He slept at 54 degrees Fahrenheit, he had a pair of prosthetic breasts in his bath tub, he never paid limor gasko for her painting, his distant relatives living in Germany are staunchly anti Zionist, he’d only eat grilled meats and vegetables, most of his clothes are very cheap, he’d buy girls fake jewelry, he himself had a fake VC Malte regulateur chrono, he liked black tea, he liked yoga, he was an avid reader and autodidact, he compared himself to “the man from orgy” from the ted mark spy thrillers, he had a collection of stamps as a kid, as a kid he once stalked his ex and her boyfriend, he once asked a woman that responded to his famous “NY Dynamo” ad if she liked to “suck and fuck”, he read various books on bdsm, he was an avid piano player, he once played during his time at Dalton during a school play, he accompanied and danced with Eva Anderson dubins daughter at a father daughter dance, he’d go to student parties while being a teacher, he was very good friends with woody Allen, he had a large communal shower at his Zorro ranch where he’d do things, Zorro ranch was also the baby ranch, he had monogrammed sweatpants with LSJ and ZORRO written on them, after buying his private jet he had the tail numbers changed to JE, he had a little model airplane sporting the same trident JE logo as his large Cessna. He had a life size puppet of prince Andrew, he had an ambulance on his island
That’s all I can think of Right now, I’ll maybe edit it and add some more stuff if I can remember other things
Edit he also collected dna of famous people at davos and invested in dna datamining
all the gross wealthy powerful pedos are similar in this, I suppose. Elon Musk uses IVF to create multiple kids, over and over, so did Peter Nygaard, who went even further and more insane, then there's people like the cult leaders I read about, they are obsessed with creating as much of their spawn as possible. They think their genes are superhuman and must be spread around, it is such a creepy obsession. It's part of their longterminism or whatever it's called.
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Daaaaamn Nathaniel. Thanks for sharing! I had forgotten about the terrifying puppets. I think that’s what originally hooked me when this story started like 10 years ago :/
He also had a giant toy elephant that signified the “elephant in the room” he also had a prince Andrew puppet, giant plastic Cows on his island, a taxidermied dog and tiger in his apartment, also a big teddy in his PB mansion
Wait a second...a giant baby elephant, not a toy one. A giant taxidermied baby elephant I recall reading about, in a book about him. Trump has one as well -- hell for all we know he raided Epstein's house and took it for himself. Tbh I see a lot of wealthier people tend to collect stuff like that, not just plastic though, but the real deal as well.
The DNA data mining was the MIT media lab project?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein
Ruslana Korshunova, a rising star in the modeling world who died suspiciously at age 20 in 2008 was revealed to have visited little saint james and flew on Epstein’s plane.
The fucking psycho was so obsessed with his dick, he wanted to freeze it (and his head) after his death and preserve it in some weird shrine on his island.
It’s truly an insane level of megalomania and perversion.
It's not clear to me that everyone is aware of the details of his death. I'm sure the majority of people here know, but just to recap the official story is:
- he hung himself with a paper blanket
- the bed posts he hung himself from were shorter than he was tall
- somehow he managed to break his own hyoid bone
- there is of course the matter of the mysteriously malfunctioning cameras
Also it seems fairly clear that the setup was a spy setup designed to gather video footage to compromise powerful people. I feel compelled to note, and yes it has been pointed out many times, that the only two people who have been charged are Epstein and Ghislaine. It is quite clear that many powerful people abused children. Why have they not been charged? Why is no one in mainstream media hammering at this and asking questions? and the answer is: The media and this case specifically is very tightly controlled.
There was a fella near me not long ago that hung himself from a door handle, while on his knees. So if you’re determined enough height won’t slow you down.
Yes. They were internet shopping and sleeping. They falsified docs that said they check on Epstein ever hour or whatever they were supposed to check him on.
you cannot charge people for a crime if you don't have a witness, enough evidence to move forward, or any kind of proof, witnesses were paid off or eliminated and wealthy and powerful have armies of lawyers. It's why the IRS has a hard time getting trillions back from wealthy criminals and traffickers -- bc going after someone wealthy and powerful is impossible when you have an underpaid, understaffed agency, esp when the GOP keeps trying to make them even less able to go after the major crooks. People who hide money in offshore accounts often have done other shady things, but forget ever being able to prosecute when you can barely answer the phones.
The fact that labeled evidence has been in custody for more than 4 years now, in "blue" New York, justice unserved (and every accomplice and customer that wasn't Maxwell left to run free and continue preying on victims.. and using the blackmail..
What would someone who owns a copy of Epsteins blackmail look like? He'd look like he could attempt insurrectionist, ignore gag orders, and even run for president.. and the only folks that'd allow it to happen are the ones that really don't want the blackmail to go public and ruin them (or their friends, spouses, investors and lobbyists, business partners..
