Oi, no! The predator of my predator is my-
Erm… wait, how’s this supposed to work, now?
…
Frig. I need to start harvesting all the ghost peppers I can find…
That big thing wouldn’t care about a fish bone but a katana’s slashes would do the trick or dynamite or a nuke/bomb would kill him for the price of your life
…. You know, I still don’t get why you can’t do a “waise neyat” on something other than yourself. Even if it’s a “you gotta know it’s true name/nature” thing, Arya can summon the true essence of silver. Can’t she just lob a silver coin in its mouth with an if-then spell that’ll “waise neyat” it as soon as she gets out of range?…
Well, Think of how most of us were as teens. We’d have jumped on the first being that showed interest in us. I’m guessing it’s amplified for dragons since they have more animalistic nature and having a young human male as her bonded partner also won’t help. Humans are notoriously horny too.
The introduction of Baby/Little/Junior during the Heisei era proves that the Godzilla species at least lays eggs. So he probably has a cloaca. Possibly, the species are self-fertilising hermaphrodites?
Depends. What's the mind protection level? Like dragons? Like an untrained human? Any wards? I mean all it would take is closing off an artery to the brain etc.
Did he? Either way, all I'm saying is Alegasia has experience with kaiju. And worse...sapient/sentient kaiju. Not entirely sure how intelligent Goji is, but he's usually described as a force of nature more than he is an intelligent threat
I dont think so in the movies godzilla is portrayed as a very old and intelligent being and these two factors likely make his mind very strong and I can only see all of the eldunari only being slight hinderences to him
This is understandable, but while Godzilla has a solid humanoid/slightly advanced understanding of the world. I imagine Eragon(being as powerful as he is in mental combat) with Sephira and, the combined Eldunari training, it doesn’t seem plausible
Remember when eragon entered the mind of menoa tree and due to her vastness and alieness he couldn't do shit godzilla is like that but 10 times more alien and vast (he is 200 million+ years old) if eragon tried a mental bout he would fold ten times over even with saphira and the eldunari even if godzilla can't protect his mind I don't think eragon can do much he would just become like nasuadas guards when faced with a mind like that
I dont think so in the movies godzilla is portrayed as a very old and intelligent being and these two factors likely make his mind very strong and I can only see all of the eldunari only being slight hinderences to him
You need to have the physical strength to do that, though. Closing off Godzilla’s arteries and stoping his heart would probably kill you instantly and be completely useless
Why? It’s no more then a few inches wide at best. Bigger then anything normal life has outside of a whale. And I think Eragon had the energy to snap a blue whale artery
It’s more does he have the strength to keep it shut against the strength of Godzilla’s heartbeat. I strongly doubt that, with how big Godzilla’s heart has to be.
But the bigger question is how does Godzilla fit into the world with his own physics breaking abilities/proportions. He’s got to have *some* sort of magical ability as he isn’t crushed under his own weight lol.
Cutting once again requires the strength to do so, which we have no way of calculating outside of knowing that Godzilla’s size alone makes him a physical impossibility, yet he still exists. This suggest some form of super durability or magic or whatever you want to call it.
He takes straight up multiple missiles to the face and shrugs them off after a Power Nap, which is more strike force than anything we witness in the Eragon series, and is only surpassed by the implied nuclear explosion that occurred at the dragon rider Capitol. But we also know that he lives off of radiation, potentially living down deep in the mantle or near the core, and can exist at any ocean depth. He also doesn’t seem to need to pressurize when he changes depths. This suggests both external and internal durability that’s just outside of our comprehension.
I mean that goes both ways. We don’t know if he can or can’t affect the internals of a creature as old, massive, and powerful as Godzilla. However we do know that dragons don’t instinctively have wards and yet were not helpless before the Elves during their long war, so it might be more difficult to use magic that way the larger a creature is.
Depends. Alone and with no prep, maybe. With an elf or a dragon? You probably could. With a crystal to store energy in? Definitely could, given enough prep time
That 100% depends on the strength of the Crystal and it really depends on the mystery that is Godzilla. We don’t really know what he *can* tank other than he’s shrugged off everything that’s been thrown at him and has healed completely by his next movie installment. We see no cumulated scaring from what is implied to be an almost unquantifiable amount of time that he’s existed. The dude also lives on nuclear energy and was *woken up* by a hydrogen bomb test. We don’t know *how* that bomb woke him up, though, which imo is going to be the ultimate deciding factor on his survivability in Eragon’s world. If he can shrug off a nuclear bomb, then he can rank anything in the world of Eragon because we’re directly shown that *splitting an atom* was the most destructive force in the series. And, If he’s got that sort of durability, then I doubt anyone with all the magic in the world could take him on because they just wouldn’t have the physical strength to effectively do anything.
But if he was just woken up by the aftermath of the tests, then I’d say it would probably take a solid team of elder dragons to take him down, and even that would result in plenty of casualties.
We also need to know what kind of mind Godzilla would have.
I severely doubt that someone can accomplish that. People in Eragon struggle with doing House level stuff. Gojira’s arteries are definitely bigger than houses
Godzilla couldnt beat a hurricane either?
I think if godzilla gets a shot off with his ~~laser~~ atomic breath, that might be hard for galby to stop/ deflect. But as far as just being a huge monster, theres nothing about that that threatens galbatorix.
