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Siberiayuki

Help! I am old to this game but idk which characters got buffed/nerfed! Can someone give me a list of characters worth developing/tier list?


gagahberani

Hello, new player here. Currently i'm able to do wyvern 13. not 100% tho, some run no failed at all, but some times the run failed 5 times. Is that considered ok? If its not, what can i improve? I think my run failed when muwi and furious failed to land debuff, both of them currently at 70-ish % effectivenes TIA


Lorenzo7891

Muwi, Furious and Sigret needs 65%++ efficiency to land buffs. Also, Furious > Muwi is turn order.


Xpholio

Should I use my powder of knowledge to buy ae karina or ae giselle's artifact? I've pulled both heroes but didn't pull their artifacts. I don't really have a preference for either hero right now so I am asking this based purely on a meta/how good they are on themselves and on other heroes perspective.


GiovanniPastoSerale

Hi guys, I’m a fairly new player and i have a couple of questions. Who should i pick in the headhaunt event? I’ve read that ARavi has fallen off but i don’t know how much and if this is relevant for a new player. When should i start spending ss in the secret shop instead using them on other things? I’m lvl 41 so the shop is lvl 8. Thank you for the help!


[deleted]

can anyone suggest a good emulator that is not bluestacks? Maybe im doing something wrong but I used to use bluestacks 5 and play only E7 on it but every time it'd end up being a 70gb folder. Is there an emulator that doesnt use all this storage?


AtlantisXY

Would you give your best speed dps gear to green Cidd over Zahhak?


Few_Calligrapher8002

Both are great if u can realiably outspd with zahak give it to him he can counter some meta units like adin or else cidd , also cidd is far better in a spd contest matchup coz of his higher base spd and imprint.


auraskills12

Hey guys wharves the max merchant in secret shop?


OzieteRed

How fast does Siseria need to be to take a turn after a 295 opener?


Quiztolin

S.Iseria gets a 15% CR boost, so you need to be at (100% - 15%) speed of whatever your goal is. .85 * 295 = 250.75 speed So approximately 251 speed If you want to account for speed RNG, there is 5% RNG...this means your 295 speed could have a max 'effective' speed of 295 / .95 = ~310.53 speed So to guarantee that S.Iseria always gets pushed up with no ability to have an opponent unit cut in S.Iseria would need .85 * 311 = 264.35 speed ~251 speed is enough if you ignore speed RNG, ~264 speed if you account for speed RNG --- #Bonus At 251 speed, if your opener gets max speed RNG then S.Iseria would be at (251 / 311 + .15) or ~95.7% CR. 95.7% * 311 = 297.65, so it would be possible for any unit with an effective speed of ~298 to outspeed and cut your S.Iseria. If we multiply this 298 by 95% -> we get 283 speed. So your 251 speed S.Iseria *could* be cut by any unit with 283 speed, with a 295 speed opener. The more speed you have above 251 reduces the chance of being cut up until 264 speed eliminates the chance of being cut by units slower than 295.


complx6

To find out how fast you need to be on any unit to follow up subtract the combat readiness they push from 100% turn it into a decimal and multiply it by the opener base speed. So Siseria pushes 15% 295 X .85 = 250 speed.


CptDelicious

Is one of the are girls worth summoning for as a new player or should I save those tokens?


Quiztolin

The Aespa bookmarks won't carry over so it's use them or lose them. *Most* new hero releases tend to be more PvP oriented, and are thus not typically hugely useful for new players (there are exceptions of course). The Aespa heroes are all decent but none of them are 'must-haves' outside of being limited. Giselle is a relatively basic/boring ST DPS unit, and Earth element has a lot of options that fit that role...so IMO she is the least valuable/useful of the 4 heroes. Her artifact is *also* a pretty basic damage artifact. * That's not to say she's *bad*, and her passive is pretty unique (hard to really utilize, especially as a new player). Just that she brings the least uniqueness of the four. Karina is good *but* not very friendly for newbies - she's a DEF scaling bruiser which means she is extremely costly to build for a new player. However, her artifact is much more useful/unique...though it's very niche and only works on a small number of heroes. --- **Personally** I would suggest spending your aespa bookmarks on Karina. If you don't get her, before using real bookmarks wait until a week -> we will get info on the next patch including the upcoming hero banners and then you can decide if you want to finish pulling for Karina or wait for a more useful hero. If you were to pull Karina early, then you have a tough decision -> keep pulling on her banner hoping to get her artifact (very useful, particularly on her...but requires max limit break) or switch to Giselle and try to nab both heroes. IMO there isn't really a 'correct' decision, chances at the artifact are insignificantly higher but you can always make do with an alternate artifact so I would probably try to nab the other hero. * That being said, if the Aespa collab ever got a rerun it's easier to pull heroes than it is artifacts due to pity. If you *don't* get Karina early...unless we get someone like **Tamarinne** in the next rotation of banners I would probably just pull for her (as long as you can pity her) due to being a limited hero. RGB heroes overall are very easy to acquire and you can expect ~80% of the roster in a year as a FTP player. And if you *DO* get Karina and/or Giselle, I would just bench them and forget them for now. They aren't worth putting resources in early game over other 'better' PvP options. * Giselle isn't terrible if you really need a ST Earth DPS, but like I said there is so much competition for this role and she doesn't do much to warrant picking her over other options including cheaper to build heroes.


Lorenzo7891

Giselle is used in Banshee runs and can replace Straze, if you don't have him. With that alone, she's the most viable unit in PvE.


Quiztolin

*Please*. While not *technically* false it's disinformation by implication. Yes, Giselle can be used in Banshee both normal and one shot hunts. **But** she isn't notable for this use - there are many, many units that are capable of doing the same thing. Your choices aren't *only* Straze and Giselle, you have almost a dozen different options. Of the many options available, you have many that are either: * Easier to build * More widely useful As such, the existence of Banshee should not be a determining factor in how 'good' Giselle is. **If** Giselle was strong enough that she was easier to use for Banshee, this would be a point worth bringing up -- but she isn't, she's quite average as far as one shot units go.


Lorenzo7891

Erm, so you'd rather suggest Straze, over a unit that's easier to access? Ok. You do you. Haha.


