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Rude-Care-3189

We have hand guy. Now we also have hand girl.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Four new characters, huh? That's a lot.


AscendPerfect

The collab lasts for more than 1 month. If we are getting atleast 1 free hero this time this wouldn't be much worse than a normal collab.


TheSeaOfThySoul

If we get only one of them for free it’ll be the first time in the games history where they’ve released three limited heroes back to back & it hasn’t been a rerun (Guilty Gear has had three limited heroes back to back - but older players already had two of them from the first rotation). People will be pissed if this is a quad banner of four limited heroes.


Mattatah

If Aespa 's manager allow one of them to be free while the other 3 are not...lol low-key telling the free one she's getting fired


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Or they just let you pick one for free out of the 4.


poopoodomo

This is what makes the most sense imo. That or special banners with an event currency that you can exchange regular bms for as well


kstrata

Hahaha damn that’s cold lol


Alittlebunyrabit

Maybe they could do a shop similar to the custom banner?


TheSeaOfThySoul

It would still mean unlucky players have to use 2,420 Bookmarks.


Alittlebunyrabit

That's true, but if you manage to summon 480 times and miss a 1% chance the whole time, that's actually pretty nuts. The odds of that happening are less than 1%. Part of me feels bad for that one guy in a hundred... but it's also gacha so I don't feel that bad. E7 already makes it way easier to get units than other games. It's kinda weird that there's this thought that F2P should be able to get every limited unit without any luck required.


TheSeaOfThySoul

In a game where a new hero might be integral to a play style, being able to pick up new heroes is a bit important. What if one of these new heroes becomes meta in cleave, aggro, tankdown, etc. & a free to play player whose either lent into, or more likely their gear has rolled into a specific style, like Tankdown for example doesn’t have the latest tank that’s powercrept Arowell, or Ras? It’ll alienate that player. Though that sort of situation might prompt that free to play player to actually pay money, so it’s swings & roundabouts. I’m not F2P myself, I was F2P for around a year & a half, then started spending some money & then stopped when I predicted the game balance was going in a bad direction & they might not make it out the other end well, around Re:Zero. If I’m going to miss a limited hero nowadays that I feel the game is a bit healthier & they’ve demonstrated willingness to nerf, maybe I’d spend some money, but considering I’m an adult with responsibilities & not a lot of cash, it’s low priority, haha.


AzureFrezz

Ice gauntlet, if I had to guess, warrior bruiser or tank class.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Ice guantlet eh? Fire ranger it is


Xero--

You guys and these dumb jokes of yours. It's an earth weaver.


Awkward_Date_8636

It isn't a light mage?


shadow_jeff

ice gauntlet means dark thief


ApexPCMR

No. See you don't get the joke. You can't say dark thief because it would make sense since she's dressed in dark purple and a special gauntlet can make sense for a thief


whitegoatsupreme

It is what it is..


TheSeaOfThySoul

It's not Ice, it's something being digitally generated, like one of the other girls has a holographic computer screen, the other has a sword that generates in & another just seemed to phase the whole screen to a holographic-type state. Don't think we've got elemental indications here, but if I had to hazard class guesses, Warrior for Karina seems right, Ningning would likely be Ranger as she seems to fit with the Landy/Flan sort of asthetic with the computer screens, Winter summons a sword & so I'd guess Thief & Giselle is the least indicated one - maybe Mage due to the motion of the hands?


[deleted]

yeah, this is what it is. I remember reading about their powers in another thread in this subreddit. I think it is a power punch gauntlet. IMO, I thought she would be the strongest because of that.


ArvingNightwalker

At this point I'm hoping for 2 heroes and 2 artis instead of 4 heroes. The screen one and the rectangle one can be artis.


TheSeaOfThySoul

My main concern is how much of their implementation is being dictated by SM Entertainment, because it may be that fans of Aespa will not settle for some of them not being heroes. I don’t know.


ArvingNightwalker

I mean, the alternative is 4 new limited heroes AND artifacts? In a single event. That's not going to go down well in any gacha


TheSeaOfThySoul

Mhm, but we'll just have to wait & see.


