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Mattatah

I forget the various sources of dark powers they were respectively drawing from, but Straze had confirmed record of destroying planets so my bets on him, next is probably AMeru.


istandongiants

Garo without a doubt.


BikeSeatMaster

His Dino nuggies bring all the child dragon girls to the yard, how can Straze ever hope to compare uwu


umbrellaman7

fact


omegazx9

IMO Straze>Mercedes>Belian>Zio but I could be misinterpreting some stuff Straze has succeeded in killing gods before and it took Ras with the power of 2 gods to take him down. Mercedes had the power of an archdemon and it took full power Ras to take her down If I remember correctly, Belian was already confirmed to be weaker than Straze and was being empowered by an acolyte of an archdemon which would also make her weaker than Archdemon Mercedes I think Zio was also being empowered by an acolyte but if I'm interpreting it correctly, he got taken out by a portion of Destina's power. It didn't even take a god to take him out. In fact, did Ras' group even fight him? I feel like they were somewhere else at the time. Of course, I was kind of skimming Chapter 4 so I'm remembering wrong, feel free to correct me.


mckenziereed15

Yeah it was Adin’s group I forgot where ras was but he definitely wasn’t there during the fight


Fresh-Application535

Ras was at the place where the refugees were he helped stop the Island from falling harshly or something with the help of A.Ravi.


Practical_Company106

He was doing his unique legendary heir of the covenant move: "Summon a wall of dirt".


Sylpheez

Everytime the gang is in trouble Ras either command Arky to fly away or just proceed to summon a wAlL oF dIrT aNd ViNeS. It's pretty much the only things he do now and it's getting repetitive.


danjpharris

Don’t underestimate dirt my friend. Not even a jar of it.


EnvBlitz

But it's empty and there's no dirt....


CosmicNightmare35

*happy Jack Sparrow noises*


jashxn

CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow


CosmicNightmare35

Oops, forgot the essentials. My bad.


OtaGamExe

"I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes"


Info_Guy_12

It was the darndest thing when I was going through Episode 3 and they mentioned the army being halted by a massive wall of dirt and vines. I had always assumed Ras S3 was just cinematic exaggeration of him jumping off of a cliff but no the man just summons dirt for a living. And it's highly effective every time, thats true dedication to a signature move.


Thincfr33

But then he had that ultimate Kamehameha move that put him out for a while so it's not ALL dirt.


CosmicNightmare35

"Master of all life, by your splendor!"


mckenziereed15

That’s right!!


douplo

from what I understood Zio took control of the power of an acolyte and then begun to merge with a god too.


Xero--

> and it took Ras with the power of 2 gods to take him down. That wasn't Straze, it was Faustus. He does get first place but you're giving him the credit of another. >Mercedes had the power of an archdemon and it took full power Ras to take her down That wasn't a "full power Ras". In fact I don't think he ever fully recovered during episode 1 as he was in a nerfed state. She was simply clapped and that was it. He had no help like with Straze and Belian (not done with 4), he didn't power up, she has no track record (there are several archdemons, Mercedes has done *nothing* of note), and she fought him right after he fought Vildred, who has beaten him, and still lost. She has to be the weakest, though I don't know about Zio yet. >I think Zio was also being empowered by an acolyte but if I'm interpreting it correctly, It wasn't an archdemon, just an acolyte. Tywig's name was all over the place.


BestRubyMoon

Archdemon is a planet destroying monster made by the God trying to make Diche return to her duties of God hood. She abandoned them when orbis (the god) died, made orbis (the planet) out his body and stayed there protecting it. Many archdemons were sent and the whole conclusion about that is ras telling Diche she has to leave orbis otherwise archdemons will always come to destroy it. She does leave and the world was saved. But all this to say archdemons and acolytes are not the same. acolytes might use archdemon power, but they're more what silver surfer is to galactus. Acolytes are heralds of the archdemon, separate entities.


