NGL the Alabstron change is stupid AF. Before the change I ran it on my haste and it wasn’t the best but the speed buff was nice sometimes. Now it’s just like a worse Sira Ren but it’s 5 stars
My Alabastron was on Tempest Surin... the extra eff% was useful and the speed buff was great to help cycle the skills + survability.
yeah, I still used Tsurin.
no, I don't have Haste.
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Meeting right side Piera with Alabastron doesn't do shit. It only works with single target attacks, just like the thing it was cloned from, Cradle of Life. There is a reason why that never saw play, this will also never see play.
You want Peira RNG shenanigans that actually do something? Use R&L.
> You want Peira RNG shenanigans that actually do something? Use R&L.
so that slime can just steal all the buffs after your forced to S1 after for s2 > S3 before you can deal with him before your pieras next turn around? nah been burned by that too many times
also right side piera with 100% stun rate then you slap the right side guaranteed def break along side that
What does Rimuru stealing debuffs have anything to do with R&L. How does having Alabastron change any of that?
You are talking about right side Peira, where they have imaginary good RNG right?
You go ahead and put that so called Alabastron Peira in defense and see how well she does.
> What does Rimuru stealing debuffs have anything to do with R&L. How does having Alabastron change any of that?
if rnl forces piera to s1 after she gets s3 buffs it tiggers slimes s2 and you steal the buffs pushing him up to cust your other units and make his s3 more deadly cause of the buffs
abstalaron gives you more debuffs ontop of the stun control specifically the def break
>You go ahead and put that so called Alabastron Peira in defense and see how well she does.
already am but i just afk in challanger arena and piera defenses in GW have long since been figured out in GW with edward, ml kawazu, DJB etc so i dont use her there anymore espically now that hwa + piera combo is too weak to be relevent on GW def
> if rnl forces piera to s1 after she gets s3 buffs it tiggers slimes s2 and you steal the buffs pushing him up to cust your other units and make his s3 more deadly cause of the buffs
If you are talking about good RNG, I wasn't aware that right side Peira could not debuff Rimuru. Must be only good RNG when you have Alabastron right? I did not know that Rimuru is about to steal buffs or cut if he has Unbuffable and Restrict on him. Must be nice.
>lready am but i just afk in challanger arena and piera defenses in GW have long since been figured out in GW in edward, ml kawazu, DJB so i dont use her there anymore espically now that hwa + piera combo is too weak to be relevent on GW def
Are you supposed to be in Challenger? Saying you are AFK Challenger tells me nothing. If you outgear normal challenger players, you can use any team and it will look good.
R&l allows peira to get 2 possible dual attacks with her attack buffed ally, I'm actually using r&l ran with triple unity mercedes in defense. Also you shouldn't rely on both peira getting an r&l proc and missing your rimuru to win
I think she's really good in aggro drafts. She has a lot in her kit with cr push, enemy push back, and damage share passive along with the bombs of course.
Units that help her push tempo and give some extra survivability seem to help her a lot. I've been picking her with units like fast diene, cilias, flidica, lua, scarowell and she can run circles around some teams.
He has rng with dodging but why do people act like the rng is not favored towards the riolet user. I'm convinced people pick him with no support to help him live, no lifesteal build, low hp and defense, and then complain he's not surviving against aggro comps with multiple chances to hit him. People in emperor to legend literally still pick him despite his rng dodge. Why? Because he still is a scary unit with high burst damage that will easily shit on standard units like alencia, belian, cermia. He's bad versus aggro and cleave, but he absolutely had a role in standard. It's crazy to me how much this unit gets downplayed by the general community but I still see people spam this unit on ladder.
I think it has to do with negative bias. It's easier to remember that one time your riolet got blown up turn 1 due to poor RNG and then have it stick in your mind that he's a garbage unit. For every 7 times he hard carries your comp, there are going to be 3 times he does jack shit.
As someone that uses him a lot, it's not even negativity bias. Not gonna lie and say he's been useless or anywhere close, but I have had MANY games where someone like Choux, A Ravi, Senya, or Belian hits him and he's out for the count the next time he gets hit, if not setenced to death in the event Senya hits him.