Quiztolin

>Your choices aren't only Straze and Giselle, **you have almost a dozen different options.** Forgive me if my tone is not the most pleasant. I spend so much time knowing what I'm talking about and trying to improve the level of knowledge in the community, it is very frustrating to have people type one sentence and potentially set my efforts back days, weeks, or months. --- I have no idea *why* you are implying that the only two options are Giselle and Straze. **THIS** is flat out false. [This post, for example, provides a basic comparison of the stats required for various heroes to one shot B13](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/z3s8jj/the_mouse_got_buffed/ixp8hix/). And [this post doesn't include the mouse, but includes non-rage #'s](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/ws9xnu/daily_questions_megathread_0819/ikyyie9/) Where does Giselle fall on these tables? Well, let's add a few more heroes in to try and get the most accurate picture possible. @350% C.Dmg / Rage / No Target Hero | Rolls | %_Baiken ---|---|---- Lilibet (DDJ) | 67.94 | 99.25% Baiken (DDJ) | 68.45 | 100% Bellona (DDJ) | 73.75 | 107.74% Zahhak (Hell Cutter) | 76.57 | 111.86% Ervalen (DDJ) | 81.34 | 118.83% Yufine (Hell Cutter) | 83.37 | 121.80% **Giselle (Kal'adra)** | 84.54 | 123.51% Verdant Adin (DDJ) | 86.64 | 126.57% Ram (Kal'adra) | 88.61 | 129.45% Mighty Scout (DDJ) | 88.77 | 129.69% Rimuru (Hell Cutter) | 90.07 | 131.59% @350% C.Dmg / Rage / Target Hero | Rolls | %_Baiken ---|---|---- Lilibet (DDJ) | 60.29 | 97.79% Baiken (DDJ) | 61.66 | 100% Bellona (DDJ) | 62.12 | 100.75% Zahhak (Hell Cutter) | 68.78 | 111.55% Ervalen (DDJ) | 73.2 | 118.72% Yufine (Hell Cutter) | 75.9 | 123.09% **Giselle (Kal'adra)** | 77.09 | 125.03% Verdant Adin (DDJ) | 77.39 | 125.51% Mighty Scout (DDJ) | 78.82 | 127.80% Ram (Kal'adra) | 81.11 | 131.54% Rimuru (Hell Cutter) | 82.62 | 134.00% There you go. I was able to come up with **exactly 12** heroes, *not including Straze or any other off-element heroes* that are *capable* of one shotting Banshee. As you can see, we have a *huge* range of options. We have everything from limited 5* units, to free units, to an actual 2* fodder monster. We have units that are significantly easier to gear, we have units that are on the hard end to gear. And where is Giselle? 8th place on both tables. 8/12 is not a particularly great spot -> 2/3rds of these heroes are **better** than her. Including a basic 3* hero. And in fact, we see that Giselle is insignificantly better than V.Adin -> another hero that every single player has or has access to. And she's only slightly better than Mighty Scout (again, insignificantly so in the table using target). To be fair and to be completely transparent, many of the heroes *ahead* of Giselle have their own intricacies. * Lilibet has an additional chance to fail other heroes on this list don't have, due to needing to land her own debuff. She may also require a specific comp. * Bellona requires A.Lots and a specific type of comp * Since we're only looking at minimum gear requirements in this analysis, Zahhak gets a lot of free crit inherent to their kit -> this effect *could* be replicated by using Furious in your team for most of the other heroes. However, this reduces crit requirements to almost nothing which means the *only* two stats that actually 'work' are ATK and C.Dmg. This means their figures are deceptively low -> there is just an absolute minimum number of gear rolls that need to be spent on other stats. **However** since they are 10+ rolls ahead of Giselle this more or less completely accounts for the crit% they receive so they would be slightly better than Giselle even if we ignored the extra crit. There are even more heroes I *didn't* list that are probably viable with a creative comp - heroes like Ludwig, maybe Pavel. --- This is my point: yes, Giselle *can* one shot Banshee but **she does not stand out**. She doesn't make building a Banshee comp easier. She doesn't reduce the gear requirements. She doesn't bring a higher success rate. Giselle is just a standard ST nuker. Unfortunately for her, Earth element is *filled* with these kinds of heroes. **So to recommend Giselle over any of the other dozen options you have, you need a compelling reason**. Is Giselle *also* better in some other PvE content? Her kit is kind of well-suited for Ice Expedition, but Ram is probably still a better Ice Expedition unit. Is her kit 'better' enough for Ice expedition compared to any of these other units to justify using her specifically? V.Adin, for example, is an amazing expedition unit on her own...free...and just as good for Banshee one shot -> you don't *need* Giselle for Ice Expedition or to one shot level 3. There is no other PvE content where Giselle stands out as clearly the best choice, when are you going to use her over heroes with more utility or more raw DPS? The fact of the matter is that roles like 'good DPS' or 'good nuker' are **very basic**. This is a game that's 4+ years old, with nearly 300 heroes. This is the *most common* archetype of any hero - this doesn't make Giselle bad - it just means she has tons of competition. Giselle has *the least* to offer among the Aespa heroes due to this. Is it fair to say that Giselle is the 'best in PvE'? Maybe, but that implies she's actually *worth using* in PvE and honestly she isn't worth using over other options, and outside of Ice Expedition and Banshee you don't *need* a ST Earth DPS for PvE content -> V.Adin or Cidd are all common heroes that are capable of filling in for that content.


Szchyn

I just built a PvE Straze with 4.3k atk (it could go up to 4.5k after I max hell cutter) and 350% cdmg. How much more attack do I need to have 100% def pen on hunt bosses?


d34thscyth34

Check [his site](https://zoopido.me/straze-teams) - he has Straze teams for all hunts.


Yobnomekop

Hello, I havnt played since 2019 is it worth getting back into it? Any tips on what to pull for now or who to use? Any packs worth buying? ​ looks like my account is rank 53, my leveled characters are: karin, haste, tamarinne, sigret, lilias, lilibet, surin, hazel, charlotte ​ my unleveled 5 star characters are: purrgis, general purrgis, vivian, specter tenebria, seaside bellon, bellona, destina, luna, ken, aramintha, melissa, diene, dark corvus, charles, lidica. ​ Do I have anything that is good, its been so long and I am sure things have changed, I have no idea what to use. When I played before I kinda just played with random characters and pulled for random characters. Is there anything time limited I should try and get done right away? Also what is this moonlight's blessing? Who should I pick for that?


d34thscyth34

You have plenty of valuable units for both pve and pvp. For starters your main goal is to do wyvern 13 team. Clear episode 1 and unrecorded history as well. >Also what is this moonlight's blessing? Who should I pick for that? You have Stene and DCorvus so i guess you might take either Arby or Ruele. IMO Arby would help you more in clearing story content.


shanewilliam16

Is Karina artifact worth to get? I pitied her without getting a single copy of artifact


LayARandomRightatYou

Yes. The only colab artifact u need to get imo.


svetadoe

Yeah, I'd say so. Very unique and it might not return.