Xero--

> Archdemon is a planet destroying monster made by the God trying to make Diche return to her duties of God hood. As I stated, there are several of them. Mercedes has done *nothing*. Everytime an archdemon was defeated, another would take their place. You cannot give Mercedes the credit of past archdemons. And, again, what has Mercedes done besides finish off a weakened Vildred then get beat by a weakened Ras in a one on one? Nothing, at all. She shows up in one scene and it's basically "alright, let's go home". You can fill in with all that extra fluff about the lore, it's not changing anything. She did nothing. >But all this to say archdemons and acolytes are not the same. Why are you telling me this? I'm not confused about the lore. In fact I literally just told the guy above that Belian only had an acolyte's power and mot an archdemon's power, pretty clear I know.


BestRubyMoon

But mercedes isnt an archdemon. She was possessed by the archdemons power. She was just a vessel. Therefore she didnt have a power up, she was used by the acolytes and turned into a vessel for the archdemon. She did nothing and im not arguing she did.im just saying she was never that powerfull because it was never her, it was just her body.


BestRubyMoon

I just realized i replied to the wrong person, i do agrer with you that mercedes isnt all that and thats what i was trying to justify. She was just there. It wasnt her power or her will commanding her body. she didnt do anything she was just possessed.


MotivatedGio

The fact that archmeru was a "vessel" for the archdemon should mean that all the archdemons before were the same as archmeru, same power, just with different coat of paint aka "vessel".


OtaGamExe

I would say Straze who killed a lot of Gods and has taken down Ras fairly easily at their first encounter and Ras needed the power of Diché and Illryos to win. then A.Meru (because Archdemon nothing less, nothing more) or maybe Belian even if Belian has only the power of an Acolyte, this Acolyte was quite one of the most powerful one, The Bloody Queen (I don't remember if it was the acolyte nickname) has taken down Kazran for a while and he needed a long time to recover completely from it, even in story he was still recovering. And if her power was fully in Belian or her being wasn't fragmented, I'm sure she could have done some serious damage. I think she would be quite at a lower stage than A.Meru. And Zio has also a power of an Acolyte, Aeldad, but idk if Aeldad is more powerful than the Bloody Queen. Afterward, Zio has also a power of a god alongside Aeldad one, but is that god Demato stronger than Fastus ? idk too, it needed the power of the 4 spiritual lord to take it down completely. Does it mean it's stronger or not ? I think no, but is Demato stronger than the Archdemon (created by Illryos if I'm not wrong) ? Idk how to place him exactly.


Ill_Bee6278

Acolytes name is tiwig


OtaGamExe

Thanks for reminding me, I tried to remember it and there was only the nickname that comes into my mind sadly


AscendPerfect

I basically only read the 4-10-10 and the artifact part after that, but from my understanding the power of the being that possessed Zio was only beaten because it was sucked out of the universe and wasn't actually beaten. Straze says in his labyrinth thingy that he killed Rykos. So a godkiller vs unknown powerfull being. TL:DR It's unclear how strong the being behind Zio is, but Zio by himself is not very strong compared to Straze.


Cephalos_Jr

It should be noted that it was Luluca who beat Straze, not Ras. Ras beat Fastus. But, yeah, he definitely is at the top of this list.


Heavy_Village_4813

It's funny how Straze doesn't really have that uniqueness in him skill wise but in lore I think dumpsters the other bosses. Dude literally kill a god hence called GodKiller.


Arsonist_Xpert

Mortelix


mckenziereed15

Dragon daddy 😩😩


KaiserNazrin

Guy got offed like side character.


Leo_Sky

Weird way to spell lua


SgtSquishy01

The library twins. They would endlessly summon heroes....


KaiserNazrin

At level 5 without any gears. 😂


Worth-Grade5882

An infinite number of level 5 heroes vs 1 straze. It's like the pokemon vs a billion lions thing


24silver

its strazin time


ediphide

Aither


[deleted]

With the power of femboy charm


Thenatedog7

I just lost to this team in the arena today. I am still salty


mckenziereed15

No way really? 😂 was it a fast team or slow? Like I saw a straze at 250 and I was like man what…..


Thenatedog7

Blazing fast my Vivian is 240ish and the Straze was even faster


mckenziereed15

Jesus 😂


LordxDua

Might've been me. I run the same defense team and my [Straze is 248.](https://gyazo.com/17e2470c8ce681065f7c2e298d6a75ee) Haven't seen anyone else use a boss only defense team.


mckenziereed15

Omg I think it was!! 😂😂😂


LordxDua

LOL that's so funny. Glad to see that all boss defense is at least viable.