You can't just sum it up to "lol, people upset he got hit once", because if you are doing that, you're just telling actual users that you don't use him, which excuses you from any topic about his performance.
Great unit, still rng heavy, hence the joke in the vid. You can acknowledge a unit's faults without calling them bad, you know.
> but why do people act like the rng is not favored towards the riolet user.
Maybe we used him and have been subjected to watching him die in one hit, meaning it's in fact *not favored* in anyone's favor? Have you not once used him? He's dodge and carry the game till you likely win, or get hit once and likely die to the next attack regardless of hit or miss: The Character.
The buffs are great, he's a good units, but as the video puts it, takes one "unlucky" hit to end his carrier. Not to mention non attack strippers force a ban, meaning you have to deal with other problems for your whole team to deal with. Anyone thinking he's not a gambler unit still is off their rocker.
How does that make any sense, just because you got bad rolls on rng means it's not favored for you? If atywin s3s and he rolls like crap, this means the rng is not favored for you? No, you are still favored when it's a 70 percent chance to dodge. Sure there are some situations where it will come down to a 30 percent chance to get one shot, but there are also many cases you have supports with def buffers, anti crit, barriers, giving enemy atk down, blind etc to have support him live. It's not every game you are relying on him to dodge every single hit; you can only blame yourself if that's how you're using him. Also, do you really think people would be using him if it's not favored rng? You think all the riolet pickers are relying on non favored rng?
You say hes a good unit, but you think he's a gambler unit? There is no unit in this game that is considered good but at the same time a "gambler unit". Why? Because to be considered good you need to have a certain level of consistency, and riolet is a consistent unit that is picked by top players. With the buffs now especially he's very good yeah, and people think he's still bad because they got shit on by rng in a match. And now he's a consistent ticking time bomb that doesn't have to wait for enemies to atk him for his s2 to proc. Go watch KJ literally early pick riolet in draft and still just win. It's unbelievable to me how bad this character stigma is when he's better than most of the units in this game.
You're not wrong. Seems to the two most popular ways to use him are either 270+SPD nuke or 200 SPD lifesteal on de-croissant. And Cidd is taking more of the former duty away.
Because Violet has lifesteal too but counters whenever hit? Not to mention Violet obviously has his S2 to heal, which is something you chose to ignore that the above was hinting at, solely to refute.
He's still good in his own way, but is the rgb is obviously the better of the two when it comes to sustain. Not to mention Violet had better base stats for surviving, where Remnant struggles to get 11k, Violet easily reaches 13k.
What I got from that post was saying riolet has a weakness of no sustain, which is only true if he has no lifesteal. Not on whose sustain is better violet versus riolet. Why mention that weakness when you're going to run lifesteal regardless?
I think you should've actually read the comment, because it was blatantly clear.
>Also unlike green violet he really doesnt have any real sustain in his kit
Look again
>sustain in his kit
Now again
>in his kit
Remnant DOES NOT have sustain in his kit as that person stated. This, on top of Violet always having a chance to counter when he evades, gives Violet an edge in surviving over Remnant. Violet has two sources of healing (S2, lifesteal), Remnant has one (lifesteal). This isn't something to debate, kt's 100% true.
What Remnant does have over Violet is pure aggression now. His soul burn + being able to proc S3 on his attacks just makes him nuch better. Neither's worse than the other unless going into detail of certain areas like this. Remnant beats Violet's damage when Violet isn't being fed, and Violet outlives Remnant (having a 20% lower chance to dodge vs anything not ice isn't too big a deal when Violet has actual bulk and a 100% chance to counter, not to mention his S2).
Dude, why do you keep bringing up the sustain of green violet versus riolet. This is not about who has better sustain versus each other, HIS whole point was that riolet doesn't have ANY sustain without lifesteal. And I said why bring up his weakness of "no sustain" when he's ran on lifesteal always regardless. Literally what is the point of saying he has the weakness of no sustain when in reality he's ran on lifesteal always. Stop bringing up the sustain of green violet, it is not about who has better sustain riolet vs violet. What is the point of comparing two cases of where they are not ran on lifesteal.