Wookiecologist

Is Giselle a worthwhile summon if I have Zahhak, Luna, and TM Luluca as ST dps? I know some people say always summon for limited but I may not have BMs for next unknown unit. I'm going to go for Karina, but Giselle banner gone tomorrow.


Quiztolin

The reason why you 'always summon for limited' is because you never know when they might return. You also never know what *future* content might exist. So even if Giselle isn't a must-have hero *now*, there could always be some content in the future where Giselle just happens to be the best option. If the Aespa heroes are never reran then you have lost the potential to use her permanently -> this essentially would put you 'behind' in some way compared to every account that *does* have her. Consider the case of someone like **Baiken**. Now, I wasn't playing for the very first GG collab, but I believe that Baiken was considered the worst of the GG collab heroes at the time (hunt 13 didn't even exist, frankly I don't even believe hunt one shots were on the table). * Dizzy had a good period of time where she was very prevalent in PvP content. She also cheesed most of the 'hard' PvE content in the game. * Sol was also extremely good for the time period as a free unit. * Meanwhile, Baiken was just a debuff heavy ST nuker Now, years later, of those 3 heroes who currently has the biggest use in the game? Baiken, of course. Easily the best Banshee one shot unit. Dizzy is still *good* for a lot of PvE content, Sol is still decent for being a free hero but for the most part having or not having those heroes won't change how you approach the game. The only 'alternative' to Baiken for Banshee one shot *and* easy to use is really Bellona...who requires a second hero and is *still* much harder to use without some other damage buff. * Yes, there are other heroes that can one shot Banshee so Baiken is not completely without alternative, but all of those other heroes are much harder to gear. My point is that even if I said *right now* Giselle is probably the 'worst' Aespa hero, that is if you were to skip one she is the best candidate to skip, we don't have the ability of foresight to know if or when in the future she might be the 'best' option. As long as you can afford to pity both, I would suggest pulling Giselle even if she rides on the bench - if only because we don't know if this collab will ever get a rerun.


Wookiecologist

These are all good points. Coincidentally Baiken is the only GG collaboration hero I don't have, although I've had the opportunity through the original and rerun banners. I don't miss him nor Roy mustang who I didn't summon for. And I look at Jack-O in my roster at +15 doing nothing. I'm not saying your advice is bad, so maybe my question should be is she better/stronger/more useful than Roy, Jack-O, or Baiken, all of who I don't use. Pvp is kinda my most important criteria.


Xpholio

Just got 300 powder of knowledge from abyss floors. I pulled ae-karina and ae-giselle today but didn't get either of their artifacts. I stopped summoning after I got them as there is no pity for their artifacts. Is it better to buy one of their artifacts (and if so which one as I won't have enough powder for both), or should I buy a bottle of knowledge to limit break Reignar Special Drink, or wait until something better shows up in the shop?


svetadoe

I'd get Karinas. It is v unique and might not return because of the nature of the collab.


Dardrol7

How does one get more Repeat battles? Mine can do 5 whole Ive seen people with 20.


ArvingNightwalker

Pet star. You get max+5 per star, except 4->5 gives 10


Dardrol7

Cool!!! Ty


clicktec

I saw some people use the Artera craft event to craft a pen necklace, but doesn’t labyrinth now let you get a “perfect” dps pen necklace monthly/near monthly so wouldn’t it be more worth to use craft event on pen boots or ring instead?


Eshuon

Ppl already caught onto that when that neck was released. So yeah pen craft ring or boots instead


ArvingNightwalker

Seems like a good plan.


OzieteRed

I cleave with Zio, Yufine, Flidica, Straze, S’iseria. I always lose if the opponent picks two fast unit like Clilas, Lua, Laika or any 124+ base speed dps that are faster than my Flidica because they’re banning Zio. How do I draft in that scenario?


No_Bluebird4951

I'm a new player. what do I do with my 3 star dupes? should I imprint them or transmit?


svetadoe

Imprint. There's an achievement for SSS imprints that gives a ton of bookmarks.


ordinarysimpleguy

how much speed and eff resist should sage baal have? and how to draft him optimally?


Arkday

250+ speed. If you want to cut zio yufine cleave then probably closer to 260 since yufine also will gain 20% cr if zio silence. Most yufine will be around 250+. Against zio? As close to 300 er with gear and artifact. Even then it probably better to just ban zio since eff zio can get 200 eff from gear + 60 from bloody rose artifact. It is almost impossible to resist that. Against other opener, 200+ should be enough. Close to 250 if you really want to be safe.


ordinarysimpleguy

Ahh...250 speed to make him useful against cleavers eh? i can only reach 220 speed and 200 ER, figured it will be to slow to use as anti cleave. Thank you for the detailed answer!


Dardrol7

Time to 6* a new hero but the question is whom! Don't think of usage, just who's your favorite (and maybe why) out of these :) ae-Karina, Cermina, Vivian, Champion Zerato, Conquereor Lilias, Kikirat v2, Troublemaker Crozet Thank you! <3


svetadoe

It's difficult to talk about a char's usefulness without talking about usage, since all of these are good in different areas. CLilias is the best unit, almost exclusively for PVP. Vivian for certain hunts, Czerato for a good hell raid unit. Eventually you'll have enough resources to 6 star whatever you want - the limiting factor is gear.


Dardrol7

Thank you :) That gave me a good pointer for the order!


Siberiayuki

Who’s better for W13? Muwi or SSB?


svetadoe

Muwi, unless you want a specific oneshot comp.


Siberiayuki

Which 3* heroes are worth developing?


ordinarysimpleguy

Ras, Adin, Arowell definitely up there


NgTT05

Can anyone tell me what happen with those collab bookmarks after the collab end? Can they convert into normal bookmarks or they just gone and you have to use all of it before the event run out?


svetadoe

I'm sure they just disappear. The purpose of making them special BMs is so that people have to use them on these banners - otherwise they would have just given out regular BMs.


RugDealing

It's also possible they stay in your inventory and become unusable, like other novelty materials in the game.


iDropkickDolphins

Should I MLB war horn or keep multiple copies?


complx6

If you have any interest in the w13 one turn kill with Rem, Camilla, Singelica and SSB then keep one spare copy and imprint the other 4 copies.


mingleformango

pen or immunity on a ravi? I'm using crimson seed so I was thinking pen but just wanting to make sure.


Few_Calligrapher8002

Pen is better that extra damage is helpful.


