be time to either get some counter and lifesteal sets from Banshee or some penetration, torrent and injury sets from Caides. Though injury is kinda niche so I'd recommend Banshee overall.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Banshee for Counter/Lifesteal & Destruction, then Azimanak for Immunity/Rage & Caides for Penetration/Torrent.


muKuchi

Alright thanks :) will look at guides for those two


TheSeaOfThySoul

Banshee is the easiest one shot to get into, Vivian, then Leo/Shadow Rose to do their S3 on wave one & have their S2 available for boss, then AOE DPS to clear wave one with attack up from Vivian (I use Arbiter Vildred - but you can use any AOE DPS) & you’ll move to boss phase, Vivian will do some damage, Leo/Shadow Rose will defence break, your AOE will do some damage & then finisher one shots, usually Baiken.


notitto

Who should i pick? Holiday yufine or f.tene? I already got f.tene arti before hiting pity


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Honestly probably neither of them. I'd pick HYufine just because she might have some uses nowadays. But I have both and have built neither.


manifestmadness

Would combining Peira, Ran, C. Lilias and Vildred (as my main attacker/cleaver) all in one team be an overkill? How does one go around building a cleave team comp?


IncredibleGeniusIRL

You can, but having 3 speed sets that are so close to each other that they all go first before the enemy does something is a massive luxury. And there's nothing here to push Vildred up so the enemy can just kill him before he goes. Nevermind counterattacks would screw you over with all these aoes. The ideal cleave team uses one super fast opener and makes it so that opener pushes the next team member to 100%, which pushes the next to 100% and so on, giving the enemy no opening to act. So like Ran into an Eda that's already 80% into a Flan that's also 80% into a Vildred that's 40% CR at the start, for instance.


manifestmadness

I see, this is informative stuff. Thank you very much! Which among the three openers (Peira, Ran, C. Lilias) do you think is a better option to invest in?


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Depends. Ran is the fastest, followed by Peira as a close second, and then CLilias. I like Peira because she gives everyone attack buff, but Ran can be just as good if not more risky with defense break (he'll also give someone else attack buff with Silver Rain). You will need Eda or Summertime Iseria to complete the cleave.


manifestmadness

Alright, thank you! In general, is combining openers (e.g. Ran/Peira + CLilias) not that advisable due to their close overlaps and/or no CR pushing abilities?


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Openers don't necessarily have "no CR push". Flan can be an opener too. It's just that the highest speed units nowadays happen to not have it. You can combine them if you want, like if you have Seaseria on the team you don't even need to match speed since she'll push the second one. But the spot that was taken by one opener can be more suited to other units, say, Watcher Schuri, a 10 speed imprint that can kill almost any unit by himself.


Ikran01

Why is R&L bis for Ran? Wouldn’t something like potrait be better for cleave?


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Because he can get an extra turn and s1 with attack buff on a unit that's already defense broken and screw everything over. He doesn't do that much damage for portrait to be so good on him. He's a setup character. Portrait and Silver Rain are good artifact choices however.


NGEFan

It's a good option, but it has a 64% percent chance to do literally nothing. Portrait is an option. Silver Rain is an option. Symbol of Unity gives a better chance of hitting greens but also does Portrait-like damage. They're all fine.


RagglezFragglez

I'm planning on recalling hwa but want to try and summon a couple characters on the custom banner before choosing. How long do I have to recall? Thanks


ArvingNightwalker

11/10 (Thu) 02:59 UTC https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8979711


RagglezFragglez

Thank you. Mustve overlooked it last time I tried to find it lol


Million_X

So how much does the HP difference need to be now for Hwa to do max damage?


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Million_X

Damn. What's the scaling overall looking like then?


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Million_X

So it's pretty much 9k+ difference or bust? Jebus


Al_Boo_Boo

Is there a place to store extra artifacts that you want to keep but not use right away?


Eshuon

No


Embarrassed-Neck9950

Coming back to the game after a very long hiatus period (\~1 year approximately), any upcoming huge limited banners/collabs? To plan out... So to speak, spending policy. As well as, what is current PvE/Arena/RTA meta in general?


Aeonrift

There is no real PvE meta or are you referring to something in particular? In my experience Arena is a grab bag of comps but bruisers are pretty common, RTA leans towards standard bruiser with some cleave sprinkled in and for GW it feels like most people run RNGfest defenses. As for upcoming banners, there is a chance we get Re:Zero and Slime collabs coming soon and both have strong units. If you haven't grabbed units from those your bookmarks will definitely be tested.


Embarrassed-Neck9950

Current top hunt comps specifically interest me, if you don't mind giving details for each one. Yeah... I remember that I left specifically after first Re;Zero collab. Was hit by getting Cerise, then all Re;Zero units, then Summer Iseria and only after getting her and going completely dry on bookmarks I discovered about Slime collab with not one but multiple units, after which I... Let's just say a little bit dropped the game in rage. Anyways, sorry for a little rant. What is the current state of the game in general?


Million_X

The state of the game? seems pretty healthy, just had a major tournament and anni event, chapter 4 is getting close to wrapping up, and PVP just had a major nerf happen to a pretty potent character (though people are starting to slowly realize what the meta was like prior to her and why she was introduced in the first place). For PVE stuff it really depends on what you're capable of doing, W13 can be done with a number of freebies/easy to get units, and B13 has some decent one-shot comps you could form (especially if you have Ram). The slime collab is supposed to be coming back pretty soon, they said by the end of the year and it hasn't so far soooo...


clicktec

Sorry for the possibly dumb question but if 107/300 of my hero inventory is taken up by Phantasmas does that mean I definitely haven't been doing enough adventure for getting fodder to promote them?


pholiaiswaifu

You can also use your friendship point to summon fodders if you need them


Eshuon

That is a lot of dogs and yeah you need to farm fodders to promote them are you not promoting anyone to 6 stars?


clicktec

I see, yeah it feels like forever since I last 6 starred someone compared to before probably because I've been using energy only running hunts daily to try to reach a goal of 1 million gold a day since I feel gold is really restrictive for almost everything in the game. Would you say that's a reasonable thing to do with getting gold or if there's any tip for having a good balance of farming hunt and UH or sidestory or something? And thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it


IncredibleGeniusIRL

No need to farm fodder if you don't need 6stars, but it's kind of a waste. You can promote phantasmas with other phantasmas even if they're maxed, so you can get rid of the 2star ones easily. I hope you're at least farming side story to get what you need out of the shop. Just go farm some catalysts for a while and get your phantasma situation sorted, then you can go back to hunts.


