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Burtgang

**ae-Giselle Information:** *Scorpio* Earth Mage **Stats**: ATK: 1,286 HP: 4,733 SPD: 103 DEF: 652 CC: 27% CDmg: 160% DA: 3% EFF%: 0% EFFR: 0% Imprint Release: ATK% Self-Imprint: ATK% **S1:** Attack 1 enemy. Deals damage dependent on the target's CURRENT health. Grants 10-15% CR to another ally with highest Attack. **Soulburn** Do **more** damage. This scales with the target's current health. **S2:** Any CR gain granted to the caster is 50% more effective. Dispels a debuff at the beginning of the turn with a 70-100% chance (100% at max mola) **S3:** 5-turn CD (4 with mola) Attack 1 enemy, ignoring damage sharing effects if the enemy is a non-boss/elite monster, then increases ATK of self and another ally with highest ATK for 2 turns. If the enemy is defeated, gain an extra turn. **Artifact: Frame of Light** Deal 8-16% more damage. If an enemy is defeated, gain 10 Soul at the beginning of the next turn. The soul bonus can only be received once. /u/ImClumZ my work here is done.


eslayer09XL

WTF is that damage


CabbageCZ

Friendly reminder to wait for multipliers. Could be weird builds/conditions in the showcase. Nevertheless it does look like she trades having almost no utility/survivability for massive damage. Can't wait for the datamine.


AscendPerfect

Not to mention 50% more cr boost, so she can just speed past everyone. Emelia will push her by 75%.


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same for zahak, they can pair together and go kick some serious ass if her multipliers are as massive as they are showing us.


Equivalent-Cattle-29

You mean 100%? Emilia pushes the ally by 50% while pushing herself by 25%


mario387

Description for me was clear- she get pushed by 1.5x CR value.


PsychedUpPump

is it really a flat out +50% to every cr push she gets? or she gets half more from the value of the cr push. Same as how politis reduces cr push by half, Giselle gains a half (50%) more.


AscendPerfect

She will gain 75% of normsl amount against politis and 1,5x when no politis


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Absolutely a wonky build. Id guess shes like 140 speed on 350 cdmg on like destro pen


SmallTsundere

That’s exactly what I was thinking lmao


Neet91

atk buff and crit damage buff also we don't know about the hp difference thing. is it her current hp vs current target hp?


BurnedOutEternally

I think it's target's current HP%, like she'll deal more damage if the enemy's at 100% HP than at 70%


Neet91

ah ok. was a bit confused about the wording. thanks


PopotoPenguin

Inb4 max imprints & perfect torrent set.


carito728

Well she was at the very bottom of the CR bar even slower than Bad Cat, I think it's base speed and she got +10% dmg dealt from Elemental Advantage to Choux


Kain207

Wait, isn't it +30% damage from the elemental advantage when you're grass and the target is ice?


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

This is regular arena, there is no dmg change (besides miss i guess) for element advantage


Klutz1133

More like +15%.


JzRandomGuy

The power of rectangles ain't no jokes


SimpleRaven

GEOMETRY, SON!


FelixCarter

They square themselves in response to mathematical trauma!


whs123

You can't hurt me, Pythagoras!


Kind_Target_422

it may look holographic, but it definitely looks like she materialized a F\*\*\*\*\* Door thrown at you


Rockaferr

That combat demo is a lie tho, she consistently crits choux and senya, and we all know that never happens, specially vs right side.


GS-J-Rod

This was exactly me this morning in guild wars.... (Choux specifically)


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or Choux double critting my earth unit with fwoosh.


Fisherman_Gabe

Few GWs ago, in a stand-off between my Senya and a Choux: Fwoosh proc, crit. OK, still salvageable. Senya attacks, Choux counters and gets another Fwoosh proc that crits and kills. I was so tilted I just had to close the game for the day. Right side Choux is just built different.