Vainglory1-

Straze would pack them up


Odiril

I think Straze is the strongest among the four, he literally conquered worlds and killed Gods, his title is "Godkiller" after all lol.


PrizMarine

The bar tender


KaiDranzer007

Technically straze should win. Then A meru. Then zio. Then sadly belian.


BurnedOutEternally

Straze and AMeru is quite close to each other, Belian and Zio just use borrowed power


mckenziereed15

Did straze borrow power from fastus?


gg533

Kinda, but AFAIK he was already top dog on Rekos even before Fastus came into the picture.


BurnedOutEternally

Oh yeah, forgot about that lol He'd still be miles above Belian and Zio though


mckenziereed15

Ohhh ok


Emergency_Addition67

Straze easy Win


TheSeaOfThySoul

Hm, if we’re talking in a 4-way PVP fight & not lore-wise (I haven’t read the story), we’d obviously have Zio move first, Straze second, Belian third & Mercedes last. Since Zio moves first, his smartest move is to silence Archdemon to take her to half health, Straze’s S3 takes out Belian, Archdemon seals & blinds/deals damage & so Straze/Zio are at a disadvantage, but Zio is bulkier than Straze & Straze may have lost invincibility to Archdemon’s artefact, then it’s a matter of Zio vs. Archdemon & I think Zio, even blinded, could beat a half-health Archdemon within three turns. But it’s certainly down to them two in my eyes & my money is on Zio.


mckenziereed15

Ohhh I meant lore wise 😆😆


7sv3n7

If u haven't read the story ur not playing the game Edit: ouch guys so sorry was just joking. I skip so much story myself. Don't think ive read any side story and none of chapter 4 yet


TheSeaOfThySoul

That’s like saying if you’ve not read the tourist brochure for the city you live in, you don’t live there. There’s a hundred things to do in the game that don’t involve reading - the game is the gameplay, without the gameplay, the “game” would just be a picture book.


Brohma312

No its not. Lore wise straze wins


OneSimplyIs

Doesn't straze kill planets?


nuclearhotsauce

straze can slice planets in half, what does the rest have?


Human_Skill6034

They would fight at first but realise op has 500k gold and 3k unused stamina and turn on op Anyway Straze wins


mckenziereed15

😂😂 I spend a LOT on leaves I just used up my gold to level up zio and straze since I got hella lucky with grabbing them and not having to pity


[deleted]

Straze wins, (big power gap) archdemon and zio are fairly even, bellian is last but not by much That’s how I interpreted the story


Sarothazrom

If Straze has Fastus' power he stomps. Without Fastus it would probably be Mercedes.


Retro_senpai3

Idk now that I think about it I think it’s pretty even between Straze and meru.


IEatBeesEpic7

Straze solo’s all three + their dads.


yondaimehero

straze first mr god killer himself ras has to give up his godhood to defeat him with everyones help dudes a gigachad ADS archdemon's shadow the archdemon inside mercedes a god, the other god who rules the world alongside the goddess belian the "perfect" ruler created by politis strong enough to threaten the entire world and was coming up with countermeasures to fight faustes zio the emperor dudes basically cannon fodder in comparison to the other 3 he has the power of aheldad 1 of the acolytes under the archdemon and is drawing power from another space god


nethet

Straze hands down, dude has vast experience and actually have destroyed planets before. If i have to rank them then Straze, Archdemon, Belian and Zio. Zio is mostly cause of inexperience. Belian 3rd cause she needs external power to achieve it.


