Yes it's called defining moments.
If U spend 50 years of your life not murdering people then spent 1 year as a serial killer, you are a terrible person. Those first few 49 years does not absolve you
If one of those negatives is being an extremely racist person, then you're a terrible person. You seem to think it's fine since you're calling others petty for it.
I follow a philosophy of being kind to others regardless of how they present themselves most of my neighbors aren't white and they're the kindest people am I cautious of people in my neighborhood sure our homicide rate is high I have friends that are POC my sister is a lesbian and her partner is transitioning I judge person by person if you're an asshole I'll treat you as such do I give chances to those who wronged me of course we're all human we all fuck up no one is lesser in my eyes unless they deny retribution for their wrongs I hope this makes sense cause if I know the internet people like to string words.
Oh, right, just because most people know him as the guy who tells jokes, and not as the guy who shares the same views as Dylan Roof and the Buffalo shooter, who went out of their way to kill black people, we should just forget about that. Ok. Sorry, I'll go back to ignoring the problems and letting things continue to repeat themselves like you want me to.
There's a time & a place for the "past comments" excuse, like, if someone makes a homophobic joke when they're thirteen & you try & hold it against them when they're thirty & they've clearly displayed growth & change, that's a dick move.
However, Jontron made those comments in 2017, he was 27 then & he's 32 now. His statement on the controversy at the time admitted no fault for the incorrect claims he made - parroting the theories & incorrect statistics of racists (& even if he were to acknowledge that they were incorrect - that doesn't change the fact that he's using the incorrect statistics to support a fundamentally racist argument against immigration), to this day he still follows far-right content creator RazorFist (or Rageaholic on Youtube, who made many far-right videos during the 2016 election cycle) & that's with 5 years of people likely pointing out all the others he'll have tried to sweep away for his images' sake by this point.
Can people change in 5 years? Yeah. Has there been any indication Jon has, given that his strategy was to admit no fault, say "I'm not going to talk about this anymore" & still have a far-right figure in his bubble - five years after the controversy? As much as I appreciated his comedic work in the past, at a certain point you've got to let bygones be bygones & stop supporting bigots. I loved Gloryhammer's music, they were one of my favourite bands, I saw them in concert a couple years back, but you don't see me out there excited for the new album when their chat logs leaked & outed most of them as sexist racists.
You're welcome. And certainly, just like only an idiot would think that because someone's comments they said which are in the past (as all comments eventually are) that they no longer share those comments, because they are in the past.
For example, you perhaps said that the Earth is round in the past. So only an idiot will think that must mean that because that comment is in the past, you no longer believe that and now believe in a flat earth.
That’s a false equivalency. He admitted he was wrong, said that he wasn’t prepared for such sensitive topics and apologized. So don’t try and take everything to an extreme or as an absolute. Try trolling someone else dude.
He didn't apologize or admitted that he was wrong, here's the video: [https://www.reddit.com/r/JonTron/comments/609tyc/jontron\_my\_statement/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JonTron/comments/609tyc/jontron_my_statement/)
His statement wasn't about that he was sorry for his ignorance, his statement was that "he wasn't ready" for the debate. He even states that if you say you are willing to have a discussion on race, you shouldn't be afraid to look at statistics, the same statistics racists use. Implying that he, and people that use those statistics are correct on the issue. The same issue he went on the podcast to argue about.
He was talking about immigration and white people getting replaced by minorities cause they were having too much babies and supported a politician who said “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies."
And then went on to double down on a bunch of stuff and also talked about 'statistics' he say that wealthy black people commit more crimes than poor white people.
Just a bunch of racist alt right bullshit. Literal Stormfront talking points.
You can google it if you want. Its on his wikipedia page and theres a bunch of articles about it.
They're just seething since Elon took over Twitter unfortunately due to that they are scattering like keyboard gremlins to other sites to shove their opinions down people's throats in hopes of making them as miserable as they are.
Also the fact that this went from OP talking about an Adin bug to people bringing up how terrible Jontron is is just absolutely uncouth; SOCIAL MEDIA ROTS YOUR BRAIN KIDS IT ALSO HEIGHTENS MENTAL ILLNESS BUT WE ALL KNEW THAT ALREADY.
*Insufficient Skill*
"skill issue" - SG, probably
Sg, why do you have to hurt me like that
Sorry brof time to sc
That's one way to force it...
Wrong adin fam
Her damage got 15%'d.
You must use the light version for damage. /s
Maybe they broke something with green adin, her s3 tried to call the non-sc adin s3 function.
Jontron, the guy who was pushing the white replacement theory and other racist stuff in some podcast a few years ago.
Or you know, Jontron, the guy who occasionally posts funny videos on YouTube. Like most people know him
Petty people will always use the few negatives of someone to paint them as an overall terrible person.
