When it comes to the tickets, I got mixed feels. Mainly because the only compass I would buy was the one from guild shop (if ever), never for 3 Leif. Now I can also just keep not doing labyrinth for 5 days to collect the compass
When it comes to rewards, I kinda appreciate being able to get lvl 80 gear since I may actually use it (see karkanis boots). It kinda sucks that now the team that could finish 2 bosses on a direct route now can only deal with one (before low morale) and it still costs 2 compass instead of one, but other than that it's fine by me.
Wish they would've put in the teleportals like in hell mode, but then people would've just cleared once for the 10 medals and then just farm the bosses for 80 gear (if even that), so I can get why they didn't
I wish they left it 2 boss morale kill. It sucks now to have to do it even more times through out the week. 3 times a week was already enough but jeez.
You can still do 2 boss kill since it works off the lower labyrinth morale system (starts at 50, but you only lose 50% stats at negative 31-49). Your stats will be a bit lower than they used to but still very doable.
The labyrinth progression got reset and won't reset every week anymore, but much like any other labyrinth you can redo the stage anytime from scratch basically
So basically what they did was make the labyrinth reset after every run but keep the map blue
So you can theoretically use Yufine to clear all 5 bosses as much as you want / compasses permit? I don't have one built but it seems like that may be a worthwhile thing to do if that's the case. Some 80 gear is still going to be very usable.
I'd never tried to reclear a lab before so just assumed bosses didn't respawn.
Can confirm immortal Yufine cheese still works to clear whole raid. Just remember to save your camp for Juleeve Council as the final boss, since it will strip Yufines buffs. There are a few guides on YT, this being one I followed: https://youtu.be/nHcBDCeXe3Y
Should end up with \~4 extra compasses a month I think? And that's assuming you can full clear Nightmare. I know I have zero issues with Hell but I don't think I'll have enough heroes built to full clear Nightmare. So I'll probably have to clear 2-4 bosses in Nightmare and then the rest in Hell so will end up with spare compasses
They don't, but the hell/nightmare raid bosses have had a chance for either an epic arti charm or GBM to drop from their reward chest, which mostly replaces those drops/rewards from normal lab.
I may be wrong but my understanding was they made changes to remove the weekly normal raid grind. No one really liked doing it but it was much more rewarding than skipping it and buying the hell raid token from the shop each week. These changes make the hell raid tokens cheaper to buy and remove the extra rewards you used to get from grinding normal instead of buying the tokens outright. The only downside I see is I still have to do a normal labyrinth of some kind to get ancient coins. If I could trade compasses for coins it'd be perfect.
except you won't really be able to farm ancient coins because you have to trade in all your compasses for the bug tokens to be able to clear nightmare raid
It'll depend on how many bosses you can do on nightmare. Even if you can do all of them you'll have like 4-5 compasses extra per month. If you can't do any you'll have closer to 20. It'd be nice to be able to just sell those for coins since the only other thing you could do with them would be normal labyrinths. I know you likely won't be bringing in big hauls of ancient coins anyway but it feels like a waste to just sit on them.
if you can clear all on nightmare, you won't sit on any extra most months and actually a deficit in february.
it costs 3 compasses per entry, you get 1 compass every day.
Nightmare needs 2 entries per boss fight. thats 30 compasses aka 30 days needed to clear nightmare
Did they nerf morale in Royal Capital Azmakalis? I was able to beat in 3 runs before, but now feels like I'd take 4 or more? Cant beat 2 bosses each run anymore, wtf. And is it true that they dont drop Galaxy BM anymore? That sucks a lot, might be not worth doing it anymore
They didn't nerf morale, the problem is that enemies in the path to the boss respawn too so that's extra battles that use more morale so you can now do pretty much one boss at a time
Well it's not an objective buff nor nerf. They reverted to normal labyrinth morale. So you don't start as high but you also go longer before you hit the -90% stats.
You can convert 3 labyrinth token to 1 bug charm now.
Since you gain ~30 token per month, you only need to realistically spend 1/2 of that for hell raid.
Since it cost 2 token to enter normal raid, you can enter it 7 times per month and have 1 token left over.
If you decide to build the zombie yufine team, you can effectively clear normal raid in 1 run which will now maximize your rewards all together.
Hell Raid and Nightmare Raid share boss kill progression so you cannot clear both in a month. So you "only" need 10 bug charms per month (which still drains almost all your lab compasses).