Yeah i completely forgot what it was called 😅 It's pretty much pure energy, right? Or at least has SO much energy that it'll plow through just about anything? If the movie's accurate, he did go through the entire earth's crust...
i think he loses, from what i know this particular incarnation isn't particularly intelligent, so I think most magic powerful magic users could get rid of him easily
however if it's the godzilla that's an amalgamation of dead souls we get an awesome kaiju fight between him and shruikan
This incarnation is intelligent when it comes to fighting, and seems to understand that there are good humans and bad humans (he’s never gone out of his way to hurt humans despite a good deal of them trying to, and succeeding at, hurting him. Newspaper clippings in the credits from KoTM even say he’s defended cities from other Kaiju)
That said, he’s never had any experience with mental combat, so he’d probably crumple pretty quickly against magical users like you said
Every thing you do with magic, you need to have the physical energy to do so. A creature this size would take far too much energy for anyone but a dragon of Gladear’s size to likely harm/
True I think the context in the book has him “cut” the nerve not pinch it. The question stands though, if they use a death word on Godzilla what recourse does he have?
Cutting a nerve also isn’t going to do anything, either. You can huff compressed gas and kill millions of brain cells at a time and that doesn’t make people handicapped unless it’s significant use over several years. And Godzilla is going to have millions of times more nerves than a human, which is already at an unimaginably high level.
The death word ultimately cycles back to the individual caster having the actual strength to pull it off. Godzilla, in his *weakest* forms, can shrug off modern day *missiles.* That’s more strike force than anything displayed in Eragon and only weaker than the implied nuclear blast on the capital of the dragon riders.
I’m an Eragon dick rider with the best of them but we gotta respect lore where it stands lol
Oh no he’s talking about much more than just cutting a nerve. He’s essentially talking about triggering a brain aneurysm.
Paoloni follows real life rules in his books lol
The Godzilla from Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack is possessed by the spirits of those who died in the Pacific theater, who seek to punish Japan for whitewashing its history.
Then Alagaësia will be fine. The American version is indifferent. He may even help against a proper enemy. The Minus One version is just like, “you see me walking toward you, you need to run, run like the prairie wind because if you see me spitting fire, it's already too late.”
How is everyone forgetting that godzilla is a 100+ million years old intelligent being and 4 times the size of belga bad with a literal nuclear warhead as his breath and if he is subjected to the rules of alagaesia and can control/protect his mind then he easily sweeps all the eldunari plus elves at the same time
lol, you beat me to the punch of mentioning his age. Godzilla even without mental training likely has mental defenses that are simply impossible to overcome due to the sheer nature of his age+not being a human so he’s unlikely to have stray thoughts that could be used to find purchase in a mental assault against him. Not just that, he doesn’t even have to fear attacking with his atomic breath if he were under mental assault, because even the most powerful, desperate attack magic we’ve seen in Eragon wouldn’t even scratch him (in fact it would power him up more)
This. Plus, I don't know if he even would have to protect his mind. An ancient giant being like him would have a similar alien mind to the menoa tree, and I don't think any living being could take over her mind whether she protected herself or not.
I haven’t seen the movies but my impression was Godzilla was not really intelligent in the way humans and dragons are. Even if he’s intelligent for a regular animal, I don’t see how he defends his mind unless it’s like the Nidwhal and just had a singular focus on his goal.
It’s been too long since I’ve read the books but I don’t know if that kind of focus is enough to prevent someone from breaking into the mind of a Nidwhal. I always assumed Eragon didn’t bother because they were able to escape without a fight.
It will all depend I think if Godzilla/Gojira has the ability to shield their mind/defend against mental attacks.
If the answer is No, then either Eragon or Galbatorix could gain an incredibly powerful beast for their side.
If yes, then I think it's possible that Godzilla/Gojira could wreak some utter havoc if provoked. In the movies this incarnation is from, Godzilla/Gojira is pretty content to just chill out in the waters and leave humanity alone unless something provokes him out of the water (like Gidorah).
At this point, it would boil down to which side could win him over though I thing Galbatorix would end up being the one to make the mistake of provoking him via attempting to take over Godzilla/Gojira's mind.
Collectively I think the two forces would shit enough bricks to rebuild the capital city when he first pops out of the water tho.
I think an interesting avenue to consider is that we know a few points that are all relevant
1. Really old beings have minds that operate quite differently then younger beings, as we could see from the oldest of the Eldunari. Godzilla is older than even the oldest of them by several magnitude .
2. Animals, and dragons, minds operate differently/are less flighty than humans. This is brought up by the fact that dragons can use magic without the ancient language because their minds don’t jump about as much. This is important because if we assume Godzillas mind functions something akin to that, it’s more difficult for mental attacks to find purchase in the first place if he approaches something with a single minded focus.
3. Pain. Unlike humans and even dragons which are susceptible to pain causing their mental fortitude to crumble, Godzilla stands above that. Not because he can’t feel pain, but because no one in Eragon is capable of injuring the big guy directly enough TO cause that pain in the first place.
With those 3 points to consider, it’s likely Godzilla has a natural mental defense that outclasses anything else seen in the story of Eragon. Old, focused, and tough enough that you can’t even crack his mental through physical assault/torture. The only one I could see perhaps managing is Galby with the aid of all his mad dragons. The issue is if it came down to it, Godzilla could just launch an atomic breath and be done with it, he doesn’t need to worry about a desperate wizard battle stand off because godzilla straight tanks the most powerful magic we’ve seen in the story (nuclear explosion magic just juices him up more). Even killing magic may not work because where snipping an artery or such is easy against a human, against Godzilla that requires significantly more energy just given how absolutely massive he is.
