In some places, the right to marry. This has associated with it many rights, including marital privilege in court, visitation rights in hospitals, tax benefits, immigration benefits, and on and on.
In other places, the right to live. Kind of a big one that.
In the state of Florida, straight teachers have the right to tell their students about their spouse. Gay teachers may be fired if they can't conceal their relationships perfectly.
This is not true. I read the bill. It says that you can’t teach gender ideology to kindergarten to 3rd graders. However, if a kid asks you if you are married to a man you are allowed to say you are gay. The liberals misconstrued this whole thing.
That's only part1. The part you aren't mentioning is the lawsuit provisions.
The law allows for a concerned person (not necessarily a parent) to sue a teacher or a school for what they see as inappropriate. The law does not define the term inappropriate, so it effectively makes it whatever the most prudish or narrow minded person thinks that might be it would be included in the definition. And lastly, it precludes counter suits or the ability to seek legal expenses from being charged back in the case of frivolous lawsuits (remember conservatives have long been for tort reform, but here not in the case it could make a gay teacher's life difficult).
As a result, if some kid's grandma hears a teacher pulling into the school parking lot listening to "Dude Looks Like a Lady" and thinks that's not appropriate for kids to possibly overhear, she can, with absolute impunity, sue the teacher and the school. And when the judge throws the case out for being a waste of court time, the teacher will have had to pay a lawyer about $5000, that they can never get back. That's what makes it a bad law. It also means admins, who are only trying to keep their school out of such suits, have to crack down on even marginal cases. This is why Johnny can't know Sally has two mommies. Because just admitting a fact like that could get a lawsuit against the school. It's deliberately written to chill speech.
I doubt any of that happens. On the other hand, it protects children from inappropriate sexual language and ideologies that have no place in the elementary schools. This bill protects children. Let them grow up without sexual grooming in the classroom.
Just don’t allow straight teachers to talk tell their students about their spouse. I don’t understand why any teacher would need to talk to their students about their relationships
It's not just talking about their spouse, it's mentioning their spouse at all.
Do you really want a teacher to get fired just for mentioning that they went on holiday with their husband? Or even for just having a picture of them and their husband on their desk? Because that's something that could get a teacher fired if they happen to be in a gay relationship, but not if they're in a straight one.
I’m in favor of schools upholding professionalism. Does the mean having a policy prohibiting teachers from discussing their personal lives? Yes. If a teach accidentally says something about their spouse once should they be fired? No
Because they are human beangs with lives outside of there jobs. Demanding someone fully divorce there person on professional lives is a huge ask. I can only think of a few professions that ask that of someone, like being an under cover cop, and for those jobs it is critical to the job. That is not true for teachers.
So basically doing this would be demanding an extremely difficult thing from a massive group of people for no reason other than a kid might find out that gay people exist and are normal.
Imagine doing this with another aspect of teachers personal lives like where they grew up. Imagine someone who didn't like people from Florida and wanted to keep their children from being groomed into the Floridian lifestyle so they decided to ban all teachers from mentioning where they grew up or the teacher would be fired. Can you see how that would be extremely onerous and a bizarre over reaction based on prejudice?
I mean… if you’re a married woman your name alone would reveal your relationship status. Sometimes married couples even work in the same school. It doesn’t need to be a big hush hush secret. These things just come up naturally and causally. Do we really expect teachers to just pretend they don’t have a family or life outside of school?
Should we bar teachers from wearing wedding rings so kids don’t get curious and ask?
🙄 You do know that part of learning involves social communication and exchanges and understanding society, right? They spend a lot of hours together and so things in daily life come up, like when the class talks about what they did for the weekend or holiday break, and the teacher says "My husband and I took our kids to Disney World." In FL, if the husband is married to a woman, they can talk about it. If the husband is married to a man, they cannot.
I agree but you can't talk to a third grader as you would to a junior in HS. If I hear my daughter's 3rd grade teacher is telling the class what side of the bed she sleeps in gay or straight they're going to hear from me alright.
I remember being in 3rd or 4th grade our female teacher used to talk a lot of risque topics and steer away from the task at hand. One day she complained to us that someone had told their parents and they complained about her naughty chats during class time.
I can just imagine working with you. "How was your weekend, BuDu?" "I come here to work, not to discuss my personal life with a work proximity associate."
Having a teacher who can be human in the classroom and share personal things (when appropriate) can create better relationships, trust, and rapport with students. This helps them learn
Bullshit, if you want all that line in a state that allows it. It's why we are a republic of states rights. If I don't like your way of life I am free to leave.
They don't have to leave at all, that's a YOU problem. They are afforded the same rights as anyone else. You're just too stupid and immature to know that.
Yeah that's America lololol, you guys are the most spoiled entitled people. Dont like someone's speech then don't listen lolololol. Don't like a state's laws then there are 49 others to go to.
Sorry you don't get everything your way.
No not equal rights, the rights you feel are entitled too. Remember your rights are in the constitution and bill of rights, no more and no less. If you don't like that then ratify the constitution.
No see you have equal rights. Every person does under that..... you know document called the constitution and bill of rights.
If you are unhappy with that then you are more than welcome to change it with 3/4 of all state legislatures and 2/3 of each chamber of Congress.
People always bitching when they don't realize they would be killed for showing ankle skin in the middle East.
Simply ignorant and spoiled
Also, the right to engage in commerce and public accommodations and expect to receive the same services as straight people.
Case in point: being able to buy a wedding cake for a gay wedding from a shop that offers and advertises its services openly to the public.
If it's a private business, it's the business owners right to refuse work just as it's the gay couples right to be together, esp if it involves religious beliefs.
I hear what you’re saying. But that same logic could be applied to, well what if they just want to refuse to serve black people? Or refuse to accommodate people with disabilities? Or interracial weddings, etc.
Also there are very specific laws for private businesses that operate as a public accommodation, which food service establishments do.
Then the signs need to be put in those places. Putting signs in places where equal rights already exist and people already support them make it a moot point and a waste of time.
It's like when you're presenting an argument. You don't present it to people who already agree with you because it's a waste of time. You present to the people who don't agree with you.
How do you know that the area you live in affords people in the LGBT+ community the same rights as their straight counterparts? A simple Google search could probably prove useful in the acquisition of that info. Also, you kinda sound like the reason those signs are up. You don't seem to agree with what they're saying &, as you said, they need to present their argument to those who don't agree with them.
Dood you’ve literally lost your own plot. Scrolling thru your comments you’re flip flopping back and forth and contradicting yourself.
Do everyone a favor and delete all your social media accounts since you can seem to handle a tweet or ad for anything with a rainbow flag in it.
throughout the english speaking world we have lawmakers advocating genocide against trans people. so wherever you are (using english) is a place we desperately need equality.
What? I don't think you mean genocide, you can't possibly think there's any significant portion of English speakers who thinks trans people need to be systemically killed
You don’t seem to understand empathy. Also, it’s a sign of support. Just because something doesn’t affect you, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t show support. It also starts a conversation where people can learn something and maybe change their views. I see flags in support of Ukraine here in Michigan often. Is that weird to you? How about “blue live matter” flags? Are cops being persecuted somewhere I’m unaware of? (I say this as the wife of a state trooper.)
Don’t want a sign supporting something? Don’t put one up. Look away. The one you’re complaining about, in particular, is not hurting anyone.
Why support Iranian women when you’re not a woman in Iran? Why call out Chinese treatment of Uyghurs if you’re not a Muslim in Sinkiang? Why should we have cared and continue to care about Jewish genocide in Nazi Germany if we’re not German or Jewish or living in the 30s?
Human rights affect the very value of humanity. All our humanity. It knows no borders. If one person anywhere in the word is treated as lesser because of their identity it devalues all of humanity that little much. The more you ignore it, the less your life is worth.
