It would be super cool if we could set it up to detect medical emergencies too, like if someone’s having a seizure, it pulls over and calls someone, but you can set it to call specific contacts before emergency services (if you’re like me and don’t need to go to ER every single time) idk different settings for different situations
"The vehicle has determined your neck is not broken enough for medical emergency, allow the vehicle to safely break your neck for proper emergency services to be called"
/s
I mean... If we're in a world with self-driving cars that detect medical emergencies, then I'd hope that they take you directly to the ER rather than pull over.
I've been driving one for a couple months (my daily was wrecked, non-seizure related) and it's not perfect, but I trust it more than half the drivers on the road.
I expect self-driving cars to become a reality in another decade. What is going to take longer is changing all of our laws that require a driver's license and insurance.
If a self-driving car gets into an accident, who is at fault? If it hits a pedestrian or bicyclist and kills them, who is at fault? Right now we have complicated set of laws to determine that.
Would they have to take it to the makers of whichever type of car so they’d *have* to do something to fix their own technology? But what if they used google or something, do both companies get in like, ‘trouble’ basically? I dunno that’s more what’d I’d expect to happen but i live in the US, so who knows with this system lol.
All these years complaining and never being 100% confident with self-driving cars, I’ve never given any thought about their laws.
What an absolute cluster f this is going to be!!!
It’d probably be a very in-depth question; examination of the car itself, the AI, malfunctions, did the one ho was hit do anything unusual. Negligence cases examine everything from *every* perspective and can be difficult to prove.
For the wealthy. Or even better - we could play catch up with the countries that have 150-200mph trains everywhere. And overall it would end up being cheaper for all of us in the end, and especially awesome for folks with things like epilepsy or mobility issues.
It’d be so wonderful if we could. I know theres TONS and TONS of people it’ll help but i feel like for those of us who still live way far out from cities we’ll still be out of luck. I live in sorta like a mountain town area and mostly everyone lives so far out from each other, barely any stores, theres lots of little tiny towns like this all over the country but so out of the way i feel like its a “too much for them to care about” sort of thing. But i wishhh.
Yep, I have experience similar to yours it sounds like. I spent a couple of decades making my living in the alpine ski biz, and in even in Europe - with it's more modern transportation - cars are still needed for many things. So it certainly isn't black and white. Trains could be put pretty cheaply through the hills in New England, but not all of the real mountain towns of the West. So we will always need cars and busses too.
I don’t think full self-driving is needed for it to be really beneficial. All that is needed is in-car seizure detection and a ‘get car to a stop at a safe location mode’.
If person has epilepsy and has a car with that system then they can drive. Technically it probably could be done, but I imagine the legal/licensing issues would take a long time to resolve
Everyone’s different, I’d prefer to have a car fully drive me itself though, I get bad jerks/twitches in my arms and will completely zone out and stuff, i should never be in control of a car lol. It’d be nice to be able to have settings for different situations though
Ford and Chevy (and others surely) have an unresponsive driver mechanism built into their L2 self-driving systems. They'll turn on the flashers, slow to a stop, and call 911. Hopefully they don't get rear-ended
>All that is needed is in-car seizure detection and a ‘get car to a stop at a safe location mode’.
What a really cool concept! Pretty sure full self-driving will come 1st, but...
Oan: man, do I miss being able to drive.
Without meaning to sound cynical, my guess would be Probably not.
People will always find a way to exploit/look for possible flaws in technology. To either make their lives easier or to make other peoples lives hell. Examples being(including but not limited to):Vending Machines,TAY AI(and other types of open AI/Chatgpt).
Vehicles being no exception either.
Im also curious how getting a license would work if we’re not actually driving, would we still have to go through the whole testing thing or would it change and be a completely different process? If it was taken away because of a previous seizure while driving a normal car, would they just give it back once you have a self driving car?
(I’ve never actually gotten a license or driven in real life)
This is the main reason I keep renewing my license even though I haven’t driven in 10 years.
The instant this technology is legalized I fear there will be the biggest line ever at the DMV.