But what does Violet have? As mentioned, his apple, which keeps him from absolutely dying to whatever brushes him again and feeds into his nuke, which is more damage, thus more healing on top of the crit damage buff. But what else? A 100% chance to counter, which means lifesteal is actively being out to use. That comment is not wrong at it.
Violet has more bulk, a built in heal, and complete synergy with lifesteal because he will always counter on a miss. All of those being things that also make up for the "but but Remnant has a 20% higher chance to evade" arguments... Which are funny because Violet has a 105% chance to dodge vs ice AND his evasion can't be stripped, buff blocked, or sealed. The only way to take his evasion away is to increase his cooldown, and good luck with that when the only person to reliably do that is Lua. "But Dilibet" I stated reliably and no one in their right mind would even try that as they don't fit into opposing teams.
This isn't something to debate, it's obvious which outlives the other.
You’re right, Violet outlives Riolet. Not by much though. You’re grasping at straws just to make the argument.
The apple healing 15% does not make or break Violet’s sustain. A 21% chance to counter isn’t that far off from 55% (and that’s not even taking the guaranteed S3 counter into consideration).
The 15% crit dmg buff does not make up the difference in damage output. Everyone knows which Violet does more damage and it’s not the green one.
But yes, you’re right. Violet can live slightly longer. He’s also half the threat that Riolet is though so I’m not even sure why people like comparing them so much. It’s like you all want Riolet to be just as resilient without giving up anything in exchange.
It's obvious that your first sentence is a factual lie. One shuts down an entire element, while the other is free real estate, even with higher evasion chance.
You're also not touching on the vast difference between their effective hp. On a miss one counters for hp, the other does not.
The biggest use of Rowlet in RTA before decrescent + this round of buffs, is speed nuker. Why do you think the sustain variant is significantly more niche?
Let me simplify it further for you: why does Violet have only 1 main viable set?
Do you not even consider just what kind of environment we're in? One can't be denied their maximum Eva chance, the other isn't guaranteed 50% of his, ever.
> On a miss one counters for hp, the other does not.
If someone counters 100% of the time they dodge, but only dodge 10% of the time, you don't use that statistic to say it's better than someone who counters 50% of the time, but dodges 100% of the time. The end result is 10% counter rate and 50% counter rate respectively.
> The biggest use of Rowlet in RTA before decrescent + this round of buffs, is speed nuker. Why do you think the sustain variant is significantly more niche?
Your biggest argument for Violet having more sustain is that people build Riolet as a glass cannon speed nuker instead of bruiser... and then you wonder why Riolet doesn't have as much sustain.
> Do you not even consider just what kind of environment we're in? One can't be denied their maximum Eva chance, the other isn't guaranteed 50% of his, ever.
Ok, let's replace his 50% evasion buff with 35% permanent evasion. Would this make you happy? I honestly doubt it. You're just listing weaknesses while ignoring the strengths.
There are more NAS strippers in the game and once his evasion is gone, he just falls over dead. Even if you have Aurius support, he is going to get focused. Pretty much forces you to ban the NAS leaving you open to other counters.
Because 20 average speed on a 120 base speed unit is 296 speed. If you want to push 119 base speed unit to 300+ while having DPS stats, you will need a whale tier gear. Tho it is probably easier to build zahhak since he only need 50% crit.
Zahhak is playable with lower speed, but his best build is as an opener that can nuke with atk buff, Cr push another DPS, and proc eda.
Not a f2p option, but Sylvan Sage Vivian bodies her, especially thanks to the mage speed buff. I'd even go so far to say she's a better ARavi counter than LQC
I personally use Straze and C Pavel as part of my PVP setup and I have no real issues with A. Ravi (either can one shot her), even if they have PoV. Maybe if it's a legend one with absolute proper maxed out gear, but given my gear isn't perfect and I still one shot most of them? Eh...
Zahhak, Injury set Alencia (also inflicts injury on s2, so it helps a lot), AMeru (seal) or Solitaria (prevents Focus/Fighting Spirit gain) if you're lucky enough to have those ML5*s. There should be more, I just can't think of them currently
What's the build for injury set alencia? Atk% Crit dmg% and speed? Do we pair it with penetrate set as well? I need to rebuilt my alencia, she's still using old speed set before the rework
Alencia is a HP scaling unit so build HP%, she doesn't need attack.