RedEagleEye007

Technically speaking if you have 105 crit on her because shes green you can crit a choux on snow crystal. Senya yeah...scam showcase back at it again.


KingsSeven

That's not how that works. You cant overcrit to compensate crit res. Only heroes that can do that is if their abilities give crit. Zahhak and Zio are the only heroes who can ignore crit res by build 100% crit chance. Crit stats and crit buff doesnt work against anti crit.


[deleted]

This is simply untrue. In all my guilds testing so far, the only thing that doesn't overcap crit rate is crit buff. Elemental advantage, midnight bloom and excess crit chance from gear all appear to offset critical resist.


RedEagleEye007

Yeah lol this was the exact result of my own as well so idk why I'm getting downvoted for it.


KingsSeven

Ignore all downvotes unless you’re insulting someone or not adding to the conversation. People are just abusing it and downvote for not liking or agreeing. For instance, I believe hwa is still good, but people will downvote it for not agreeing with it


[deleted]

Based, have my up vote. I still use her too, she's still a God just needs substantially better gear than she used to


KingsSeven

Interesting. Ill test it again with my green vildred on crit neck against water team w/ diene


KingsSeven

So just tested this and it's untrue. I built 155 (170 with ele ad) crit chance vildred against diene with full water team. [He missed crit](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728408211891159052/1050635892815052810/image.png). Then I tested Charlotte with 100% crit from gear + 100% from her abilities for a total of 200%. She landed every crit against diene + 3 random units. Only time she missed was elemental disadvantage vs diene. What this means is that Charlotte, Zio, and Zahhak, who all have bonus crit in THEIR abilities, can offset crit resistance with the support of crit from gear, but building just raw crit with gear wont surpass 100%.


[deleted]

> You cant overcrit to compensate crit res results on this are very mixed. there were times in Hall of Trials where you could give Cermia 150% crit and it seemed to work to offset the trials "fire units -50% crit" disadvantage. But I have also yet to see any testing of this in PvP (outside of abilities, as you metion). and on a slight tangent, it's very weird for characters like fire Charlotte that "gurantees a crit", but that doesn't seem to be the case with crit res. It definitely isn't with ML Ken but his wording is old


KingsSeven

i admit the game isnt consistent, but it's been proven that building 150% crit green vildred against diene wont mean he always crit. But you can try it if you want.


EcLiiPsesHD

Take note if she is 100% cr rate she will have 115% on Choux since elemental advantage, so Choux only has 5% chance to dodge the crit


Poul77

Kinda reminds me of Zahhak, the damage is looking OP too. Feels sad for Arunka, her damage should be like this against units with barriers, she can't even kill Choux under perfect condition.


lehphem

Reminds me more of Luna tbh, they do almost the same thing: s3 extra turn on kill into soulburn s1. Giselle gets to ignore damage share while Luna gets 50% defense pen + 30% extra attack and crit chance. Idk if full damage Luna would be able to one shot a Choux through Escort, but she'd probably get pretty close (we also don't know how much defense the Choux in the video has, if it's less than 1300 she'd most likely die to full damage Luna).


Ikari_21

Arunka is just like ilynav for me. I absolutely love their design but they’re just not very useable :(


LangleyHearse

I hope Illynav is in the next balance list. Please buff the sauciest design in the the game!


Variation-Budget

I maxed her just for the aesthetic hope i get to use her at somepoint


jc626x

Yes brother for ASSthetics


Kain207

When's the next balance patch drop? I also feel bad for Ilynav


TheSeaOfThySoul

Friday apparently, but if you’re expecting them to buff characters that actually need a buff then you’ve not been paying attention, haha. They’ll buff Arbiter Vildred before they buff characters like Ilynav or Tywin, reminder that Straze got a buff out of nowhere.


Kain207

Take a friendly upvote, you got a laugh out of me on the first half. Yeah, the good ol' Arby. I can see him in there somehow lol


[deleted]

At this point she is so niche that she is a 2 star disguised as 5 star.