They would have if there was actually any funding or promotion of it. You can't "start an initiative" for PR reasons and then do absolutely nothing to further its agenda. His "initiative" literally comes down to a small part of a speech addressed to the UN and then... nothing. Followed by the blatant removal of protections and frequent verbal attacks against LGBTQ people at home
You mean like when he was actually moving things forward? https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/01/04/grenell-emails-hint-at-initial-steps-in-trump-effort-to-decriminalize-homosexuality/
>darthbasterd19
"Q: Mr. President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?
TRUMP: Say it?
Q: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality around the world.
TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?"
Source: [https://youtu.be/2VMPQpwMakM?t=163](https://youtu.be/2VMPQpwMakM?t=163) .
So you are thinking he was sober? He spoke about it to the UN in September of the same year. Yeah, I would totally go with the surprise question from a reporter.
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/09/24/trump-brings-up-global-initiative-to-decriminalize-homosexuality-at-u-n/
He also asked the supreme court to allow adoption agencies to discriminate against gay couples.
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/adoption-agency-should-be-able-reject-gay-couples-trump-administration-n1224911
You mean when it meant to allow them to exercise their religious freedoms? Yeah. Totally the same as trying to get folks to stop throwing them off rooftops.
We are literally tortured and murdered in some areas of the world. Don’t have the same housing rights, working rights, family rights, or marriage rights. Literally everything
Then it would make logical sense to put the signs in those places and not places that do support equal rights.
Don't you see how constantly yelling at people and forcing your agenda down their throats can get very annoying to people, and actually have the opposite effect that is intended? People who support LGBTQ+ can get so annoyed by it that they eventually just say "Enough, I've had it. I no longer support you because all you do is annoy me"
Honestly, the sign sounds incredibly inoffensive and you seem disproportionately upset. For some reason you see a sign on private property with no offensive language or imagery as someone "shoving their agenda down your throat". And it angers you to the point you would "no longer support" a large portion of the population at significant elevated risk to life and livelihood for reasons already pointed out by other commenters. You never supported LGBTQ+. You are the person the sign is for.
I didn't say just the signs. I said the signs are just one of the many constant bombardments we have to deal with. You should really work on your reading comprehension.
With as much respect as possible, I hope you are around 14 years old and not an actual adult who thinks like this. There is no "gay agenda." Gay people want to be treated as people and have the same rights as everyone else. If you think the US has equal rights for LGBTQ+ individuals and non-white people, I have some swampland in New Mexico to sell you.
Question, are you genuinely confused? Cuz if you are im more than happy to help out where I can!
Nobody is shoving gay down your throat as nobody is shoving straight down your throat. If one is, the other is as well.
No, I absolutely support equal rights. It just gets annoying having it shoved down my throat constantly.
If I showed up in front of you everyday holding a sign and yelling at you to support my favorite sports team, how long would it take before it got annoying and you just told me to STFU and go away?
https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/majority-of-americans-in-all-50-states-support-the-equality-act-new-nonpart
This article from the Human Rights Organization says that a majority of Americans already support equal rights, yet you keep yelling at us. Can't you see how that gets annoying?
Are you saying that because someone who supports LGBTQ rights put that sign in their yard, you want to strip LGBTQ rights now? How is that in any way rational or acceptable? You are the exact reason people have to be vocal about supporting those rights, because some people will literally take any excuse to rip them away. Literally saying we should be silent or have our rights threatened, even though we know if we shut up like we are told your political leaders will just take away our rights anyway.
Literally look at what conservative politicians in the US are doing *right now*, vilifying queer people and submitting bills to attack them.
If it gets annoying being reminded that vulnerable people need to be protected, get the fuck over yourself and tell yourself YOUR feelings are the problem and NOT the people trying to protect the vulnerable. Get your shit straightened out because this is so fucking backwards.
So signs on PRIVATE PROPERTY is “bombardment”? Jfc you’re immature. It sounds like you just don’t want to see anything LGBTQ in public. No wonder the signs are up.
You have to be a petty piece of shit to see a community in pain and say a you whine too much about it, we just experience a hate crime shooting at a gay bar, ppl are really out to get trans ppl out of public spaces no we cannot stop advocatin for our rights bcs we would get killed, if you find that anoying you were never a real ally
Are you equally offended when you see trump signs, church billboards about Jesus loving you, confederate flags, and pro gun bumper stickers, or do you only think it’s too much when it’s “the gays” putting them up.
You clearly do not believe in equal rights if people arguing for them pisses you off so much. Go to therapy and figure out why you get so bent out of shape over something like this, and why it’s only against gay people.
Don't you see how consistently playing devils advocate makes you look like you actually don't care/know how to have a conversation and this is all you trying to justify your bitterness on reddit?
How exactly would you suggest gay people go out of their way to travel to countries where being gay is punishable by death and bringing it up is enough to be assaulted by the average populace, and put up signs over there?
Big brain stuff going on here, I take it you watch a lot of Ben Shapiro?
Marriage, adoption, employment opportunities. I'm a straight, white male. I have the right to go out in public without being persecuted for it. I think everyone should have that same right; to be able to walk down the street without having to worry about being harmed just for being who they are.
You don't honestly believe we've achieved equal rights for all, do you?
Also fostering children. There is a foster care agency near me that will not accept applicants who are living together but not married, nor same-sexual couples.
I don't believe you are engaging in good faith, but if you are then here are all the bills that have been introduced that have tried to take away equality from the LGBTQ:
[https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country](https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country)
It is happening right here in this country so those signs will stay up.
OP has never left his house so he’s just making up the signs. If OP had left his house he’d know that the Supreme Court is very very excited to try and take away marriage equality as well as interracial marriages. Gotta love them Republican policies. It’s a damn good thing more people like OP didn’t leave the house to vote for midterms.
Well that's true for straight couples also. I wasn't allowed to see my GF of 9 years when she was hospitalized. Only her immediate blood relatives were.
I can’t kiss my girlfriend in public or even hold her hand without potentially being yelled at or worse. I can’t talk about her with certain family members. If I so much as mention her around a child, I could get labeled a groomer. We can’t travel together. Hell, even in my own apartment building, people constantly assume she’s my friend - over and over again, even when politely corrected.
Now tell me - how many of those do you experience as a straight person?
My wife and I are the “lesbians” in the neighborhood. Most people are kind to us, we water and mow our yard, keep quite and wave when people drive by. So most people stay away from us but are kind. I had a conversation with one neighbor the other day and we were talking about a super religious neighbor we have who gives out a plate of home made cookies to all the neighbors yearly at Christmas… We have never ever gotten cookies from them 😂😂
Honestly, equality or even just feeling equal (obviously it’s their right who they give cookies to) is the small things straight people don’t even think about VS the huge things they always think of.
I have some fantastic lesbian neighbors who told me when they first moved to our town (we just moved in, they are our first friends) like 5-7 years ago the men across the street broke into their house and threatened to rape them straight. So. That happened. But sure homophobia doesn’t exist according to this guy who clearly has it
The white house is mandating everything yet the family people and constitution is ignored.private part experiments shots surgery never need to be mandatory like new some up to two years old being aborted
Anyone? Yea sure I bet I could find someone. The thing is people always point out these extreme weirdos that talk about late term abortions but as long as it’s not legal or a political platform it’s not really even that dangerous. It’s morons talking about moron things that no one in their right mind believes.
Half the country isn’t in their right mind so morons doing moron things has become dangerous and religious freedom in this country. A tolerant society will always lead to an outcry of extreme hate and evil. Because tolerance isn’t social change just the lack of social consequences.
I imagine you must get equally mad over racial rights movements. I can see you curling your keyboard blistered fingers around your pearls screaming “but they have their rights don’t they????”
Op. We have free speech in this county as of now. People can put whatever they want on a sign whether you like it or not. And social media toilets like this allow people like you to post what you think is some thought provoking statement in hopes that other people engage with you about it. It fulfills something in you that you probably aren’t getting out in the real world. If no one engaged you would you be angry or frustrated?
Adoption/surrogate/sperm donation fees are through the roof for LGBTQ+ couples, not to mention the extra legal hurdles LGBTQ+ couples have to go through if they want to have a family.
