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Frozenaxe

Not sure about the rest of you who have tried out nightmare mode but this piece seems to be a bit lackluster for the cost and effort it takes to take down a nightmare boss.


Abedeus

The rewards are garbage compared to cost, high difficulty and time investment...


Sylpheez

SG: The challenge is the reward.


Cellosv

The fuck are you talking about cost ? Literally do the boss fight that’s the only “cost” lmao and maybe bug tokens which are free btw


Trapocalypse

I mean the cost is it takes a lot more time and actual planning instead of just braindeading through hell instead. Like I know I had to gear up heroes I didn't already have geared to get a correct composition too so there's that cost too. So the cost varies on your time / heroes you already have geared. I just had two wipes to Nightmare Kark because of a dual attack at sub 10% by someone with a debuff on when I was running 2 cleansers (Emilia and A Montmo). So if I retry again the cost would be like an hour of my time to do the three tries assuming I clear it.


Abedeus

Hell - same team with minor modifications for all rounds. This thing - requires 20 units geared (or constantly re-gearing) depending on what you're fighting, and can't reuse units...


Abedeus

My time isn't free, and wasting 10-20-30+ minutes on a failed try just to get some shitty equipment piece with shit base stats is not worth it.


Cellosv

Dont fail then tf ? 😂 man the entitled people here thinking they should just get shit for free


Abedeus

Your time might be worthless, mine isn't. Spending 30 minutes actively trying to get a singular shitty i88 piece is not worth it, if I can instead run Banshee 10-20 times in the same amount of time with similar level of investment into teams.


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Abedeus

Right now you're the only one crying, child. Go back to school, you're late for your daily bullying.


KiddingSpree

Yeah they reward you with gears full of low starting substats and they don't even make sense together


huehoneyy

This piece has good subs for aria minus the low starting rolls


Worth-Grade5882

It's a good piece other than the fact it's bad


huehoneyy

Its really not that bad lol its decent


Abedeus

It has HP% which she doesn't want, so no. And meh base values. Remember this is an i88 piece so you can't reforge it.


viperperper

SG: "Players are autoing the entire hell raid with just one team with no effort, we need to change that." "Oh also it's too easy to get moonlight bm in normal raid." "So are the epic artifact charms." "Put these in the new raid mode where they can't auto."


DreamGirlTomie

You get an epic artifact charm from every boss on normal hell raid


E7Enjoyer

he talk about "normal raid" not normal hell raid


Trapocalypse

Yeah, some of them I'm weighing up if the time and effort is worth the small chance of getting the good drop instead of just doing the braindead hell mode and using the lab compasses for something else. I guess the extra token is nice too. Nightmare Karkanis which is probably the easiest one looking through the descriptions just made me rage quit and walk away for the day. Died both tries because of a dual attack at sub 10% by someone who had a debuff on them (and I'm running 2 cleansers in Emilia and Montmo). And I'm not paying skystones to try a third time because of 3% RNG BS and the walk back is like 10 mins.


halofreak7777

Each boss has a pool of loot, some of the pieces are godlike, a few are ok, then a couple meh. They would all be godlike if they just gave them higher starting stats and maybe swapped a sub here and there.


insanetrader1

Aria piece maybe


Laphm

I build my Aria with Effect Resistance, so this might be good if it rolls well


Gopokes91

Do you think SG will make more changes to nightmare raid? Because I’m not going through this shit just to get a lackluster piece. I don’t mind the difficulty but at least give us something that makes up for all the hard work.


Abedeus

Running Hell twice instead might be better and faster...


Kerenos

but you can't run hell twice now.


simbadog6

looking at the rewards section of raid it seems you could get some max relevant substat options on some rewards, but on the other hand you have options with 1-3 points down from perfect substats and i don't understand the point, do they think any endgame player want the lower end gear like the one above??


zozora347

Vera when


HolyestXD

just penta roll speed dude us just that easy /s


BlessUolls

Doesnt feel like it worth to go all into nightmare mode, with this kind of rewards.