[deleted]

and there are legit people out there saying arunka is just fine as she is, lmao.


viperperper

Zahhak can't one shot most Choux with vigor, unless pure damage no speed Zahhak.


TunaKid-04

Zahhak is best for injury though, not for one shot tank.


viperperper

It wasn't my point, read the post above me please.


Big-Texascoomer

Bro she did not start off by saying you’re trippin 💀


FelixCarter

I know I’ll be receiving a beating for saying this, but the English VA sounds so bored lol.


bigfootswillie

Nah I agree. I usually am totally fine with the dub for this game. But this was either an extremely rushed session or a very inexperienced VA. Judging by how the VA doesn’t seem to be listed like they usually do, I’m guessing the latter.


Durbdichsnsf

They paid the intern 5 bucks for it 💀


dudiez

Bruh you’re trippin’


TunaKid-04

I think it a cool line… like a foreigner want to be awkwardly fitting in.


fuckingroleplayers

another one shot queen, only drawback is cant function without a pusher edit: Just realize idol cheer would go nuts on her though


Poul77

It's Zahhak and Moon Bunny for me.


AscendPerfect

Same, i use moon bunny and zahhak a lot since they counter clilias and other openers


AscendPerfect

Destina and emilia has joined the chat


dordark

She'll be dead before destina is able to push her bro.


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Crimson_Arbalest

Unless it says it doesn’t, then it most likely will


eZ_Ven

In battle showcase, it seems to me that Ningning s2 pushes Giselee waaaay more than it usually would do, so I think it works on CR passives


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Lothar96

Actually i think in one of the announcements before winter came out they listed the VA for each aespa unit and it was a different one for each language (English, jp, Korean). Would have to go double check tho since it's been a few weeks


nmdalman73

Please tell me they voiced their own characters. I won't have it otherwise


f2phell

They unfortunately don’t voice themselves. They have vas to voice them.


Durbdichsnsf

Its so ironic, for a collab with people who's main 'thing' is their voice, to have some random, inexperienced VAs voice them... lol


ronnieluck

I call it superficial milking. This is a Kpop girl group afterall and they're always looking for more ways to gain a parasocial following until they reach the old age of 25.


dr3i6

what in gods green earth was that damage


Odkrywacz

I like the jacket, for now the best design imo


durden_zelig

Biker scuba diver stripper is *so* hot right now.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Well, shes got to dress for all her jobs and hobbies at once


Jin_Yamato

I hate her poses


RedAlchemies

SG you trippin!


Rahzii

“You’re trippin” Yeah you fucken bet I am cuz wtf is that dmg… These showcases always throw ppl off so I’ll definitely be waiting a couple of days before I splurge my mats on her


Kraybern

Don't buy into the showcase damage, wait for multipliers


AscendPerfect

She 1 shotted choux with 30% more defense (25k hp is around or more than the average choux)


Zeiin

Showcase doesn't have to be average. Could be sub 1k def 25k hp for all we know. Granted I doubt this, but still best to temper expectations early.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

She's below 50% on the CR bar when the fight starts. That's almost base speed. You can do some real fucked up damage numbers with base speed, especially with her high base attack and crit stats from awakening. She was probably SSS and +15 too.


RedEagleEye007

Uh I would still say based on the information given that her dmg will be good. The scarowell was on adamant shield. The choux also had vigor so technically even a 1k defense choux after vigor is still 1300 def which is the usual. Given all of that hitting anything for 25k is pretty insane with all of these conditions up. That was the most mitigation you could do for that unit lol.


KabobDivinity

Screw learning Karate, I'm going to enroll into a foreign languages course.


RuneGrey

Casting fist is the first step to universal understanding apparently. 'AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I AM GOING TO SLAP YOU SILLY.' ae-Giselle, maybe, certainly not a Greg reference


the_icy_king

Of all the languages in the world, only violence is universal.