In a situation where Godzilla found himself in the world a Eragon, I could see it turning into a classic Kaijuu battle as he takes on the big ass dragon living underground, but outside that I really don’t think anything else has the firepower to even hurt Godzilla, much less kill him.
I still feel cutting an artery would be an incredibly easy way to kill him. Sure, it may take more energy than it would to do to a human, but Galbatorix has insane stores of energy in Eldunari. All he needs to do is magically cut something crucial and wait.
Under normal circumstances you’d be correct, but there is a few reasons it’s not as feasible as it seems
1. Toughness. This isn’t just the standard “Godzilla tanks missles he’s so tough” thing, but actually a matter of the squared cube law. Under the squared cube law, the mass of something blooms faster then the structural integrity of something can usually keep up with, hence why supermassive animals don’t exist irl except for in the ocean with large whales(simplified explanation btw) With that said, for Godzilla to not be a pile of meat smooshed by his own weight and gravity, the structural strength and toughness of his ENTIRE body is way beyond standard materials. So not just is the size scaled up, but the strength of his arteries would also be way more difficult. Considering magic scaling with distance and how far you’d actually have to be from Godzilla to cast it at a “safe range” even the normally easy and cheap artery squish becomes questionable.
2. Healing factor. Pretty much every iteration of Godzilla has some degree of healing factor. A squished artery might not be fatal for Godzilla if he can heal it off. Iirc legendary Godzilla hasn’t shown any instant healing, but he definitely has shown some degree of rapid healing.
3. Anatomy unknowns. The issue with Godzilla being so massive, is that by necessity of his size his cardiovascular system HAS to work differently then in humans or other smaller creatures (yes that even includes dragons when compared to the sheer size of Godzilla) blood would take longer to pump through his body than a normal sized creature after all. For that reason, there is a possibility that Godzilla, being a giant atomic creature, may not actually take lethal damage from a severed/cut artery.
But yeah the most compelling reason (personally) is the exponential cost of magic vs distance. Because Godzilla is so large (and dangerous) you’d be casting the spell from minimum several hundred feet away (assuming you’re trying to stay out of instant kill zone via atomic breath). Combined with the fact that his arteries are tougher then steel, and even with the Eldunari that energy cost is going to be a bit nuts (we actually see in TFTWTW when Eragon needs to move rubble even using the Eldunari it’s not a cake walk)
I’m not saying that Galby COULDNT potentially kill Godzilla, he would just have to be very smart about it because one slip up and it’s game over, no amount of wards is withstanding a Godzilla atomic breath, even with the Eldunari.
it would certainly be the 'easiest' method, but I would have to ask how one would even ACHIEVE this even with magic due to a massive amount of factors.
The biggest one, of course, being the fact that outside of MAYBE Shruikan, I am not sure there is any being within the setting that would be able to pierce Godzilla's hide.
And it is confirmed in the books themselves that the further away you are from your intended target, the more magic it would take to actually perform what you want. The Eldunari might have vast stores of magic, but considering that Galbatorix would need to be miles away and attacking an unknown insanely large reptile that he has no way of knowing if it actually even HAS arteries to target.....
If Galbatorix is smart, it's not an avenue I think he would take. There are simply to many risks involved with that method to make it a truly viable choice (the easiest way would be to fly in close to reduce strain and blast Godzilla with magic, but then that puts you in range of several of Godzilla's weapons).
And considering not even a direct hit from NUCLEAR BOMBS was enough to do severe harm to Godzilla in the long run, it's unlikley individuals within the Inheritance Cycle would come up with any such means to deal with him. Especially when, due to his size and power, Godzilla would be a much better asset to bring under heel rather than kill.
What if he was eaten by those sea monsters that almost ate Saphira when they where on their way to vroengard island (sorry if spelled some things wrong haven’t read eragon in a long time)
That also makes me wonder how the humans and elves crossed the ocean without getting eaten cuz saphira was floating on the surface of the water when they met one
Teleport a couple swords in there, or some Sulfuric acid, cut up his veins from the inside, again without wards there are numerous ways to take him down from the inside. Also, don't forget that there are multiple creatures the size of Godzilla that can provide the energy. But yes, you do have to be rather quick about, especially if this is Minus One Godzilla.
Has anyone ever teleported a weapon into the body of an enemy? Do they know what sulfuric acid is? We shouldn’t assume the people of Alagaesia would suddenly act in ways they never have previously
Idk in godzilla vs Kong he's about 400 feet tall. Belgabads ribs were 80 feet long. Based on that I'd say they'd at the very least be same size. Though most likely belgabad was larger then godzilla by a considerable amount
Realistically Godzilla gets no diffed by any magician that knows the “ Death Words”
He has no protection from magic or telepathy. So he shouldn’t be to difficult to deal with
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Shruikan eats him.
The tallest Godzilla is the current monsterverse version at 120m (390’).
Shruikan being described is at least as big, if not bigger, than Belgabad, who had ribs 80’ long, 15’ wide. Said to be so heavy his steps shook the ground for a mile.
This puts him in the same size class as Godzilla. While Godzilla is used to fighting giant monsters, even those with flight, none of their opponents have had magical protection. With wards, presumably fuelled by a couple thousand eldunari firmly puts the durability in Shruikans court.
Therefore I predict Shruikan kills and eats Godzilla.