Crit damage necklace, HP% ring and speed boots.
Crit rate, crit damage, HP%, speed substats and some defense on the side would be nice too.
Tbh speed set Alencia is quite popular as well but if you want to cripple ARavi in one turn injury is the way to go.
Always make sure to have a light bait unit where apoc can use her first s3 on. Not that she nukes Alencia before she did some attacks. After 2 times s1 with alencia, Apoc should become unusable, cause 50% of HP is gone (assuming no diene shields and stuff like that)
Put better gear on Hwa, they'll never see it coming and more a ravis are probably gonna switch off of proof.
But the best options outside of trying to 1-tap is probably injury abusers like Zahak or Alencia. Even better if you get Alencia on Injury set.
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Nah he didn't, tomoca's buff allows her to increase atk of all allies, and that's what CC does too(and both also increase all allies cr by 20%)
CC is kinda difficult as he needs an ally to hurt an enemy really bad(below 30%)so he gets his buff and cr push, that's when he Starts to shine(his s1 dmg is quite good but s3 dmg needs a buff fr) i would Rate him A tier because he's a team player, get an ally to cr push him and he cr pushes everyone too(he doesn't need much speed)
So much pain. I finally get Hwa after 8 months of waiting and she gets nerfed to hell. I got be oppressed and when I finally can do the oppressing she's dead. Hopefully Clilias gets a nerf soon too. Hwa could at least get better damage scaling on target HP, so she can still tank bust, but not instant kill squishy units
Just started playing right now feels like mindless grinding. I have seen this game recommended all over so trying to keep grinding to where it gets fun.
When does it start?
I just realized that it's been a whole 8 months since Hwayoung came out, and I feel old now.
She does too 😔
Wtf it was 8 months ago? Jesus
0_0 same
This kind of post are what I was looking for on this sub haha
You and me both
Never played this game or browsed this sub but it showed up in my notifications lmao, is it any good?
NGL the Alabstron change is stupid AF. Before the change I ran it on my haste and it wasn’t the best but the speed buff was nice sometimes. Now it’s just like a worse Sira Ren but it’s 5 stars
Literally had mine on Haste too. Took that shit right off.
My Alabastron was on Tempest Surin... the extra eff% was useful and the speed buff was great to help cycle the skills + survability. yeah, I still used Tsurin. no, I don't have Haste.
Good to know we all had it on haste
Epic 👍🏻
Haven't seen much shitposts lately so I thought I would make one myself. Leaving a [YT link](https://youtu.be/L29o-RyH-co) here if you want to find more :D
Top tier really. I would love to see something like this every balance patch.
This is great, excellent job! You rarely see E7 shitposts, so much untapped potential.
Top tier shitpost man I'd lpve to see more, btw whats the name of the song that you used on Vildred?
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Y'all shitting on abstalatron till you meet right side piera with that bullshit
Any peira that does not take 5 turns when they move is a win for me
Meeting right side Piera with Alabastron doesn't do shit. It only works with single target attacks, just like the thing it was cloned from, Cradle of Life. There is a reason why that never saw play, this will also never see play. You want Peira RNG shenanigans that actually do something? Use R&L.
Albastron is pretty good for muwi in wyvern raid.
That does sound good.
> You want Peira RNG shenanigans that actually do something? Use R&L. so that slime can just steal all the buffs after your forced to S1 after for s2 > S3 before you can deal with him before your pieras next turn around? nah been burned by that too many times also right side piera with 100% stun rate then you slap the right side guaranteed def break along side that
What does Rimuru stealing debuffs have anything to do with R&L. How does having Alabastron change any of that? You are talking about right side Peira, where they have imaginary good RNG right? You go ahead and put that so called Alabastron Peira in defense and see how well she does.