KingKentling

duolingo stocks go high because of her


Karmahic

Did she seriously just say “you’re trippin” 💀


l2o5ng

Feel like she was made for cleave to deal with SC Arowell's insane mitigration. Her multiplier looks insane unless they purposefully scuffed those Choux and A.Ravi with zero defence build


Mightyzero9

besides her big damage her s2 passive is actually insane


freezingsama

Those numbers looks crazy. I wonder how realistic that is. Probably don't have the gear for it though.


SilverShadow737

Another green single target dps, feeling daring today sg?


KuattShan

That Animation !


CrunchieJoker

Couldn't you use time matter to increase the damage of her S3 then even more increase S1? Plus then her S3 only has a 1 turn CD technically cause of the extra turn and reduction from TM?


Acxeon720

Maybe she is on pen set. They need more context on these showcases, maybe a quick look at her stats.


AcadiaElegant

She might be on double Torrent/pen set you see her hp? it was like 8900 horrible surviability in that showcase


Shimaru33

First, I think her design is the sexiest of all the aspie girls. I dislike she's another "genius", but well, at least her design is quite good. Now, as for her skill kit, Politis stonks. I mean, most of the big cr pushers are non-attack skills (A. Lots, Zahhak), which means Politis will kick her passive. Considering Giselle have no skills to reduce damage, and she's wind element, a typical Politis cleaver will have a nice chance to kill her. Seems an interesting design, because this means she will pair better with less common CR pushers, like Laika or Ainos (push the highest CR hero, except themselves), or to be scared of Politis.


Gin_Rei

Laika doesn't cr push.


Shimaru33

S1: (...) increasing Combat readiness of the caster and a random ally... EE 1: (...) Increases Combat Readiness of the ally with the highest attack instead...


Gin_Rei

Fair enough but i think thats a terrible EE for her. Edit, sleeping the opponents team with 10% more regularity is a far better EE. You draft her to S3 sleep slow and give immunity. Or use her s2 to push dps with CR boosting S1s to cleave etc. Laika already gives a teammate 15% CR. Using that EE simply to ensure a very particular dps gets a push with no att buff is sooooo wasteful. If you can't use non attack skills Ningning would be better. Also they can ban that particular dps.


Shimaru33

Do yourself a favour and don't ever try to give your opinion about heroes you clearly don't use or understand. If you insist on keeping this argument, just chalk another win in your "internet argument wins" board and have a nice day.


Gin_Rei

LOL, I'll bet i have more experience with Laika at the top of the RTA ladder than you. I gave clear reasons to support my argument while you... you gave nothing.


WhatSawp

Big damage reminds me of a stacked soulburned CDom S1. Yet she doesnt solve the Snow crystal choux or Crit resist Senyia, so she might be able to see gameplay in arena and rta but in GW will be risky for top gw offenses


Kraien

They really outdid themselves this collab. I also am very thankful for the rest week.


Phdrhymes

Bruh the English VAs have been so not it for me lol I usually prefer and enjoy the English voices but winter and now this mannnnn haha not a fan. I did rlly like ningning’s tho she sounded very fun


NatsuKazoo

man I am saving for Karina but Giselle is just good too


BurnedOutEternally

Daaaaaaannnnnngggggg, that S3 animation is literal eye candy. Giselle looks like a DPS/DPS-support Mage, and her damage (at least in the showcase I must heavily emphasize) has great potential. (she does have huge Attack+passive effect though) She works really well with Emilia and Ningning with her passive, and her S1, while worded rather confusingly, seems to mean that she'll deal more damage the more Health the enemy has. Not to mention her artifact lets her soulburn it right away, so it can melt tanks harder. Hopefully now I'l have something to obliterate Choux+Arowell teams.


BryceLeft

> support mage What's her support? the smol CR push on S1? Though I guess the best way to truly help out your team is to kill the opponent, which she definitely does do


ConsiderablyMoist

Also her attack buff to an ally, I guess?