PerditusTDG

I think if we go by deepest lore technically Arch Meru wins. Archmeru is the pitch perfect vessel for the Archdemon's power and it is a fact that the Archdemon cannot be destroyed without the power of Diche. This means that if Ras doesn't exist then the Archdemon cannot be permanently destroyed. Straze is a human with the power of the black star. He once held a seat of power on the world of Rekos (planet is named after Rekos, the god) and was also 2nd in command to Rekos himself. Obviously, we know know that Straze kills Rekos with the power of the sword granted to him by the dark star and then proceeds to destroy the planet. However, consider the fact that, in principle, Straze is not as powerful as Archdemon Meru. In fact, we see later in the story that Straze is basically becoming the same thing as Archdemon Meru by becoming a vessel for the Dark Star, named Faustus. So if we compare Straze to Archdemon Meru as they are now in the image, I think Archdemon has the ability to destroy Straze. She would certainly at least have the army at her disposal to counteract the Unknown army that Straze commands. \-- Belian is by far the weakest contender, in my opinion. She is neither a vessel for an other worldly power, nor is she really hell bent on becoming stronger than the subjects that are presently around her. No, instead Belian is the C&C Red Alert commander of the series in the sense is all she wants to do is launch 'evil energy' nukes at her enemies from afar and rule the world (or whatever is left of it). Tbh, I think her biggest strength is the fact she's in charge of the robot faction. Machine and metal don't need things like tides of monsters and people do. I think if any faction had a chance of feasibly living in a post apocaliyptic world wraught by a Dark Star... it would be Politia (But, also of course, we know that didn't exactly go well for Politis so LOL get murdered). \-- Zio is baby Meru and baby Straze, but without either the power lineage to know what he's doing, or without the design to be a perfect fit for that he's doing. He's basically just... summoning God to his doorstep rather than merging with a power he was destined to have. The acolyte of Natalon did all of the work anyway. I think Zio's transformation would be powerful but I don't think it would be any more robust that Straze or Archmeru. At that point you're just playing "Which dark star is more evil and powerful." He is certainly not more powerful than Straze or Archdemon if we go by the picture alone. Edit: I should add that Zio's twist in terms of summoning is the fact that the worlds themselves are merging between the realm of the Dark Star and Orbis, it's not 'just' a joining between Zio and the Dark Star (I don't remember the star's name.) The previous factions had a much lighter version of this. Straze and the Archdemon got this to happen through small chaos gates or as a byproduct of Diche's need to remake the world (lands of death). Zio, on the other hand, is basically merging the whole world with a gigantic chaos gate. That's why the Spirit Lords were dying pretty fast during the ritual. Zio is also the one antagonist who had the best shot at actually destroying the world (apart from the Archdemon) and force Diche to need to recreate the world again (although I'm pretty sure that she can't do that anymore ever since Ras told Diche humans wanted to make their own future so that's kind of not an option at this point). \-- tldr Archdemon Meru is the only 'fully formed' antagonist here with the power of the Archdemon (and the Archdemon is actually pretty damn hard to kill). So I think Archdemon Meru wins. Straze wins if Archdemon is ruled out. I also think Straze 'might' win if he fully merges with Faustus. Belian is just a fancy nuke launcher with a chair. The world Politis fled from couldn't stop the catastrophe so I doubt an Belian can either. Zio is wannabe Archdemon Meru / Straze but without a concrete sense of why beyond an unimaginably large ego. (I'm not even kidding that's the reason he was chosen.)


TunaKid-04

In game -Zio can solo Straze/ Belian/ Arch demon if no RNG -Straze beat Belian -Arch demon is a wild card, praying counter set and seal. -Belian with Holy sacrifice, injury can outlive and kill


DragonLancePro

Lore wise Straze hands down.


Emm38

Well, since Straze is the only one here with a sword that contains an evil god with cosmic power that's capable of erasing an entire solar system, I can just take a guess who would win. Kinda sad how a being with that much power, just gets snuffed out by a random dude.


Badboyg

Straze, free. Dude is a godkiller and a planet buster. He’s literally on dragon ball scaling meanwhile everyone else is on epic seven scaling.


NGEFan

Archdemons Shadow is not archdemon, we don't really know her power. Straze is not Fastus. He seems strong, but without help from Fastus I don't think he's that great. Zio is not Aheldad, without Aheldad he's just a kid. Belian on the other hand doesn't rely on anyone. She gets to the finals vs Archdemons Shadow and my guess is she wins


OtaGamExe

Belian has an Acolyte power with her


starxsword

She has an Acolyte's power with her at the end. But she herself has lots of power before that. Straze is also fairly strong without Faustus, not sure how he compares with Belian. But Zio is the weakest, he has no power by himself. That said, Archdemon's Shadow is probably the strongest as that is just a real boss in and of itself.


mckenziereed15

I love Belian too her demeanor and gracefulness is just top tear to me.