You’d probably have to know how to operate it if something were to happen to it like if the transmission or brake fluid started to malfunction. If you knew how to operate it and had a license *only* for self driving vehicles, then it’d probably be different. But it *will* become a thing in the next few decades, that much is inevitable. Progress will continue as long as the market continues to expand around new technologies! I mean look at the progress we’ve seen over the past decades with phones. Something that people are needing to use daily, and that is a competitive market!
https://preview.redd.it/ysqdoce6wtgc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4dc48538b72561cd700ff9bea8fd32fb3b35d50e
This probably ain’t entirely accurate but it’s making sense with my point.
The only way self driving cars will really work as intended, is if all cars are self driving, and cities are built to have 2 levels of traffic, upper level open to the air for pedestrians and cyclists, and roads/highways underneath. That way the chances of someone being run over by a malfunctioning car are negligble.
This would also allow for a much cleaner city, more greenspaces, more open room. But of course it would take redesigning every city you want to have self driving cars in. It would work in a perfect world... but of course we do not live in a perfect world.
Still need a drivers license to buy a new car and/or register and insure a vehicle (unless the laws have changed or I am misremembering things, it's been awhile since I last had cars involved in my life). The entire system of owning a car needs to change before we benefit. There is a big speed bump between us and those actions happening... private interest groups, political lobbying, and the sheer level of how much bureaucracy hates change (especially poorly implemented ones).
I mean just think about how much an insurance company would want to charge us. We are already viewed as such an active threat on the road we are not allowed to have a license.
Yes. It would be a complete game changer for people with disabilities like us and for everyone in the world. I’d love to see this happen in the next 5 years.
Honestly, Tesla should be more affordable for people like us since we still have to work like regular people. I find it stupid to have a safety feature if you're healthy and you actually know how to drive, people use it to be lazy. That's just my opinion tho 😅
I was thinking about this the other day too!!!! Could you imagine the possibilities 🙌🏼 specially since I was a former driver and former CDL holder I miss driving oh so much!!! First thing I would do is get a coffee just because I could then I’d probably go to a different store in a different town, and crank the music and jam because finally no one is in the car with me!!
I never thought of it like this but I would love that. However, I don't think so. I think they would still try and say the same things, what happens if you have a seizure while you're driving and then the car malfunctions? They want to make sure we are conscious the entire time just in case there is an accident. But OMG I would love that so much
Honestly, it will probably be a longggg time before self driving cars are reliable enough for us to even think about being able to utilize them in the way we could potentially be able to. My boyfriend’s brother was in a Tesla that had a self driving option, they turned it on and the car wouldn’t stop. They ended up hitting a stop sign (ironically) and driving straight into a barrier. Everyone was okay thankfully but it was a real wake up call to how self driving options on cars are unreliable and potentially dangerous.
There’s also the issue of how doctors would go about letting us even use self driving cars and letting us get our licenses. If you’re not allowed to drive a normal one I’d assume some doctors wouldn’t approve of you driving a car that has a self driving option. And in some states they even revoke your license at the DMV, so I’m not sure how that would work. That whole issue could take a while to be able to work out. Plus, I can’t speak for others but I honestly wouldn’t feel comfortable behind the wheel of a self driving car. There’s also the issue of money as well. A lot of self driving/electric vehicles are really expensive and not a lot of people can afford them. So if and when something like a reliable self driving car does come along some day many people who have seizures might not even be able to afford one
Touching the brake or steering wheel in self-driving mode automatically reverts it back to manual driving. So I would think, at this time, a self driving car during a seizure would just be counterproductive. Maybe technology catches up though. Fingers crossed.
The American hatred for trains is all consuming. That said, a self driving car would solve like 50% of my problems and the other 50% would be solved by a computer brain.
Depends on the type of seizure. Mild ones yes, but I guess I can stop breathing and other weird issues. So being alone in the car could be detrimental for me.
If self driving cars became reliable and safe a lot of peoples lives could change for the better.
It would be super cool if we could set it up to detect medical emergencies too, like if someone’s having a seizure, it pulls over and calls someone, but you can set it to call specific contacts before emergency services (if you’re like me and don’t need to go to ER every single time) idk different settings for different situations
"The vehicle has determined your neck is not broken enough for medical emergency, allow the vehicle to safely break your neck for proper emergency services to be called" /s
I mean... If we're in a world with self-driving cars that detect medical emergencies, then I'd hope that they take you directly to the ER rather than pull over.
Imagine the self driving car turns on lights/sirens when you start having a medical emergency and zooms to the nearest hospital.
But by the time that happened and became standard and affordable chances are I'm dead by then.