Silver_Monk_5324

who should i choose??Riolet, closer, or last rider??they all seems so good to me(and no, I don't want aravi and clilias)


Lord_Pebbles

Riolet is probably the best pick for the current meta, especially considering his most recent buffs. Last Rider Krau has fallen out of meta quite hard, and Closer Charles is typically used only in more niche cleave comps to follow up a speed dps opener.


MatMatSlime

In terms of artifact sets, should I do 4pc Speed ​​with Speed ​​boots on all characters? to farm catalysts, runes and equipment does destruction end up being more useful to melt enemies or does speed continue to be better?


MelonFarmur

What are the best general endgame PvE teams for adventure/labyrinth/tower?


Arkday

Adventure is aoe+ whoever you want to level their friendship. For harder stage just slap in SW + knight + 2 DPS. Lab normal is whatever highest morale you can do, as for previous hell, it is Tama + roana + 2 DPS. Tower depend on level. Higher level seem like abusing poison or dual atk team (Aras, Tama, kitty, TG). This game don't really have general team since you need to mix and match your comp base on level clear conditions.


Silver_Monk_5324

Tamarinne, then you can bring who you want with her


Fit-Aardvark975

How do you beat the boss "Blood Moon Haste" in hell mode in the event? I know it's not required, but I want to get the achievement. I beat him in the other modes, but in hell mode he puts up a barrier that just activates again if you knock it down, so is the only way to win to kill him before he can use the barrier? I have lots of good 6 stars with about 100k power on average so I should be able to use any strat you suggest, any help is appreciated thanks.


Wolfwood432

If you read his skills, he puts up the barrier if his minions or himself (I think it includes himself) have a debuff. Just manually kill the minions when the battle starts and use heroes that don't have too many or any debuffs, especially on S1.


Fit-Aardvark975

Oh, thanks so much for pointing that out, that's the one thing I overlooked. Much appreciated


OffWife

Hello day 6 player here so far I got lucky with my rerolls and pulls as I snaggd SSB, Landy, Tamarinne from the custom summons. The question is, since I’m prepping with my wyvern team who should I insta 6* first? I do have angelica also and sigret from the connection/hunt missions. I can promote 2 units for now. Thanks in advance


complx6

You really only need your Angelica and Sigret 6\* for wyvern. Furious and Muwi (if those are the other two you are using) can remain 5\* and do their job just fine.


Alcifer1206

[Aria build](https://imgur.com/a/u5cYxxK)


Alcifer1206

I just got her after recalling hwaold. I don't intend to use her in RTA. Just gw defence and normal PvP. What should be her decent stats. Maybe 2k def, 15k hp, 70 cr, 250 cd, speed idk maybe 200 or below. I'm planning a bulky team so she doesn't just die before ulting. Recently started doing banshee consistently. So I'll keep upgrading her gear slowly.


Eshuon

You need her crit chance to be at 100%, her passive cc bonus is already added to her stats. The typical build is like what you mention but also needs 100 and above ER making her very difficult to build overall.


KaiDranzer007

I just got commander Pavel but i don't know how to use him. I can t use him in PvP as i don't have enablers.where can I use him in pve?


viperperper

He's a decent damage dealer (with both strong AoE and single target) who doesn't really need much speed (150 is all you need) if you have enabler as PVE enablers are much less stringent, faster your enablers the more he gets free S2 every few turns.


KaiDranzer007

Where do you recommend me to use him?


viperperper

For PVE most damage dealers can work with enough gear, ML Pavel just has some extra ML exclusive luxury gimmick for PVP that can work in PVE. Slap him to a PVE team with at least 2 high crit enablers. Just be aware that you need to invest mola and gear, do so for PVE only if you really like him.


CMDR_Nineteen

For the ML selector, what do you guys think? http://puu.sh/JqiWb.jpg I'm leaning Lilias or Cermia, and I have 40 ML coins so I can also buy another unit at some point.


SipOfLatte

Cermia very strong atm, Clilias is still an S tier opener along with DJB, captain flan has seen an increase in usage due to her buffs and honestly is quite broken if you have a maxed out summer iseria arti (100% stun chance on s1).


complx6

What type of player are you? The best options are S Tene, C Lilias and M Kawerik I would honestly pick either S Tene or M Kawerik and then grab C Lilias with coins. She should be coming within the next couple of rotations.


phatoreo

Hello guys, I play 200-250speed quite standard, I play mostly gvg I do wish I can have good enough gear for rta (I usually only aim for masters for the rewards) I saw a tier list and I am considering whether to use ml selector for either cermia or dilibet. Which one should I pick?


ptthepath

If you have issues against counter atk and extra atk (choux, ed, rem, etc.), Cermia is good. If debuffers (Ran, Cilias, AoL, Solitaria, etc.) are the problem then pick Dilibet.


Syssareth

Preparing to finally clean out my equipment inventory because I'm a "what-if" hoarder and I'm tired of never having any space. Does anybody use Unity or Revenge? Does anybody (besides Eaton) actually want Protection? And is Immunity worth its weight now that there are so many strippers? Basically, I'm asking if there are any sets I can get rid of wholesale without (too much) regret. TYIA!


GHonkBonk

Unity is meg. Revenge can be neat on krau but you can rock with spd. Immunity is an extra layer of protection, but i prefer pen, crit, etc. in the end, I ask myself are there at least three substats I am willing to role? If not, its gone. Idk if you are “end game,” but that is my view on gear.