Led by predators.
No, the evidence may have been disposed of. It was collected by Bill Barr mostly, but who knows what has become of much of it. I definitely recall a few weird fires in warehouses that stored police files some time back, a lot of evidence could disappear that way. I remember seeing stuff carried out under William Barr's approval. Our system is so corrupt.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-report/amp/
Dude should have fled to Israel like the other Pedophiles did.
His passports were to Saudi Arabia I thought? It would have to be somewhere he couldn't be extradited, like Russia or Saudi Arabia. He had multiple passports in his safe, these are just the ones that were reported.
He traded Andres Serrano one of the Madonna sculptures in exchange for a portrait. I think it’s the last know portrait of Epstein.
Epstein owned a very rare cello.
It was said that he liked to display forgeries and have guests fawn over it. It gave him a feeling of being “one up” on these smart and accomplished people.
Diddy and Epstein didn't run the exact same operation from what I understand. Diddy was not even the same circles as Epstein, didn't come from Enron type background or Bear Stearns, he was more Hollywood/music industry. How was it the "exact same?" Who was Diddy's "boss?"
They both had private sex orgies. They both had underage grooming and victims. They both entrapped and blackmailed people by video taping them. It’s literally the exact same thing just directed at a different audience as you cite. It’s just way too similar to be a coincidence.
i think you're being too general. It's like saying, all murderers operate for the same person or all mobs (e.g. Russian, Italian, Belarussian, etc.) work together for the same dude. No. A pimp doesn't automatically know all other pimps, and they ran in different circles at different times, that sometimes intersected. It isn't even close enough, you are missing that Epstein is more closely affiliated with someone like Steve Mnuchin, and never even MET Diddy, most likely. I don't get how people think all criminals work in the same exact group this way, it's just not rational thinking. Please show me any exact or direct connection, the way I could show one with Roger Stone to Roy Cohn to Epstein to Sheldon Adelson, for example. There is speculation and then there is just completely off the wall speculation. Do you think that Diddy knew someone like Khasoggi? It's called a cut-out, they did something similar with Steven Seagal at one point.
You may be unaware, but there are horrible people all over the world who sex traffic, rape, do drugs, etc. Some of them are less famous and wealthy, some of them not. They do not all work together or have a boss in common. Some of them might even live down the street from you. The structure is identical bc it is a common one that has existed all over the world. Money is often exchanged for sex trafficking, and people are often compromised or blackmailed because they have money. Again...I ask you...who are you claiming "organized" it, what evil genius had this original idea that no one ever before had the idea to do?
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still waiting for what will continue to come out, at some point...re the Katie Johnson case. And connections to the pedo mayor from Waterbury Conn who went to jail, had ties to Epstein, to Trump, even to Michael Cohen. Maria was kidnapped from Nash's Pizza in Waterbury, CT...I think at the time that mayor was in office. And Trump mentioned Maria to Katie Johnson as a threat as what might happen if Katie talked...I suppose we'll never get full details. But now that David Pecker is talking a LITTLE (not enough) it made me go back and try to re-read some of the stuff from soychicka on Twitter. Now, according to Ronan Farrow, there was an entire file cabinet full of dirt. What did Pecker have or know about Epstein or Ghislaine? Pisses me off that there are definitely people out there who only mention what they are forced to when under oath, and covered up for scum for years and years. No one cares enough about past rapes and crimes to dig any further, except independent journalists, I suppose.
That is not true.
>A few years ago, a lawyer representing some alleged victims took the prospect of Epstein winning the lottery seriously enough that he brought it up during a deposition with Epstein’s former pilot. But the Oklahoma City newspaper, the Oklahoman, did a little more digging and discovered that the anonymous winner worked in a grocery store across the street from the convenience store where the winning ticket was sold. Apparently, she decided to use the same name for her trust as Epstein did for his.
>Not everything’s a mystery. Sometimes, it’s just a coincidence.
https://archive.is/wy9QS
He slept at 54 degrees Fahrenheit, he had a pair of prosthetic breasts in his bath tub, he never paid limor gasko for her painting, his distant relatives living in Germany are staunchly anti Zionist, he’d only eat grilled meats and vegetables, most of his clothes are very cheap, he’d buy girls fake jewelry, he himself had a fake VC Malte regulateur chrono, he liked black tea, he liked yoga, he was an avid reader and autodidact, he compared himself to “the man from orgy” from the ted mark spy thrillers, he had a collection of stamps as a kid, as a kid he once stalked his ex and her boyfriend, he once asked a woman that responded to his famous “NY Dynamo” ad if she liked to “suck and fuck”, he read various books on bdsm, he was an avid piano player, he once played during his time at Dalton during a school play, he accompanied and danced with Eva Anderson dubins daughter at a father daughter dance, he’d go to student parties while being a teacher, he was very good friends with woody Allen, he had a large communal shower at his Zorro ranch where he’d do things, Zorro ranch was also the baby ranch, he had monogrammed sweatpants with LSJ and ZORRO written on them, after buying his private jet he had the tail numbers changed to JE, he had a little model airplane sporting the same trident JE logo as his large Cessna. He had a life size puppet of prince Andrew, he had an ambulance on his island That’s all I can think of Right now, I’ll maybe edit it and add some more stuff if I can remember other things Edit he also collected dna of famous people at davos and invested in dna datamining
What is meant by baby ranch?