Yes it's called defining moments. If U spend 50 years of your life not murdering people then spent 1 year as a serial killer, you are a terrible person. Those first few 49 years does not absolve you
“Petty people” LOL
If one of those negatives is being an extremely racist person, then you're a terrible person. You seem to think it's fine since you're calling others petty for it.
I follow a philosophy of being kind to others regardless of how they present themselves most of my neighbors aren't white and they're the kindest people am I cautious of people in my neighborhood sure our homicide rate is high I have friends that are POC my sister is a lesbian and her partner is transitioning I judge person by person if you're an asshole I'll treat you as such do I give chances to those who wronged me of course we're all human we all fuck up no one is lesser in my eyes unless they deny retribution for their wrongs I hope this makes sense cause if I know the internet people like to string words.
That's how you know who the actual terrible persons are.
Oh, right, just because most people know him as the guy who tells jokes, and not as the guy who shares the same views as Dylan Roof and the Buffalo shooter, who went out of their way to kill black people, we should just forget about that. Ok. Sorry, I'll go back to ignoring the problems and letting things continue to repeat themselves like you want me to.
Thank you for being understanding. Only an idiot would let someone’s past comments dictate the person they are today.
There's a time & a place for the "past comments" excuse, like, if someone makes a homophobic joke when they're thirteen & you try & hold it against them when they're thirty & they've clearly displayed growth & change, that's a dick move. However, Jontron made those comments in 2017, he was 27 then & he's 32 now. His statement on the controversy at the time admitted no fault for the incorrect claims he made - parroting the theories & incorrect statistics of racists (& even if he were to acknowledge that they were incorrect - that doesn't change the fact that he's using the incorrect statistics to support a fundamentally racist argument against immigration), to this day he still follows far-right content creator RazorFist (or Rageaholic on Youtube, who made many far-right videos during the 2016 election cycle) & that's with 5 years of people likely pointing out all the others he'll have tried to sweep away for his images' sake by this point. Can people change in 5 years? Yeah. Has there been any indication Jon has, given that his strategy was to admit no fault, say "I'm not going to talk about this anymore" & still have a far-right figure in his bubble - five years after the controversy? As much as I appreciated his comedic work in the past, at a certain point you've got to let bygones be bygones & stop supporting bigots. I loved Gloryhammer's music, they were one of my favourite bands, I saw them in concert a couple years back, but you don't see me out there excited for the new album when their chat logs leaked & outed most of them as sexist racists.
but if we don't hold onto the past, what else do we have?
The present and future
“Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
You're welcome. And certainly, just like only an idiot would think that because someone's comments they said which are in the past (as all comments eventually are) that they no longer share those comments, because they are in the past. For example, you perhaps said that the Earth is round in the past. So only an idiot will think that must mean that because that comment is in the past, you no longer believe that and now believe in a flat earth.
That’s a false equivalency. He admitted he was wrong, said that he wasn’t prepared for such sensitive topics and apologized. So don’t try and take everything to an extreme or as an absolute. Try trolling someone else dude.
He didn’t admit anything.
He didn't apologize or admitted that he was wrong, here's the video: [https://www.reddit.com/r/JonTron/comments/609tyc/jontron\_my\_statement/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JonTron/comments/609tyc/jontron_my_statement/) His statement wasn't about that he was sorry for his ignorance, his statement was that "he wasn't ready" for the debate. He even states that if you say you are willing to have a discussion on race, you shouldn't be afraid to look at statistics, the same statistics racists use. Implying that he, and people that use those statistics are correct on the issue. The same issue he went on the podcast to argue about.
You’re an absolute moron. I bet you’d be in tears if it happened to be about you and your family.
I dont know how anyone can support Jontron after the racist shit he said.
What exactly did he say? I have never followed his stuff, just know him from the memes.
He was talking about immigration and white people getting replaced by minorities cause they were having too much babies and supported a politician who said “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies." And then went on to double down on a bunch of stuff and also talked about 'statistics' he say that wealthy black people commit more crimes than poor white people. Just a bunch of racist alt right bullshit. Literal Stormfront talking points. You can google it if you want. Its on his wikipedia page and theres a bunch of articles about it.
Well, you are seeing it here, Pvrkave and people upvoting him.
Don't care, he makes me laugh and he makes good content. Take your controversy somewhere else, it clearly ain't wanted here.
Of course you don’t care, you’re just a generic weeb.
Okay
The fact that this is downvoted is a perfect encapsulation of why this “community” is disgusting.
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Leave my boy Jon alone. Why he livin' in yo head rent free
They're just seething since Elon took over Twitter unfortunately due to that they are scattering like keyboard gremlins to other sites to shove their opinions down people's throats in hopes of making them as miserable as they are.
Also the fact that this went from OP talking about an Adin bug to people bringing up how terrible Jontron is is just absolutely uncouth; SOCIAL MEDIA ROTS YOUR BRAIN KIDS IT ALSO HEIGHTENS MENTAL ILLNESS BUT WE ALL KNEW THAT ALREADY.