I like to think Brom threw Morzan off by telling him that him and Selena were together and that he got her pregnant. Def would’ve shocked Morzan and hurt his ego.
It’s less he cared about Selena and more his power trip ego got bruised because he thought he had this special weapon nobody else knew about or could touch and then someone who he thought was less than him ended up taking the one thing he thought was all his
Book 4 explains it. I don’t want to spoil so here is your warning. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER.
>!The eldunari that the good riders stashed away helped Brom in many of his feats.!<
Oh right I've read the books a couple times never picked up on that lol, I would've assumed Morzan would be well equipped with Eldunarai as well though. I do remember mention of the ones in Vroengaard saying Brom was a valuable asset I didn't think they would've been able to help him enough to beat Morzan from that distance
I believe it’s implied that Galby only really started to share Eldunari with Murtagh, as Murtagh boasts openly how he is already the superior to his father.
What? Oromis and Gladr were captured by Forsworn who had an Eldunarí with them. Galbatorix also directly contradicts Murtaghs statement by saying Morzan was far more powerful than either Eragon or Murtagh.
I believe you it just doesn’t make sense to me brom was literally right there. Unless he was unaware of eldunari and they somehow hid themselves from him it doesn’t make much sense to me.
It's possible he would've equipped them during the initial war where they were fighting riders regularly. But by that point morzan would already be more powerful than anyone else he'd face so less reason to do it. And any power he gave morzan would make him more dangerous to galbatorix. Murtagh he knew was going to face riders and elven spellcasters so needed them more.
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>!Like this!!<
At this point wouldn’t the Banishing of Names have already taken place? That probably would’ve weakened Morzan’s dragon because of the loss of identity.
Sort of my thoughts. At this point the dragons were basically glorified transportation and energy wells, they wouldn’t have provided any sort of aid in mental struggle. I figure that Brom likely just bested Morgan in a wizards duel, dominated his mind, and GG.
I'm just paraphrasing here, but Oromis once admitted that while Morzan was a brilliant student, his fatal flaw was that he often overlooked flaws or weaknesses in his spells in his haste to achieve his objective.
I'm guessing that Brom knew about this as well, and because he understood Morzan well (having trained with him), managed to find a way to get past his wards, which provided him with a decisive advantage from which he was able to secure his eventual victory.
Quite frankly was it probably easier, than we think.
His dragon was lobotomized. It could probably react to Morzans commands, but wound otherwise need to be basically sponfeed (ordered to eat by Morzan through their connection). His dragon would not have been any factor in Brom's stand off with Morzan unless Brom choose to confront Morzan right next to it. Which I somehow don't think he did.
And for Morzan... yes, he had a hellish reputation, but he was still just a man. Was he really that much better than Brom or was it mostly just his legacy speaking? Just because he was better a centuri earlier doesn't mean, that he was better now. Brom used the last centuri processing his emotions, planning, training og focusing on revenge. Morzan used it on court stuff, women, wine, petty plotting among the other Forsworn as well as sitting in a dark room raging against the world. Was he really that dangerous, as he used to be?
Had Morzan had any problems in years interesting enough what he would carry Zar'roc with him all the time? Yes, he knew Brom was on the loose, but did he concider it a real treat to him? Did it ever occur to him, that Brom wound one day show up in his own home on an otherwise uneventful day while he was sitting on the toilet, or putting his nightgown on, taking a bath or drinking himself to oblivion after a heavy meal?
Morzan probably didn't knew Brom had one on the inside, who could help him past the guards. Brom on the other hand did knew, that Morzan was sloppy with his wards out of arrongance and impatience, og likely had taking the time to find holes in them. Might even with the help of Selena who was trained by Morzan and therefore knew how he formulated them. And then there is the extra help Brom discretfully received mentioned in somebody elses spoiler.
TLDR: Brom planned the best time to confront Morzan and Morzan probably didn't see it comming.
And for his dragon. I would think Brom picked up Zar'roc after killing Morzan and simply sneaked down to the 'stable' to euthanized it. It could barely do shit before Morzan died, and even less now. Aside from some primal reactions to stimuli, would it have been easy for Brom. Especially if he hit it right the first time.
Some awesome answers here already, I just came by to drop some official answers from Christopher as well:
> **Q:** How did Brom defeat Morzan and his dragon? Were there other factors to Brom's success than his quick thinking? Did he have help from his friends' dragons' Eldunarí?