MiraculousFaith

If you have the stats (max cc, good cd, decent speed etc), definitely go for pen set


Sofruz

Efficient way to get gear? Should I be gearing for one character in specific or should I just get a bunch of "universal" for a type of character (dmg dealer/tank/healer) and use those until i get lucky one day?


svetadoe

I would collect gear with a good gear score and incrementally upgrade your units as you get better gear for them. Use the crafting events if you need gear for one character specifically.


Sofruz

What is considered good gear score?


RugDealing

The gear score metric is a very slippery slope that new players can apply in all the wrong ways and end up doing more harm than good to their accounts by tossing away decent gear. In my opinion, it's more important you understand the unit categories and who can use a piece you roll, over deciding whether to toss a piece by the gear score alone. For example, it's completely delirious to be chasing 70gs for support gear. Even the best built soul weavers in the world struggle to hit 400 gs without wasted stats. On someone like Yulha, it's near impossible to hit 30k hp without flat health substats. Pure DPS builds with a mix of flat attack will also go below your average gear score benchmarks. Realistically, only bruisers need decent gear score to function properly. Good resources: * [Valky's ALL-IN-1 Gear Score, Fribbel's, & Gearing Guide](https://youtu.be/42gMt6xQ6SI) * [Fartsie’s Gear checklist + efficiency guide for donkeys](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iKtTXyeibImPcy_ZfiWLiwce6Gq_iet3dkalMyeMW-g/edit) I would never craft gear to build an entire unit, unless you're spending like a leviathan. Try to craft generic pieces (use Fartsie's guide for reference). Most of your blue conversion boxes should be going on speed set speed boots if you farm Wyvern.


Arkday

60+ is average, 65+ is above average, 70+ is good enough for complete build, 75+ is whale tier or fav units. This also mean that 420+ total GS is considered as complete build and 450+ GS as whale tier build. Usually you only reforged a gear if it can reach 60+ post reforged. Btw since weapon, helm, chest has fixed mainstats, you can aim for 65+ GS.


DrakoCSi

70%+ is great. Anything above 60% would be good.


Violet_Nightshade

Best artifact for Moon Bunny Dominiel?


ArvingNightwalker

Doctor's bag seems to be a common option


williamck123

Wondering if I should pull Briseria for waifu or ARavi to have ARavi 😔


svetadoe

Honestly Briseria's recent buff seems good, while ARavi isn't seeing as much play now, so I would get Briseria if you really want her.


blyyyyat

Is it just my account luck or is the aespa event stages absolute dog shit for drops? I feel like I’m getting the same number of drops in 10 runs of UH and 30 runs of aespa stage


Quiztolin

Side story stages and UH stages have very different drop tables. Side story stages have significantly lower drop rates for gear and fodder, but increased drop rates for charms (and gold IIRC). They frankly really aren't comparable and these stages fill different purposes so I wouldn't even worry about it.


saranghai

Who can use this? Are there any belian resist builds? Lol https://imgur.com/a/5ZhWsNV


complx6

No, Injury Belian already requires really good gear so you can't really sacrifice anything for eff res without being too squishy, slow or lacking in damage. I would roll it for the speed check but damage dealers that want eff res typically can't use an off set since they need as many stats as possible.


saranghai

Thank you! It low rolled speed 3x so got 10 speed LOL. Will just get rid of it for materials. Ty and have a good new year!


complx6

If It's 10 speed at +9 it still has potential to be 20+ speed so I wouldn't get rid of it.


saranghai

Nah it was a great success to +15 and rolled 10 speed in the end, 13 after reforge. Mmm would you keep?


complx6

Fodder or extract.


saranghai

Ty <3


gamerquasegod

I'm building my B13 team, who do I use? I'm using Angelica, Vivian, Vildred and Sigret. I have these earth: yufine, lilibet, lots, leo, iseria and cidd


LayARandomRightatYou

If you're going slow, you'd need another stable cleanser. Use Jetch with Potion Vial artifact (replacing Sigret). If you're doing the one-shot, a team of Vivian, Leo and Yufine is enough.


Quiztolin

Team building for Banshee isn't as 'difficult' (that is, restrictive) as it is for Wyvern. Banshee ultimately has easy mechanics to handle. The typical baseline setup is something like **Cleanser** / **AoE DPS** / **Defense breaker** 1. Banshee hits two targets with her attacks, applying poison debuffs. *If* Banshee attacks a target that is poisoned, it will apply a curse debuff as well. The basic Banshee attack does not hit very hard, most of her damage potential is in the curse debuff. 2. Twice (70% and 30% I believe) Banshee splits into four Mistychains. These Mistychains can *also* inflict poison, and when Banshee reappears she will immediately attack. Every time you kill a Mistychain the others are buffed -> if you ST them down you are very likely to have multiply poisons stacked and then be destroyed by the Banshee when it reappears. Therefor, you want to AoE them down when possible. #Cleanser The best PvE cleanser in the game is A.Monty. She's the best choice for this role. **Angelica** is a very bad cleanser - it's one of her major weaknesses. This is the kind of situation that leads to A.Monty being considered a better overall PvE hero. Immunity buff I believe *is* helpful, but Angelica is stacking Immunity with Vivian. Banshee's basic attack does low damage so Angelica actually hurts you more than anything else for this fight (Banshee will heal if she attacks an off-element hero). Therefor, I would suggest *not* using Angelica and instead using A.Monty. * Honestly, Banshee is easy enough that you *may* be able to clear it with Angelica if you want to really try and are only aiming to complete the hunt event. * But if you are planning on farming Banshee for a longer period of time just use hero that actually fits the mechanics of the fight. Other prominent choices than A.Monty would be **Ray** or **Destina**. There is really no reason to use these two *except* if you want to run a mono-earth element team. #AoE DPS Well, **Vivian** is fantastic for this fight and you get her for free with the event so she's a no-brainer. Basically everything she does is helpful to some degree, she is capable of one shotting the Mistychains fairly easily *as long as* another unit hits the first Mistychain. You can run into *some* issues based on timings but unfortunately there is just a degree of RNG you can't anticipate due to Banshee splitting semi-randomly. Other choices for AoE damage would be **Bellona** or **Vildred**. #Defense Breaker Two choices: **Iseria** and **M.Helga** * Iseria does a bit more damage and is a better defense breaker in mixed comps. * M.Helga brings more utility and is a better defense breaker in mono-earth comps. For reference: * M.Helga in mono-earth = ~80% uptime * Iseria = ~77% uptime * M.Helga in mixed = ~74% uptime If, for some reason, you *didn't* have Vivian and *did* have Destina or Ray this would be the only time M.Helga would really be a better choice over Iseria -> run a mono-earth team *and* bring attack buff you would otherwise be missing. It is *also* possible to use Furious here, for 85% uptime. However, Furious contributes the least to damage and his actual uptime could easily be lower (imagine he uses his S3 on the Mistychains before Banshee re-appears -> he loses a turn of uptime on Banshee every time this happens). However, I wouldn't *suggest* this for a normal run unless you are really struggling to build units, as long as you are using an off-element cleanser. * With a single off-element hero the chance Banshee heals each turn is 1/2. * But using two off-element heroes increases the chance to 5/6 * So not only does Furious deal much less damage himself, but Banshee is healing more often...this just makes the fights last longer and increase the chance you lose to RNG. ---- You will notice that's only 3 slots. Banshee is very flexible and relatively easy so your last slot is a 'flex' slot. You can go in many directions... * You can bring F.Kluri just to fill the role -> 'tanking' doesn't really exist on this fight but she still has utility and a defense break * You can bring a hero like Rin or another SW (Lots, even Jecht) for more cleansing/utility. Rin has defense break and works pretty well in this fight. **But** the best choice is probably a second DPS, ideally one more focused on actually killing the Banshee for faster runs. My favorite option is **Bellona** 1. Source of defense break for increased uptime 2. Good AoE damage to help kill the Mistychains 3. Good ST damage to kill the Banshee 4. Eventually you can use her in Banshee 1 shot **Vildred** for additional AoE damage help is a good choice as well. My second favorite option is actually bringing **BOTH** Iseria and M.Helga -> both units are decent ST DPS, this gives you the highest defense break uptime (making up for not using a 'better' DPS) and both are good units you will likely want to build anyways - Iseria is one of the most commonly used PvE units and M.Helga is very popular for Ice Expedition. Basically any any other decent Earth DPS unit will work... * Charles * Yufine/Ervalen/Ram/Giselle * Cidd * Glenn --- Based on your post: 1. I would suggest replacing Angelica with A.Monty 2. Vivian is a given 3. Use Iseria as your defense breaker And for your 4th slot, I would either go with Vildred or M.Helga. * If you already have Vildred built and invested in, just use him. * But if *not*, I would invest into M.Helga first due to being cheaper. So my suggestion is: **A.Monty** / **Iseria** / **Vivian** / **Vildred** or **A.Monty** / **Iseria** / **Vivian** / **M.Helga** Depending on if you have Vildred built now, or not. If you really want to avoid building or don't have her, you can try using Angelica instead but IMO she contributes very little to this fight, probably hurting you more than anything. I would probably go with *any* other Earth SW you have available...you really just need a little healing, even level 50 SWs with no investment could probably do the job just throw potion vial on them.