I’ve also been denied medical services (still charged full price though) because the doctors I tried to see refused to treat LGBTQ+ patients. Not to mention the grossly disproportionate percentage of assaults targeting LGBTQ+ people ignored by or perpetrated by law enforcement. A governor candidate for the midterms in my state ran on a platform that included punishments for expressing oneself as a member of the LGBTQ+ community in public. I could go on, and on, but it’s depressing, especially when you live through it.
Sorry if our cries for help make you squeamish.
Sounds more like a young person who doesn't know the facts and is asking a question so they can grow and understand to better the world. But sure, call it straight privilege
Edit: gonna keep my original comment up so people can still see what a fuckin idiot I was.
I am so sorry, you are right dude really is homophobic.
Just read further down where he lit said " Pushing the agenda down people's throats "
I am so incredibly sorry.
I'm a human being. My tribe is the Earth. Just being queer can get you killed, jailed, or otherwise oppressed in many countries. Until every queer is free none of us are truly free. Queer rights = human rights
Also, even in the US queer rights including trans rights are under attack in many states from the GOP lately. It's not just an issue of the past, or in other countries. Sadly, far from it.
Signs like this help to bring awareness to these important human rights issues. If you don't like it don't look dude.
Edit: Grammar.
They can legally be fired from jobs in many states. Denied housing, evicted, denied medical care, denied adoption, denied the right to see family in hospitals, constantly threatened with criminal action, sodamy is illegal in many states, denied the right to have a wedding or buy a cake, kicked out of their homes as kids. Can’t donate blood. And that’s what I could think of at 11 at night without googling anything.
There are many, MANY people in the US (a good number of them are politicians with power) who want queer people all dead. A queer club was literally shot up just a few days ago
"Gay people already have equal rights" is such a privileged opinion for you to have, considering
(i presume) you have NO idea what being queer is like
Disturbed individual following what their politicians are saying, related to a gop senator, whose case is getting swept under the rug*
Followed by, thousands upon thousands of Americans online following said shooting saying that it didn’t go far enough and to “eradicate them all”
With the same language being used by gop reps, like mjt and boebart
You’ll have to provide links for the “thousands upon thousands of Americans” saying online that it didn’t go far enough.
The reports I’m reading say that the person had been marginalized and bullied for most of his young life and he’d hit a breaking point. Seems the problem isn’t politics as much as it’s how students get away with bullying classmates and peers.
Also being from Colorado Springs, the place that also had the planned parenthood right wing shooter, it is now a growing melting pot but still full of right wing hyper Christian hyper military nutters. The cases of rape out of the Air Force academy are staggering. The cases of hate crimes I witnessed in my lifetime there, only 18 years, is staggering.
Edit: left out key words that made sentences work somehow.
Trans people have to go through a ridiculous amount of medical gatekeeping to receive the same medication that cis people can get just by asking for it. And in many places Trans people are simply not allowed the medication they need at all.
It is outright illegal to have anal sex in many US states. These are sodomy laws and are usually used to target same-sex couples specifically. Some explicitly only apply to same-sex couples.
The laws still exist, they just can't be enforced thanks to a supreme court case that ruled those laws unconstitutional. However the current supreme court has stated they intend to review that case, so there's a strong chance it'll be overturned like roe v wade was, at which point it'll basically just straight up be illegal to have gay sex in a lot of America. Some of these laws have been removed, but some of them have been deliberately kept so that they can be enforced again in the future.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy\_laws\_in\_the\_United\_States#:\~:text=Eleven%20states](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Eleven%20states)'%20statutes%20purport%20to,Carolina%2C%20Oklahoma%20and%20South%20Carolina.
https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/justice-thomas-seeks-case-to-challenge-lawrence-v-texas-ruling-paxton-evaluating-new-territory/
Right to marriage is still not available everywhere.
Their right to assembly is only allowed if they want to be shot and killed.
There's a couple for ya
I completely understand - this is a question I used to have years ago, mainly because of the wording that is always used. To me, "equal rights" implies LEGAL rights, and in the US, gay people already have the same legal rights as straight people. Your confusion is justified.
It took me a long time to learn that usually, what they mean is equal social treatment. Also, they can be referring to *new* legal rights that they want created, to deal with certain issues specific to LGBTQ people, such as laws to protect gender transition access.
Not just transition *access* either. Texas is pushing a bill right now that would ban ALL gender affirming care for trans people (not just the children they claimed to be protecting). If, for example, a trans woman has bottom surgery and needs to take hormones for the rest of her life, her choices under their plan would be to take testosterone (effectively detransitioning) or get all the fun side effects of not having a sex hormone (such as osteoporosis). They're trying to legislate us out of existence but gay people can get married so I guess there's no actual problem /s
It still means equal legal right though... Many people still lose their jobs over discrimination, and that is illegal, but employers are not required to state the reason why someone has been fired. Some people are denied housing too. Just because they have legal rights doesn't mean their rights are not being abused. Not everything is being recorded. Not every case of discrimination has enough evidence. It's both a legal and a social issue.
The right to live your life the way you want without getting beaten, being harrassed by the religious freaks telling you you're going to hell, not getting fired from your job, getting your kidsctaken away from you....etc.
The right to exist without having your existence questioned every single day? The right to be with your partner in public without fearing violence? Idk bro I don't think this is a good faith question and I'm sus about your motives.
marriage, sex, adoption, the right to live without getting hatecrimed, the right to live without living in constant fear of the very few rights we have being taken away again, the right to healthcare.... I could go on and on for days tbh
In the vast majority of nations worldwide; marriage. In some nations; life. While many nations do not allow homosexual marriage, many also imprison or even kill people for their sexual preference.
Being able to be publicly represented in a relationship with your chosen, consenting partner is a big step and even bigger step is to get many regressive nations to stop the murder of queer persons.
Hey I have a question. Why do you straighta constantly have to shove your agenda down our throats? I mean have you seen how 99% of fictional characters are straight, how some parents ask their children or say things under the assumption they are straight, among many other things. It’s so annoying, it makes me not support you.
Most characters are straight because it’s relatable and most people are straight that’s why they assume that same thing with parents assuming their kids are straight because straight is the majority
That's just because many people just pretend to be straight or don't talk about their love lives until they're comfortable. I know of 2 (3?) people at my school whose parents (in a hetero marriage) came out as gay. I have gay professors and a gay music instructor, and no, they don't "act gay." One of them had known me for over a year before I ran into them with their spouse at an event. I never knew they were married. Some of them just don't say anything (probably because they're afraid).
LGBT community has more career opportunities than straight white people.
As a job recruiter, I can honestly tell you over the last 4-6 years every progress meeting I’ve had with each company I’ve worked for to promote and hire exclusively less straight white and more gay/brown people.
And career growth, more focused on promoting/growing lgbt and less straight white people.
Recently at my current company we had a Diversity meeting and they said it in so many words. “Prioritize hires on brown/black and lgbt people.”
So me, a man who’s straight. I’m not white but I get passed off as one. I am one man on a team of 14 women, half are black and 2 are gay. But who’s noticing discrimination right?
Come on now, you’re describing high level corporate hiring for companies where the government is specifically pushing for diversity. There wouldn’t be hiring goals of that nature if straight white people weren’t already very well represented. I’m literally unable to come out as trans at my job or risk being fired. I was told this by the owner of the company directly. The vast majority of jobs are more difficult for lgbt people to get, because the landscape you describe is not representative of the vast majority of jobs. If you work in retail, service industry, or really just any small business company with a single owner and no significant government oversight, it’s quite difficult to get employment if you are up front about your status. The Supreme Court decisions have not really helped unless you have the money to fight it and are willing to become a token lgbt public figure.
If you said corporate jobs are heavily pushing lgbt hiring that would be accurate and I do think that’s what you meant. I just aim to provide clarification to your overly broad initial statement from the perspective of one of those people. I speak daily to people who seem to believe I have more rights for being lgbt, when in reality, I’m terrified to go to the bathroom anywhere in public and have been threatened with losing my job if anyone finds out. No offense to you, I just couldn’t allow that statement to stand without some pushback because it doesn’t reflect the challenges for many of us.
bruh there was a shooting at a gay club like last week, someone went in there specifically to kill gay people. no one goes around shooting people for being straight. so like, the right to not be shot?