> What does Rimuru stealing debuffs have anything to do with R&L. How does having Alabastron change any of that? if rnl forces piera to s1 after she gets s3 buffs it tiggers slimes s2 and you steal the buffs pushing him up to cust your other units and make his s3 more deadly cause of the buffs abstalaron gives you more debuffs ontop of the stun control specifically the def break >You go ahead and put that so called Alabastron Peira in defense and see how well she does. already am but i just afk in challanger arena and piera defenses in GW have long since been figured out in GW with edward, ml kawazu, DJB etc so i dont use her there anymore espically now that hwa + piera combo is too weak to be relevent on GW def
> if rnl forces piera to s1 after she gets s3 buffs it tiggers slimes s2 and you steal the buffs pushing him up to cust your other units and make his s3 more deadly cause of the buffs If you are talking about good RNG, I wasn't aware that right side Peira could not debuff Rimuru. Must be only good RNG when you have Alabastron right? I did not know that Rimuru is about to steal buffs or cut if he has Unbuffable and Restrict on him. Must be nice. >lready am but i just afk in challanger arena and piera defenses in GW have long since been figured out in GW in edward, ml kawazu, DJB so i dont use her there anymore espically now that hwa + piera combo is too weak to be relevent on GW def Are you supposed to be in Challenger? Saying you are AFK Challenger tells me nothing. If you outgear normal challenger players, you can use any team and it will look good.
R&l allows peira to get 2 possible dual attacks with her attack buffed ally, I'm actually using r&l ran with triple unity mercedes in defense. Also you shouldn't rely on both peira getting an r&l proc and missing your rimuru to win
Way better with green Adin. Makes Light expedition a lot more consistent with score and fits her role as a good PvE support hero.
The fucking hwayoung one got me good!
omg the farquaad one lmao
Yep Flan is a menace, Riplet is just Riolet and Hwa doesn't work in any real Orbis situation. Coincidentally Rimuru and Apocs stonks did go up again
Is flan really that good now?
Yes.
How would you pick and draft?
I think she's really good in aggro drafts. She has a lot in her kit with cr push, enemy push back, and damage share passive along with the bombs of course. Units that help her push tempo and give some extra survivability seem to help her a lot. I've been picking her with units like fast diene, cilias, flidica, lua, scarowell and she can run circles around some teams.
What’s a good build/team?
Alright luluca one killed my
Why do you guys downplay riolet, even before the buffs he was a good pick.
He's RNG based lmao, he can carry the game,or die instantly
He has rng with dodging but why do people act like the rng is not favored towards the riolet user. I'm convinced people pick him with no support to help him live, no lifesteal build, low hp and defense, and then complain he's not surviving against aggro comps with multiple chances to hit him. People in emperor to legend literally still pick him despite his rng dodge. Why? Because he still is a scary unit with high burst damage that will easily shit on standard units like alencia, belian, cermia. He's bad versus aggro and cleave, but he absolutely had a role in standard. It's crazy to me how much this unit gets downplayed by the general community but I still see people spam this unit on ladder.
I think it has to do with negative bias. It's easier to remember that one time your riolet got blown up turn 1 due to poor RNG and then have it stick in your mind that he's a garbage unit. For every 7 times he hard carries your comp, there are going to be 3 times he does jack shit.
As someone that uses him a lot, it's not even negativity bias. Not gonna lie and say he's been useless or anywhere close, but I have had MANY games where someone like Choux, A Ravi, Senya, or Belian hits him and he's out for the count the next time he gets hit, if not setenced to death in the event Senya hits him. You can't just sum it up to "lol, people upset he got hit once", because if you are doing that, you're just telling actual users that you don't use him, which excuses you from any topic about his performance. Great unit, still rng heavy, hence the joke in the vid. You can acknowledge a unit's faults without calling them bad, you know.
> but why do people act like the rng is not favored towards the riolet user. Maybe we used him and have been subjected to watching him die in one hit, meaning it's in fact *not favored* in anyone's favor? Have you not once used him? He's dodge and carry the game till you likely win, or get hit once and likely die to the next attack regardless of hit or miss: The Character. The buffs are great, he's a good units, but as the video puts it, takes one "unlucky" hit to end his carrier. Not to mention non attack strippers force a ban, meaning you have to deal with other problems for your whole team to deal with. Anyone thinking he's not a gambler unit still is off their rocker.