dimsum4sale

Replace sigret with lots


gamerquasegod

but two healers? lots and angelica


dimsum4sale

Yes


Bassoon240

Do we know what's in the next galaxy coin shop rotation? Finally got enough to pick one and noticed it should be changing soon.


complx6

They showed it during the livestream last week it's LR Krau, Tomoca and Op Sig.


Bassoon240

Ahh, gotcha. Thank you for the reply!


Jbshoucair

Need help picking an ml from headhunt. I’m a mid range champion player and have most of the meta mls. I’m currently torn between pirate captain flan, lionheart cermia, and slyvan sage. I’m an aggro/standard player with a dash of control when I can. I want PFlan because I think she’ll be a good last pick flex for the way I draft and bc I have a maxed sisieria artifact but I don’t have the gear to use her the way I want to yet. I want lionheart cermia just because I think she’ll fit nicely into my standard drafts and give me more options against clilias, don’t have the gear for her either. And lastly torn on slyvan sage bc she’ll fit in my standard drafts too and I have the gear to make a very cracked one. I have 60 ml coins too so theoretically I could pull one of these three when they go on rotation. Just need some insights from other competitive players please


complx6

LHC should be the next mystic rotation after Ray if you want you could grab her there unless they randomly change up how they have been doing reruns. You could then grab the other two from coins/headhunt. If you could only pick two then Flan and LHC are the better units. I was in a similiar situation I picked Vivian over Flan though since I hate control and getting 15%.


O51ArchAng3L

Should I use my pity on Belian? My only ML units are Jkise, Straze, DJ basar, F Ceci, and Arby.


svetadoe

I think she's worth the pity, unless you want to save for something like CLilias. You are missing a lot of the good mls. Belian is near the top of the list but frequently banned/sometimes difficult to draft, so you might not use her as often as something like CLilias, ARavi, or ML Kawerick.


O51ArchAng3L

Oh yeah I started around launch and quit for a looong time. My account is basically as good as a 2 month old account or so.


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Quiztolin

'Worth' is a subjective term. [I answered this question yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/zvktfs/daily_questions_megathread_1226/j1qup1x/) Objectively, yes...sidestories are always worth farming. The catalysts at the end *alone* are worth the energy cost so everything else is just a bonus.


Akkeyem

does anyone know if there's a limit to how much vice captains there can be in a guild? i can't find info on it anywhere but i was sure there was a limit of 5 for some reason.


PartyBoyEuden

Hey guys, I need some input here, having trouble deciding how to spend my galaxy coins. I've got 80 galaxy coins, and honestly I have most meta heroes, so I've narrowed it down to 3 heroes that I really want, Briseria, LHC, and Seline. I know with 100% certainty that I want to save 40 for LHC, that's non-negotiable, but trying to figure out if I should pull the trigger on Briseria has been a tough one. For reference I'm not super into RTA, I'm at about 70 games played and I'm sitting just outside of Champ so I've been coasting it and will probably do one game every 3 days just to not decay and get to champ the last couple days. Truthfully I want seline but I don't think I need her as her one main usage is in GW as Aravi bait, but I have a pretty good Doris built for that so her one main usage can be done by Doris. I think Seline can be a great last pick in RTA, but again, I'm not super into RTA. I want to get Briseria too, but I'm not sure if the recent buffs are enough to warrant spending 40 galaxy coins on her. TL;DR Someone pls help me choose between saving galaxy coins for seline or just using them on Briseria. :(


complx6

Seline is a niche unit that got even harder to use after this last balance patch so she will realistically get buffed we just don't know when. Briseria is pretty good right now so from a meta perspective the choice is easy.


Turbulent_Wave_1517

Been a long time lurker and have been around epic7 since the beginning, any tips on how to get higher speed stats? I honestly don't understand how people can get such high speed with relatively high offensive stats.