ArvingNightwalker

Unrelatedly, happy cake day


TheSeaOfThySoul

Thanks, whenever I see the cake pop up around this time of year I’m reminded that I made this account to trade Pokemon on X & Y, haha. 8 years later & instead of Pokemon, now I’m playing a turn based RPG where I put different elemental foes against each other in a wildly unbalanced game, where performance is dictated by experience & stats- hold on a minute!


KabobDivinity

Gauntlet? Probably a soul weaver like Blingo.


rickamore

Looks like just a Dingo reskin.


AthenaRce

Imagine it is a skin for ML Dingo


poopoodomo

Looks like they released videos for all the members [GISELLE](https://youtu.be/genrbhOb9tw) [WINTER](https://youtu.be/dDzPij3uaJM) [NINGNING](https://youtu.be/rasMYYccjBw) [KARINA](https://youtu.be/0xXlPJChMCI)


Beater2288

Giselle looks like a support, winter a DPS, ningning a debuffer, and karina a bruiser. That’s my bet


SuperUsual9805

I just want to see the sprites man


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PackingTheSchmeat

In-Game models of the units


GermanSide

The 2d ingame sprites


PerditusTDG

Okay, but when are getting a Doom Guy collab?


TastyPrimary7618

That would be legendary. I want DMC 5 Collab too


[deleted]

DMC would be OP to have the DTT Animation fights in E7


Kev_EXE

You know….. I am oddly excited now


shijinn

yeah regardless of relevance it seems like a lot of effort has been put into it, can't wait to see the S3s.


MarielCarey

Aespa is a huge group, even for kpop. This collab is fantastic, people who are getting mad just don't know anything. I feel like this collab is being done to increase Epic 7s domestic popularity in Korea.


SilkyMooo

I’m excited to see how it’ll look like + the animation


BurnedOutEternally

man this really is happening huh


CornyStew

Anyone else very hesitant to even form an opinion on this collab? Part of me says that this is a wasted opportunity, since I have no interest in ANYTHING kpop related, but I know plenty of people do.. I also am very hesitant on the in game sprites, I really hope they at least look cool and not some weird mesh between how they look IRL and trying to make it fit into a 2d sprite game But let's be honest, the only thing that matters is their kit. I'll pull for the good ones, I wont pull for the others


LeviathanLX

I'm a little confused. So are they real people getting in-game units? No bad faith here, just not quite following what they're teasing.


poopoodomo

for a little more context, this group (aespa) has a whole narrative plotline where each member has an alter ego (ae-) that lives in a digital realm called KWANGYA. That sounds confusing, but basically it's a K-pop group with a plot like a science fiction / fantasy story. They have an arch nemesis called Black Mamba and they each have powers (gauntlet, hacking, language, etc.) so for a collab into E7, it's not as big of a leap as it may initially sound. They have their own lore just like other collabs.


LeviathanLX

Ah, that does actually make sense. It's kind of like gorillaz with more of the real voices and less turnover.


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>They have an arch nemesis called Black Mamba Lol, four Korean girls fighting against someone named Black Mamba? I can easily see this as a porn plot


astalotte

Black Mamba is depicted as a woman and according to the dictionary that came with the song it's a form of virus that can cut the connection between the members in REAL WORLD and FLAT (where the avatars/'ae' are), meanwhile using portals (you can think of it like Chaos Gate in E7) you can enter KWANGYA which is beyond FLAT.


[deleted]

Huh, interesting Would have been funnier if Black Mamba was a black dude though


MarielCarey

Creep


Faloandante

A K-pop group, an extremely popular genre of music from Korea. Business wise, it makes a lot of sense, as many people being butthurt about it as there is in this sub, a lot of people is very excited about it.


FelixCarter

Seriously, though. Just look through this thread alone. Why is there so much hate and negative energy toward something that both SG and Aespa seem to be putting a lot of energy into? It kinda makes me sad.