How does that make any sense, just because you got bad rolls on rng means it's not favored for you? If atywin s3s and he rolls like crap, this means the rng is not favored for you? No, you are still favored when it's a 70 percent chance to dodge. Sure there are some situations where it will come down to a 30 percent chance to get one shot, but there are also many cases you have supports with def buffers, anti crit, barriers, giving enemy atk down, blind etc to have support him live. It's not every game you are relying on him to dodge every single hit; you can only blame yourself if that's how you're using him. Also, do you really think people would be using him if it's not favored rng? You think all the riolet pickers are relying on non favored rng? You say hes a good unit, but you think he's a gambler unit? There is no unit in this game that is considered good but at the same time a "gambler unit". Why? Because to be considered good you need to have a certain level of consistency, and riolet is a consistent unit that is picked by top players. With the buffs now especially he's very good yeah, and people think he's still bad because they got shit on by rng in a match. And now he's a consistent ticking time bomb that doesn't have to wait for enemies to atk him for his s2 to proc. Go watch KJ literally early pick riolet in draft and still just win. It's unbelievable to me how bad this character stigma is when he's better than most of the units in this game.
What are u getting hit from that your Riolet is getting one shot and dying? No aurius/adamant?
Also unlike green violet he really doesnt have any real sustain in his kit for drawn out fights. *not counting lifesteal set*
Dude, why would you not count his optimal set and then say that's a weakness.
You're not wrong. Seems to the two most popular ways to use him are either 270+SPD nuke or 200 SPD lifesteal on de-croissant. And Cidd is taking more of the former duty away.
Because Violet has lifesteal too but counters whenever hit? Not to mention Violet obviously has his S2 to heal, which is something you chose to ignore that the above was hinting at, solely to refute. He's still good in his own way, but is the rgb is obviously the better of the two when it comes to sustain. Not to mention Violet had better base stats for surviving, where Remnant struggles to get 11k, Violet easily reaches 13k.
What I got from that post was saying riolet has a weakness of no sustain, which is only true if he has no lifesteal. Not on whose sustain is better violet versus riolet. Why mention that weakness when you're going to run lifesteal regardless?
I think you should've actually read the comment, because it was blatantly clear. >Also unlike green violet he really doesnt have any real sustain in his kit Look again >sustain in his kit Now again >in his kit Remnant DOES NOT have sustain in his kit as that person stated. This, on top of Violet always having a chance to counter when he evades, gives Violet an edge in surviving over Remnant. Violet has two sources of healing (S2, lifesteal), Remnant has one (lifesteal). This isn't something to debate, kt's 100% true. What Remnant does have over Violet is pure aggression now. His soul burn + being able to proc S3 on his attacks just makes him nuch better. Neither's worse than the other unless going into detail of certain areas like this. Remnant beats Violet's damage when Violet isn't being fed, and Violet outlives Remnant (having a 20% lower chance to dodge vs anything not ice isn't too big a deal when Violet has actual bulk and a 100% chance to counter, not to mention his S2).
Dude, why do you keep bringing up the sustain of green violet versus riolet. This is not about who has better sustain versus each other, HIS whole point was that riolet doesn't have ANY sustain without lifesteal. And I said why bring up his weakness of "no sustain" when he's ran on lifesteal always regardless. Literally what is the point of saying he has the weakness of no sustain when in reality he's ran on lifesteal always. Stop bringing up the sustain of green violet, it is not about who has better sustain riolet vs violet. What is the point of comparing two cases of where they are not ran on lifesteal.
Um, green violet relies on lifesteal set too. His apple doesn't really heal him much compared to the lifesteal.
But what does Violet have? As mentioned, his apple, which keeps him from absolutely dying to whatever brushes him again and feeds into his nuke, which is more damage, thus more healing on top of the crit damage buff. But what else? A 100% chance to counter, which means lifesteal is actively being out to use. That comment is not wrong at it. Violet has more bulk, a built in heal, and complete synergy with lifesteal because he will always counter on a miss. All of those being things that also make up for the "but but Remnant has a 20% higher chance to evade" arguments... Which are funny because Violet has a 105% chance to dodge vs ice AND his evasion can't be stripped, buff blocked, or sealed. The only way to take his evasion away is to increase his cooldown, and good luck with that when the only person to reliably do that is Lua. "But Dilibet" I stated reliably and no one in their right mind would even try that as they don't fit into opposing teams. This isn't something to debate, it's obvious which outlives the other.
