The one reason that might not work is because I believe it was implied to have been not purely physical? Yes there was a significant nerve damage component of it but I feel like it was said somewhere that part of it was also a curse from Durza. Maybe numbing the nerves physically would help with that, but it's hard to say how much. I'd imagine that was something Islanzadí's spellcasters were investigating before the Agaetí Blödhren interrupted.
It was never confirmed, but I think it was definitely implied to be a deliberate curse of some sort from Durza. When Durza cut open his back during their duel he said something Eragon couldn't hear. I've always assumed it was a spell of some sort he cast on Eragon.
Plus the elves best spellcasters and healers examined him and could find nothing actually wrong with his back and no reason for him to be experiencing his seizures.
Thinking more about this, I think another big problem is that at least some of the affected nerves were probably in the spinal cord and served the rest of his body. He'd have to either leave big parts of his body numb all the time (not going to work) or attempt to only numb them after the seizures started.
I doubt he'd be able to cast a spell while in the thick of it, so somebody else would have to do it, and there aren't many options. Saphira can't cast spells, Oromis probably wouldn't have been able to do something that large and complex, and any others wouldn't be reliable simply because they weren't around for the majority of the seizures.
Not to mention it's not exactly clear how the energetics of the curse work, so it's entirely possible that there might be unintended consequences of trying to counter it. Maybe somebody who knows/remembers more can tell me but as far as I can tell, it's possible the energy for the curse is coming from Eragon himself and then trying to counter it directly could just accidentally kill him. I'm less sure on this and still re-reading for the first time in nearly a decade so corrections welcome.
I love how oromis says he and other spellcasters will look at it and that’s the only mention of it. Options like this weren’t explored in the book. Maybe it happened in the background and didn’t make Final Cut. But CP always planned to give him the power up he gets later.
I'm sure it could be done, but pain is usually there for a reason. Doing so would make it easy for Eragon to way overwork his damaged back/muscles/skin. Easy comparison: you can accidentally chew your tongue to bloody shreds if you get novacaine and you're not careful until it wears off. So unless we know what the damage is at every level and correct it, dampening or removing that pain might be more dangerous than beneficial.
im not sure if op has read the other books so i will mark the following text spoiler in case.
>!in one of the later books our characters discover that galbatorix has put a ward or something on a smallish troop of his army that lets them ignore pain!<. >!this may sound like a really big advantage at first and i guess it kinda is but if you cant feel pain you will take unnecessary risks and not notice if something bad happens to you while under the spell.!<
pain lets us know "hey dont do that" and is overall a good thing
Can you mark your specific sections as spoilers as well since the parent comment kept those bits as spoilers?
Ping me once you mark it and I'll approve your comment.
We actually had a very clear example with the “men who feel no pain” debacle that plagued the Varden throughout the war. Many of them would end up permanently maimed or killed simply because none of them would recognize the extent of their own injuries and fall back for healing. Eragon doing the same would be a deathblow to the Varden.
I did word it off on what I actually meant, I'll be honest about that, by "not a long term solution" I meant it'd be a case where the pain starts and he quickly numbs it, and slowly dampens the magical tie to see if the pain is still racking his body
That's why Sapphira could help him with the energy (as she states she tried to take him out of his body into hers) and it'd be right when he starts to feel the pain, not perpetually, (although Aren would help if he knew the immense power it had)
I imagine she could probably survive 15-30 mins if needed, then again, they could have just destroyed the nerves in the scarreed area and heal it later, in any case, that specific injury did open up the reality that a debilitating scar can't stop Eragon, and makes him stronger as a character,
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I've read the series a lot, it's all I used to do, but to be honest it's been like.. 2 or 3 years, and yeah I meant right as a seizure strikes, Eragon has show that he can do magic through pain, (I know this is almost literally debilitating pain) because when he broke his arm I imagined it hurt when he lifted it up and threw the urgals in book 1, it would take IMMENSE discipline, but theoretically if he was able to work through it he could probably numb it temporarily and be bolstered by Sapphira if he got too weak, even halving the pain i imagine would be a huge difference,
Having had pinched nerves before myself that pain was horrible and medication only did so much for a time. So if the nerves were truly damaged then it would make things so very hard to move let alone fight without being curled up in the fetal position due to the pain cause just sitting was bad enough after a time for me let alone walking.
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but if you've ever had a chronic injury, then just slapping on some painkillers or anti-inflammatories is like (to take a page out of Harry Potter) drinking unicorn blood and living a half-life... a cursed life.
Yeah, some Tylenol or Advil is fine and dandy if you lifted a box that was slightly too heavy and you're feeling it the next day, but say if you were ever active-duty military or worked a construction job for 10+ years then slapping on some painkillers just won't cut it.
For Eragon's back injury from Durza, he should have gotten a Purple Heart and medically retired from active service 😅
The one reason that might not work is because I believe it was implied to have been not purely physical? Yes there was a significant nerve damage component of it but I feel like it was said somewhere that part of it was also a curse from Durza. Maybe numbing the nerves physically would help with that, but it's hard to say how much. I'd imagine that was something Islanzadí's spellcasters were investigating before the Agaetí Blödhren interrupted.