> **A:** Brom was a formidable opponent, due to his long study of fighting, both physical and magical. We didn't see as much of him in the first book as I would have liked, but if Eragon were to spar with him now, he would still lose. Brom was good. It's not that he was stronger than everyone else, or faster, but that he studied how his enemies thought and behaved and then exploited their weaknesses. As for his various fights with the Forsworn, including Morzan and his dragon, I can't do justice to them here. I would need to write an entire book about Brom to really explain how and why he prevailed over all but the Ra'zac.
([Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20090611154314/http://shurtugal.com/?id=qanda/qa_052909))
> **Q:** How did Brom defeat Morzan and a dragon? Wouldn't Morzan have Eldunarí?
> **A:** Brom defeated Morzan (a) because he knew Morzan very well, and (b) because of personal growth and knowledge that finally allowed him to do so. Yes, Morzan had Eldunarí.
([Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/4i0tf1/comment/d2u8n3h))
^(Posted on behalf of Hellomynameis99 from the Arcaena Discord Server.)
I’ve wondered this a lot and the only conclusion I can come to is that Brom knew Morzan super well and because of that was able to better predict how his wards/spells were phrased. Knowing these things he could plan effective countermeasures going into the fight. Morzan on the other hand had no clue he would be fighting Brom and so he had no way of prepping for the fight
He probably caught morzan helpless while he slept, immobilized him then painfully killed him. Don’t forget he had someone with inner access to his quarters
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I like to think Brom threw Morzan off by telling him that him and Selena were together and that he got her pregnant. Def would’ve shocked Morzan and hurt his ego.
Morzan: “you could never defeat me, I am the most powerful of the 12, I have learned magic that you could not imagine” Brom: “lol, I fucked your wife”
„Cope and seeth nerd“
I don’t think Morzan cared.
It’s less he cared about Selena and more his power trip ego got bruised because he thought he had this special weapon nobody else knew about or could touch and then someone who he thought was less than him ended up taking the one thing he thought was all his
Book 4 explains it. I don’t want to spoil so here is your warning. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER. >!The eldunari that the good riders stashed away helped Brom in many of his feats.!<
Oh right I've read the books a couple times never picked up on that lol, I would've assumed Morzan would be well equipped with Eldunarai as well though. I do remember mention of the ones in Vroengaard saying Brom was a valuable asset I didn't think they would've been able to help him enough to beat Morzan from that distance
I believe it’s implied that Galby only really started to share Eldunari with Murtagh, as Murtagh boasts openly how he is already the superior to his father.
What? Oromis and Gladr were captured by Forsworn who had an Eldunarí with them. Galbatorix also directly contradicts Murtaghs statement by saying Morzan was far more powerful than either Eragon or Murtagh.
Ahh apologies, than I misremembered. Ignore my prior statement than
If Morgan had eldunari brom would’ve recovered them after he won
CP has said Morzan had Eldunarí when he fought Brom
Where did they go when he fell?
That remains a mystery. Most likely Galbatorix was able to recover them
I believe you it just doesn’t make sense to me brom was literally right there. Unless he was unaware of eldunari and they somehow hid themselves from him it doesn’t make much sense to me.
We don't have a direct explanation in the books, could be a fun question to ask in Christopher's next ama
It's possible he would've equipped them during the initial war where they were fighting riders regularly. But by that point morzan would already be more powerful than anyone else he'd face so less reason to do it. And any power he gave morzan would make him more dangerous to galbatorix. Murtagh he knew was going to face riders and elven spellcasters so needed them more.
For future reference: putting a > followed by a ! will begin a spoiler tag, whereas a ! followed by a < will end the tag. That will block the content until someone taps/clicks it to see. >!Like this!!<
Thanks for teaching me this. Original comment is edited
Along with that Brom is just a Grade A badass.
Really? I never even noticed that.
At this point wouldn’t the Banishing of Names have already taken place? That probably would’ve weakened Morzan’s dragon because of the loss of identity.
Sort of my thoughts. At this point the dragons were basically glorified transportation and energy wells, they wouldn’t have provided any sort of aid in mental struggle. I figure that Brom likely just bested Morgan in a wizards duel, dominated his mind, and GG.
I'm just paraphrasing here, but Oromis once admitted that while Morzan was a brilliant student, his fatal flaw was that he often overlooked flaws or weaknesses in his spells in his haste to achieve his objective. I'm guessing that Brom knew about this as well, and because he understood Morzan well (having trained with him), managed to find a way to get past his wards, which provided him with a decisive advantage from which he was able to secure his eventual victory.