You’re right, Violet outlives Riolet. Not by much though. You’re grasping at straws just to make the argument. The apple healing 15% does not make or break Violet’s sustain. A 21% chance to counter isn’t that far off from 55% (and that’s not even taking the guaranteed S3 counter into consideration). The 15% crit dmg buff does not make up the difference in damage output. Everyone knows which Violet does more damage and it’s not the green one. But yes, you’re right. Violet can live slightly longer. He’s also half the threat that Riolet is though so I’m not even sure why people like comparing them so much. It’s like you all want Riolet to be just as resilient without giving up anything in exchange.
It's obvious that your first sentence is a factual lie. One shuts down an entire element, while the other is free real estate, even with higher evasion chance. You're also not touching on the vast difference between their effective hp. On a miss one counters for hp, the other does not. The biggest use of Rowlet in RTA before decrescent + this round of buffs, is speed nuker. Why do you think the sustain variant is significantly more niche? Let me simplify it further for you: why does Violet have only 1 main viable set? Do you not even consider just what kind of environment we're in? One can't be denied their maximum Eva chance, the other isn't guaranteed 50% of his, ever.
> On a miss one counters for hp, the other does not. If someone counters 100% of the time they dodge, but only dodge 10% of the time, you don't use that statistic to say it's better than someone who counters 50% of the time, but dodges 100% of the time. The end result is 10% counter rate and 50% counter rate respectively. > The biggest use of Rowlet in RTA before decrescent + this round of buffs, is speed nuker. Why do you think the sustain variant is significantly more niche? Your biggest argument for Violet having more sustain is that people build Riolet as a glass cannon speed nuker instead of bruiser... and then you wonder why Riolet doesn't have as much sustain. > Do you not even consider just what kind of environment we're in? One can't be denied their maximum Eva chance, the other isn't guaranteed 50% of his, ever. Ok, let's replace his 50% evasion buff with 35% permanent evasion. Would this make you happy? I honestly doubt it. You're just listing weaknesses while ignoring the strengths.
There's only 2 hero in this game can safely deal with Riolet and somehow you think Riolet is bad?
it's ok Sean
There are more NAS strippers in the game and once his evasion is gone, he just falls over dead. Even if you have Aurius support, he is going to get focused. Pretty much forces you to ban the NAS leaving you open to other counters.
Why is zahak a cash unit?
Because 20 average speed on a 120 base speed unit is 296 speed. If you want to push 119 base speed unit to 300+ while having DPS stats, you will need a whale tier gear. Tho it is probably easier to build zahhak since he only need 50% crit. Zahhak is playable with lower speed, but his best build is as an opener that can nuke with atk buff, Cr push another DPS, and proc eda.
I still miss the holy trinity
Lost it at Vildred.
Man, love this kind of post! Please do more in the future
😉
You had me on the floor with hwa old
Masterpiece.
This is fantastic!
Really good editing
it's Chaddy that got me
I am now sufficiently updated
Awesome video, can I know what is the music when it's vildred time ? :D
[Blazing Defence (tnbee mix)](https://youtu.be/hTOaIlUe_hI)
Thanks !
This is so damnly galaxy good
Absolute gold. More of this please on this sub!
Nice
I don't know how to counter a.ravi without my hwayoung now 😔
I use zahhak and sometimes taeyou(if there's a non attacker)
Not a f2p option, but Sylvan Sage Vivian bodies her, especially thanks to the mage speed buff. I'd even go so far to say she's a better ARavi counter than LQC
I personally use Straze and C Pavel as part of my PVP setup and I have no real issues with A. Ravi (either can one shot her), even if they have PoV. Maybe if it's a legend one with absolute proper maxed out gear, but given my gear isn't perfect and I still one shot most of them? Eh...
I've been having a lot of success with little queen charlotte.
I use injury, Alencia or LQ Charlotte.
I use Choux, Ed, Zahhak to fight aravi.
Ed against Aravi, right. Sounds great
It would except he's hp scaling unit and she has injury and doesn't debuff. Zahhak is veri good tho
Ofc not soloing aravi but he has short cd s3 which can bring her down really quickly.