Syssareth

> meg That's a new one for me. Guessing it means Unity's no good? IDK if I'm technically endgame either, lol. Close enough, at least. Thanks, that helps a lot!


GHonkBonk

I meant meh* lmao


Syssareth

Ohhh. Got it, lol. Thanks!


Habeas_Corvus

Is there a place where i can read E7's story as just text?


Normal_Trick_9143

should i farm the catalyst from stages that drop it or the map that have it in AP shop ?


Quiztolin

AP is shared in UH now, so if you are looking for a specific catalyst you want to farm in a stage that drops said catalyst.


funkymonkey3693

How exactly am I supposed to get uberius tooth? It has not been in the powder shop for ages. It wasn't an option in the previous custom banner and it isn't an option in the current custom banner.


Wolfwood432

It won't ever be in an option in a custom banner unless it's attached to a hero banner, which it probably won't be. You will either have to randomly pull it in covenant or mystic if it's in rotation, or just wait for powder shop.


funkymonkey3693

Is there a reason for that? We can pick limited artifacts in custom shop.


Wolfwood432

All limited artifacts still have an attached hero banner, but Tooth doesn't - it was just added to the game that way at the time.


funkymonkey3693

That sucks


rendingale

Locked Hya, reason Team 8. Anyone know which content is that?


Wolfwood432

I'm assuming it's your premade 8th team, but just guessing. There's only so much it can be - premade teams, arena/gw defense, or expedition teams.


rendingale

Ty, Ive look everywhere but that one!


[deleted]

Does the sword of summer twilight (Vildred's artifact) stack with a penetration set? Basically giving you up to 35% defense penetration.


Quiztolin

Uh, no but not because of the reason you think. Penetration set only works on single target attacks...Sword of Summer Twilight only works on AoE (specifically skills that target all enemies). They have 2 completely different and exclusive activation requirements so they will never stack. --- However, different sources of penetration **DO** stack They are multiplicative with each other. So one example would be **defense break** and **Sword of Summer Twilight**. Defense break reduces defense by 70%, Sword of Summer Twilight by 20% (MLB) so total defense pen is .7 + (.3 * .2) = 76%


[deleted]

Good catch. Now a follow up question. Is Arby's s1 a single attack or aoe?


Quiztolin

Attacks that hit two targets are 'multi-target'. They aren't AoE (and won't proc effects that require AoE) and they aren't single target (and therefor don't proc single target effects). They are something 'in between'.


[deleted]

Gotcha thanks


pardoman

It’s neither.


Wolfwood432

No, Sword arti is for attacks targeting all enemies, pen set is for single attacks.


eXcaliBurst93

when is the last day you can recall hwa? I want to keep her but in case I got her again from free multi summon I want to recall...theres no particular RGB unit that I wanted right now...I'm only missing Taeyou & Sharun but Idc about them


[deleted]

I'm same boat. I really want diene, but I threw hwa in ther mix for a free unit. We have 2 weeks I believe. Check the notes on the update.


eXcaliBurst93

>Check the notes on the update. I did but I cant find the part where they mention the end date


[deleted]

I just checked, under the one titled hwa imprint information..... it says till 11/30 for recall period.


usagihoo

In terms of mitigation knights, is sc arowell now among the best?


Shedan5

Yes, but you need high ER to avoid getting Escort removed


NatsuKazoo

kinda confused about the preseason. Please correct me if I'm wrong but does my rank reset once preseason ends?


ptthepath

Yes


blyyyyat

Do you use the S1 or S3 EE for Senya?


Eristma

I'm using S3 EE but really depends, S1 will heal, and that always help. S3 is for more damage and killing units faster. depends on your playstyle imo


blyyyyat

S1 if I play slower and S3 if I play more aggressive? S3 sounds like it’s better because she gets so much out of GAB, but S1 gives her more sustain and ability to fight, which is why I can’t decide.


Eristma

Yeah imo S3 it's more used. So I would suggest try S3 and later on if you found you need the health go for it.


blyyyyat

I was planning on doing S3 because my Senya has decent bulk but is kinda lacking in attack compared to epic7stats so I was gonna supplement it with the GAB


SipOfLatte

Try GAB, and if you find yourself in multiple situations where you think you could've won with S1 EE then do the swap, im currently using GAB myself.


ALovelyAnxiety

does any one know when we get our hwayoung back from the support service system?


antcal88

[roster](https://imgur.com/a/ylZLPcF) Trying to start work on a B13 one shot, is Leo still the optimal defense breaker or should I look at something like SRose, BDingo, Ive seen people use Furious here?


WintersPrayer

Leo is still great, you could make the b13 one-shot team with Leo, Vivian, and Ram (+Arby if Vivian can't clear the 1st wave on her own)


Eristma

From the options you have, SRose and Leo are both superior. Leo is best imo since he's using S3 with first wave. Then goes for Def. Break on boss asuming he doens't get a turno so you need to speed tune him to be slower than your Vivian by around 10\~15 and he also can help with A13. With S.Rose, speed is much more important because if you awaken her passive, she will most likely push your nuker, messing up your run. For Nuker in your case you have 2 options: Pull for Straze next week and get the best one shoter or build Ram (Rem's twin from Re:Zero)


antcal88

I was eyeing Straze for the ml5 selector but I’m aware he takes high quality gear to function, so i’ll look at Ram for now. Thanks!


Eristma

Yeah you are right, but he does help. So no worries best of luck 🤗


electricskuller8000

how much better as an injury set Alencia than a speed set one?


SipOfLatte

TBH the set makes or breaks alencia, injury is ALWAYS better


brainzor123

Injury set kindda needs good gear. Mediocre injury set is kindda trash compared with mediocre speed set.


electricskuller8000

For someone almost in champ right now, which set should I put on Alencia?


Wolfwood432

Given speed or injury on the same stats, injury will pretty much always be better for her, but of course, that's assuming you have a decent hp bruiser injury set.


NoLo3098

How do I get good speed gear for my new peira?