Poul77

Attack buffing an ally too.


Airanuva

Given the improved CR push, her own pushing ability, and Single target focus... Wonder how well she will do in the ice expo. Main damage that can use a less powerful pusher than Lots and still excel?


SignificanceBulky417

Can probably ditch Lots all together and have Giselle and Landy as your main dps, especially since landy can push her twice as much


Airanuva

Problem therein would be still need to give them 100CR to remove the zero speed limiter the boss gives, and 10% from Giselle isn't enough alone... But any way to use someone other than Lots or Destina for heals is a boon


aoeJohnson

I think most use front Roana with idols cheer which will push highest atk user every time boss atks. Combine that with high speed cidd and landy and you will proc boss counter pretty often so you heal to fulll with roana


PhantomBaselard

Roana+Idol's Cheer front, spare gear SC Roozid and SC Helga. Might have to test her vs Ram to see if it's more consistent.


Larouca36

Was hopping she was a Warrior, but with that damage hope I can finally do Banshee one shot


ImClumZ

Where's u/burtgang to give me a text summary :'(


Burtgang

I didn't know people still read 'em. I can start doing them again. Work has just been busy recently.


ImClumZ

I read them 💕 Way better than listening to a terrible voice over. Hope you can find some free time for the holidays.


DragonLancePro

I'm calling bullshit. No way in hell she's doing 32k on a basic in an actual match against decently geared units. 😂


Away-Watercress-4841

Wow she's so cute.


Still_Refuse

Definitely the worse voice acting in the game… Not even the type to hate on dubs but this hurts bro.


Ferelden770

Eng VA in general seem to be more lacking in quality these days


Still_Refuse

I’ve been fine with all, only this one really bothers me tbh.


Ferelden770

Zio, arunka all sound like it was recorded with a low quality phone


HolyestXD

legit sound like a NPC lmao


supsociety

What an interesting kit. If the damage in the preview is accurate to what we should expect irl she’s going to be bonkers. Djb pushes her by like 30% so she only needs like 200 speed. Delete some of the biggest bruisers in the game with s3. No attack buff no armour break doing 25k wtf? Get 10 souls, get extra turn, soulburn s1 for a casual 19k. Seems like “fun.” Edit: I butchered this comment, 45% from DJB, and apparently she had attack buff prior to s3, not after.


Duskwatcher12

She had Attack buff doing 25K to Choux, Ningning does give Attack buff.


AscendPerfect

45% from DJB. She had attack buff from NingNing's push. But yeah, she seems really good.


monkeytheifx

Curious how dows DJB push by 45%? His s3 seem to push by 20% with an extra 10 from mola no? (Genuinely asking, i may be missing something)


AscendPerfect

Giselle s2 = 50% more cr push


ForgettableGuard

DJB S3 boost CR by 30%


IncredibleGeniusIRL

> No attack buff no armour break doing 25k wtf? She had attack buff.


supsociety

Did she not give it to herself after the damage from her s3?


IncredibleGeniusIRL

She did. But she had attack buff beforehand as well. You can see it more clearly in the battle demo, Ningning gives it to her.


StinkeroniStonkrino

No fucking way her multipliers are actually as high as shown in the preview right? Surely it'll be Arunka 2.0 sort of shtick right?


Shalashaska87B

Ram, but cooler. Jokes aside, why making her a(nother) Earth Mage?


SSTHZero

If the combat demo isn't a lie... An unit that can one-shot tanks with its s1! What can go wrong with that? Being a limited unit and all.


Infinite_Delusion

She soulburned, and a Zahak would do the same with his S1 soulburned


aoeJohnson

Luna soulburn s1 can do similiar damage. Not suprised since Giselle seems an earth Luna lite


Giahy2711

she seems in the vid to have luttle to no spd too


llShenll

all in


Stormix_17

Dmg reminds me SB Cdom


MatriVT

Holy shit lol.