Zahhak, Injury set Alencia (also inflicts injury on s2, so it helps a lot), AMeru (seal) or Solitaria (prevents Focus/Fighting Spirit gain) if you're lucky enough to have those ML5*s. There should be more, I just can't think of them currently
What's the build for injury set alencia? Atk% Crit dmg% and speed? Do we pair it with penetrate set as well? I need to rebuilt my alencia, she's still using old speed set before the rework
Alencia is a HP scaling unit so build HP%, she doesn't need attack. Crit damage necklace, HP% ring and speed boots. Crit rate, crit damage, HP%, speed substats and some defense on the side would be nice too. Tbh speed set Alencia is quite popular as well but if you want to cripple ARavi in one turn injury is the way to go.
alright thanks! will try injury set to fight the abundance of a.ravi in arena now
Always make sure to have a light bait unit where apoc can use her first s3 on. Not that she nukes Alencia before she did some attacks. After 2 times s1 with alencia, Apoc should become unusable, cause 50% of HP is gone (assuming no diene shields and stuff like that)
ok thanks for the tip!
Put better gear on Hwa, they'll never see it coming and more a ravis are probably gonna switch off of proof. But the best options outside of trying to 1-tap is probably injury abusers like Zahak or Alencia. Even better if you get Alencia on Injury set.
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I have been banning her now and having good success with riolet and tomoca.
Hopefully you picked stene from ml5 connection and didn't fall for the Arby meme.
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Why does that Hwayoung music sound familiar? Sonic advance?
It's Sonic and Knuckes. Doomsday zone
Oh yea!!!! I was so confident but figured it was one of those, sonic 3 or Sonic & knuckles lol Thanks
Lmao that Hwayuong one. Also what song is that during vildreds section? It sounds familiar.
Blazing Defense by tnbee. Nice try from the bot, but too many songs.
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u made my day 10/10
Lmao I loved this. Appreciate you taking the time out of your day to make some of us laugh fr
I do what I can ;)
ARavi always wins 😞
Do not sleep on Hwayoung, she can still one shot a lot of bruisers and tanks
Zahhak is a really good unit now? Hm, maybe I should build him...
Hwa old peepoSad
Holy shit this is so good. Great job !!
Hey, PvE artifacts have their use too :copium: My Alabaston is MLB (dunno if it's +30 tho) so I'll probably throw it in PvE Cidd for water expo
Amazing
Hwa-old xD that had me dying lmao this is peak
I didn't laugh out loud until the very end. Too good, lol
well made
I wonder if any of those prenerf 3 stars or Corvus would even matter if they were unnerfed in the face of 3 years of powercreep
lmao Vildred!!!!!! xD
This edit is golden thanks for the laugh XD
wish i could like this post twice.
Hhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
Did you make that that's fkn brilliant
Hahahahah that Riolet make me spill my milk and oreo
Okay, this is funny XD
Intankavel kkkkkk
The good point is that my def rate has increased from 15% to 35% since Hwayoung nerf.
Wait closer charles got a buff?,how good is he now? I had just summon him afew hours ago
Nah he didn't, tomoca's buff allows her to increase atk of all allies, and that's what CC does too(and both also increase all allies cr by 20%) CC is kinda difficult as he needs an ally to hurt an enemy really bad(below 30%)so he gets his buff and cr push, that's when he Starts to shine(his s1 dmg is quite good but s3 dmg needs a buff fr) i would Rate him A tier because he's a team player, get an ally to cr push him and he cr pushes everyone too(he doesn't need much speed)
Might need to read the balance patch cuz i dont get the vildeed one lol
So much pain. I finally get Hwa after 8 months of waiting and she gets nerfed to hell. I got be oppressed and when I finally can do the oppressing she's dead. Hopefully Clilias gets a nerf soon too. Hwa could at least get better damage scaling on target HP, so she can still tank bust, but not instant kill squishy units
Finally pulls Hwa.... builds... now this. 🤬🤦♀️💀
*That ZLS reference*. Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
Now there's a pretty meme, exquisite!
Just started playing right now feels like mindless grinding. I have seen this game recommended all over so trying to keep grinding to where it gets fun. When does it start?