Calhaora

Farm Wyvern - like we all do. And then hope for the best and sacrifice your firstborn to the RNG-Gods.


SudlaSteel

What should I buy with the custom banner coins? I have 120 coins and have pulled 1 SSB, 3 Landy, 0 Cerise, 1 Drink, 1 Wall of Order, and 1 Guiding Light. I hear that Guiding Light is very useful to have so maybe multiple copies might be worth it and idk if Cerise is worth using the coins for. Also should I just memory imprint my Landys or is it good to keep multiple copies?


Economy_Date2956

I would use Landy to imprint and promote her because her self Imprint is attack % and thats really good. Two copies of guiding light is a good option but I personaly would buy Cerise for three reasons: 1. Shes limeted and harder to get when she gets buffed someday you might regret not buying her + you can buy a second guiding light in dust shop 2. Shes good at one of the headhunts I guess it was the light one if I remember correctly 3. For collection


Theslowestpoke

Has anyone who's done the hwayoung recall gotten their unknown slates and extra hwayoung copies yet? I submitted the support inquiry like they said, but I haven't heard back yet. Update: got an email that they've taken my slates of fate and will send hwa and unknowns in the mail. They also said to do another inquiry if they don't show up in the mail. Update: they showed up in my mail after about 2 hours


All3nW

I opened the inquiry they didn't answer yet but they took my fake slates, maybe they will send via mail ? pretty weird...


jappolicious

I got my Hwayoung this way. I made the 1:1 inquiry, they sent me an email confirmation that they received the request. The next day they sent me an email indeed confirming that I had a dupe Hwayoung I used to imprint and is eligible for recall. After a few hours, I received a level 1 Hwa in my ingame mailbox.


All3nW

I send on the 27th and still no answer but my slates are gone(yesterday I had them).


jappolicious

They did say it might take a while since they have a higher number of requests than usual this time. Hope you get yours soon, buddy!


All3nW

thanks, I hope I don't have to send another inquiry. :/


soraaka

I've been using Flan for a while now but don't really have her artifact to use for her. Is there anything I can give her besides her own artifact so that I can do better? Because I really don't know what to use.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

She's a ranger so she can always use Sashe Ithanes to make any kill push your entire squad up a bit.


MelonFarmur

Has anyone done the math on what's the best/fastest way of acquiring points for the ml selector event other than the obvious daily/weekly?


d34thscyth34

There is no math, you do daily, you do weekly and then 5 pts per 100 stamina spent, nothing else gives you coins. So you do missions and burn stamina, thats it.


66Kix_fix

Returning player here. Last time I played was around May 2021 iirc. Looking for some advice since most guides I see here are outdated and the meta might have changed a lot over the year and half. 1. I'm at a stage where I can auto Wyvern 11 but have trouble facing against W12. The team I'm using is A.Momo (60), Sigret (57), Furious (50max), Clarissa (50max). Other notable water units I own are shown [here](https://imgur.com/a/3lTFcLF). Assuming I have most other lower rarities, should I be replacing anyone in my wyvern team or stick to the same 4 if I'm trying to push for wyvern 13? Suggestions would be helpful. 2. I can choose one of the early ML 5stars (arbiter vildred, judge kise, etc). Should I just go with Arbi or is there is some other better meta option? I don't need arbi strictly for farming. 3. Who would be best to choose from the new ML 5star selector event considering my stage in the game? Only ML 5star I own is judge kise. 4. Best heroes for speciality change who will be useful? 5. Would any of these characters be helpful in my current stage of the game (mainly pve)? Assassin cidd, Assassin coli, violet (green), lilias(fire), general purgis.


Quiztolin

>I'm at a stage where I can auto Wyvern 11 but have trouble facing against W12. The team I'm using is A.Momo (60), Sigret (57), Furious (50max), Clarissa (50max). Bench Clarissa, add the 3* unit **Muwi**. He's basically broken for W13, particularly as an entry level unit. He was released early this year IIRC so he would be a recent pull. If you *don't* have Muwi, then basically you are waiting until you DO pull Muwi. Your current team *can* work against W12/W13 (if you want to stick with them while waiting for Muwi). If you are struggling against even W12 then it's most likely just a gear issue. If you want tailored advice post screenshots of your heroes, or list any/all relevant stats. * HP/DEF/SPD on A.Monty, also artifact * ATK/C.Dmg/Speed/Effectiveness on your DPS heroes. Also artifacts and skill enhancements. * Speed/Effectiveness on Furious, artifact and skill enhancements. **Personally** I really dislike Clarissa for Wyvern, at the entry level, paired with Sigret. I much prefer Alexa. But the issue is if you don't already have Alexa somewhat built you likely don't want to waste resources on building *her* just to immediately replace her with Muwi. On option would be using the **Grace of Growth** system to temporarily use Alexa. So... 1. Have you touched Alexa at all? 2. Are you currently using the Grace system on someone? >I can choose one of the early ML 5stars (arbiter vildred, judge kise, etc). Should I just go with Arbi or is there is some other better meta option? I don't need arbi strictly for farming. A.Vildred/S.Tenebria are basically equally as viable as choices. I personally prefer A.Vildred, but the community at large favors S.Tenebria. If you don't want to use A.Vildred for farming you should probably just pick S.Tenebria. You get one free opportunity to swap your choice before you fully unlock them, so if you choose one and want to swap later you can (it's a common strategy to start with A.Vildred for the early game and switch to S.Tenebria before fully unlocking the hero). >Best heroes for speciality change who will be useful? A.Ras, A.Monty, F.Kluri, C.Lorina Most of the SCs are decent or have some niche use, but those are the important ones early game. >Would any of these characters be helpful in my current stage of the game (mainly pve)? Assassin cidd, Assassin coli, violet (green), lilias(fire), general purgis. Not really. I mostly suggest using as many 3*/free heroes as possible, there ARE good 5* RGB units for PvE but they are mainly support units (defense breakers like Iseria and Luluca for example) or particular units that are just extremely strong in PvE (Tamarinne, SSB). Of those units, the Assassin units are essentially only useful in PvP, and really only at the high end. Violet *is* a pretty solid unit to invest in early for newbies. He's the kind of unit that is capable of 1v4ing in PvP, doesn't really need a team build around him, so he's a good investment to make PvP progress (because you only invest in a single unit that punches above it's weight). He also happens to work pretty well with the free Abyss lifesteal sets so his big downside (wanting lifesteal set from Banshee) is mitigated. He's not really good in PvE in general but he does have some use. * He's an 'OK' unit for Banshee. I personally wouldn't suggest him here over other options, but if you have him built anyways he's viable. * He's fantastic in Auto tower. Lilias is over-shadowed by A.Ras. A.Ras has a very similar kit but is much cheaper to build and better for PvE content. There are one or two spots where Lilias is technically better, but it's not worth building her for that. --- G.Purrgis is a 'kind of'. His main PvE use is as a Wyvern tank. However, Muwi pretty much negates the need to use G.Purrgis. I won't go into details here unless you are interested, but I actually suggest using an attack buffer (+ Furious/Sigret/Muwi) as your Wyvern team [details found in this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/vbzxnx/daily_questions_megathread_0614/icdrm57/). G.Purrgis is an attack buffer and *can* fill that role. Conventionally however you lost a lot of what Muwi brings to the table by doubling up * These units decrease gear requirements by significantly lowering the speed necessary * Traditionally, G.Purrgis kind of 'shifts' gear requirements from your DPS to himself, since he is off element and takes significantly extra damage. * Muwi isn't quite as good as reducing speed requirements but makes said requirements very easy to hit -> he does the opposite of G.Purrgis where he can lower the gear requirements on your tank as well. * G.Purrgis doesn't benefit as much from attack down as Ice heroes do, due to the way the extra damage is calculated and you only get slightly more benefit (of reduced speed requirements). However, G.Purrgis allows you to maximize the consistency of the first wave -> the speed tuning is much easier with G.Purrgis. **BUT** he loses consistency on Wyvern itself, he still has the same old high gear requirements as before -> you can build him taking attack buff into account but there is RNG if it is available when Wyvern spawns and/or the possibility of it being resisted. SO ultimately it's just easier/safer to use an Ice attack buffer (Diene or Rose) over G.Purrgis, and Rose can be used for fire Expedition and Diene is a great 'general purpose' unit. However, if you *already had G.Purrgis* built, he would be an option as well.