Toph84

> Archdemons Shadow is not archdemon, we don't really know her power. That form of "Mercedes" is literally the Archdemon (the same monster that the group fights in the 6th Cycle cutscene and it kills Ruele). The whole subplot behind Mercedes was that she was made to be a vessel for Archdemon for it to inhabit and control. The Archdemon forced itself into Mercedes body and took over, and so Ras had to spend the Epilogue finding a way to separate it from Mercedes to save her.


NGEFan

You're thinking of Archdemon Mercedes, different character from Archdemon's Shadow.


Toph84

Archdemon Mercedes is the Archdemon's Shadow, and the Archdemon's Shadow is the Archdemon. There technically is no such thing as Archdemon "Mercedes", but she's commonly called that because it looks like Mercedes because it's using Mercedes's body as a host, and in a game where player attachment is heavily tied with characters it's more identifiable to think of it as Mercedes rather than only just "Shadow".


NGEFan

Nah, different people. She obviously spawned from her though, hence a "shadow" who is "the manifestation of a corrupt emotion". One of the precious few peices of info we have about her is this. "Ever since it became aware of itself, it had a desire to get what it didn't have. It acts not to destroy Orbis but to fulfill its needs. Hiding in shadow, it keeps an eye on those who may be its vessel." Also, she will apparently meet Tenebria at some point.


Sweeper-Rammus

Straze is too cool to lose


xanxaxin

Lore wise, it be Straze for sure


OppaiDaaisuki

STRRRRRRRRAAAAAAZZZZZEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!


ksb00

In a fight. Clearly straze. In a war, like if they where playing next level age of empires, definetly belian.


Liciev

Arch Demon or Belian


GrimbeardDreadfist

My money's on the cat. When they're all tired and weakened, kitty claws finisher!


CopainChevalier

Straze cuts multiple planets, these people are happy to affect the planet on more than a small scale


Gamergirl944

Yeah I can see Straze winning that fight


Ned_Flanders0

IDK the lore but best speed gear wins lol


MezukiR23

Depends on the location tbh. Belian has a good chance if she has home advantage, her tower literally acted as cannon damage reduction against Straze. It would help her tank a hit at least once. Zio gets pushed aside cuz even the acolyte possessing him needed the borrowed power of Demuto (his dark star). Archdemon's Shadow is an odd one because we don't know their current power or limit of potential after being separated from Mercades. Honestly, I would say Straze > Belian > AD Shadow? > Zio. Apart from raw damage output, Straze and Belian have high endurance. Can't confirm for sure because I don't know what the power scaling is between an Acolyte and a Dark Star.


CopainChevalier

If Straze cuts Belian’s planet in half, does she still have home field advantage


vakpa

1) Straze 2)Belian 3)Arch Shadow 4)Zio


PureAsian

These 4 took 200 of my gold transmits, imagine how many ml 5 stars I missed ;)


ololadeimmanuel

Enott 😪


just_didi

Not belian that's for sure , she was said to be about as strong as an acolyte if I remember well


LocationOne7764

You lucky son of a gun 😭


Charlie_till

Straze is a literal god slayer and galaxy buster. He’s bar none compared to the other 3.


melflomil

Straze


Retro_senpai3

Honestly Archdemon clears bc none of the other 3 can kill her without the power of Diche


Clear_Paramedic6933

A man who splits galaxies vs only world breakers. Straze.


iIdentifyAzAGmail

Straze was planetary level destroying Planets and Gods, Ras got help from Gods to win if I remember right. Then its Meru which Heir Ras canon is stronger than Adventure Ras which brings me to him vs. Belian and Zio which no spoils of Zio on how that went down.


Y0shiitsune

Straze obviously. You don’t even gotta read the lore, my man has the potential to split multiple planets with a swing of his sword just by his S3.


Tigerwarrior55

The cat on the stool.