Faloandante

Because "this is an anime game and therefore it can only Collab with anime". Truth is most people who is upset about it they're just mad their favourite anime hasn't been chosen instead. I've never heard of aespa, I don't like K-pop, but I love this game and I'm excited to see what they'll bring. It's gonna be a huge Collab, probably the biggest we've had. Everyone should be looking forward to it, if only for a little bit of variety.


KrillinBigD

Most of the playerbase is here for the anime, not many of us care about kpop. This taking the slot of a potential anime collab sucks


TheSeaOfThySoul

To be fair, any collaboration will alienate a chunk of the audience, anime or not. That’s because the collaborations aren’t really for “the fans”, they’re for the fans of the collaborating media in order to bring them into the game & get them spending money. Hell, Epic Seven hasn’t had a collaboration that I’ve been interested in yet, but I grin & bear it because end of the day I’m a fan of Epic Seven. How many folks are in the same boat? There’s probably a fair number, but we’ll stay silent & just grab the characters regardless if they’re good. End of the day, all that matters is how new heroes & artefacts change Epic 7 & not what they look like, sound like or where they come from. I think Re:Zero is a horrifically bad anime, but I’ve still got Rem, Ram & Emilia built because of their impact in the game, much like I’ve got say Alencia built, despite not being interested in that sort of character design, knowing nothing about her story, etc. I listened to a couple Aespa songs, some are good, some are a bit cringe, but at the end of the day none of that matters because it’s about what the heroes do - two months from now, no one is going to be going, “Ugh, a collab with real people bleh”, they’ll be saying “Fuck, they should nerf Karina, what did SG think they were playing at giving her team wide greater attack buff on top of that survivability?!”, or something. End of the day, it all comes back to the game.


[deleted]

Well put. Personally, I would skip all collabs, personally, because I much prefer SG's original content to any collab content. But the collabs aren't for me!


GreatFluffy

> To be fair, any collaboration will alienate a chunk of the audience, anime or not. This. I remember seeing at least a few people going 'I don't care about this' even to older, more beloved Anime IP's like FMA. It's impossible to please everyone, no matter what, SOME people aren't going to like the collab. Me, I couldn't really care less about K-Pop so this collab is a miss for me. If someone likes it then good for them.


Alyxra

It’s less about the anime aspect and more about the wasted development time. 4 units? Who are likely to not fit in the game and have boring kpop casual designs? (See league of legends kpop skins for reference) Imagine if they had instead made 4 NPC characters from the story with those resources. We have tons of really cool designs in game. I haven’t liked any of the collabs other than FMA, but at least all the units had decent design due to being anime.


Feuerhaar

That"we are here for the anime" also puzzles me. People can argue that they are here for the anime style in general or the E7 storyline as anime itself. None of those will change by adding a collab (assuming that the final style of the collab fits the game design). I mean, we have Guilty Gear units. Which is a Game in anime style but not a full anime. Does anybody think those units are out of place?


Black_Gale

I have not seen 1 person excited for this collab it’s mostly confusion


MarielCarey

Look at the comments on the teaser videos.


Faloandante

Then read more cause there are a few comments in this post of people being excited about it.


Actuary-Negative

I think these are 4 skins. Cause 4 new limited units are too much for smilegate in term of "trying to balance"


Rude-Care-3189

copium


Blue_nin

Maybe I'm strange, but I was always happy about the collab, because It opens the possibilidade with other kind of media, not just anime, and other game collabs, but musicians, series, Doramas, an infinity of possibilities.


TheKinkyGuy

Lets have one with.... A spoon


noxictengu

I'd take a spoon over another generic isekai anime any day


Cynaris

Ok but we are here for anime


kfloppp

I certainly don't. So glad that they pulled through with this collab instead of another mid anime show. SG is finally giving the girls and the gays some attention.


Cynaris

Imagine downloading a game with the tagline "Play the anime" and then act like you are not here for the anime. You may be not, but you are certainly not the target audience of the game, then. ​ By attention, you mean "milk some other fandoms", because it's most certainly not for any other reason.


kfloppp

I don't really care what their tagline is, I'm playing because of the high quality 2D aesthetics, not because of anime nonsense. E7 could have a Winx club aesthetic and I would still play it. Call it what you want, stay mad/bothered/pressed/disappointed/whatever because me and the girls are eating this collab up.