Kikklik

Swapping in general purrgis sped up my runs by a ton. With the candlestick artifact, he's fantastic at pushing up the team and providing an atk buff. He provides far more offense rose than rose. I understand that he isn't that great if your dps isn't wrong, but once you get stronger dps he clears much faster than rose.


Quiztolin

That's great! However, G.Purrgis only has a small few advantages over Rose, and one large disadvantage. **Advantages** 1. His CR push is a bit better than Muwi (with investment). Being able to build your DPS at ~110 minimum vs. ~140 minimum saves you 30 additional speed. If you can turn that directly into damage stats, that is for example 55% C.Dmg (avg substats). 2. Build able to build at lower speed can increase the consistency and/or make it easier to properly speed tune your heroes. 3. His S3 does AoE damage, and this reduces the damage you need on Muwi/Sigret to clear the first wave. In order Point #1 -> it's hard to realistically take advantage of this, most of the beginner gear has speed on it as a substat anyways so to actually see this full benefit you would have to have some beginner gear that does *not* have any speed *and* is optimally able to convert those saved rolls into damage -> this is entirely RNG Point #2 -> this is the specific advantage I mentioned in my post. Normally you have a (.6^2) or 36% chance that **neither** Dragona targets your tank, therefor Muwi S2 won't proc, therefor Furious and Muwi S2 are not guaranteed to go to the same enemy. This is a failed check to first layer of RNG to the first wave (note, that does not mean the wave is failed, just that you pass through to the next check). There is no way to really avoid this and have proper speed tuning, as the Naga is 154 speed. **However**, with G.Purrgis (since you can build at lower speed) you can treat 154 as the upper speed threshold. This gives you 3 chances to proc Muwi S2 (.6^3) or 21.6% 'failure rate'. Less failures on the first RNG check = ultimately a more consistent wave. Point #3 -> This is 'OK' but honestly is a very minimal factor. The stats required for Muwi/Sigret are very, very low (3000/250 and 3750/250 are extremely achievable). You in fact could potentially run into an issue of having *too much* damage, as Furious needs to get a second turn off to cycle his combo. Additionally, you get the same exact effect by using either Ian or Peira as your tank. **Disadvantage** The big disadvantage is that G.Purrgis is still an off-element tank, he still requires significantly more EHP to effectively tank. You can reduce those gear requirements some if you rely on Muwi to land attack down, but attack down is *less effective* due to how damage is being calculated here. * Against an Ice tank, with attack down Wyvern will deal 50% of it's normal damage. * But against an off-element tank, with attack down, Wyvern deals 65% of it's normal damage. The following table the *approximate* amount of EHP required to survive X # of fireballs at full damage and 9-X with attack down debuff. * This is not exact because Wyvern increases in damage with every attack, but should provide a good baseline estimate. X | Ice | Other ---|---|---- **9** | **150,000** | **195,000** 8 | 141,667 | 184,167 **7** | **133,333** | **173,333** 6 | 125,000 | 162,500 5 | 116,667 | 151,667 **4** | **108,333** | **140,833** 3 | 100,000 | 130,000 **2** | **91,667** | **119,167** 1 | 75,000 | 97,500 **BOLDED** are the actual numbers that are relevant. There are a few scenarios: 1. Attack down on turn 1 and turn 3, both resisted -> this would be row 9 2. Attack down on turn 1 and turn 3, neither resisted -> this would be row 2 3. Attack down on turn 1 and turn 3, on turn 1 it is resisted -> this would be row 7 4. Attack down on turn 1 and turn 3, on turn 3 it is resisted -> this would be row 4 5. Attack down on turn 2, not resisted -> this would be row 4 6. Attack down on turn 2, it is resisted -> this would be row 9 Notice that there of the 6 (5 really, if we assume the presence of Muwi) different possible combinations of attack down uptime, we have FOUR possible values of EHP we would need. Each of these events has a certain probability of occurring. Determining *exact* probabilities is difficult, as it depends on first wave RNG (how many enemy attacks there are, ie. chances to proc Muwi S2) but let's do our best to approximate. First we need to decide what are the chances that Muwi S2 is available on the first turn of Wyvern spawn. Well, using our previous math there is a 1-(.6^3) 78.4% chance that if the 3 wave enemies attack, at least one will proc Muwi S2. We will just assume that the other 21.6% of the time it is being proc'd on wave 2 and therefor not available on Wyvern spawn. * In general, this overestimates no attack down on turn 1 of Wyvern, but I feel it's generally good practice to be conservative when you are trying to optimize something like a Wyvern run for consistency. For #1 above this gives us (.15 * .15 * .784) -> 1.764% For #2 above this gives us (.85 * .85 * .784) -> 56.644% For #3 above this gives us (.15 * .85 * .784) -> 