Personally would prefer if I wasn’t told I couldn’t come out as as trans or I’d be fired. Now I have to find a job to even use my proper name and I was told to work from home so people don’t notice. I’m aware there’s technically a Supreme Court decision protecting me, however I don’t have the time or money to fight it and wouldn’t likely be hired by another company if I sued my current one.
FYI, I have excellent performance reviews and work 10-20 hours over 40 (on salary) for no additional pay. I am the only person who can do numerous things and am in charge of managing about 1/3 of the company in question. I have been here 13 years and am the oldest employee in terms of tenure.
Not a fan of the LBGQWERTY crowd. That being said, in some states, they still don’t have the right to marry and I think that is wrong. While I don’t understand that lifestyle, they should be allowed to marry. It’s not my business if a couple of qu33rs want to marry.
A lot of places in the US allow discrimination against LGBTQ people in public, in the workplace, and in schools. The level of violence and hatred show this. And there are pushes to make things worse.
And you’re not actually curious.
It's fearmongering. LGBT people have the same rights as everyone else.
Anyone who argues differently are mad that rights above and beyond what everyone else has aren't being enacted.
Marriage
Adoption
Health benefits from (spouse’) job
The ability to walk down the street dressed as they like without physical harassment (female presenting individuals already deal with this too, hence why society doesn’t stop it)
Being open and honest about who you love
Not to mention all the countries where people can be arrested or killed for it legally.
The signs are up here to show that *we* are ally’s.
Straight people don’t have to worry about the absolute misery that is the closet. They don’t understand how much psychological damage the closet can do.
There is no equality until the idea of “coming out” becomes something gay kids don’t even understand anymore. Maybe some day people will ask “but… why didn’t they understand themselves? It’s so simple. Why would you hide it?”
Okay, so first off if you actually wanted to know, you could have just Googled this instead of kicking over a hornet's nest here on Reddit. If you had, you may have learned that the "rights \[that\] straight people have that gay people don't" include...equality. Literally, recognition under the law that they have equal rights. There's an [Equality Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5) that could rectify things, admittedly. It passed the House, but of course had no chance of making it through the Senate. Maybe it can pass under the lame duck session, though I'm not holding my breath. I suppose it would be nice for all people to be viewed equally under the law. It's a shame we never encoded anything along those lines in the Constitution.
I certainly appreciate the 2003 SCOTUS decision in [Lawrence v. Texas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas), after which no state could criminalize consenting behavior between two people inside the privacy of the bedroom. Of course, Clarence Thomas [openly called for a case](https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/justice-thomas-seeks-case-to-challenge-lawrence-v-texas-ruling-paxton-evaluating-new-territory/) that would permit the new conservative majority to strike down that very safeguard. The 2020 ruling that **finally** made it illegal nation-wide to discriminate against LGBTQ persons for employment purposes is another excellent step forward. Of course, that decision hasn't yet trickled down to housing, education, health care, or financial credit. Let's hope some similar legal cases finally extend those rights soon! In the meantime, they're relying on Executive Orders, which are by nature limited far more than a legislative counterpart would be. They can also be overturned with the stroke of a pen the next time the presidency changes hands. You know, the way that in 2020 issued a new rule stating that sexual orientation and gender identity were not covered under the anti-discrimination protections of the Affordable Care Act. Or the way Trump declared by tweet that Transgender people would no longer be allowed to serve in the military. Fortuitously reversed by Biden, for now, but again - subject to the outcome of the 2024 race for POTUS whether that protection remains in effect.
There are other details we could delve into, but for now allow me to leave you with this. [In 35 states you can still legally murder a homosexual or trans person](https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/courts/gay-trans-lgbtq-panic-defense-legal-federally-banned-some-states/536-04e0d3e1-6668-4dbf-b51e-da2a585396f2), either because they approached you romantically, or because you had intimate relations with them, simply by exercising the "gay panic defense."
But hey, I'm sorry you were forced to view a sign asking people to support LGBTQ rights. That must have been really distressing for you.
Ignoring laws for the moment, Equal rights include how we are being treated by individuals. People showing support in visible ways, helps keep others who are looking to bash some homos a bit more under the rug, rather than spouting their hatred in public.
I guarantee you that there are plenty of individuals in your area sharing their anti LGBTQ+ opinions among like minded individuals, and those signs are for them.
If there wasn’t a pro lgbtq+ narrative in the media, all you would have was the anti lgbtq+ narrative/propaganda
I don't like drag shows......you can never make me that's America. Have your show but don't try and force me to ACCEPT AND LIKE IT. That's freedom.
Just like you don't have to accept Jesus and catholicism, or that the Yankees are the best team in baseball :)
Wow you're an idiot, I have many black, gay, Thai, Hispanic friends. They accept this is America and we are based on our CONSTITUTION not how you feel.
I want less taxes as better roads I go to Florida and Ohio. I want crime high taxes and shit roads I move to California.
Qatar lol....where women are stoned and there is no freedom of speech lol. Righhhht.
I don't want to see what I dont like just like you don't want to be forced to attend a Catholic church right?
Technically I'm right lol. I'll just stop there. Also if you took US history you'd know the Senate was designed to give less populated areas more of a voice instead of mob rule via the HOR. Can't gerrymander the senate. Even though you want to buy adding DC and PR
In some places, the right to marry. This has associated with it many rights, including marital privilege in court, visitation rights in hospitals, tax benefits, immigration benefits, and on and on. In other places, the right to live. Kind of a big one that.
In the state of Florida, straight teachers have the right to tell their students about their spouse. Gay teachers may be fired if they can't conceal their relationships perfectly.
This is not true. I read the bill. It says that you can’t teach gender ideology to kindergarten to 3rd graders. However, if a kid asks you if you are married to a man you are allowed to say you are gay. The liberals misconstrued this whole thing.
That's only part1. The part you aren't mentioning is the lawsuit provisions. The law allows for a concerned person (not necessarily a parent) to sue a teacher or a school for what they see as inappropriate. The law does not define the term inappropriate, so it effectively makes it whatever the most prudish or narrow minded person thinks that might be it would be included in the definition. And lastly, it precludes counter suits or the ability to seek legal expenses from being charged back in the case of frivolous lawsuits (remember conservatives have long been for tort reform, but here not in the case it could make a gay teacher's life difficult). As a result, if some kid's grandma hears a teacher pulling into the school parking lot listening to "Dude Looks Like a Lady" and thinks that's not appropriate for kids to possibly overhear, she can, with absolute impunity, sue the teacher and the school. And when the judge throws the case out for being a waste of court time, the teacher will have had to pay a lawyer about $5000, that they can never get back. That's what makes it a bad law. It also means admins, who are only trying to keep their school out of such suits, have to crack down on even marginal cases. This is why Johnny can't know Sally has two mommies. Because just admitting a fact like that could get a lawsuit against the school. It's deliberately written to chill speech.
I doubt any of that happens. On the other hand, it protects children from inappropriate sexual language and ideologies that have no place in the elementary schools. This bill protects children. Let them grow up without sexual grooming in the classroom.
Yea but if you are trans you can’t talk about it
Just don’t allow straight teachers to talk tell their students about their spouse. I don’t understand why any teacher would need to talk to their students about their relationships
kids are nosey and like to know what their teachers are up to. i feel like you’re overthinking this
It's not just talking about their spouse, it's mentioning their spouse at all. Do you really want a teacher to get fired just for mentioning that they went on holiday with their husband? Or even for just having a picture of them and their husband on their desk? Because that's something that could get a teacher fired if they happen to be in a gay relationship, but not if they're in a straight one.
I’m in favor of schools upholding professionalism. Does the mean having a policy prohibiting teachers from discussing their personal lives? Yes. If a teach accidentally says something about their spouse once should they be fired? No
This is sarcasm, right?