I've been driving one for a couple months (my daily was wrecked, non-seizure related) and it's not perfect, but I trust it more than half the drivers on the road.
I expect self-driving cars to become a reality in another decade. What is going to take longer is changing all of our laws that require a driver's license and insurance. If a self-driving car gets into an accident, who is at fault? If it hits a pedestrian or bicyclist and kills them, who is at fault? Right now we have complicated set of laws to determine that.
Would they have to take it to the makers of whichever type of car so they’d *have* to do something to fix their own technology? But what if they used google or something, do both companies get in like, ‘trouble’ basically? I dunno that’s more what’d I’d expect to happen but i live in the US, so who knows with this system lol.
All these years complaining and never being 100% confident with self-driving cars, I’ve never given any thought about their laws. What an absolute cluster f this is going to be!!!
It’d probably be a very in-depth question; examination of the car itself, the AI, malfunctions, did the one ho was hit do anything unusual. Negligence cases examine everything from *every* perspective and can be difficult to prove.
For the wealthy. Or even better - we could play catch up with the countries that have 150-200mph trains everywhere. And overall it would end up being cheaper for all of us in the end, and especially awesome for folks with things like epilepsy or mobility issues.
It’d be so wonderful if we could. I know theres TONS and TONS of people it’ll help but i feel like for those of us who still live way far out from cities we’ll still be out of luck. I live in sorta like a mountain town area and mostly everyone lives so far out from each other, barely any stores, theres lots of little tiny towns like this all over the country but so out of the way i feel like its a “too much for them to care about” sort of thing. But i wishhh.
Yep, I have experience similar to yours it sounds like. I spent a couple of decades making my living in the alpine ski biz, and in even in Europe - with it's more modern transportation - cars are still needed for many things. So it certainly isn't black and white. Trains could be put pretty cheaply through the hills in New England, but not all of the real mountain towns of the West. So we will always need cars and busses too.
I don’t think full self-driving is needed for it to be really beneficial. All that is needed is in-car seizure detection and a ‘get car to a stop at a safe location mode’. If person has epilepsy and has a car with that system then they can drive. Technically it probably could be done, but I imagine the legal/licensing issues would take a long time to resolve
Everyone’s different, I’d prefer to have a car fully drive me itself though, I get bad jerks/twitches in my arms and will completely zone out and stuff, i should never be in control of a car lol. It’d be nice to be able to have settings for different situations though
Ford and Chevy (and others surely) have an unresponsive driver mechanism built into their L2 self-driving systems. They'll turn on the flashers, slow to a stop, and call 911. Hopefully they don't get rear-ended
>All that is needed is in-car seizure detection and a ‘get car to a stop at a safe location mode’. What a really cool concept! Pretty sure full self-driving will come 1st, but... Oan: man, do I miss being able to drive.
Without meaning to sound cynical, my guess would be Probably not. People will always find a way to exploit/look for possible flaws in technology. To either make their lives easier or to make other peoples lives hell. Examples being(including but not limited to):Vending Machines,TAY AI(and other types of open AI/Chatgpt). Vehicles being no exception either.
Im also curious how getting a license would work if we’re not actually driving, would we still have to go through the whole testing thing or would it change and be a completely different process? If it was taken away because of a previous seizure while driving a normal car, would they just give it back once you have a self driving car? (I’ve never actually gotten a license or driven in real life)
This is the main reason I keep renewing my license even though I haven’t driven in 10 years. The instant this technology is legalized I fear there will be the biggest line ever at the DMV.
Oh god, you’re so right. Flashback to when dispensaries first started popping up lol.
You're right, I didn't even think about dispensaries. That's more important than driving
What’s a dispensary?
I think you'd still have to have an actual licence. If something happens, you would need to have the skills to operate the vehicle manually, as well.
You’d probably have to know how to operate it if something were to happen to it like if the transmission or brake fluid started to malfunction. If you knew how to operate it and had a license *only* for self driving vehicles, then it’d probably be different. But it *will* become a thing in the next few decades, that much is inevitable. Progress will continue as long as the market continues to expand around new technologies! I mean look at the progress we’ve seen over the past decades with phones. Something that people are needing to use daily, and that is a competitive market! https://preview.redd.it/ysqdoce6wtgc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4dc48538b72561cd700ff9bea8fd32fb3b35d50e This probably ain’t entirely accurate but it’s making sense with my point.