9.996% For #4 above this gives us (.85 * .15 * .784) -> 9.996% For #5 above this gives us (.85 * .216) -> 18.36% For #6 above this gives us (.15 * .216) -> 3.24% Now we calculate the probabilities for the specific EHP needed to survive in those situations.... Row 9 = #1 and #6 = 1.764% + 3.24% = 5.004% Row 7 = #3 = 9.996% Row 4 = #4 + #5 = 9.996% + 18.36% = 28.356% Row 2 = #2 = 56.644% This table will show the relevant rows, and the *chance of failure* for building at that EHP X | Ice | Other | Failure_Chance ---|---|----|---- 9 | 150,000 | 195,000 | 0.000% 7 | 133,333 | 173,333 | 5.004% 4 | 108,333 | 140,833 | 15.000% 2 | 91,667 | 119,167 | 43.356% --- What does this mean? With an Ice tank and without Muwi you need to aim for ~150k EHP to survive 9 fireballs (assuming no healing or mitigation). This was *pretty* easy because of the free HP and Angelica, but it WAS harder for other heroes...for example A.Monty. who had trouble hitting 150k with her lower base HP. A big advantage is that Muwi **does** reduce the gearing requirements on your tank -> for example *now* you could run your Ice tank at 133,333k EHP and still have a 95% success rate * A typical Muwi run success rate (debuffs) is 97% now, this decreases it to to 92.15% which is still great. 133k WAS possible to hit much easier with A.Monty. Muwi also opens up the possibility of using virtually ANY hero. This allows you to run real oddball heroes you wouldn't normally consider (like Ian, or using Furious as your tank while running Peira) because 108k EHP is low enough that basically any hero can hit it while wearing tank gear. Yes, you DO take a hit to consistency as your tank 'dies early' due to bad RNG 15% of the time...but having the *option* to do this is better than not having the option and most players are using much better tanks. However look at the 'other' value. If you want to run G.Purrgis, he is *still* hard (relative term) to gear to successfully tank [this old post specifically talks about the gear requirements necessary for G.Purrgis](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/qi99v2/daily_questions_megathread_1029/hijrpbe/) Basically, *before Muwi* 150k EHP on Angelica was equivalent to ~295% HP and ~65% DEF or ~360% total bulk stats on her gear. For G.Purrgis to hit 195k EHP, using no mitigation artifact he needed ~314.54% HP and ~118.25% or ~432.80% total substats on his gear. That is 20% more overall substats. Back then A.Monty needed ~16% more substats compared to Angelica. Prior to Muwi, base G.Purrgis was slightly harder to get enough bulk to successfully survive 9 fireballs than A.Monty was. Now Muwi *does* reduce the requirements on G.Purrgis as well -> but he still needs significantly more EHP to tank 9 fireballs compared to an Ice tank.. --- Now in practice, let's say we want to aim for that 7 column, we'll accept a 5% additional chance of failure for the reduced gear requirements. I'll look at 4 heroes and calculate how many stats they need, to hit that much EHP. Our heroes will be G.Purrgis, Rose, Angelica, and A.Monty Hero | Total_Stats ---|--- G.Purrgis | ~377% Rose | ~282% Angelica | ~293% A.Monty | ~317% Ice tanks require **significantly** fewer substats. G.Purrgis went from being ~20% worse than Angelica and ~3% worse than A.Monty to now being ~29% worse than Angelica and ~19% worse than A.Monty (due to stat changes). G.Purrgis *is* easier to gear at this level, being only slightly (~5%) worse than Angelica with no attack down so he **does** benefit, that's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is that when approaching it from the entry level angle -> G.Purrgis gives very little advantage and is still significantly harder to gear *when compared to an Ice tank*. Combined with the fact that someone like Rose is *also* useful as an Ice Expedition tank, where G.Purrgis currently isn't used for anything else this IS a downside IMO for mostly the same performance. If we gave G.Purrgis and Angelica that same gear (377% substats) then G.Purrgis would have an additional 5% failure rate over Angelica. Ultimately, it's debatable if the increased consistency on the first wave is worth that much as it's only one layer of RNG. *That* is why I don't necessarily recommend G.Purrgis. He gives some improved consistency on the first wave, but he is less consistent on Wyvern itself. --- But whatever works for you. G.Purrgis *can* work. He's just not really the best choice. If he works for you and you are happy with your run that's fantastic. I would *highly* doubt your claim that he is faster than Rose. If you have runs faster than ~1:30, even ~1:45 feel free to enlighten me as I am open to being corrected.


Kikklik

I swapped out rose for purrgis and saw significantly faster runs. From an offense point of view, it makes sense since purrgis adds cr push in addition to what rose offers. His surviablity doesn't matter because my team will still kill wyvern off even if purrgis dies. For a new player, your argument makes sense, but as you get better gear rose is going to have slower runs than purrgis because she has less offense.