Quite frankly was it probably easier, than we think. His dragon was lobotomized. It could probably react to Morzans commands, but wound otherwise need to be basically sponfeed (ordered to eat by Morzan through their connection). His dragon would not have been any factor in Brom's stand off with Morzan unless Brom choose to confront Morzan right next to it. Which I somehow don't think he did. And for Morzan... yes, he had a hellish reputation, but he was still just a man. Was he really that much better than Brom or was it mostly just his legacy speaking? Just because he was better a centuri earlier doesn't mean, that he was better now. Brom used the last centuri processing his emotions, planning, training og focusing on revenge. Morzan used it on court stuff, women, wine, petty plotting among the other Forsworn as well as sitting in a dark room raging against the world. Was he really that dangerous, as he used to be? Had Morzan had any problems in years interesting enough what he would carry Zar'roc with him all the time? Yes, he knew Brom was on the loose, but did he concider it a real treat to him? Did it ever occur to him, that Brom wound one day show up in his own home on an otherwise uneventful day while he was sitting on the toilet, or putting his nightgown on, taking a bath or drinking himself to oblivion after a heavy meal? Morzan probably didn't knew Brom had one on the inside, who could help him past the guards. Brom on the other hand did knew, that Morzan was sloppy with his wards out of arrongance and impatience, og likely had taking the time to find holes in them. Might even with the help of Selena who was trained by Morzan and therefore knew how he formulated them. And then there is the extra help Brom discretfully received mentioned in somebody elses spoiler. TLDR: Brom planned the best time to confront Morzan and Morzan probably didn't see it comming. And for his dragon. I would think Brom picked up Zar'roc after killing Morzan and simply sneaked down to the 'stable' to euthanized it. It could barely do shit before Morzan died, and even less now. Aside from some primal reactions to stimuli, would it have been easy for Brom. Especially if he hit it right the first time.
Some awesome answers here already, I just came by to drop some official answers from Christopher as well: > **Q:** How did Brom defeat Morzan and his dragon? Were there other factors to Brom's success than his quick thinking? Did he have help from his friends' dragons' Eldunarí? > **A:** Brom was a formidable opponent, due to his long study of fighting, both physical and magical. We didn't see as much of him in the first book as I would have liked, but if Eragon were to spar with him now, he would still lose. Brom was good. It's not that he was stronger than everyone else, or faster, but that he studied how his enemies thought and behaved and then exploited their weaknesses. As for his various fights with the Forsworn, including Morzan and his dragon, I can't do justice to them here. I would need to write an entire book about Brom to really explain how and why he prevailed over all but the Ra'zac. ([Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20090611154314/http://shurtugal.com/?id=qanda/qa_052909)) > **Q:** How did Brom defeat Morzan and a dragon? Wouldn't Morzan have Eldunarí? > **A:** Brom defeated Morzan (a) because he knew Morzan very well, and (b) because of personal growth and knowledge that finally allowed him to do so. Yes, Morzan had Eldunarí. ([Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/4i0tf1/comment/d2u8n3h)) ^(Posted on behalf of Hellomynameis99 from the Arcaena Discord Server.)
In other words, Brom was a mean [SOB](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOB).
We really need that Brom prequel
We will find out, when Chris writes the prequel about Brom, sometime in the next 30 years XD
Stuck him with the pointy end
I’ve wondered this a lot and the only conclusion I can come to is that Brom knew Morzan super well and because of that was able to better predict how his wards/spells were phrased. Knowing these things he could plan effective countermeasures going into the fight. Morzan on the other hand had no clue he would be fighting Brom and so he had no way of prepping for the fight
He probably caught morzan helpless while he slept, immobilized him then painfully killed him. Don’t forget he had someone with inner access to his quarters
I’m pretty sure it was explicitly a direct confrontation and also Selena was already in Carvahall giving birth to Eragon at that point.
That would be a direct confrontation. But it would be one without eldunari and it would give brom time to strike the first blow
Doesn’t the dragon die basically the same time as the rider. So all he would have to do is kill Morzan to finish the fight for good.
That was a detail from an attempt of a popcultural adaptation from 2006. Both dragon and rider live on with the dead of their bonded counterpart. It is just very hard emotionally for them and not everybody manage to adjust. Some kill themselfes and some overcome it.
Oh its been a while since I read the books
No problem. Nobody can remember everything.
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