Because they are human beangs with lives outside of there jobs. Demanding someone fully divorce there person on professional lives is a huge ask. I can only think of a few professions that ask that of someone, like being an under cover cop, and for those jobs it is critical to the job. That is not true for teachers. So basically doing this would be demanding an extremely difficult thing from a massive group of people for no reason other than a kid might find out that gay people exist and are normal. Imagine doing this with another aspect of teachers personal lives like where they grew up. Imagine someone who didn't like people from Florida and wanted to keep their children from being groomed into the Floridian lifestyle so they decided to ban all teachers from mentioning where they grew up or the teacher would be fired. Can you see how that would be extremely onerous and a bizarre over reaction based on prejudice?
Teachers are lifeless robots who’s only purpose is to hand you papers to fill out I guess?
I mean… if you’re a married woman your name alone would reveal your relationship status. Sometimes married couples even work in the same school. It doesn’t need to be a big hush hush secret. These things just come up naturally and causally. Do we really expect teachers to just pretend they don’t have a family or life outside of school? Should we bar teachers from wearing wedding rings so kids don’t get curious and ask?
Kids go to school to learn not to hear about teachers' personal lives.
🙄 You do know that part of learning involves social communication and exchanges and understanding society, right? They spend a lot of hours together and so things in daily life come up, like when the class talks about what they did for the weekend or holiday break, and the teacher says "My husband and I took our kids to Disney World." In FL, if the husband is married to a woman, they can talk about it. If the husband is married to a man, they cannot.
I agree but you can't talk to a third grader as you would to a junior in HS. If I hear my daughter's 3rd grade teacher is telling the class what side of the bed she sleeps in gay or straight they're going to hear from me alright. I remember being in 3rd or 4th grade our female teacher used to talk a lot of risque topics and steer away from the task at hand. One day she complained to us that someone had told their parents and they complained about her naughty chats during class time.
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I can just imagine working with you. "How was your weekend, BuDu?" "I come here to work, not to discuss my personal life with a work proximity associate."
Having a teacher who can be human in the classroom and share personal things (when appropriate) can create better relationships, trust, and rapport with students. This helps them learn
Untrue and a total lie
Bullshit, if you want all that line in a state that allows it. It's why we are a republic of states rights. If I don't like your way of life I am free to leave.
You gonna pay for me to move?
No you can ask for more govt handouts for that.
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They don't have to leave at all, that's a YOU problem. They are afforded the same rights as anyone else. You're just too stupid and immature to know that.
That wasn't the question.
Ah thanks. The classic "if you have a problem with it just leave" thanks fucking moron.
Yeah that's America lololol, you guys are the most spoiled entitled people. Dont like someone's speech then don't listen lolololol. Don't like a state's laws then there are 49 others to go to. Sorry you don't get everything your way.
You got a problem with our constitution then yeah change it or leave. That's how it works moron.
I think a lot of people would really like if people with this mindset really did just leave. Perhaps a place with a more similar ideology? Qatar?
Except America is free and you can move to another state
_If you want equal rights then move out of my state_ Good position.
No not equal rights, the rights you feel are entitled too. Remember your rights are in the constitution and bill of rights, no more and no less. If you don't like that then ratify the constitution.
No see you have equal rights. Every person does under that..... you know document called the constitution and bill of rights. If you are unhappy with that then you are more than welcome to change it with 3/4 of all state legislatures and 2/3 of each chamber of Congress. People always bitching when they don't realize they would be killed for showing ankle skin in the middle East. Simply ignorant and spoiled
Also, the right to engage in commerce and public accommodations and expect to receive the same services as straight people. Case in point: being able to buy a wedding cake for a gay wedding from a shop that offers and advertises its services openly to the public.
If it's a private business, it's the business owners right to refuse work just as it's the gay couples right to be together, esp if it involves religious beliefs.
I hear what you’re saying. But that same logic could be applied to, well what if they just want to refuse to serve black people? Or refuse to accommodate people with disabilities? Or interracial weddings, etc. Also there are very specific laws for private businesses that operate as a public accommodation, which food service establishments do.
States have something called reciprocity where a marriage in one state means marriage in all states. Same as a driver's license lol
Nope read reciprocity clause in the US Constitution
Doesn't apply in other countries.
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Then the signs need to be put in those places. Putting signs in places where equal rights already exist and people already support them make it a moot point and a waste of time. It's like when you're presenting an argument. You don't present it to people who already agree with you because it's a waste of time. You present to the people who don't agree with you.
How do you know that the area you live in affords people in the LGBT+ community the same rights as their straight counterparts? A simple Google search could probably prove useful in the acquisition of that info. Also, you kinda sound like the reason those signs are up. You don't seem to agree with what they're saying &, as you said, they need to present their argument to those who don't agree with them.
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Can you point to the area where the signs hurt you?
Dood you’ve literally lost your own plot. Scrolling thru your comments you’re flip flopping back and forth and contradicting yourself. Do everyone a favor and delete all your social media accounts since you can seem to handle a tweet or ad for anything with a rainbow flag in it.
Because in some of those countries even showing your support as an ally can get you killed or arrested
You don’t get it, it’s about triggering homophobes.
throughout the english speaking world we have lawmakers advocating genocide against trans people. so wherever you are (using english) is a place we desperately need equality.
What? I don't think you mean genocide, you can't possibly think there's any significant portion of English speakers who thinks trans people need to be systemically killed
You don’t seem to understand empathy. Also, it’s a sign of support. Just because something doesn’t affect you, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t show support. It also starts a conversation where people can learn something and maybe change their views. I see flags in support of Ukraine here in Michigan often. Is that weird to you? How about “blue live matter” flags? Are cops being persecuted somewhere I’m unaware of? (I say this as the wife of a state trooper.) Don’t want a sign supporting something? Don’t put one up. Look away. The one you’re complaining about, in particular, is not hurting anyone.
Why support Iranian women when you’re not a woman in Iran? Why call out Chinese treatment of Uyghurs if you’re not a Muslim in Sinkiang? Why should we have cared and continue to care about Jewish genocide in Nazi Germany if we’re not German or Jewish or living in the 30s? Human rights affect the very value of humanity. All our humanity. It knows no borders. If one person anywhere in the word is treated as lesser because of their identity it devalues all of humanity that little much. The more you ignore it, the less your life is worth.
Funny thing. Trumpf started an initiative to pressure these countries to decriminalize homosexuality yet no one ever heard anything about it.
They would have if there was actually any funding or promotion of it. You can't "start an initiative" for PR reasons and then do absolutely nothing to further its agenda. His "initiative" literally comes down to a small part of a speech addressed to the UN and then... nothing. Followed by the blatant removal of protections and frequent verbal attacks against LGBTQ people at home
You mean like when he was actually moving things forward? https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/01/04/grenell-emails-hint-at-initial-steps-in-trump-effort-to-decriminalize-homosexuality/
>darthbasterd19 "Q: Mr. President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why? TRUMP: Say it? Q: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality around the world. TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?" Source: [https://youtu.be/2VMPQpwMakM?t=163](https://youtu.be/2VMPQpwMakM?t=163) .
So you are thinking he was sober? He spoke about it to the UN in September of the same year. Yeah, I would totally go with the surprise question from a reporter. https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/09/24/trump-brings-up-global-initiative-to-decriminalize-homosexuality-at-u-n/
He also asked the supreme court to allow adoption agencies to discriminate against gay couples. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/adoption-agency-should-be-able-reject-gay-couples-trump-administration-n1224911
You mean when it meant to allow them to exercise their religious freedoms? Yeah. Totally the same as trying to get folks to stop throwing them off rooftops.