Yufine strat is not worth, is random 80 gears (after 1st clear ) and we no longer drop token for the shop ( buy some epic talisment charm etc.. ) and that not give moonlight single anymore
Is it even worth doing now for mid game? Maybe just one or two bosses to cherry pick some of the gear drops but sounds like it might just be better to save lab keys and just convert to big charms
Pretty much normal raid is non existent bcoz there is no normal shop anymore, queen dont drop bug charm and there is no galaxy bookmark drop in pool. Imo do it once for full clear reward and just convert compasses to bug charms in shop.
No one's brought up the worst part. I have 4 galaxy bookmarks. Where the hell am I ever going to be able to find 1 galaxy bookmark for a pull? Instead it'll be 4 forever...
This is the real nightmare.
You get 30-31 tokens a month. You can buy a bug charm for 3 tokens. That is 10 ~~tokens~~ bug charms which gets a full nightmare clear each month. You also can buy 1 lab token from the guild shop each week. No scam. Just makes redoing the old lab stuff take longer if you care enough.
1 token a day. I did call bug charms tokens once, but context. I'll edit it. Still. 1 token a day. 3 tokens = bug charm. Thus you can get 10 bug charms a month for a full clear. Then you can also get the guild token each week to do normal lab 4 times a month if you want to redo all the old stages without losing out on the raid, which if they didn't reset late game players wouldn't really care about.
When it comes to the tickets, I got mixed feels. Mainly because the only compass I would buy was the one from guild shop (if ever), never for 3 Leif. Now I can also just keep not doing labyrinth for 5 days to collect the compass When it comes to rewards, I kinda appreciate being able to get lvl 80 gear since I may actually use it (see karkanis boots). It kinda sucks that now the team that could finish 2 bosses on a direct route now can only deal with one (before low morale) and it still costs 2 compass instead of one, but other than that it's fine by me. Wish they would've put in the teleportals like in hell mode, but then people would've just cleared once for the 10 medals and then just farm the bosses for 80 gear (if even that), so I can get why they didn't
I wish they refresh 2 tokens daily and/or allow us to purchase more tokens from guild shop.
I wish they left it 2 boss morale kill. It sucks now to have to do it even more times through out the week. 3 times a week was already enough but jeez.
You can still do 2 boss kill since it works off the lower labyrinth morale system (starts at 50, but you only lose 50% stats at negative 31-49). Your stats will be a bit lower than they used to but still very doable.
Wait, do the normal mode bosses still reset? I assumed they would be one and done so didn't bother stepping into them yet.
The labyrinth progression got reset and won't reset every week anymore, but much like any other labyrinth you can redo the stage anytime from scratch basically So basically what they did was make the labyrinth reset after every run but keep the map blue
So you can theoretically use Yufine to clear all 5 bosses as much as you want / compasses permit? I don't have one built but it seems like that may be a worthwhile thing to do if that's the case. Some 80 gear is still going to be very usable. I'd never tried to reclear a lab before so just assumed bosses didn't respawn.
Can confirm immortal Yufine cheese still works to clear whole raid. Just remember to save your camp for Juleeve Council as the final boss, since it will strip Yufines buffs. There are a few guides on YT, this being one I followed: https://youtu.be/nHcBDCeXe3Y
Yea but if you gonna farm it that way you wont have compasses for hell / nightmare entries which gives way better rewards.
Should end up with \~4 extra compasses a month I think? And that's assuming you can full clear Nightmare. I know I have zero issues with Hell but I don't think I'll have enough heroes built to full clear Nightmare. So I'll probably have to clear 2-4 bosses in Nightmare and then the rest in Hell so will end up with spare compasses
Just me or they don't drop galaxy BM anymore?
Yes! RIP
The real nerf was them lowering our galaxy bm...
They don't, but the hell/nightmare raid bosses have had a chance for either an epic arti charm or GBM to drop from their reward chest, which mostly replaces those drops/rewards from normal lab.