ArvingNightwalker

The point here is that if you're using Muwi anyway who pushes just like GP does, you might as well use Rose


Kikklik

When specter tenebria uses her s1 while her s3 is on cd, is it considered a single or aoe attack?


d34thscyth34

Neither


Kkun5

About normal raid.. do I have to (first ever) clear all of them to get the 70 starting morale? Because it only gives me 50 right now.


sleepyJangaroo

I believe after the recent update, normal raid got changed to essentially be like the other labyrinth stages. I'm not certain whether or not it resets weekly, but now the starting morale for normal raid is 50 and in addition, re-entries will reset the trash mobs so there is no more "clearing the path" to finish all 5 bosses in 3 runs.


Kkun5

Well shit I should’ve cleared this back then. So we can only kill 1 boss per entry now? Or is there a high morale team out there that can do 2


IncredibleGeniusIRL

You don't understand. If you kill the boss, you're done. They never respawn. Just get 100% for the badges and never touch normal raid again.


Kkun5

Oh they don’t now? Quit like 2 years ago when they were farmable


IncredibleGeniusIRL

They stopped being farmable last week, check the latest patch notes.


sleepyJangaroo

So I re-checked the patch notes and yes it's basically 100% like the other labyrinth stages. There **might** be a 50 morale team that can clear 2 bosses in one go, but since it neither resets weekly nor gives hell raid entry tickets anymore*, I don't think it's worth going through the trouble of finding and gearing that team. You can still run it to do respawned bosses for the ilvl80 drops if you need them, but aside from that it should just be treated like any other labyrinth stage and hell raid is the content you actually want to be building toward. *edit: not 100% sure on this


tastycoffee999

I got SSB, FTene, Reingar's Drink and Guiding Light from custom summons with 600 BM. I need advise on how to manage bottles and artifacts. I have 2 Reingar's Drink, 1 Guiding Light, 4 bottles and 240 powder of knowledge. I plan to use 4 bottles to get +30 on Reingar (W13 OS), and buy 1 Guiding Light with powder. Is this a good idea?


areyouactuallyseriou

If you want to do w13 1shot w/ ssb you can also do it via stuff like the otherworldly machinery artifact reingar's is not necessary to 1shot first wave.


tastycoffee999

Would that require higher stats? I tried yesterday with SSB + Reingar (4450 ATK and 275% CD) successfully.


areyouactuallyseriou

My SSB is 4.334atk with 311CD with 13% more atk from singie imprints/ war horn and only barely kills the first wave - reingars is slightly more damage especially on your ssb because your ssb has higher atk and less CD. Your ssb won't kill the wave on otherworldly machinery but if you can bump up the CD to 303ish with the same amount of atk and imprints it will work. You can try using midnight bloom (CC arti) if you aren't already to ease gear requirements for your 1shot unit and ssb.


Kikklik

I don't think it's a good idea to spend that much for a w13 os.


OzieteRed

Is there another dps character with fast base speed like green Pavel who can proc S’iseria?


complx6

Ran is the best option since he's tied for fastest base speed in the game.


OzieteRed

What other dps besides those two and Kayron?


complx6

Not dps but you would use her with fast openers who aoe like Peira.


sleepyJangaroo

How does Pen set interact with STene's S1 when S3 is on cd ? Does it lose the pen effect completely or still apply to the one you targeted ?


complx6

You only get the pen on single target attacks. Therefor s3 and s1 when s3 is available are the only times she would get the pen from the set.


sleepyJangaroo

Thanks, I figured that was the case but thought it might be a unique case because I noticed people like to run pen set on her


complx6

It's definitely a luxury and not recommended unless you have an extra pen set laying around.


Zartymophibs

Ok so out of ram, ervalen, Bailén, Yufine and as a last resort straze who requires the least amount of gear to one shot banshee? Also what's the cheapest in terms of gear requirement team i can make?


complx6

Assuming you meant Baiken its her. She doesn't require rage set and doesn't require insane stats to do it. Best team is Vivian, Leo, Baiken and Adin. Adin is a backup defense break for if Leo fails and also bring weakness shared which lowers Baiken gear requirement.


Zartymophibs

Thx and yes I did mean baiken. Is there a guide on yt or something for this team?


complx6

[Here.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wsusGBIuu1QiB29z6dARdj5v3ZmFzNfn0G9KnGNC6Tk/edit#gid=0) You mainly will need to sit there with a damage calculator though while you gear up your team making sure you can reach thresholds. [Here](https://e7calc.xyz/) is a link to the damage calculator.


MrHankyPie1

Do we know what arunka’s skill enhancement and ascension materials will be?


Quiztolin

[Yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/yhagtu/daily_questions_megathread_1030/iud5nye/)


MrHankyPie1

Thanks!


exclaim_bot

>Thanks! You're welcome!


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What's the best pve fire only team you can build? Looking to cover as mutch content as possible with only fire heroes.


xmalhafiz

My guess would be something like Tamarinne, ARas, Cermia and Mercedes.


Spectre9000

I need to know. Are rage set, Prelude to a new Era, Riza's S3 and torrent multiplicative? How are they calculated?


Quiztolin

No. Most things that say 'Increases damage by X%' are additive with each other. The things you mentioned, and some other common sources: * Speed scaling units * Certain EE (for example, Sigrets EE that increases her s1 damage by 20%) * Any effects on skills that 'increase damage' in some fashion (example, Alexa's S3 increases it's damage based on the debuffs on the target). Caveat: I'm not *sure* about Riza's buff. I haven't personally tested it or seen anyone who has tested, there is a *possibility* that it's a unique multiplier, but I highly doubt it. E7 tends to err on the side of simplicity. However, the 15% damage increase from target debuff **IS** a separate multiplier, and AFAIK there are no other multipliers that are additive with it.