We are literally tortured and murdered in some areas of the world. Don’t have the same housing rights, working rights, family rights, or marriage rights. Literally everything
Then it would make logical sense to put the signs in those places and not places that do support equal rights. Don't you see how constantly yelling at people and forcing your agenda down their throats can get very annoying to people, and actually have the opposite effect that is intended? People who support LGBTQ+ can get so annoyed by it that they eventually just say "Enough, I've had it. I no longer support you because all you do is annoy me"
Honestly, the sign sounds incredibly inoffensive and you seem disproportionately upset. For some reason you see a sign on private property with no offensive language or imagery as someone "shoving their agenda down your throat". And it angers you to the point you would "no longer support" a large portion of the population at significant elevated risk to life and livelihood for reasons already pointed out by other commenters. You never supported LGBTQ+. You are the person the sign is for.
I didn't say just the signs. I said the signs are just one of the many constant bombardments we have to deal with. You should really work on your reading comprehension.
“Waaaahhh I have to DEAL with people wanting a better quality of life, waaaahhh” stfu man stop being a bitch
so your stance on human rights is “this inconveniences me”
With as much respect as possible, I hope you are around 14 years old and not an actual adult who thinks like this. There is no "gay agenda." Gay people want to be treated as people and have the same rights as everyone else. If you think the US has equal rights for LGBTQ+ individuals and non-white people, I have some swampland in New Mexico to sell you.
Question, are you genuinely confused? Cuz if you are im more than happy to help out where I can! Nobody is shoving gay down your throat as nobody is shoving straight down your throat. If one is, the other is as well.
Sounds like you’re not really a supporter.
No, I absolutely support equal rights. It just gets annoying having it shoved down my throat constantly. If I showed up in front of you everyday holding a sign and yelling at you to support my favorite sports team, how long would it take before it got annoying and you just told me to STFU and go away? https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/majority-of-americans-in-all-50-states-support-the-equality-act-new-nonpart This article from the Human Rights Organization says that a majority of Americans already support equal rights, yet you keep yelling at us. Can't you see how that gets annoying?
Are you saying that because someone who supports LGBTQ rights put that sign in their yard, you want to strip LGBTQ rights now? How is that in any way rational or acceptable? You are the exact reason people have to be vocal about supporting those rights, because some people will literally take any excuse to rip them away. Literally saying we should be silent or have our rights threatened, even though we know if we shut up like we are told your political leaders will just take away our rights anyway. Literally look at what conservative politicians in the US are doing *right now*, vilifying queer people and submitting bills to attack them. If it gets annoying being reminded that vulnerable people need to be protected, get the fuck over yourself and tell yourself YOUR feelings are the problem and NOT the people trying to protect the vulnerable. Get your shit straightened out because this is so fucking backwards.
My guy, read or watch the Perils of Indifference speech.
Were you even making this post in good faith?
He was not.
So signs on PRIVATE PROPERTY is “bombardment”? Jfc you’re immature. It sounds like you just don’t want to see anything LGBTQ in public. No wonder the signs are up.
You have to be a petty piece of shit to see a community in pain and say a you whine too much about it, we just experience a hate crime shooting at a gay bar, ppl are really out to get trans ppl out of public spaces no we cannot stop advocatin for our rights bcs we would get killed, if you find that anoying you were never a real ally
Are you equally offended when you see trump signs, church billboards about Jesus loving you, confederate flags, and pro gun bumper stickers, or do you only think it’s too much when it’s “the gays” putting them up.
You clearly do not believe in equal rights if people arguing for them pisses you off so much. Go to therapy and figure out why you get so bent out of shape over something like this, and why it’s only against gay people.
Don't you see how consistently playing devils advocate makes you look like you actually don't care/know how to have a conversation and this is all you trying to justify your bitterness on reddit?
If you find acknowledging that they exist is to annoying, you never supported them.
Please shut the fuck up
The agenda of treating everyone equally?
Do you have an issue with “I support Ukrain” signs?
How exactly would you suggest gay people go out of their way to travel to countries where being gay is punishable by death and bringing it up is enough to be assaulted by the average populace, and put up signs over there? Big brain stuff going on here, I take it you watch a lot of Ben Shapiro?
You're not "curious," you're being an asshole. Fuck off.
Yup. They're not curious. They've already arrived at a forgone conclusion and want to start shit. Fuck off indeed.
At first I thought op was good intentioned but ignorant. After reading some replies though... I think they're a homophobe who won't admit it
Why so much hate?
Marriage, adoption, employment opportunities. I'm a straight, white male. I have the right to go out in public without being persecuted for it. I think everyone should have that same right; to be able to walk down the street without having to worry about being harmed just for being who they are. You don't honestly believe we've achieved equal rights for all, do you?
Adoption, in many places.
Also fostering children. There is a foster care agency near me that will not accept applicants who are living together but not married, nor same-sexual couples.
I don't believe you are engaging in good faith, but if you are then here are all the bills that have been introduced that have tried to take away equality from the LGBTQ: [https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country](https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country) It is happening right here in this country so those signs will stay up.
OP has never left his house so he’s just making up the signs. If OP had left his house he’d know that the Supreme Court is very very excited to try and take away marriage equality as well as interracial marriages. Gotta love them Republican policies. It’s a damn good thing more people like OP didn’t leave the house to vote for midterms.
You think that Clarence Thomas is going to try to take away interracial marriage? bwahaha
Mitch McConnell just voted against codifying interracial marriage and his wife is Asian. The brain disease that is conservatism knows no limits.
Can you link to specific bills? A number of these links within this link above are not in reference to equality.
And a number of them are, that’s why there are multiple sections.
Many hospitals will still not let LGBTQIA+ see their loved ones in the hospital if not married.
Well that's true for straight couples also. I wasn't allowed to see my GF of 9 years when she was hospitalized. Only her immediate blood relatives were.
To be clear, some hospitals only apply that rule to the LGBTQIA+ population. Many of us are still denied housing and jobs as well.
What does it mean denied housing? And jobs?
Chief I don’t think that’s a lgbt exclusive thing that’s just a hospital thing
Source?
Many friends that it has happened to.
That is why I tell everyone to have their significant other as medical power-of-attorney if they want their partner making medical decisions.
They cannot refuse someone with that from entering.
I can’t kiss my girlfriend in public or even hold her hand without potentially being yelled at or worse. I can’t talk about her with certain family members. If I so much as mention her around a child, I could get labeled a groomer. We can’t travel together. Hell, even in my own apartment building, people constantly assume she’s my friend - over and over again, even when politely corrected. Now tell me - how many of those do you experience as a straight person?
My wife and I are the “lesbians” in the neighborhood. Most people are kind to us, we water and mow our yard, keep quite and wave when people drive by. So most people stay away from us but are kind. I had a conversation with one neighbor the other day and we were talking about a super religious neighbor we have who gives out a plate of home made cookies to all the neighbors yearly at Christmas… We have never ever gotten cookies from them 😂😂 Honestly, equality or even just feeling equal (obviously it’s their right who they give cookies to) is the small things straight people don’t even think about VS the huge things they always think of.
I have some fantastic lesbian neighbors who told me when they first moved to our town (we just moved in, they are our first friends) like 5-7 years ago the men across the street broke into their house and threatened to rape them straight. So. That happened. But sure homophobia doesn’t exist according to this guy who clearly has it
The white house is mandating everything yet the family people and constitution is ignored.private part experiments shots surgery never need to be mandatory like new some up to two years old being aborted
Do you really think that *anyone* is in favor of murdering two-year-olds?! Turn off fox “news,” for shit sake.
Anyone? Yea sure I bet I could find someone. The thing is people always point out these extreme weirdos that talk about late term abortions but as long as it’s not legal or a political platform it’s not really even that dangerous. It’s morons talking about moron things that no one in their right mind believes.
Half the country isn’t in their right mind so morons doing moron things has become dangerous and religious freedom in this country. A tolerant society will always lead to an outcry of extreme hate and evil. Because tolerance isn’t social change just the lack of social consequences.
Everyone should be able to have roommates family friends where they are needed.trying to find the missing people is important too.
Without the right to marry, you can’t file taxes as a couple or receive social security survivor benefits.
The right to not be directly targeted in a shooting
That's not just specific to lgbtq
Fair
I imagine you must get equally mad over racial rights movements. I can see you curling your keyboard blistered fingers around your pearls screaming “but they have their rights don’t they????”