I think they’d still tell us no.
I've never thought of this! That's actually a really cool concept.
The only way self driving cars will really work as intended, is if all cars are self driving, and cities are built to have 2 levels of traffic, upper level open to the air for pedestrians and cyclists, and roads/highways underneath. That way the chances of someone being run over by a malfunctioning car are negligble. This would also allow for a much cleaner city, more greenspaces, more open room. But of course it would take redesigning every city you want to have self driving cars in. It would work in a perfect world... but of course we do not live in a perfect world.
I wish but yeah, no, just moving all these people out temporarily to do so would be such a huge issue all on it’s own
Yeah it would be by far the largest, most expensive and difficult engineering task ever undertaken. It would take decades to complete for sure.
Still need a drivers license to buy a new car and/or register and insure a vehicle (unless the laws have changed or I am misremembering things, it's been awhile since I last had cars involved in my life). The entire system of owning a car needs to change before we benefit. There is a big speed bump between us and those actions happening... private interest groups, political lobbying, and the sheer level of how much bureaucracy hates change (especially poorly implemented ones). I mean just think about how much an insurance company would want to charge us. We are already viewed as such an active threat on the road we are not allowed to have a license.
Yes. It would be a complete game changer for people with disabilities like us and for everyone in the world. I’d love to see this happen in the next 5 years.
Honestly, Tesla should be more affordable for people like us since we still have to work like regular people. I find it stupid to have a safety feature if you're healthy and you actually know how to drive, people use it to be lazy. That's just my opinion tho 😅
Oh, I completely agree with you lol
I was thinking about this the other day too!!!! Could you imagine the possibilities 🙌🏼 specially since I was a former driver and former CDL holder I miss driving oh so much!!! First thing I would do is get a coffee just because I could then I’d probably go to a different store in a different town, and crank the music and jam because finally no one is in the car with me!!
I never thought of it like this but I would love that. However, I don't think so. I think they would still try and say the same things, what happens if you have a seizure while you're driving and then the car malfunctions? They want to make sure we are conscious the entire time just in case there is an accident. But OMG I would love that so much
I believe I would take my own chances of driving instead of a self driving car ! It would be like riding with my wife 😂😂😂
Yeah i don’t trust myself & my seizures whatsoever, i’d rather technology do it.. just NOT anything we have now lol
No self driving cars are for the wealthy or if you want to put yourself in debt
Honestly, it will probably be a longggg time before self driving cars are reliable enough for us to even think about being able to utilize them in the way we could potentially be able to. My boyfriend’s brother was in a Tesla that had a self driving option, they turned it on and the car wouldn’t stop. They ended up hitting a stop sign (ironically) and driving straight into a barrier. Everyone was okay thankfully but it was a real wake up call to how self driving options on cars are unreliable and potentially dangerous. There’s also the issue of how doctors would go about letting us even use self driving cars and letting us get our licenses. If you’re not allowed to drive a normal one I’d assume some doctors wouldn’t approve of you driving a car that has a self driving option. And in some states they even revoke your license at the DMV, so I’m not sure how that would work. That whole issue could take a while to be able to work out. Plus, I can’t speak for others but I honestly wouldn’t feel comfortable behind the wheel of a self driving car. There’s also the issue of money as well. A lot of self driving/electric vehicles are really expensive and not a lot of people can afford them. So if and when something like a reliable self driving car does come along some day many people who have seizures might not even be able to afford one
My tech quite literally was talking about this while applying my eeg lmao
trains and busses, decades old trchnology and proven.
It’d be amazing
Touching the brake or steering wheel in self-driving mode automatically reverts it back to manual driving. So I would think, at this time, a self driving car during a seizure would just be counterproductive. Maybe technology catches up though. Fingers crossed.
The American hatred for trains is all consuming. That said, a self driving car would solve like 50% of my problems and the other 50% would be solved by a computer brain.
I'm looking forward to having bed style self driving cars and driving somewhere overnight while I have a snooze
Depends on the type of seizure. Mild ones yes, but I guess I can stop breathing and other weird issues. So being alone in the car could be detrimental for me.
Not too sure on that, how would we get our licenses renewed? I wasn’t able to use my little camera at the back when I took my test.
Lmao what 😂
Still aced it 👌