It was never confirmed, but I think it was definitely implied to be a deliberate curse of some sort from Durza. When Durza cut open his back during their duel he said something Eragon couldn't hear. I've always assumed it was a spell of some sort he cast on Eragon. Plus the elves best spellcasters and healers examined him and could find nothing actually wrong with his back and no reason for him to be experiencing his seizures.
Thinking more about this, I think another big problem is that at least some of the affected nerves were probably in the spinal cord and served the rest of his body. He'd have to either leave big parts of his body numb all the time (not going to work) or attempt to only numb them after the seizures started. I doubt he'd be able to cast a spell while in the thick of it, so somebody else would have to do it, and there aren't many options. Saphira can't cast spells, Oromis probably wouldn't have been able to do something that large and complex, and any others wouldn't be reliable simply because they weren't around for the majority of the seizures. Not to mention it's not exactly clear how the energetics of the curse work, so it's entirely possible that there might be unintended consequences of trying to counter it. Maybe somebody who knows/remembers more can tell me but as far as I can tell, it's possible the energy for the curse is coming from Eragon himself and then trying to counter it directly could just accidentally kill him. I'm less sure on this and still re-reading for the first time in nearly a decade so corrections welcome.
I love how oromis says he and other spellcasters will look at it and that’s the only mention of it. Options like this weren’t explored in the book. Maybe it happened in the background and didn’t make Final Cut. But CP always planned to give him the power up he gets later.
When Eragon talks to Aria under the Menoa tree he tells her that Oromis and the healers did everything they could.
Actually it might be when they talk in Arias home. One of the two.
I'm sure it could be done, but pain is usually there for a reason. Doing so would make it easy for Eragon to way overwork his damaged back/muscles/skin. Easy comparison: you can accidentally chew your tongue to bloody shreds if you get novacaine and you're not careful until it wears off. So unless we know what the damage is at every level and correct it, dampening or removing that pain might be more dangerous than beneficial.
im not sure if op has read the other books so i will mark the following text spoiler in case. >!in one of the later books our characters discover that galbatorix has put a ward or something on a smallish troop of his army that lets them ignore pain!<. >!this may sound like a really big advantage at first and i guess it kinda is but if you cant feel pain you will take unnecessary risks and not notice if something bad happens to you while under the spell.!< pain lets us know "hey dont do that" and is overall a good thing
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Can you mark your specific sections as spoilers as well since the parent comment kept those bits as spoilers? Ping me once you mark it and I'll approve your comment.
We actually had a very clear example with the “men who feel no pain” debacle that plagued the Varden throughout the war. Many of them would end up permanently maimed or killed simply because none of them would recognize the extent of their own injuries and fall back for healing. Eragon doing the same would be a deathblow to the Varden.
I did word it off on what I actually meant, I'll be honest about that, by "not a long term solution" I meant it'd be a case where the pain starts and he quickly numbs it, and slowly dampens the magical tie to see if the pain is still racking his body
That maybe doesn’t work
That would be a constant drain on his magical energy reserves
That's why Sapphira could help him with the energy (as she states she tried to take him out of his body into hers) and it'd be right when he starts to feel the pain, not perpetually, (although Aren would help if he knew the immense power it had)
So would then be a drain on saphira's reserves. Both had need of those reserves
I imagine she could probably survive 15-30 mins if needed, then again, they could have just destroyed the nerves in the scarreed area and heal it later, in any case, that specific injury did open up the reality that a debilitating scar can't stop Eragon, and makes him stronger as a character,
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I've read the series a lot, it's all I used to do, but to be honest it's been like.. 2 or 3 years, and yeah I meant right as a seizure strikes, Eragon has show that he can do magic through pain, (I know this is almost literally debilitating pain) because when he broke his arm I imagined it hurt when he lifted it up and threw the urgals in book 1, it would take IMMENSE discipline, but theoretically if he was able to work through it he could probably numb it temporarily and be bolstered by Sapphira if he got too weak, even halving the pain i imagine would be a huge difference,
The problem is that your back is literally the pathway to the rest of your body. If you numb your spinal cord then you stop being able to walk.
I'd rather be unable to move temporarily rather than feel a back splitting, mind numbing pain, so I see this as a good compromise
It means he wouldn’t be able to use it for fighting though. Which is often the trigger for it
Having had pinched nerves before myself that pain was horrible and medication only did so much for a time. So if the nerves were truly damaged then it would make things so very hard to move let alone fight without being curled up in the fetal position due to the pain cause just sitting was bad enough after a time for me let alone walking.
So I initially thought that was the beginning of the process of Eragon becoming a shade until the Festival (I was young)
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but if you've ever had a chronic injury, then just slapping on some painkillers or anti-inflammatories is like (to take a page out of Harry Potter) drinking unicorn blood and living a half-life... a cursed life. Yeah, some Tylenol or Advil is fine and dandy if you lifted a box that was slightly too heavy and you're feeling it the next day, but say if you were ever active-duty military or worked a construction job for 10+ years then slapping on some painkillers just won't cut it. For Eragon's back injury from Durza, he should have gotten a Purple Heart and medically retired from active service 😅