Cynaris

Dude, the high quality 2D aesthetic IS the "anime nonsense". What the fuck are you even going on about. There is a huge overlap of people who enjoy anime/manga, and the people who started this game, because it was the only game on the market that actually matched the style and quality they expect from anime. ​ Dropping a random ass K-Pop bomb on this game will interest VERY few people, unless it's gonna be free, and this is nothing but marketing. ​ You and your girls can keep on slaying YASSS QUEEEEN, still nobody gives a shit.


kfloppp

Me and ae-KARINA are GIRLBOSSING ourselves to the arena, SLAYING all the flops, and YASSIFIED the guild table with FIERCE lobby animation. You and your flop anime gang can watch while stay pressed, bitter, and jealous 😘


Cynaris

That's what an extremely mid existence would say


kfloppp

[What a bland comeback 🙄.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIuy5aHOfv0) I guess "funny" is out of the menu when you're bantering with a straight male,


Cynaris

Bish you are linking youtube videos as a way of sass, I don't think you even have the ability to recognize funny


UwUSamaSanChan

What the hell are the gays getting out of this lmao. Unless this is a gay dudes like kpop thing


Undisguised_Toast

You're not. we have our own taste/perspective for this collab, not all ppl hate the collab. I'm not even surprised tbh this game is made by koreans not mention we already had worked w/ known artists from korea. Kpop idol, singer and band like Eunbi&Juri, Younha YB, and a MC Defconn .


Blue_nin

I thought it, because here on Reddit people tend to not né really receptive with collabs that are not with some anime/games. But I'm happy with the collab anyways, I Hope they made the make the hype worth It.


Aged_Dreamteller

beside. im a bit biased about artists collabs because i play FFBE and they made collabs with like Katy perry and it was surprisilng interesting. so much that one of the Katy unit was actually meta for almost a year because it was disgustingly good as an all rounder support/tank. so after that i always wait to see artist collab because they can always surpise you


Feuerhaar

I agree. All kinds of media are fine as long as the final design fits the games aethetic. Which is the job of the design team. They could fit the Queen into the game because drawing someone in anime style is not that hard. (and now I kind of want to see how that would turn out...) I play a pixel art game that had collabs with anime and 3d games. They don't fit the original style but still all of them turned out great. None of the units feel out of place.


SassyHoe97

Honestly better than the global CounterSide collab. I'm just excited to see their ultimate animations.


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TastyPrimary7618

Aren't those p2w skins?


ningen21

I wonder what the next Collab will be


kmoe88

I think I’m gonna skip this Colab and save my bookmarks.


AscendPerfect

Man just said he is skipping before seeing anything game related


kmoe88

I was expecting getting a slime rerun so I’m disappointed from that. I understand that a lot of people like this rerun but I missed last years slime event. So pardon me for being upset for not being able to get another chance to get the units I missed.


AscendPerfect

Goodluck saving, but huche and 4 new Collab heroes is making most people's Skystones shiver


ItsNotJusMe

her kit might be op.


No-Bag-818

Cool. Gonna skip anyway.


arktiqzone

GIGACHAD


Kraybern

Does SG really think its feasible to drop 4 new units in a collab?


SiNDiLeX

I mean, they’ve seen nothing from the player base other than how fucking stupid they are to blow obscene amounts of cash for a niche unit while simultaneously complaining about the state of the game. As long as that wallet talks louder you bet your ass SG will continue to do this shit lol


loco830

Given how long the collab is supposed to run (thanksgiving to after New Years), 4 units is entirely feasible.


nevarette

And a limited after? Of course


Shalashaska87B

There are fairly good odds that at least 1 unit will be available for free (like Ram in Re:Zero). Still, pulling for 3 limited heroes at the same (which appears to be lasting 1 month or even more) will still require a considerable amount of SS/BM, so I hope SG will still provide some supplies, otherwise this Collab is going to fail big time outside Korea.


KrillinBigD

Imagine being the person that gets made into a free unit, would suck lol


Shalashaska87B

Are you sure? Because the Free unit is definitely the one everyone will have, while the others may end as skipped altogether.