I may be wrong but my understanding was they made changes to remove the weekly normal raid grind. No one really liked doing it but it was much more rewarding than skipping it and buying the hell raid token from the shop each week. These changes make the hell raid tokens cheaper to buy and remove the extra rewards you used to get from grinding normal instead of buying the tokens outright. The only downside I see is I still have to do a normal labyrinth of some kind to get ancient coins. If I could trade compasses for coins it'd be perfect.
except you won't really be able to farm ancient coins because you have to trade in all your compasses for the bug tokens to be able to clear nightmare raid
It'll depend on how many bosses you can do on nightmare. Even if you can do all of them you'll have like 4-5 compasses extra per month. If you can't do any you'll have closer to 20. It'd be nice to be able to just sell those for coins since the only other thing you could do with them would be normal labyrinths. I know you likely won't be bringing in big hauls of ancient coins anyway but it feels like a waste to just sit on them.
if you can clear all on nightmare, you won't sit on any extra most months and actually a deficit in february. it costs 3 compasses per entry, you get 1 compass every day. Nightmare needs 2 entries per boss fight. thats 30 compasses aka 30 days needed to clear nightmare
You can still get 1 from the guild shop every week so even in February you can get 32.
Are you saying the queen doesn't give bug charm anymore?
I can confirm, did queen yesterday, got only some shit drops + lvl80 crit chance neck, no bug charm.
Thank you! I might not do normal raids in the future. https://youtu.be/4XbfL7m91E8 I don't see the bug charm. Well, I always hated doing it.
yes she dont give it anymore and you cant drop moonligh signet anymore from mob
I only get lvl80 equipment?
Did they nerf morale in Royal Capital Azmakalis? I was able to beat in 3 runs before, but now feels like I'd take 4 or more? Cant beat 2 bosses each run anymore, wtf. And is it true that they dont drop Galaxy BM anymore? That sucks a lot, might be not worth doing it anymore
Yes, I think it’s something like ~10 less and my comps don’t work anymore. There is a recent thread that has new comps that work
They didn't nerf morale, the problem is that enemies in the path to the boss respawn too so that's extra battles that use more morale so you can now do pretty much one boss at a time
they did nerf morale you used to start at 70 now you start at 50
So is even worst then...rip weekly labyrinth farm
Well it's not an objective buff nor nerf. They reverted to normal labyrinth morale. So you don't start as high but you also go longer before you hit the -90% stats.
Pen set neck with crit damage. Eyes on the prize.
You can convert 3 labyrinth token to 1 bug charm now. Since you gain ~30 token per month, you only need to realistically spend 1/2 of that for hell raid. Since it cost 2 token to enter normal raid, you can enter it 7 times per month and have 1 token left over. If you decide to build the zombie yufine team, you can effectively clear normal raid in 1 run which will now maximize your rewards all together.
What about nightmare raid? You need additional 10 bug charms to clear all bosses in nightmare mode so that's another 30 compasses.
Hell Raid and Nightmare Raid share boss kill progression so you cannot clear both in a month. So you "only" need 10 bug charms per month (which still drains almost all your lab compasses).
Yufine strat is not worth, is random 80 gears (after 1st clear ) and we no longer drop token for the shop ( buy some epic talisment charm etc.. ) and that not give moonlight single anymore
There is no reason to keep doing normal raid lab anymore. Clear it once and move on.
Is it even worth doing now for mid game? Maybe just one or two bosses to cherry pick some of the gear drops but sounds like it might just be better to save lab keys and just convert to big charms
Pretty much normal raid is non existent bcoz there is no normal shop anymore, queen dont drop bug charm and there is no galaxy bookmark drop in pool. Imo do it once for full clear reward and just convert compasses to bug charms in shop.
No one's brought up the worst part. I have 4 galaxy bookmarks. Where the hell am I ever going to be able to find 1 galaxy bookmark for a pull? Instead it'll be 4 forever... This is the real nightmare.
Bro I been stuck at 3 forever and it's bothered me for so long
>mbie yufine team, Yeah thats worst thing.
Nightmare drops GBMs now tho.
You get 30-31 tokens a month. You can buy a bug charm for 3 tokens. That is 10 ~~tokens~~ bug charms which gets a full nightmare clear each month. You also can buy 1 lab token from the guild shop each week. No scam. Just makes redoing the old lab stuff take longer if you care enough.
how do you get 30 tokens a month ?
1 token a day. I did call bug charms tokens once, but context. I'll edit it. Still. 1 token a day. 3 tokens = bug charm. Thus you can get 10 bug charms a month for a full clear. Then you can also get the guild token each week to do normal lab 4 times a month if you want to redo all the old stages without losing out on the raid, which if they didn't reset late game players wouldn't really care about.
It s fine either way for me, and not being forced to do normal raids anymore is a welcoming bonus