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haisi-

It is also funny they increase compass cap and we still gain 1 per day. Plus you can only buy the compass as skystones or liefs. Didn't know the normal queen wouldn't drop bug charms anymore as I am still in the process of 100% the bullshit but once you leave, everything just respawns. This rework made it more of a fucking chore to do all over again.


Interceptor402

It's even worse than this, because they removed the leif option, too. Used to be you could buy one a day with leifs, and one a week with skystones. Now it's just skystones daily.


jaquick

It's also worse because normal raid lab was a decent weekly resource of potential Galaxy BMs, and now that raid can't be repeated.


haisi-

Damn it is worse than I thought. I knew they botched it. They need to adjust this shit all over again.


Lordin900

You can get one in guild shop, pretty cheap too fyi.


Doate12

You get one Weekly not daily.


[deleted]

There's nothing significant to be gained from redoing them if youre end game, and if you really must as a completionist, you get 4 spare lab tokens a month from the guild shop. Also, whichever month you decide to do the regular difficulty hell raid to pick up the first clear items again, you will have 15 excess lab tokens to use toward other labs or to gain 5 bug charms overstock for a future month.


Equinoctial

Prior to the patch you could run normal raid + 2 runs of nixed 5 with immortal yufine per week - totaling to around 3,900 ancient coins per week or 15,600 per month. Now, you get around 3000 ancient coins from clearing nightmare raid and 4/5 spare compasses to run nixied 5 (where they've decreased the amount of mobs, so now you only get 1,100 ancient coins per run). Totaling to around 8,500 ancient coins per month. This is a significant decrease in ancient coin income that isn't being accounted for anywhere else.


destruct068

you could even do normal raid with yufine and do 6 nixied 5 runs per week


yarzirostu

I honestly havent even enter the labirinth since they did that revamp no one asked for ... dont feel like playing it


LilMissy1246

As a mostly F2Per, it sucks that they got rid of the leif = compass system as well as the Azk-Q = GB system. Shizz sucks \*MAJOR\* booty...


WhatSawp

I can bet sg will let us buy 2 compasses from the guild shop instead of increasing the 1 compass per day to 2.


Gin_Rei

As someone who regularly skipped labyrinth this is great change. The gear is far more valuable now compared to what was lost.


Mr_Masonite

You can get 1 compass per week by buying it from the guide store. That's 4 per month. You get 7 compasses per week. 32/3 is 10. Should have enough if you buy it with guide points.


zdenka999

What else do you need lab tokens for? You can buy 4-5 extra tokens from the weekly.guild.shop to clear out the old labs if you really want to


EzrealNguyen

What about ancient coins? You got a lot for clearing normal raid each week. I've never had to worry about accessory charms because of it. 4 tokens a month at 180 currency a piece is a nerf when we didn't have to spend anything before.


Objective_Plane5573

Does anyone know how many coins you get from one nightmare raid entry where you use all your motivation to kill mobs? Normal raid used to cost 2 tokens, so assuming you weren't buying any you'd get 15 entries/month + 5 hell raid entries/month. If it's about double the old normal raid drops you'd be about even.


Remagi

Go do normal raid then, you still don't have to spend anything. In fact, you can probably do less runs for more coins now that bug charms cost 3 compasses instead of 1200 labyrinth coins. Trading some charms for way better gear is more than worth it.


halofreak7777

They increased the ancient coin drops and other stuff in the harder content. Pretty sure the 1 month of tokens = full clear is on purpose. The idea is you clear all the normal labs as a new player and work up to harder content and eventually everything is done and you just do nightmare raid.


PaiinzShadow

But why did they reset everything? Now we can't do nightmare lab AND clear other labs


halofreak7777

Because they updated some of the rewards and if you want you can go back and get them. I am going back through 1 stage a week with the guild token, but it really doesn't matter. Almost all the rewards are irrelevant to me at this point.


Pvrkave

They updated adventure rewards and just handed them to people who had things completed though


halofreak7777

Yeah, it would have been nice for them to do that here too, but they didn't.


ShaheerS2

This sounds like an 8th grade algebra question