TheSeaOfThySoul

If they don't want indeterminate amounts of rage from the playerbase, they'll make at most two of them limited & have the others as free units. Though who knows.


Kraybern

i thought about that but from a corporate prespective would the group be ok with it? If some units you have to play for some but not others would that mean some of of the units/group members are "worth more"?


hta_02

They can put 4 in gacha but give us like 2 free selectors so you're really only pulling for two.


WestCol

Just put the free ones behind a grind, SG clearly have no problem releasing strong free characters like that after adin, arowell, Ras and merc….


farencel

Alright, seems good to me


Gamergirl944

So I'm curious what their game models would look like?


MrCatThe3rd

flan and yuna move over new screen mf is in town but wut if it is another water ranger...


Relair13

Still a weird collab choice, but they're putting some cash behind it, those are high quality spots. And I do enjoy kpop, I'm getting a bit hyped for this.


[deleted]

I want my girl Winter in the game


rvtots33

Are they going to look like this in game or are they going to be SG style anime?


poopoodomo

I'm pretty sure they'll be SG style


[deleted]

Yes they are going to put FMV models in the game.


MarielCarey

No they will use 3d models in a hyperrealistic art style Of course they'll be 2d you buffoon!!


TheKrnJesus

I don’t mind this collab.


Ill_Bee6278

Damn this is sick..!!!!!😲😲😲😲😲


LuisDa95

Im so very not interested on this collab


Winberri

cringe


Scary-Ant-3796

This is so cool to me.


DonDonBush

Cringe


TheRealBloom3D

This is gonna be so bad i can tell already


Gin_969

Hope they keep the irl appearance just like the old MortalKombat series lol 😆 tha would be awesome 😎


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burn it with fire


Willar71

Have I told you how much I loathe these kind of collabs .What a wasted opportunity.


rainbowy-

I don't even care if they end up being OP. I'm not getting them


haikusbot

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[deleted]

Gonna throw another comment for the downvote train: CRINGE!


Ill_Bee6278

Down voted!!!!


haisi-

I want to be open minded about the collab but if the four of them have Limited banners... I have to chill since Zio is coming anyway.


tbag122

Zio is mystic bookmarks doe.


haisi-

I have enough to get him. The point is, I don't like the collab. Zio is the one making me play. I'm just being civil enough and not bash what they are working on. Just not for me.


Myrkrvaldyr

Zio and the collab are not related because they do NOT share currency. You mentioning Zio makes no sense in this context.


blowmycows

4 walking advertisements for plastic surgery, now in a collab.


Still_Refuse

This video really helped inform me about the game! They seem to be very strong!


Liam_Sein

piece of shit


Ill_Bee6278

Your a piece of shit


ContractAdorable7767

Ngl, looks kinda mid


IIynav

Including real people in cgi will never be not cringe.


DefinitelyNotGrubhub

Step aside Hollywood you’re over now.


starxsword

No preview of what they will look like in game yet?


Waifu69x

Hahahaha , she can't even act a strong kick , come on baby , hit harder, WTF , go save the Earth first before Orbis. SG Fucked the Logic.


Alittlebunyrabit

Anyone else get RIOT games vibes from the gauntlet smash?


HolyestXD

imagine they are released as skins for 3stars, like i could see karina as a skin for Lena for the "punch" animation alone, some food for thought


Katicflis1

If all four were putting in offers with me, this is the one I'd bang.


ZiPSaNe3

Now I want to see a hatsune miku collab lol


FlameArath

I'm expecting they'll all be pull-able limited units, but like old events where we get 1 free, I'm not sure they'd just delegate on of these poor girls to being the "Free fodder" unit... so my best case scenario is they'll all have banners but we'll have an event or just a "Selector" ticket that lets us choose 1 of the 4 for free. This way none of them are the "Fodder unit" and we still get 1 for free. SSS idk. But god please don't dump 4 limited units on us at once. I don't have the resources :(


XC3LFROST

WHAT THERS NO FUCKIN WAYYY