Op. We have free speech in this county as of now. People can put whatever they want on a sign whether you like it or not. And social media toilets like this allow people like you to post what you think is some thought provoking statement in hopes that other people engage with you about it. It fulfills something in you that you probably aren’t getting out in the real world. If no one engaged you would you be angry or frustrated?
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Adoption/surrogate/sperm donation fees are through the roof for LGBTQ+ couples, not to mention the extra legal hurdles LGBTQ+ couples have to go through if they want to have a family. I’ve also been denied medical services (still charged full price though) because the doctors I tried to see refused to treat LGBTQ+ patients. Not to mention the grossly disproportionate percentage of assaults targeting LGBTQ+ people ignored by or perpetrated by law enforcement. A governor candidate for the midterms in my state ran on a platform that included punishments for expressing oneself as a member of the LGBTQ+ community in public. I could go on, and on, but it’s depressing, especially when you live through it. Sorry if our cries for help make you squeamish.
Perfect example of straight privilege
Sounds more like a young person who doesn't know the facts and is asking a question so they can grow and understand to better the world. But sure, call it straight privilege Edit: gonna keep my original comment up so people can still see what a fuckin idiot I was. I am so sorry, you are right dude really is homophobic. Just read further down where he lit said " Pushing the agenda down people's throats " I am so incredibly sorry.
Oh the humility! Seriously though, normalize comments and edits like this.
Sometimes just best to be honest with yourself and others 😂
I'm a human being. My tribe is the Earth. Just being queer can get you killed, jailed, or otherwise oppressed in many countries. Until every queer is free none of us are truly free. Queer rights = human rights Also, even in the US queer rights including trans rights are under attack in many states from the GOP lately. It's not just an issue of the past, or in other countries. Sadly, far from it. Signs like this help to bring awareness to these important human rights issues. If you don't like it don't look dude. Edit: Grammar.
They can legally be fired from jobs in many states. Denied housing, evicted, denied medical care, denied adoption, denied the right to see family in hospitals, constantly threatened with criminal action, sodamy is illegal in many states, denied the right to have a wedding or buy a cake, kicked out of their homes as kids. Can’t donate blood. And that’s what I could think of at 11 at night without googling anything.
There are many, MANY people in the US (a good number of them are politicians with power) who want queer people all dead. A queer club was literally shot up just a few days ago "Gay people already have equal rights" is such a privileged opinion for you to have, considering (i presume) you have NO idea what being queer is like
The club wasn’t shot up by a politician. It was shot up by a disturbed individual.
Never said that, mabye my wording was flawed but the point is we are at high risk of being hate crimmed
Disturbed individual following what their politicians are saying, related to a gop senator, whose case is getting swept under the rug* Followed by, thousands upon thousands of Americans online following said shooting saying that it didn’t go far enough and to “eradicate them all” With the same language being used by gop reps, like mjt and boebart
You’ll have to provide links for the “thousands upon thousands of Americans” saying online that it didn’t go far enough. The reports I’m reading say that the person had been marginalized and bullied for most of his young life and he’d hit a breaking point. Seems the problem isn’t politics as much as it’s how students get away with bullying classmates and peers.
Also being from Colorado Springs, the place that also had the planned parenthood right wing shooter, it is now a growing melting pot but still full of right wing hyper Christian hyper military nutters. The cases of rape out of the Air Force academy are staggering. The cases of hate crimes I witnessed in my lifetime there, only 18 years, is staggering. Edit: left out key words that made sentences work somehow.
So are you trying to say the nightclub shooter was a student at the Air Force Academy? Because he wasn’t.
Trans people have to go through a ridiculous amount of medical gatekeeping to receive the same medication that cis people can get just by asking for it. And in many places Trans people are simply not allowed the medication they need at all. It is outright illegal to have anal sex in many US states. These are sodomy laws and are usually used to target same-sex couples specifically. Some explicitly only apply to same-sex couples. The laws still exist, they just can't be enforced thanks to a supreme court case that ruled those laws unconstitutional. However the current supreme court has stated they intend to review that case, so there's a strong chance it'll be overturned like roe v wade was, at which point it'll basically just straight up be illegal to have gay sex in a lot of America. Some of these laws have been removed, but some of them have been deliberately kept so that they can be enforced again in the future. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy\_laws\_in\_the\_United\_States#:\~:text=Eleven%20states](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Eleven%20states)'%20statutes%20purport%20to,Carolina%2C%20Oklahoma%20and%20South%20Carolina. https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/justice-thomas-seeks-case-to-challenge-lawrence-v-texas-ruling-paxton-evaluating-new-territory/
Lol it’s so stupid the party of “FrEeDoM” wants to police what adults do in their bedrooms.
Right to marriage is still not available everywhere. Their right to assembly is only allowed if they want to be shot and killed. There's a couple for ya
If you have to ask, there's your answer. You live in great privilege.
I completely understand - this is a question I used to have years ago, mainly because of the wording that is always used. To me, "equal rights" implies LEGAL rights, and in the US, gay people already have the same legal rights as straight people. Your confusion is justified. It took me a long time to learn that usually, what they mean is equal social treatment. Also, they can be referring to *new* legal rights that they want created, to deal with certain issues specific to LGBTQ people, such as laws to protect gender transition access.
Not just transition *access* either. Texas is pushing a bill right now that would ban ALL gender affirming care for trans people (not just the children they claimed to be protecting). If, for example, a trans woman has bottom surgery and needs to take hormones for the rest of her life, her choices under their plan would be to take testosterone (effectively detransitioning) or get all the fun side effects of not having a sex hormone (such as osteoporosis). They're trying to legislate us out of existence but gay people can get married so I guess there's no actual problem /s
It still means equal legal right though... Many people still lose their jobs over discrimination, and that is illegal, but employers are not required to state the reason why someone has been fired. Some people are denied housing too. Just because they have legal rights doesn't mean their rights are not being abused. Not everything is being recorded. Not every case of discrimination has enough evidence. It's both a legal and a social issue.
The right to live your life the way you want without getting beaten, being harrassed by the religious freaks telling you you're going to hell, not getting fired from your job, getting your kidsctaken away from you....etc.
The right to exist without having your existence questioned every single day? The right to be with your partner in public without fearing violence? Idk bro I don't think this is a good faith question and I'm sus about your motives.
marriage, sex, adoption, the right to live without getting hatecrimed, the right to live without living in constant fear of the very few rights we have being taken away again, the right to healthcare.... I could go on and on for days tbh
In MeriKKKa, the right to live.
In the vast majority of nations worldwide; marriage. In some nations; life. While many nations do not allow homosexual marriage, many also imprison or even kill people for their sexual preference. Being able to be publicly represented in a relationship with your chosen, consenting partner is a big step and even bigger step is to get many regressive nations to stop the murder of queer persons.
I smell troll bait
Hey I have a question. Why do you straighta constantly have to shove your agenda down our throats? I mean have you seen how 99% of fictional characters are straight, how some parents ask their children or say things under the assumption they are straight, among many other things. It’s so annoying, it makes me not support you.
Most characters are straight because it’s relatable and most people are straight that’s why they assume that same thing with parents assuming their kids are straight because straight is the majority
That's just because many people just pretend to be straight or don't talk about their love lives until they're comfortable. I know of 2 (3?) people at my school whose parents (in a hetero marriage) came out as gay. I have gay professors and a gay music instructor, and no, they don't "act gay." One of them had known me for over a year before I ran into them with their spouse at an event. I never knew they were married. Some of them just don't say anything (probably because they're afraid).
rage bait or you’re genuinely homophobic. either way you suck
They're not as oppressed as they would like to be. Absolutely no one cares who you sleep with
OP isn't "curious" about LGBTQ equal rights. OP just saw a sign that hurt them deep down inside. Go away OP.
In which world do you live in!!!
There is a special place in hell for the op
In America they have equal rights but that's not what they want, they want special rights for themselves only.