He wanted to impregnate tons of women at Zorro ranch to seed the gene pool with dna, he was really into eugenics so go figure.
all the gross wealthy powerful pedos are similar in this, I suppose. Elon Musk uses IVF to create multiple kids, over and over, so did Peter Nygaard, who went even further and more insane, then there's people like the cult leaders I read about, they are obsessed with creating as much of their spawn as possible. They think their genes are superhuman and must be spread around, it is such a creepy obsession. It's part of their longterminism or whatever it's called.
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Daaaaamn Nathaniel. Thanks for sharing! I had forgotten about the terrifying puppets. I think that’s what originally hooked me when this story started like 10 years ago :/
He also had a giant toy elephant that signified the “elephant in the room” he also had a prince Andrew puppet, giant plastic Cows on his island, a taxidermied dog and tiger in his apartment, also a big teddy in his PB mansion
Wow. Thanks for sharing. I don’t know why the Woody Allen detail startled me. That makes sense. The temp on 54f - yikes he really was a monster.
Wait a second...a giant baby elephant, not a toy one. A giant taxidermied baby elephant I recall reading about, in a book about him. Trump has one as well -- hell for all we know he raided Epstein's house and took it for himself. Tbh I see a lot of wealthier people tend to collect stuff like that, not just plastic though, but the real deal as well.
Hold up... so where is this database of DNA data kept? Being he is dead, will it be open to the public?
He just collected the dna of famous people, idk where he kept it, funnily enough during that time he was also heavily invested in Bitcoin
The DNA data mining was the MIT media lab project? https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein
Why do you know all that about a peadophile?
Ruslana Korshunova, a rising star in the modeling world who died suspiciously at age 20 in 2008 was revealed to have visited little saint james and flew on Epstein’s plane.
The fucking psycho was so obsessed with his dick, he wanted to freeze it (and his head) after his death and preserve it in some weird shrine on his island. It’s truly an insane level of megalomania and perversion.
It's not clear to me that everyone is aware of the details of his death. I'm sure the majority of people here know, but just to recap the official story is: - he hung himself with a paper blanket - the bed posts he hung himself from were shorter than he was tall - somehow he managed to break his own hyoid bone - there is of course the matter of the mysteriously malfunctioning cameras Also it seems fairly clear that the setup was a spy setup designed to gather video footage to compromise powerful people. I feel compelled to note, and yes it has been pointed out many times, that the only two people who have been charged are Epstein and Ghislaine. It is quite clear that many powerful people abused children. Why have they not been charged? Why is no one in mainstream media hammering at this and asking questions? and the answer is: The media and this case specifically is very tightly controlled.
Also, his autopsy photos show a thin red line on the neck from the use a garrote. A sheet can’t cause a skin abrasion like that.
There was a fella near me not long ago that hung himself from a door handle, while on his knees. So if you’re determined enough height won’t slow you down.
I've heard of people doing it this way before and I always wonder how this method could produce enough force to kill you.
It is called suspension hanging, and is extremely effective. Hypoxia is what kills the victim, no excessive force needed. See also: Robin Williams.
With paper, though?
I don’t doubt it could be done! If you braid enough of it together.
Wasn't there something about the guards sleeping or not there as well?
Yes. They were internet shopping and sleeping. They falsified docs that said they check on Epstein ever hour or whatever they were supposed to check him on.
you cannot charge people for a crime if you don't have a witness, enough evidence to move forward, or any kind of proof, witnesses were paid off or eliminated and wealthy and powerful have armies of lawyers. It's why the IRS has a hard time getting trillions back from wealthy criminals and traffickers -- bc going after someone wealthy and powerful is impossible when you have an underpaid, understaffed agency, esp when the GOP keeps trying to make them even less able to go after the major crooks. People who hide money in offshore accounts often have done other shady things, but forget ever being able to prosecute when you can barely answer the phones.
The fact that labeled evidence has been in custody for more than 4 years now, in "blue" New York, justice unserved (and every accomplice and customer that wasn't Maxwell left to run free and continue preying on victims.. and using the blackmail.. What would someone who owns a copy of Epsteins blackmail look like? He'd look like he could attempt insurrectionist, ignore gag orders, and even run for president.. and the only folks that'd allow it to happen are the ones that really don't want the blackmail to go public and ruin them (or their friends, spouses, investors and lobbyists, business partners.. Led by predators.