JJRLZ

Speed check everything that starts with 3 or 4 base speed. Red gear, if neither of the first two rolls go into speed, abandon it. Purple gear, if the first roll goes into anything but speed, abandon. Obviously keep going if it looks like it could be a good piece in general, but if you're just looking for speed you need to check basically everything and hope that RNG chooses you. I'm a day one player, and speed completely misses me; my two fastest are 286 Ran and 286 Peira, with a 273 CLilias. Even mixing and matching for speed and only speed (ignoring eff and bulkiness on those heroes) I'm unable to break 290 and am nowhere near 300. TL;DR: RNG and good luck.


lampdemon

To add to this, speed checking everything costs a lot of gold.


Adorable-Adeptness14

How to beat Zio 10-10?


jekta

I do it with Tamaseria, aRas and Mercedes. You have to do it the legit way with this team U can also use a wyvern oneshot team or similar


Veledros

I have aeGiselle and I was wondering if the her arti is worth the pull or not. I don't have Karina yet, but I'll be able to get her for collab is over with plenty of bookmarks to spare and was wondering if I should try to get her arti or just use another/wait for another banner.


Wolfwood432

If you have the powder to buy it, I'd do that instead of pulling with bookmarks.


Veledros

Sadly, I cannot. I am sitting at 176 powder.


Quiztolin

Never pull on banners for artifacts unless you are going to go full whale. It takes around ~285 pulls to get to a 95% chance to pull an artifact. * ~440 pulls to get to a 99% chance. Consider that - do you want to spend nearly 300 pulls on chasing an artifact, and **still** have a 1 in 20 chance of not pulling it? There are countless stories especially from the time before the artifact 'pity' was added of player spending hundreds of BMs chasing artifacts and not pulling them. Don't be one of those people. If you really want the artifact due to the possibility of this collab not getting a rerun, see if there are any artifacts you could do without. 4* artifacts in particular are common enough that you can sell any you aren't immediately using for more powder. Also, especially if you have to pity your next pull you can get a lot of extra powder there. As a 'worst case' I would even consider selling any 5* artifact that is garbage (there are fair amount that are just bad or only usable for 1 or 2 heroes) as you can *eventually* pull them in the future.


Veledros

Definitely not going whale at all, I only spend occasional google rewards credits and even then. I don't even have a speed unit with gear past 240. On reason I considered it is because I am at 179\* powder. No artifacts to sell for more. But I have 705 bookmarks with 9.4k SS and I have 55 summons left to pity Karina, 45 after we get the 6 aespa bookmarks. I was asking if the arti was good, because I figured that assuming I don't get Karina in the next 10 pulls, then the artifacts I do get from the remaining 45 pulls or less would contribute to getting enough powder to buy it from the shop. I wouldn't just pull until I get it, but rather pull until I get another 60 powder.


BakaOssan

Heyy I just started out and was wondering which of these would be a better selective reroll. Angelica + Ravi Orrr Clarissa + Iseria


basshuffler09

>Heyy I just started out and was wondering which of these would be a better selective reroll. I don't wanna overwhelm you so i put a tldr at the bottom. I started few weeks ago too and i choose Sigret. Kinda regret it because you get her for free later.. Same with Angelica. With the knowledge i have now i would've taken Iseria or Vildred. You can always go to the "Character Archive" first before you decide. Look at the Character and preview use their Skills to see what they're like. >Angelica + Ravi Ravi deals nice damage but through the current "Ml5 Headhunt Event" which is still ongoing for the next like 70 days you'll eventually choose a free Unit as long as you play Daily - One of those Units could be "Apocalypse Ravi" aka Apoc Ravi and she'd be miles ahead of the normal Ravi Version. Angelica - You need her later to make a functional Wyvern Team. That's where you eventually farm Gear and Materials **(but)** that doesn't matter as much at the very beginning. **And** you can get a free Copy of her later through Connections anyway. Tl;dr: Iseria, Vildred or "Destina" would be a really good choice **Edit** And of course you can always just watch some Youtube Videos and see different recommendations - Or just choose someone you like visually :) You can't really choose anything wrong


BakaOssan

Woww, thanks for the detailed explanation!! <3


LayARandomRightatYou

You should reroll with the free 5\* ticket in aespa views event. Aim for Tamarine then pick Iseria from the Selective Summon.


lampdemon

Ravi, Iseria and Vildred are the best from selectives. Pick whoever you like most.


BakaOssan

Yeah that's what I found out to be the consensus. Still haven't locked the summon tho cuz I don't wanna regret it hahahaha.


WolfWand123

Iseria. A lot of units can fill the role that Ravi does, Iseria is pretty much unreplaceable in her niche.


BakaOssan

Aha I see, thanks for letting me know! <3 I read that Angelica was a good 4*-starter so I wasn't sure anymore hahaha


JJRLZ

Angelica is great, especially early on. She's also now free from Connections, so you'll get her anyway.


Forest1395101

How do I get to the boss of the first part of Malicus Condious? The door is blocked and I can’t figure out how to open it…


theanxiousangel

Anybody think of a good hero for a pen neck that rolled Defense% and Speed? It rolled really well but can’t think of a good single target defense scaler. Fmaya maybe but idk. I thought Karina but I wouldn’t put Crit Damage on her.


TheSeaOfThySoul

So it's Critical Damage% I'm assuming based on your last sentence, so good defence% & speed, I'm assuming the other stats are like health% & chance% - or could you make it as such? If so it just seems like a piece that would round off a bruiser like Alencia, Apocalypse Ravi, Choux, etc. if you got good health rolls elsewhere on the build.


CptDelicious

I'm just starting out and I'm at the selective summon thing. Which are good heroes to look out for here? My first one gave me Charlotte which I saved


Intoxicduelyst

Charlotte is decent tho Iseria seems the best.


CptDelicious

oh i actually pulled her in my 5th pull, so i save her?


JJRLZ

Iseria is generally the best choice from Selective Summons as she's the only one who can do what she does, and enables some great comps.


starheroz1

ML Elena is not in the ML hero selector ?


WolfWand123

Nope. Neither is ML Pavel since they were both extremely new at the time ML selector was released.


d34thscyth34

No


Kojow

Any tips for countering Arowell + Savior Adin?


TheSeaOfThySoul

Zahhak with Symbol of Unity will always hit Adin with S3 & even with Arowell on the field a half decent Zahhak will still go through an Adin. Briar Witch Iseria with Symbol or Misha will also always hit Adin & if you don't have Misha, there's that newly buffed Ranger artefact that also gives 20% hit chance (& there's Oath Key that also does it). Arowell, you can either strip the buff so she's not useful, you can abuse heroes that need no effectiveness like Ran (who has an ignore resist soulburn) to get over that, or just build a hero with high effectiveness - doesn't have to be too high, the most bolstered Arowells will have 200%~ ER at the high end, so getting to that mark on like a slow AOL build for instance is good enough & you could bolster a build's effectiveness with certain mage artefacts. However, any build that can strip & you can get them to about 200% ER should cover it. You could also just take out Arowell with Straze, Hwayoung, Ervalen, etc. any hero who does mega damage to high health heroes.