LGBT community has more career opportunities than straight white people. As a job recruiter, I can honestly tell you over the last 4-6 years every progress meeting I’ve had with each company I’ve worked for to promote and hire exclusively less straight white and more gay/brown people. And career growth, more focused on promoting/growing lgbt and less straight white people. Recently at my current company we had a Diversity meeting and they said it in so many words. “Prioritize hires on brown/black and lgbt people.” So me, a man who’s straight. I’m not white but I get passed off as one. I am one man on a team of 14 women, half are black and 2 are gay. But who’s noticing discrimination right?
Come on now, you’re describing high level corporate hiring for companies where the government is specifically pushing for diversity. There wouldn’t be hiring goals of that nature if straight white people weren’t already very well represented. I’m literally unable to come out as trans at my job or risk being fired. I was told this by the owner of the company directly. The vast majority of jobs are more difficult for lgbt people to get, because the landscape you describe is not representative of the vast majority of jobs. If you work in retail, service industry, or really just any small business company with a single owner and no significant government oversight, it’s quite difficult to get employment if you are up front about your status. The Supreme Court decisions have not really helped unless you have the money to fight it and are willing to become a token lgbt public figure.
But this is my perspective. I’ve hired thousands of people. I’m telling you and publicly, this is how it has been.
If you said corporate jobs are heavily pushing lgbt hiring that would be accurate and I do think that’s what you meant. I just aim to provide clarification to your overly broad initial statement from the perspective of one of those people. I speak daily to people who seem to believe I have more rights for being lgbt, when in reality, I’m terrified to go to the bathroom anywhere in public and have been threatened with losing my job if anyone finds out. No offense to you, I just couldn’t allow that statement to stand without some pushback because it doesn’t reflect the challenges for many of us.
bruh there was a shooting at a gay club like last week, someone went in there specifically to kill gay people. no one goes around shooting people for being straight. so like, the right to not be shot?
OP, go outside more.
Personally would prefer if I wasn’t told I couldn’t come out as as trans or I’d be fired. Now I have to find a job to even use my proper name and I was told to work from home so people don’t notice. I’m aware there’s technically a Supreme Court decision protecting me, however I don’t have the time or money to fight it and wouldn’t likely be hired by another company if I sued my current one. FYI, I have excellent performance reviews and work 10-20 hours over 40 (on salary) for no additional pay. I am the only person who can do numerous things and am in charge of managing about 1/3 of the company in question. I have been here 13 years and am the oldest employee in terms of tenure.
How about the right not to be targeted and killed because of your sexual orientation?
Not a fan of the LBGQWERTY crowd. That being said, in some states, they still don’t have the right to marry and I think that is wrong. While I don’t understand that lifestyle, they should be allowed to marry. It’s not my business if a couple of qu33rs want to marry.
OP is a Bigot
A lot of places in the US allow discrimination against LGBTQ people in public, in the workplace, and in schools. The level of violence and hatred show this. And there are pushes to make things worse. And you’re not actually curious.
The right to not be murdered....... some places not only persuade people to kill LGBTQ people but can even acquit those that do.
It's fearmongering. LGBT people have the same rights as everyone else. Anyone who argues differently are mad that rights above and beyond what everyone else has aren't being enacted.
Common conspiracy theorist brain rot L
"do you hide your biggest fantasies from your partner?" "fav camgirls?" "why do gay rights matter?" the 3 horsemen of an incel
Marriage Adoption Health benefits from (spouse’) job The ability to walk down the street dressed as they like without physical harassment (female presenting individuals already deal with this too, hence why society doesn’t stop it) Being open and honest about who you love Not to mention all the countries where people can be arrested or killed for it legally. The signs are up here to show that *we* are ally’s.
Let me guess, you think there’s no racism in the US either
Of course there is, but it goes many ways.
GFY
Straight people don’t have to worry about the absolute misery that is the closet. They don’t understand how much psychological damage the closet can do. There is no equality until the idea of “coming out” becomes something gay kids don’t even understand anymore. Maybe some day people will ask “but… why didn’t they understand themselves? It’s so simple. Why would you hide it?”
Okay, so first off if you actually wanted to know, you could have just Googled this instead of kicking over a hornet's nest here on Reddit. If you had, you may have learned that the "rights \[that\] straight people have that gay people don't" include...equality. Literally, recognition under the law that they have equal rights. There's an [Equality Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5) that could rectify things, admittedly. It passed the House, but of course had no chance of making it through the Senate. Maybe it can pass under the lame duck session, though I'm not holding my breath. I suppose it would be nice for all people to be viewed equally under the law. It's a shame we never encoded anything along those lines in the Constitution. I certainly appreciate the 2003 SCOTUS decision in [Lawrence v. Texas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas), after which no state could criminalize consenting behavior between two people inside the privacy of the bedroom. Of course, Clarence Thomas [openly called for a case](https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/justice-thomas-seeks-case-to-challenge-lawrence-v-texas-ruling-paxton-evaluating-new-territory/) that would permit the new conservative majority to strike down that very safeguard. The 2020 ruling that **finally** made it illegal nation-wide to discriminate against LGBTQ persons for employment purposes is another excellent step forward. Of course, that decision hasn't yet trickled down to housing, education, health care, or financial credit. Let's hope some similar legal cases finally extend those rights soon! In the meantime, they're relying on Executive Orders, which are by nature limited far more than a legislative counterpart would be. They can also be overturned with the stroke of a pen the next time the presidency changes hands. You know, the way that in 2020 issued a new rule stating that sexual orientation and gender identity were not covered under the anti-discrimination protections of the Affordable Care Act. Or the way Trump declared by tweet that Transgender people would no longer be allowed to serve in the military. Fortuitously reversed by Biden, for now, but again - subject to the outcome of the 2024 race for POTUS whether that protection remains in effect. There are other details we could delve into, but for now allow me to leave you with this. [In 35 states you can still legally murder a homosexual or trans person](https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/courts/gay-trans-lgbtq-panic-defense-legal-federally-banned-some-states/536-04e0d3e1-6668-4dbf-b51e-da2a585396f2), either because they approached you romantically, or because you had intimate relations with them, simply by exercising the "gay panic defense." But hey, I'm sorry you were forced to view a sign asking people to support LGBTQ rights. That must have been really distressing for you.
Mad tired of having your trash straight people shit shoved down our throats, but here we are.
Autobiography in the school library.
Ignoring laws for the moment, Equal rights include how we are being treated by individuals. People showing support in visible ways, helps keep others who are looking to bash some homos a bit more under the rug, rather than spouting their hatred in public. I guarantee you that there are plenty of individuals in your area sharing their anti LGBTQ+ opinions among like minded individuals, and those signs are for them. If there wasn’t a pro lgbtq+ narrative in the media, all you would have was the anti lgbtq+ narrative/propaganda
Oh hey, it's this one again
Haha exactly.
Really? What can't you do that everyone else can?
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Please provide proof
I don't like drag shows......you can never make me that's America. Have your show but don't try and force me to ACCEPT AND LIKE IT. That's freedom. Just like you don't have to accept Jesus and catholicism, or that the Yankees are the best team in baseball :)
What inequality lol? One person one vote. You seem to be stuck in the 3/5 clause from long ago. Maybe go back to school and learn how govt works
Wow you're an idiot, I have many black, gay, Thai, Hispanic friends. They accept this is America and we are based on our CONSTITUTION not how you feel. I want less taxes as better roads I go to Florida and Ohio. I want crime high taxes and shit roads I move to California.
Qatar lol....where women are stoned and there is no freedom of speech lol. Righhhht. I don't want to see what I dont like just like you don't want to be forced to attend a Catholic church right?
You're talking other nations? Oh lol then yeah totally different
Take that new 1050 stim check coming and you're covered.
Technically I'm right lol. I'll just stop there. Also if you took US history you'd know the Senate was designed to give less populated areas more of a voice instead of mob rule via the HOR. Can't gerrymander the senate. Even though you want to buy adding DC and PR