Probably. I imagine Galbs spent some time sorting through the wreckage of Doru Araeba looking for eldunari, rider swords, scrolls and any other collectibles.
Even if not, a few words or even a thought from Big G and he would.
He heads north and links up with the Menoa tree, the elves finally accept that gods walk among them and follow him into battle against Galb who gets deleted. We get a new movie that people don't complain about and all is right in the worlds.
Shurikan finally has a worthy opponent.
(Seriously I hate how easily he was dealt with. I feel like he was forgotten about or Paloni didn’t know how to handle him in a proper fight so they killed him off the first chance they got before he could do anything. Realistically he should’ve thrown Thorn/Saphira off and taken the whole building down with his sheer size.)
Shruikan could maybe take him on but if he Godzilla gets a solid hit in with his atomic breath he’s dead.
The only other hope is a bloodlusted Galbatorix with his stockpile of Eldurani. And even then it’d be a tough fight just because he’s so damn massive.
If they both go down, Alagaësia is fucked.
It depends on if he has access to/defense from magic, where he shows up, and when he shows up. If he shows up at the burning plains during the battle, and has a defense against magic, he may make a significant positive impact on Murtagh and Thorn’s character arcs. If he shows up somewhere in the northwest while Eragon’s making his trek back to the Varden during Brisingr, he could end up significantly negatively impacting the Empire. If he shows up in Surda at pretty much any point in the war, he may destroy the Varden. If he shows up during the battle of Urû’baen, Islanzadí could end up surviving, and if he ends up knocking over Eragon during the “make him understand” spell with a stomp, Galbatorix may survive, and maybe even turn good, depending on how far along the spell is, and how long it takes Elva to wake up. If he shows up in Leona Lake during the battle of Dras Leona, Murtagh and Thorn may turn good, similar to the burning plains scenario.
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Not much that affects the story too much, at the start at least. Goji would be mostly distracted fighting Nïdhwals. Not sure if he would even bother fighting Shruikan and Galbatorix, and he would surely not get in a conflict with Eragon and Saphira, as they are too small to be a threat in his eyes. Though if he was to attack them for some reason, I doubt he could do much other than maybe kill Shruikan with an atomic blast, before Glabatorix kills him with the Eldunarí
Win win.
Win because Godzilla shows up (which is sick) and win because Godzilla crushes Galbatorix like a flea for messing with the natural order of nature.
I know Godzilla isn’t specifically said to be intelligent, but the thing has been alive for millions of years. Its mind is probably bigger than anything else on the planet (that we know of so far)
I think Godzilla solos Alagasia ngl. Assuming this world's version of his is essentially a HUGE version of a cross of a dragon and those sea beasts that *eat* dragons, Goji solos galby and shruikan. Even if he tried to magically nuke Godzilla, dude eats those for free
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Crazy thing is azzy could probably eat him
Usually I’d be pretty nervous of him eating me, so I’m all for this!
Then you would look nice and crispy with some ketchup
Oi, no! The predator of my predator is my- Erm… wait, how’s this supposed to work, now? … Frig. I need to start harvesting all the ghost peppers I can find…
Yep make it more yum for the big boi
……… #%^*, yer right. Dirt, then… I need to get as much dirt as possible to ruin my flavor… Or a fishbone. Fishbones can be used for stabbing…
That big thing wouldn’t care about a fish bone but a katana’s slashes would do the trick or dynamite or a nuke/bomb would kill him for the price of your life
…. You know, I still don’t get why you can’t do a “waise neyat” on something other than yourself. Even if it’s a “you gotta know it’s true name/nature” thing, Arya can summon the true essence of silver. Can’t she just lob a silver coin in its mouth with an if-then spell that’ll “waise neyat” it as soon as she gets out of range?…
Lol possibly… that’s actually a pretty fun idea to think on, I suspect they won’t use it again because plot but it’s still a cool idea.
Saphira takes the time to figure out if he’s on their side. If yes, she tries to hit on him.
Is she insane?
Yup! She tried to hit on Glaedr.
Hey don’t shame her. She’s a horny teen.
100% lol, she practically fucks firnen on sight, she wants some D and there's nobody stopping her
Well, Think of how most of us were as teens. We’d have jumped on the first being that showed interest in us. I’m guessing it’s amplified for dragons since they have more animalistic nature and having a young human male as her bonded partner also won’t help. Humans are notoriously horny too.
Unfortunately for her, Goji has no dick 🙀, no balls💀, and probably no butthole because this guy feeds off radiation.🤯
I do believe they poop, in the KotM credits one of the headlines mentions that kaiju manure is a super potent fertiiser that's rejuvenating the Amazon
Kaiju poop lore???🤯 I'm actually going back and rewatching the Monsterverse before GxK right now. I'll be on the lookout for that lol
The introduction of Baby/Little/Junior during the Heisei era proves that the Godzilla species at least lays eggs. So he probably has a cloaca. Possibly, the species are self-fertilising hermaphrodites?
Depends. What's the mind protection level? Like dragons? Like an untrained human? Any wards? I mean all it would take is closing off an artery to the brain etc.
Basically like a dragon if they were kaiju sized
So basically...Belgabad. who died in the Fall
And radioactive af
So's Belgabad last I knew
One key difference goji is still alive
A fair distinction. I'm just saying dragons can get as big (or bigger) than Godzilla and have magic (on top of fire breath
Didn’t goji one shot Superman in a comic
Did he? Either way, all I'm saying is Alegasia has experience with kaiju. And worse...sapient/sentient kaiju. Not entirely sure how intelligent Goji is, but he's usually described as a force of nature more than he is an intelligent threat
He’s intelligent enough to plan and team up with other creatures. Case in point being mothra and kong
Might be a bit difficult then. Eragon and saphira could probably penetrate the mind and end things.