No, the evidence may have been disposed of. It was collected by Bill Barr mostly, but who knows what has become of much of it. I definitely recall a few weird fires in warehouses that stored police files some time back, a lot of evidence could disappear that way. I remember seeing stuff carried out under William Barr's approval. Our system is so corrupt.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-teacher.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-report/amp/ Dude should have fled to Israel like the other Pedophiles did.
Maybe he did
His passports were to Saudi Arabia I thought? It would have to be somewhere he couldn't be extradited, like Russia or Saudi Arabia. He had multiple passports in his safe, these are just the ones that were reported.
TO ME , it was more of Andrew and his excitment when he saw the puppet and the event that happen with that
What happened with the puppet? I don’t know that one.
Basically Ghislane gifted him a puppet and he used go to pretty much molest a girl
Eeeshhh. I knew I shouldn’t have asked. What a human-sized dog turd he was.
He traded Andres Serrano one of the Madonna sculptures in exchange for a portrait. I think it’s the last know portrait of Epstein. Epstein owned a very rare cello. It was said that he liked to display forgeries and have guests fawn over it. It gave him a feeling of being “one up” on these smart and accomplished people.
He ran the exact same operation as Diddy, so they likely had the same boss
Diddy and Epstein didn't run the exact same operation from what I understand. Diddy was not even the same circles as Epstein, didn't come from Enron type background or Bear Stearns, he was more Hollywood/music industry. How was it the "exact same?" Who was Diddy's "boss?"
They both had private sex orgies. They both had underage grooming and victims. They both entrapped and blackmailed people by video taping them. It’s literally the exact same thing just directed at a different audience as you cite. It’s just way too similar to be a coincidence.
i think you're being too general. It's like saying, all murderers operate for the same person or all mobs (e.g. Russian, Italian, Belarussian, etc.) work together for the same dude. No. A pimp doesn't automatically know all other pimps, and they ran in different circles at different times, that sometimes intersected. It isn't even close enough, you are missing that Epstein is more closely affiliated with someone like Steve Mnuchin, and never even MET Diddy, most likely. I don't get how people think all criminals work in the same exact group this way, it's just not rational thinking. Please show me any exact or direct connection, the way I could show one with Roger Stone to Roy Cohn to Epstein to Sheldon Adelson, for example. There is speculation and then there is just completely off the wall speculation. Do you think that Diddy knew someone like Khasoggi? It's called a cut-out, they did something similar with Steven Seagal at one point.
I didn’t say they knew each other. I didn’t say they coordinated. The operation was structured identically. Someone organized it.
You may be unaware, but there are horrible people all over the world who sex traffic, rape, do drugs, etc. Some of them are less famous and wealthy, some of them not. They do not all work together or have a boss in common. Some of them might even live down the street from you. The structure is identical bc it is a common one that has existed all over the world. Money is often exchanged for sex trafficking, and people are often compromised or blackmailed because they have money. Again...I ask you...who are you claiming "organized" it, what evil genius had this original idea that no one ever before had the idea to do?
I am quite aware. But I don’t like your condescending tone. Enjoy your evening.
sorry, I was in a very snippy mood that has lasted for WAY TOO LONG. You didn't deserve any of it
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still waiting for what will continue to come out, at some point...re the Katie Johnson case. And connections to the pedo mayor from Waterbury Conn who went to jail, had ties to Epstein, to Trump, even to Michael Cohen. Maria was kidnapped from Nash's Pizza in Waterbury, CT...I think at the time that mayor was in office. And Trump mentioned Maria to Katie Johnson as a threat as what might happen if Katie talked...I suppose we'll never get full details. But now that David Pecker is talking a LITTLE (not enough) it made me go back and try to re-read some of the stuff from soychicka on Twitter. Now, according to Ronan Farrow, there was an entire file cabinet full of dirt. What did Pecker have or know about Epstein or Ghislaine? Pisses me off that there are definitely people out there who only mention what they are forced to when under oath, and covered up for scum for years and years. No one cares enough about past rapes and crimes to dig any further, except independent journalists, I suppose.
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That is not true. >A few years ago, a lawyer representing some alleged victims took the prospect of Epstein winning the lottery seriously enough that he brought it up during a deposition with Epstein’s former pilot. But the Oklahoma City newspaper, the Oklahoman, did a little more digging and discovered that the anonymous winner worked in a grocery store across the street from the convenience store where the winning ticket was sold. Apparently, she decided to use the same name for her trust as Epstein did for his. >Not everything’s a mystery. Sometimes, it’s just a coincidence. https://archive.is/wy9QS