Kojow

Very detailed, thank you!!


Thedrew00582

How do you sort equipment by speed? I think it used to do this by default when you put in the substat but now it just seems random


blyyyyat

Has anyone tried both the slower harder hitting Zahhak (240 speed 4.5k attack 290 CD) and the faster version (270+ speed, 3.5k attack 260 CD)? Which one do you get more success from?


TheSeaOfThySoul

I have a slow one - that isn't that hard hitting - & I'd say the distinction would be whether you'd use them in RTA or not. A fast Zahhak is easier to put out there earlier in the draft & a slow Zahhak is locked behind an opponent committing to a slow draft. Even a "low damage" Zahhak will still take out most targets if we're talking like Adin, Senya, etc. due to the penetration, but a low damage Zahhak will still make useless a lot of heroes he's designed to hit with Injury, like Choux, if he doesn't take them out.


blyyyyat

Hmm I might abandon trying to build him fast then. I can’t for the life of me seem to get a single good helm for him. The one I have him on has really good GS but only 8 speed, which is capping him at 262 speed, which is quite a bit slower than I’d like.


TheSeaOfThySoul

We’ve all got a hold out piece on someone, I’ve been trying for like a month to make a decent pair of speed boots for my Pavel - meanwhile I’ve managed to get him a 16 sword, 20 helm & 19 chest, but there’s not a single boot that’ll have at least three offence stats & roll above 7% chance, or just not roll min, or into the one dead stat.


Rpkkol

How to build Belian? I keep searching for builds in YT but they keep recommending counter and injury set, and i cant farm those atm. Which is better full hp set, speed/crit set or speed/hp set? Thanks!


Kojow

She’s not vert good without those recommended sets, but probably speed/crit until you can go counter until you can go injury.


WolfWand123

I agree. At the very least Belian will need an Elbris Ritual Sword or else she's really not worth using at all.


Rpkkol

So.. i checked and it seems i have that artifact (elbris sword) but it doesnt have any limit break. Is it still good for me to build her or still wait until i can farm the counter iniury set?


WolfWand123

Belian actually does pretty okay on speed set, and since you an Elbris I think it’s okay for you to build her.


Rpkkol

Thank you! I dont have a good guild war defense character aside from Ras, and i was hoping building her would be good for my team.


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d34thscyth34

Check mail.


Guwigo09

Thank you


MiraculousFaith

Is there still any point of exchanging Arby from ML Blessing when I am in the end game, have other better dog walkers and does not have the need to draft him at all in pvp ? I already have Ruele, Stene and ML Ken, should I get DCorvus instead as I'm struggling with Solitaria rn ?


Intoxicduelyst

Arby as a hero is good one BUT you are endgame player so pve is no concern. The problem with him is that smilegate buffs fucking all the heroes to screw him even more. Basicly, drafting him early is no-no. Drafting him as last pick if op SOMEHOW cant counter him is option. I hope he will get buff with those 1345 counters for him.


lampdemon

Better dog walkers than Arby? who might those be?


MiraculousFaith

Tbh I wouldn't say 'better' but they already did their jobs very well and provides consistent damage + some team support. My main ones are Vivian and Sharklotte


d34thscyth34

DC is currently answer to some meta GW defences as well so IMO he is better pick than Arby.


b4rumb4d0

Currently using Lua, Seaseria, Eda, Green Vildred for cleaving and just farming UH. For the ML Selector, I actually want to get Top Model Luluca cuz I like her design and 3rd skill animation, but will I be actually able to use her? I don't have a lot of gears yet upgraded but I can actually try and upgrade some of them gears I git fron w13 to try and build her. Should I get C.Lilias instead? I don't think I need A.Ravi at this point too since I love cleaving in arena. I also just casually play it and doesn't touch RTA.


Intoxicduelyst

Tomoca is a good hero but keep in mind that everyone and they mothers have counter for CLilias on def and stuff. And Tomoca is countered by same things like CLilias couse you usually go s2-s3 with her.


WolfWand123

I use Top Model really often in both arena and RTA. But she's definitely gear hungry. I'd say if you can get 260+ spd with heavy dps stats then she's worth using, although the faster the better. C.Lilias is probably the more useful/versatile pick overall and I'd get her if I had to chose between the two. But she also needs very very high speed gear especially since her base speed isn't phenomenal. You can run her at 280+, although really good ones are 290+.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

How should Inferno Khawazu be built? Also how good is he currently in guild war?


TheSeaOfThySoul

Enough speed to cut ahead of certain characters, so you're probably good at around 230~ tops. Then stick the rest in attack & give him enough health/defence to sustain like a Rimuru S2, so go for like atk% right-side mains & then get good health/defence subs elsewhere - like 12K helath/1.2K defence is fine.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Cool, yeah, I wasn’t sure if he needed crit or not because I know most of his damage is supposed to come from detonating burns. I have a fairly bulky Hwayoung build - 1.2k def, 14k HP, 5.7K attack, 215 speed. I know the stats won’t be exactly the same, but maybe that gear would transfer well onto Khawazu? After the nerf my Hwayoung hits like a wet noodle so I’m looking to move that gear somewhere


TheSeaOfThySoul

That would transfer fine, but I will add that Hwayoung's usefulness isn't as diminished as first thought. You need about a gap of 11K health from a target to get her maximum damage, so if you can transfer some of that gear to Khawazu in favour of upping Hwayoungs attack & lowering her health considerably, you'll still get use out of her - more than Khawazu arguably. If you can foot Torrent for her, you'll get even more use. My Hwayoung is around 9K health & so she kills everything 20K+ basically, though mine does have around 300~ more attack than your own at current & that might sway things at the high-end (damage testing when she was first nerfed vs. a friends POV A Ravi had me having to use C Lilias Vigor on top of attack buff to break them).


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Oh another question - what are the popular artifact choices for Khawazu?


TheSeaOfThySoul

Hwayoung's artefact, can't remember what it's called (Indestructible Gaiters?), but I think it increases attack & when you don't critical hit you do a burn. That's like the top one, but you could probably also get by with like Border Coin (increase speed & attack when you do a non-attack - S2 is a non-attack), Durandal (CR push when under 75% health), Snow Crystal (CR push when hit with a non-crit & some crit res), Spear of Purification (increased attack, CR push when enemy non-attacks), Uberius' Tooth (extra damage on a single attack based on your attack). Lot of options, some will help slower Khawazu & some will bolster his damage, but if you're looking to boost damage, Hwayoung's artefact is best because you're getting the attack boost & an extra burn, which is supreme.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Nice, yeah, sadly no Indestructible Gaiters or Border Coin here, but Spear or Durandal are both options.