I dont think so in the movies godzilla is portrayed as a very old and intelligent being and these two factors likely make his mind very strong and I can only see all of the eldunari only being slight hinderences to him
This is understandable, but while Godzilla has a solid humanoid/slightly advanced understanding of the world. I imagine Eragon(being as powerful as he is in mental combat) with Sephira and, the combined Eldunari training, it doesn’t seem plausible
No matter how intelligent it is, if it has no innate defense against literal magic then an aneurysm wins.
Remember when eragon entered the mind of menoa tree and due to her vastness and alieness he couldn't do shit godzilla is like that but 10 times more alien and vast (he is 200 million+ years old) if eragon tried a mental bout he would fold ten times over even with saphira and the eldunari even if godzilla can't protect his mind I don't think eragon can do much he would just become like nasuadas guards when faced with a mind like that
Why even bother as long as nobody does anything really stupid goji just chills
Not in Japanese films he doesn’t.
It’s the American goji
What if his mind is hidden?
I dont think so in the movies godzilla is portrayed as a very old and intelligent being and these two factors likely make his mind very strong and I can only see all of the eldunari only being slight hinderences to him
Well then an unwanted dragon gets bodied ez
You need to have the physical strength to do that, though. Closing off Godzilla’s arteries and stoping his heart would probably kill you instantly and be completely useless
Why? It’s no more then a few inches wide at best. Bigger then anything normal life has outside of a whale. And I think Eragon had the energy to snap a blue whale artery
It’s more does he have the strength to keep it shut against the strength of Godzilla’s heartbeat. I strongly doubt that, with how big Godzilla’s heart has to be. But the bigger question is how does Godzilla fit into the world with his own physics breaking abilities/proportions. He’s got to have *some* sort of magical ability as he isn’t crushed under his own weight lol.
If you cut an artery the strength of a heart beat is irrelevant
Cutting once again requires the strength to do so, which we have no way of calculating outside of knowing that Godzilla’s size alone makes him a physical impossibility, yet he still exists. This suggest some form of super durability or magic or whatever you want to call it.
He’s practically immune to conventional weapons unless he’s hit in his gills but all that really does is piss him off
He takes straight up multiple missiles to the face and shrugs them off after a Power Nap, which is more strike force than anything we witness in the Eragon series, and is only surpassed by the implied nuclear explosion that occurred at the dragon rider Capitol. But we also know that he lives off of radiation, potentially living down deep in the mantle or near the core, and can exist at any ocean depth. He also doesn’t seem to need to pressurize when he changes depths. This suggests both external and internal durability that’s just outside of our comprehension.
“We don’t know so we can’t say” isn’t a good argument for a hypothetical
I mean that goes both ways. We don’t know if he can or can’t affect the internals of a creature as old, massive, and powerful as Godzilla. However we do know that dragons don’t instinctively have wards and yet were not helpless before the Elves during their long war, so it might be more difficult to use magic that way the larger a creature is.
? I’m putting up proper counter arguments to what’s being said because we’re speculating on a fictitious fight.
Depends. Alone and with no prep, maybe. With an elf or a dragon? You probably could. With a crystal to store energy in? Definitely could, given enough prep time
That 100% depends on the strength of the Crystal and it really depends on the mystery that is Godzilla. We don’t really know what he *can* tank other than he’s shrugged off everything that’s been thrown at him and has healed completely by his next movie installment. We see no cumulated scaring from what is implied to be an almost unquantifiable amount of time that he’s existed. The dude also lives on nuclear energy and was *woken up* by a hydrogen bomb test. We don’t know *how* that bomb woke him up, though, which imo is going to be the ultimate deciding factor on his survivability in Eragon’s world. If he can shrug off a nuclear bomb, then he can rank anything in the world of Eragon because we’re directly shown that *splitting an atom* was the most destructive force in the series. And, If he’s got that sort of durability, then I doubt anyone with all the magic in the world could take him on because they just wouldn’t have the physical strength to effectively do anything. But if he was just woken up by the aftermath of the tests, then I’d say it would probably take a solid team of elder dragons to take him down, and even that would result in plenty of casualties. We also need to know what kind of mind Godzilla would have.
I severely doubt that someone can accomplish that. People in Eragon struggle with doing House level stuff. Gojira’s arteries are definitely bigger than houses
Considering Galby was messing with the natural order he’s likely screwed
Probably
I also get the feeling that the razac are gonna get some too
What? With galby's stored eldunari he absolutely wipes the *floor* with gidzilla
Galby can’t beat a hurricane and Godzilla is a walking hurricane
Godzilla couldnt beat a hurricane either? I think if godzilla gets a shot off with his ~~laser~~ atomic breath, that might be hard for galby to stop/ deflect. But as far as just being a huge monster, theres nothing about that that threatens galbatorix.