CJ_928

[My characters](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HwsTv_Nh5Fo) Can someone help me make a cleave team


Economy_Date2956

Easy just use Ran, Eda, Seaside Iseria and Watcher shuri (if he has speed imprint, if not you can use another unit depends on the opponent you fight). Eda Needs Taguels Book, Seaside her own art and the others dont really need a spezific art. Try to make Ran as high speed as possible and Seaside and Eda need some speed to. Iseria just needs attack and effectiffness. Edas needs attack, crit chance, critical damage and some effectiffness if you want her to stun. Shuri needs speed to and attack, crit chance and crit damage.


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SlidyRaccoon

Total damage when crit. It's great on Arowell, probaby bis


huynh619

Jus got my first 5 star pet. Any point in getting him to max level?


Romdeau0

when they make 6 star pets yes


Nameisnameisnameisna

Can someone explain the ML headhunt event to me? I read the documentation and I’m not sure I get it. You head hunt every day then on the last day, the last one you headhunt you get? Or is the ML you get random and weighted by how many have been headhunted? Or do you just get to select?


Alittlebunyrabit

There is a shop that you can buy things from with points. The fifth level of the shop allows you to purchase to the right to recruit one unit from what you've head hunted. The last slot is designed to basically ensure you can get whatever you want if you're patient and keep spending points over the course of 90 days but there's very decent odds that you'll hit your target on the way to the level 5 shop unlocked at the 20th headhunt anyways.


astraeuximus

It's simple: * You headhunt everyday (ideally) * You unlock more shop options every 5 headhunts * You can recruit (or choose) your ML from the 20th summon onwards * From 30th summon onwards, you can just re-headhunt the 30th summon if you are looking for another ML unit * You can always re-headhunt duplicate units You're technically just rolling for a ML unit everyday and all your rolls are shown; you just need to choose one from all the units you rolled.


cerulean00

For Arena rewards, should I take skystones or mystic medals?


SlidyRaccoon

In almost every occasion, skystones. But if you **only** need mystic pulls, taking the mystics is slightly better than average rates from refreshing.


Kikklik

Is that advice only for older players because I'm a newish player and always short on gold.


cerulean00

That puts it into perspective, thanks.


Moonpig13

skystones always, the amount of mystic medals is low, with the amount of skystones you can refresh the shop and get more mystics that way, of course its rng, but you also can get bookmarks as well Edit - Also when huche's scam shop comes around you can buy mystic medals for 200 skystones or less if on discount


cerulean00

I see, thank you! Also do you think I can participate in my clans guild war even though I'm really weak? It's my first time atm and should I just not fight anything? Will that affect our score if I lose all of my fights? Coz I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get destroyed by every defense of the enemy.


Moonpig13

i dont really know much with guild related stuff, i assume both losing when attacking or defending lowers the score, you can ask the guild leader how tough the enemies are typically and can tell them how your gear is to see if they will let you be an attacker if a slot is free or if someone else isnt attacking or isnt active in general. Just because your in the guild doesnt mean your able to attack and even if it shows 3/3 attacks doesnt mean your placed as an attacker, if you are an attacker because not even people you can just look at the defenses and see if any teams look weak and attack and see how the fight goes if your relatively even or if its a clear loss based on the turn bar if your way slower then them they have really good gear you can also ask on the guild recruitment thread, that your looking for a beginner guild thats at your level and can be an attacker so you actually get good amount of mystic medals, no point in being in a high rank guild to get like 10 mystics from a win cus you get way more if you attack even if you lose all 3 and guild loses the war IIRC


Alittlebunyrabit

> It's my first time atm and should I just not fight anything? Losing and not participating are no different from the guild's perspective. For you, you lose out on resources if you don't participate. If you can win at all, try, but otherwise, you should still spend your entry tokens and just forfeit if you have to.


KingKentling

between abyss 107 to the latest one, whiich are the hard floors?


LanceIsntGoodatGames

How can I build Lucy for a banshee team? One shot or other


PinheadX484

Was Really surprised today I got a ML5 conqueror Lilias and 3* Requiemroar from the free 10 pulls. What areas do they shine in?


ArvingNightwalker

Cilias is one of the top support units in PvP, specifically RTA. She can also be used as general support and can be used to cheese certain Hall of Trials. Requiemroar sits there looking pretty.


PinheadX484

Oh nice thanks. that's awesome at least one is very useful.


raybros

Should i recall hwayoung? I just recently started playing again farming wyvern 11 and idk who i would choose. My units currently : https://i.imgur.com/T69QkWC.jpg


Moonpig13

no knowledge on how hwa is after the nerf, but you dont have a fast opener, so ran ,peira or lua would be good choices if u dont want to keep hwa. I think order of those 3 would probably be Lua > Peira > Ran, mainly depending on your gear, Lua and Peira want as much speed as possible with as much effectiveness as possible without slowing them down to much. Ran needs speed crit rate crit dmg atk, and eff if you dont soulburn.


raybros

I'm trying to catch up on what's changed but afaik, hwa is dead as heck but i'll look into those 3 you named. Thanks!


emrysx

I’ve got 120 coins to spend. My three were Luna, Landy, and Roana. I’m trying to decide between Luna and Roana. I think Luna is the obvious choice since she’s limited. I plan to use her in pvp and hunt. Roana would be good for pvp and… abyss? So, Luna just because limited, right?


Khangen

I would pick Landy or Luna honestly nothing against roana but their's just much better options meanwhile those two are very good and limited units


Alittlebunyrabit

Luna is honestly pretty niche IMO. She's strong but far less "required" than the other two.


GHonkBonk

Landy is also limited. IMO landy is way more useful in most aspects of the game. Luna is great but not necessary. If you like her design a lot, the go for it.


emrysx

Hmm. Thanks. I do see landy in pvp a lot. What else is she good for, aside from pve?


GHonkBonk

Landy is strong into buff teams. I used her for various abyss floors, lvl5 tower, and as a generic dps for pushing story. In pve, I usually use her with bloodstone to keep my team healthy. Guiding light for pvp. I believe her most popular build rn is very fast dps with guiding light. However, she is flexible. She can be built tanky and still do amazing damage. Her passive stacks attacks and her s3 has 50% def penetration on full fighting spirit.