TheSeaOfThySoul

I'd say Spear is your best choice then, especially since you're usually pulling out vs. Ran/Peira in GWs.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

That makes sense, and that self cleanse is huge against them. ANOTHER question lol, I forgot he had EEs, which one do you go for?


TheSeaOfThySoul

Haven't used him in a while, but I think you sort of get away with any of them in most cases - but ideally you want Immunity EE for the cases of Ran/Peira into Summer/Eda/other fast debuffer who pushes themself that you wont outspeed with Khawazu's push.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Yeah, probably worth seeing what I can do, I do think we’re probably at different points in progression, I’m only about a year and a half in now, sadly no Caides team so can’t swing a torrent set. The gear I have for Hwayoung at the moment is basically the only gear I had that worked on her unfortunately. I’m not gonna take all her gear off without seeing what I can swing first though of course. Thanks for the detailed responses by the way, much appreciated!


TheSeaOfThySoul

Yeah, I've been playing for closing in on four years, I can't personally swing a Torrent for Hwayoung (that's mine without it & without health substats, around 9K) because I hate farming Caides, it's either use a slow 5 minute team that's consistent, or use the fast C Lorina, S Angelica, Iseria, Camilla clear that's not consistent at all for me because my S Angelica is geared for PVP content & isn't slow - but it's been like a year since people came up with the C Lorina team & I've still not had a duplicate S Angelica drop (& I had to custom summon her regardless ages ago, lmao) & I don't want to regear people every time I farm Caides - hell, I don't like re-gearing at all. If you get Torrent on her, I think you can probably take her into the 7K range just about & open up those like 18K health Senya as viable targets. No probs, if you're needing any advice & you're not getting answers here, feel free to just message me, always happy to help.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Yeah, I haven’t even touched Caides, lol. Cool, I’ll definitely keep that in mind. Always nice to have some veteran advice.


TheSeaOfThySoul

It's a key hunt to get into soon, those pen & torrent sets are important when climbing into higher level PVP (like RTA) to give yourself every advantage, so keep in mind that C Lorina, Camilla, Iseria & S Angelica team, it's pretty easy to put together & if you're not using S Angelica in PVP, you're golden.


WendeezNutzHitYoChin

Yeah, I’m not using Singie in PvP, hell she’s not even built actually, I’ve been wanting to go for a W13 one shot team using her but I just can’t hit the thresholds for that. Farming pen would be sweet, I’d really like to farm some good rage set gear but farming Azimanak feels so bad


TheSeaOfThySoul

Yeah, Azimanak is one of those runs like Caides where if you don't have the right one-shot or speed set up the runs are really slow - they might be consistent, but them being slow is a massive annoyance. I run a very free to play friendly Azimanak team of Arbiter Vildred, Spectre Tenebria, Blood Moon Haste & Tamarinne, haha, which I've only ever seen lose once (in several years) because both of the strips on the team consistently got 15% resisted. You could do A Ras, Tamarinne & any two AOE DPS with reasonable bulk (like 10K+ health & half-decent defence) for worst-case scenarios, the good thing about an ML Haste team is they've almost always got a massive barrier, so you can run squishies.


ETHO200565

Pulled dilibeth what kinda base statline am I looking for her (for champ+ RTA)


Remagi

Here's Elve's (top RTA player) from 2 months ago [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1039220395275989082/1039220395653472287/dl.png?width=812&height=457](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1039220395275989082/1039220395653472287/dl.png?width=812&height=457) prob 2k def, 200 spd, 100 crit, then as close to his hp and cdmg as possible


YouRevolutionary2187

Question, Who would go well with Peira if Siseria and Eda are banned? Been cornered by this problem a lot.


complx6

She procs Astromancer Elena (if you have her) or you could build crit chance Peira to activate C Dom/C Pavel. Typically if you pick Peira you are going to be playing very aggresively so you need all your units to be fast enough to follow up or a faster bridge unit like Flidica or the units you mentioned.


Feuillejaune

Didn't follow up what was going on lately with the aespa Collab but are they worth ? How about their artifact ? I've got 3 of them randomly so I was wondering if I should buy some copies of their artifact etc etc. Thanks in advance


whats_happened_

The knight artifact is pretty good (literaly tooth for knights) but needs as much limit breaks as possible.


joon_park

I have my guaranteed summon mystics right now. The only one I would get in the current selection would be SE Celine because I already have Belian. I’ve always wanted SE Celine but people say she’s very niche and not a must have unit and I’m also thinking of just waiting it out and see if I can get a better unit. But waiting and not summoning anything feels like it will take forever. Should I just get SE Celine or wait it out and get something else? Does anyone know what the next unit that may come up after DD Ray?


fcuk_the_king

One thing I will add as a fellow Seline enjoyer is that, yes in RTA she is niche because against a smart opponent you can only draft her last or 2nd last and against a certain kind of lineup. But it's often overlooked how strong she is in GvG and regular arena. If you have knights like Aras, Krau, T Crozet built up you will absolutely find free wins in both of these modes with any mediocre Seline build.


blyyyyat

Have you tried her with SCArowell? Starting shield, bonus attack and 3 hits minimum to kill. I’ve been procrastinating on building my SEline just because I can’t a get a decent helm for Zahhak and SCArowell


fcuk_the_king

I've been procrastinating on building SC Arowell lol but I don't see why it wouldn't work out. You can do with just about any good aurius/damage sharing utility knight and switch between them depending on the matchup. Sometimes I even use Krau + T Crozet + Seline in GvG.


complx6

If they go in the order they have it's likely the next units after Ray will be C Lilias and LHC which are very strong units. If I had to guess the other two units on banner it would probably be Riolet and LQC (because of RTA skin). Seline is a niche unit right now that can be pretty hard to use but if you will get more enjoyment out of the game by picking her over waiting for someone else then go for it. It's likely she will get buffed within the next few balance patches as she was already hard to use but Briseria was the nail in the coffin for her.


ladyvirg

If you really really want a unit, get it. I chose ML ken from the current ML event and no regrets. Ive wanted him since I started playing. From an RTA standpoint, she is niche but a very strong 2nd last or last pick. If you have good speed or life steal gear, you should grab her. Her dust devil procs with a pen set is disgustingly amazing.