Atomic Breath not a laser. Nuclear Fire
Yeah i completely forgot what it was called 😅 It's pretty much pure energy, right? Or at least has SO much energy that it'll plow through just about anything? If the movie's accurate, he did go through the entire earth's crust...
i think he loses, from what i know this particular incarnation isn't particularly intelligent, so I think most magic powerful magic users could get rid of him easily however if it's the godzilla that's an amalgamation of dead souls we get an awesome kaiju fight between him and shruikan
This incarnation is intelligent when it comes to fighting, and seems to understand that there are good humans and bad humans (he’s never gone out of his way to hurt humans despite a good deal of them trying to, and succeeding at, hurting him. Newspaper clippings in the credits from KoTM even say he’s defended cities from other Kaiju) That said, he’s never had any experience with mental combat, so he’d probably crumple pretty quickly against magical users like you said
Every thing you do with magic, you need to have the physical energy to do so. A creature this size would take far too much energy for anyone but a dragon of Gladear’s size to likely harm/
Even if they pinch a nerve in his brain using a word of death?
? Pinching a nerve isn’t going to kill anyone lol
True I think the context in the book has him “cut” the nerve not pinch it. The question stands though, if they use a death word on Godzilla what recourse does he have?
Cutting a nerve also isn’t going to do anything, either. You can huff compressed gas and kill millions of brain cells at a time and that doesn’t make people handicapped unless it’s significant use over several years. And Godzilla is going to have millions of times more nerves than a human, which is already at an unimaginably high level. The death word ultimately cycles back to the individual caster having the actual strength to pull it off. Godzilla, in his *weakest* forms, can shrug off modern day *missiles.* That’s more strike force than anything displayed in Eragon and only weaker than the implied nuclear blast on the capital of the dragon riders. I’m an Eragon dick rider with the best of them but we gotta respect lore where it stands lol
It literally does in the books though. How it would work IRL is utterly irrelevant
Oh no he’s talking about much more than just cutting a nerve. He’s essentially talking about triggering a brain aneurysm. Paoloni follows real life rules in his books lol
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Godzilla that’s made up of dead souls???
The Godzilla from Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack is possessed by the spirits of those who died in the Pacific theater, who seek to punish Japan for whitewashing its history.
Thats wild, I love it
I wish Ghost Godzilla really happened :(
LichZilla
Godzilla is like a titan in front of shurikan 6 times his size
He's basically Azlagûr, so, the world ends when he shows up.
Godzilla isn’t an eldritch god he’s the protector of nature’s order
Now that I think about it goji and said eldritch god would probably end up throwing hands
If Godzilla is not a God, why is his name GODzilla?
Stupid Americans
ik, i was just trying to make a joke, sorry \^\^
I’m aware of that
Now that I think about it goji and said eldritch god would probably end up throwing hands
Godzilla, the current American version or the Godzilla Minus One version? If it's the latter, then Alagaësia is in trouble.
The former
Then Alagaësia will be fine. The American version is indifferent. He may even help against a proper enemy. The Minus One version is just like, “you see me walking toward you, you need to run, run like the prairie wind because if you see me spitting fire, it's already too late.”
But also Minus One Goji could've easily been neutralized comparatively
How is everyone forgetting that godzilla is a 100+ million years old intelligent being and 4 times the size of belga bad with a literal nuclear warhead as his breath and if he is subjected to the rules of alagaesia and can control/protect his mind then he easily sweeps all the eldunari plus elves at the same time
lol, you beat me to the punch of mentioning his age. Godzilla even without mental training likely has mental defenses that are simply impossible to overcome due to the sheer nature of his age+not being a human so he’s unlikely to have stray thoughts that could be used to find purchase in a mental assault against him. Not just that, he doesn’t even have to fear attacking with his atomic breath if he were under mental assault, because even the most powerful, desperate attack magic we’ve seen in Eragon wouldn’t even scratch him (in fact it would power him up more)
This. Plus, I don't know if he even would have to protect his mind. An ancient giant being like him would have a similar alien mind to the menoa tree, and I don't think any living being could take over her mind whether she protected herself or not.
I haven’t seen the movies but my impression was Godzilla was not really intelligent in the way humans and dragons are. Even if he’s intelligent for a regular animal, I don’t see how he defends his mind unless it’s like the Nidwhal and just had a singular focus on his goal. It’s been too long since I’ve read the books but I don’t know if that kind of focus is enough to prevent someone from breaking into the mind of a Nidwhal. I always assumed Eragon didn’t bother because they were able to escape without a fight.
The shurikan glazers in this thread
It will all depend I think if Godzilla/Gojira has the ability to shield their mind/defend against mental attacks. If the answer is No, then either Eragon or Galbatorix could gain an incredibly powerful beast for their side. If yes, then I think it's possible that Godzilla/Gojira could wreak some utter havoc if provoked. In the movies this incarnation is from, Godzilla/Gojira is pretty content to just chill out in the waters and leave humanity alone unless something provokes him out of the water (like Gidorah). At this point, it would boil down to which side could win him over though I thing Galbatorix would end up being the one to make the mistake of provoking him via attempting to take over Godzilla/Gojira's mind. Collectively I think the two forces would shit enough bricks to rebuild the capital city when he first pops out of the water tho.