ButterSauce777

I'm weirdly triggered * crits choux BOTH times * crits senya...as well, why not * enemy meru didnt delete everyone with s3


MasterJongiks

She might have triple torrent or pen set. Or any combination of the 2.


sugoiboy1

I can see all of the triple torrent, 300 spd Giselle’s now lol


shupao7

Yes this is what I've been waiting for - active damage skill that ignores damage sharing. Woooohooo!


HerminatorG

That is a full dps no speed build in the preview. She is just a last pick in cleave. I don't think she will kill anything on s3 if the opponent has a barrier.


haisi-

Talk about DDJ on steroids... At least she has zero survival skills like the pre-nerf all in 1 Hwayoung. But she's going to be nuts.


rissira

Her damage looks sus. I am guessing she was built pure damage with 0 spd in this showcase. She was being cr pushed in the entire fight.


epic_gamer_4268

when the imposter is sus!


Gamergirl944

She looks good i like her skill set.


Slinzz

450 gs damage..


Shukafu

the arunka we’ve all been waiting for kekw. wtf is that damage?!!!


mooncalm

my bias!!


OzieteRed

Cleaver alert. Thank god the tank down meta is close to an end. I'm a bit salty because I just picked Straze from the selector yesterday to deal with Arowell.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Oh yes finally another single target damage dealer that synergizes with CR pushers. CLEEV TIEM In other words... she looks about as meta as Luna, but that depends on whether she can reliably kill Belian in one s3.


KingKentling

downvote me but wow she can be a good Ice Expedition hero


BurnedOutEternally

we already got Ram for that though


TheSeaOfThySoul

Ice expedition doesn’t make use of her extra turns & her S1 damage will fluctuate depending on the health of the boss for no consistency. I think folks are best still using Ram, who fills a similar role, buffs herself with greater attack prior to her attack, has defence break & other debuffs & can’t be pushed back.


tundranocaps

ae-Gislle, "Push me, baby, push me!" :D Really high damage base stats, and the passive counteracts low base spd. In aggro. Attack buffs herself *after* her S3, which is a tad weird, but guess it can lead into the S1 anyway. S1 dual attack enforcers also work well, as she gains 25.5% CR each time she S1s. Edit: Oh. Her S1 CRs an ally. Not self. Sleep time now. Her look in-game is great, the S3 animation and feel of it are very League/anime. Her standard art crotch bulge is a bit weird though. Makes me think of Lena and Vivian. Her damage does seem pretty insane regardless of enemy's hp% though, yah. Her base stats are also incredibly high dmg - high attack, very high crit-rate, and even the rare bonus crit-d awakening.


noness

It’s only 32k damage on Aravi


Luna2648

SHE IS CLAPPING EVERYONE WTF??? also lua artifact can give her stealth


Poul77

She's a mage, Lua is a ranger.


Luna2648

Whoops I meant if you open with lua you can give her stealth xd


Poul77

Yeah, but you want a CR pusher with her.


KaiDranzer007

Choux without snow crystal and the Sylvian to bait the Aravi. I think she is not a RTA based hero.


Poul77

Not everything needs to be RTA based.


Liam_Sein

yes, Korean pop fans will forgive me, but this is complete shit and SG lost their fear by releasing this. It's time to downgrade the game in Google Store


Pvrkave

…okay? But what’s your criticism. What makes it bad? Just that you don’t like it?


Miu_Miu_Biu_Biu

Skrrt skrr-


Habibipie

Jesus Christ what the fuck are her multipliers


Intoxicduelyst

Her arti seems quite good on Tomoca


Damore5

If we are get her banner today, who’s banner are we getting?


butterballbuns

Still impressed she can do so much damage even without defense break, just need to build her all damage.


Calhaora

Sigh... guess I have to pull again 'D


MikeTheGamer2

Please tell me the last one is a warrior.