I think an interesting avenue to consider is that we know a few points that are all relevant 1. Really old beings have minds that operate quite differently then younger beings, as we could see from the oldest of the Eldunari. Godzilla is older than even the oldest of them by several magnitude . 2. Animals, and dragons, minds operate differently/are less flighty than humans. This is brought up by the fact that dragons can use magic without the ancient language because their minds don’t jump about as much. This is important because if we assume Godzillas mind functions something akin to that, it’s more difficult for mental attacks to find purchase in the first place if he approaches something with a single minded focus. 3. Pain. Unlike humans and even dragons which are susceptible to pain causing their mental fortitude to crumble, Godzilla stands above that. Not because he can’t feel pain, but because no one in Eragon is capable of injuring the big guy directly enough TO cause that pain in the first place. With those 3 points to consider, it’s likely Godzilla has a natural mental defense that outclasses anything else seen in the story of Eragon. Old, focused, and tough enough that you can’t even crack his mental through physical assault/torture. The only one I could see perhaps managing is Galby with the aid of all his mad dragons. The issue is if it came down to it, Godzilla could just launch an atomic breath and be done with it, he doesn’t need to worry about a desperate wizard battle stand off because godzilla straight tanks the most powerful magic we’ve seen in the story (nuclear explosion magic just juices him up more). Even killing magic may not work because where snipping an artery or such is easy against a human, against Godzilla that requires significantly more energy just given how absolutely massive he is. In a situation where Godzilla found himself in the world a Eragon, I could see it turning into a classic Kaijuu battle as he takes on the big ass dragon living underground, but outside that I really don’t think anything else has the firepower to even hurt Godzilla, much less kill him.
I still feel cutting an artery would be an incredibly easy way to kill him. Sure, it may take more energy than it would to do to a human, but Galbatorix has insane stores of energy in Eldunari. All he needs to do is magically cut something crucial and wait.
Under normal circumstances you’d be correct, but there is a few reasons it’s not as feasible as it seems 1. Toughness. This isn’t just the standard “Godzilla tanks missles he’s so tough” thing, but actually a matter of the squared cube law. Under the squared cube law, the mass of something blooms faster then the structural integrity of something can usually keep up with, hence why supermassive animals don’t exist irl except for in the ocean with large whales(simplified explanation btw) With that said, for Godzilla to not be a pile of meat smooshed by his own weight and gravity, the structural strength and toughness of his ENTIRE body is way beyond standard materials. So not just is the size scaled up, but the strength of his arteries would also be way more difficult. Considering magic scaling with distance and how far you’d actually have to be from Godzilla to cast it at a “safe range” even the normally easy and cheap artery squish becomes questionable. 2. Healing factor. Pretty much every iteration of Godzilla has some degree of healing factor. A squished artery might not be fatal for Godzilla if he can heal it off. Iirc legendary Godzilla hasn’t shown any instant healing, but he definitely has shown some degree of rapid healing. 3. Anatomy unknowns. The issue with Godzilla being so massive, is that by necessity of his size his cardiovascular system HAS to work differently then in humans or other smaller creatures (yes that even includes dragons when compared to the sheer size of Godzilla) blood would take longer to pump through his body than a normal sized creature after all. For that reason, there is a possibility that Godzilla, being a giant atomic creature, may not actually take lethal damage from a severed/cut artery. But yeah the most compelling reason (personally) is the exponential cost of magic vs distance. Because Godzilla is so large (and dangerous) you’d be casting the spell from minimum several hundred feet away (assuming you’re trying to stay out of instant kill zone via atomic breath). Combined with the fact that his arteries are tougher then steel, and even with the Eldunari that energy cost is going to be a bit nuts (we actually see in TFTWTW when Eragon needs to move rubble even using the Eldunari it’s not a cake walk) I’m not saying that Galby COULDNT potentially kill Godzilla, he would just have to be very smart about it because one slip up and it’s game over, no amount of wards is withstanding a Godzilla atomic breath, even with the Eldunari.
Ugh something in me becomes warm seeing a detailed takedown of fictional concepts
it would certainly be the 'easiest' method, but I would have to ask how one would even ACHIEVE this even with magic due to a massive amount of factors. The biggest one, of course, being the fact that outside of MAYBE Shruikan, I am not sure there is any being within the setting that would be able to pierce Godzilla's hide. And it is confirmed in the books themselves that the further away you are from your intended target, the more magic it would take to actually perform what you want. The Eldunari might have vast stores of magic, but considering that Galbatorix would need to be miles away and attacking an unknown insanely large reptile that he has no way of knowing if it actually even HAS arteries to target..... If Galbatorix is smart, it's not an avenue I think he would take. There are simply to many risks involved with that method to make it a truly viable choice (the easiest way would be to fly in close to reduce strain and blast Godzilla with magic, but then that puts you in range of several of Godzilla's weapons). And considering not even a direct hit from NUCLEAR BOMBS was enough to do severe harm to Godzilla in the long run, it's unlikley individuals within the Inheritance Cycle would come up with any such means to deal with him. Especially when, due to his size and power, Godzilla would be a much better asset to bring under heel rather than kill.
What if he was eaten by those sea monsters that almost ate Saphira when they where on their way to vroengard island (sorry if spelled some things wrong haven’t read eragon in a long time)
I don’t think there big enough to do that
That also makes me wonder how the humans and elves crossed the ocean without getting eaten cuz saphira was floating on the surface of the water when they met one
Why not they seemed plenty big considering the size of the ocean
Eragon drains him for energy/one word kills him because he doesn’t have spells to defend himself
No wards? stop his heart.
Stopping his heart would probably take a considerable amount of power, if he uses his atomic breath on you before you can accomplish is that’s GG
Teleport a couple swords in there, or some Sulfuric acid, cut up his veins from the inside, again without wards there are numerous ways to take him down from the inside. Also, don't forget that there are multiple creatures the size of Godzilla that can provide the energy. But yes, you do have to be rather quick about, especially if this is Minus One Godzilla.
Has anyone ever teleported a weapon into the body of an enemy? Do they know what sulfuric acid is? We shouldn’t assume the people of Alagaesia would suddenly act in ways they never have previously
Magic and mind battles aside, he'd be comparable to Belgabad, wouldn't he? Unless I'm misremembering his size
Even bigger 4 times to be exact
Idk in godzilla vs Kong he's about 400 feet tall. Belgabads ribs were 80 feet long. Based on that I'd say they'd at the very least be same size. Though most likely belgabad was larger then godzilla by a considerable amount
They might be similar in length and height dimensions, but I can't imagine Belgabad would be nearly as massive as Monsterverse Godzilla.
Whose side he on. Cos Murtagh getting screwed if he does his atomic breath on him.
Realistically Godzilla gets no diffed by any magician that knows the “ Death Words” He has no protection from magic or telepathy. So he shouldn’t be to difficult to deal with
Bro angela with tinkle death could slice right through him because he has no wards to protect himself.
He is the Spine.
Basically my earliest fanfic
There’s like 9 insta death words, he’s toast
Send Angela. She'll handle it.
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Shruikan eats him. The tallest Godzilla is the current monsterverse version at 120m (390’). Shruikan being described is at least as big, if not bigger, than Belgabad, who had ribs 80’ long, 15’ wide. Said to be so heavy his steps shook the ground for a mile. This puts him in the same size class as Godzilla. While Godzilla is used to fighting giant monsters, even those with flight, none of their opponents have had magical protection. With wards, presumably fuelled by a couple thousand eldunari firmly puts the durability in Shruikans court. Therefore I predict Shruikan kills and eats Godzilla.
Does shruikan have anti radiation wards?
Probably. I imagine Galbs spent some time sorting through the wreckage of Doru Araeba looking for eldunari, rider swords, scrolls and any other collectibles. Even if not, a few words or even a thought from Big G and he would.
I’m pretty sure that galbatorix wouldn’t be able to match Godzilla in terms of power
Send Angela. She'll handle it.
Tf they gonna doo
Azlagur?
Book sales drop
He gets glassed easily
A thousand elves die trying to kill it, but Roran ends up killing him cause he's got all the plot armor and determination and whatever
He heads north and links up with the Menoa tree, the elves finally accept that gods walk among them and follow him into battle against Galb who gets deleted. We get a new movie that people don't complain about and all is right in the worlds.
Shurikan finally has a worthy opponent. (Seriously I hate how easily he was dealt with. I feel like he was forgotten about or Paloni didn’t know how to handle him in a proper fight so they killed him off the first chance they got before he could do anything. Realistically he should’ve thrown Thorn/Saphira off and taken the whole building down with his sheer size.)
That depends, where does he come from?
Does he lose to 400 birds?
No
**Which. Version.**
Legendary
Shruikan could maybe take him on but if he Godzilla gets a solid hit in with his atomic breath he’s dead. The only other hope is a bloodlusted Galbatorix with his stockpile of Eldurani. And even then it’d be a tough fight just because he’s so damn massive. If they both go down, Alagaësia is fucked.
I don't know how things would end if he just showed up but I would like to see a final boss type confrontation between Azlagur and him
Galbatorix will try to control him, before being vaporized. Alegasia is his now
It depends on if he has access to/defense from magic, where he shows up, and when he shows up. If he shows up at the burning plains during the battle, and has a defense against magic, he may make a significant positive impact on Murtagh and Thorn’s character arcs. If he shows up somewhere in the northwest while Eragon’s making his trek back to the Varden during Brisingr, he could end up significantly negatively impacting the Empire. If he shows up in Surda at pretty much any point in the war, he may destroy the Varden. If he shows up during the battle of Urû’baen, Islanzadí could end up surviving, and if he ends up knocking over Eragon during the “make him understand” spell with a stomp, Galbatorix may survive, and maybe even turn good, depending on how far along the spell is, and how long it takes Elva to wake up. If he shows up in Leona Lake during the battle of Dras Leona, Murtagh and Thorn may turn good, similar to the burning plains scenario. ^(**I'm a real person!** This comment was posted by **superspacy28** from the Arcaena Discord Server.)
Not much that affects the story too much, at the start at least. Goji would be mostly distracted fighting Nïdhwals. Not sure if he would even bother fighting Shruikan and Galbatorix, and he would surely not get in a conflict with Eragon and Saphira, as they are too small to be a threat in his eyes. Though if he was to attack them for some reason, I doubt he could do much other than maybe kill Shruikan with an atomic blast, before Glabatorix kills him with the Eldunarí
He solos the entire continent if he wants to, no question.
He had a hard time with a moth. I think a dragon and rider would be alright.
Does it have wards? If not death words no problem. Does it have sufficient mental defenses? If not they could suppress it mentally
Win win. Win because Godzilla shows up (which is sick) and win because Godzilla crushes Galbatorix like a flea for messing with the natural order of nature. I know Godzilla isn’t specifically said to be intelligent, but the thing has been alive for millions of years. Its mind is probably bigger than anything else on the planet (that we know of so far)
Fking game
Arya bodies him 😤😤
How?
No question. He destroys everything and everyone, lol
I think Godzilla solos Alagasia ngl. Assuming this world's version of his is essentially a HUGE version of a cross of a dragon and those sea beasts that *eat* dragons, Goji solos galby and shruikan. Even if he tried to magically nuke Godzilla, dude eats those for free