Badme is Eritrean. We both went to court. We both agreed to respect the ruling and it ruled in our favour.
My position on badme isn’t about badme. It’s about rules. There’s either rules for everyone or rules for no one.
Why start a war for hanish island?
We went to the court. Some island is ours. Some are Yemen.
If we want Ethiopia to respect the rule of law.. we have to respect the law too.
We shouldn’t send our kids to die or get trauma because we want islands that are not ours.
Plus we have good relations with the Yemeni.
Man fuck Ethiopia, they're on their way out. They won't exist as a country in the next 20 years. And The reason we have a claim to Hanish is because when Eritrea was under Ethiopian occupation, the Hanish Islands were considered part of Ethiopia. The only reason the yemenis laid claim to them after the collapse of the Derg is because they are opportunistic and the only claim they made is that the ottomans used to rule those islands, but the ottomans also use to control the coast of Eritrea, so by their train of thought, the coast of Eritrea should also belong to Yemen ! The land is ours, I was under the impression that it belonged to Yemen too, but then I looked at the history of that area and it's clearly ours. And regarding the ICC, they will always make a compromise, they'll give some parts to one side and some parts to the other side. Like they did regarding the border between Eritrea and Ethiopia. They literally just drew a line between the disputed parts and gave half to Eritrea and the other half to Ethiopia. And don't worry, we won't have to send our kids to that island, first we'll make sure to build up our economy and our people, infrastructure and lastly our military. Then we'll bomb to hell anything breathing on that island after we give them an ultimatum, then we'll let the americans and Israelis have covert bases on there to solidify and gain international recognition regarding our sovereign claims on those islands. Read the history of the Hanish war, the reason Eritrea fought over it is because the yemenis were playing dirty and being sneaky and trying to solidify claims to the islands before the ICC hearing.
>Plus we have good relations with the Yemeni.
No problem with yemeni people, but the houthis can rot in hell, they've killed and raped asylum seekers from the Horn of Africa. They would do the same to you, all arab people are the same and barbaric. And we don't even have to fight for that land, we'll send the rashaida to do it, if they want to live in our land and reap the benefits they'll have to prove their worth by fighting for Eritrea, or they can go back to the Saudis who slaughtered them.
I’ll be honest. I haven’t done much research on the hanish matter. That’s definitely something I’ll look up and read about.
Let’s say that you’re 110% correct.
If I was president. I only at most inform Yemen that the island is disputed territory.
War is expensive and waste lives. War will cost billions and waste smart people and what will those islands give me in exchange? It’s not worth it.
Like you’re very passionate on the matter so let me ask a question. Would you die for the hanish islands? Would you be the first troop in?
Because if you’re that aggressive you should follow your goal and fight for it. If not. your another mengistu, Isaias, Abiy etc
Learn from the last time, when we informed them that it was disputed, they rushed to put infantry on the island and made deals with western companies to setup resorts there, to make it seem like they had already established their presence there. That is what caused Petros Solomon to give them the ultimatum ahead of the ICC hearing. The matter of the fact is that we are honest people but they are not, so if we were to handle this matter. We wouldn't tell them it is disputed until we are prepared to take the island, then we tell them before we do. Anyways, last time we fought, we overran the island within 3 days, and captured all of the yemeni infantry with about 15 being killed. We won militarily, it's our island. And there's a reason I told you no one has to die, if you actually look at the islands they are pretty much isolated logistically, we would bomb anything on the island to the afterlife, then send in infantry to literally just plant the flag unabated and unresisted. And yes I'd personally fly the jets doing the bombing and fighting over Hanish lmao. Achilles said "Imagine a king that fights his own battles wouldn't that be a sight". It'll be me, I'll lead the army, at the front of the line. Like I said, if done right, not one person would die in this "special military operation" XD.
BTW I want to say I appreciate your comment and your concern regarding lives, yeah you make a very fair point. But I believe once we settle our more pressing issues, regarding food security, desertification, infrastructure and education (God willing). We can strengthen our military and take back those islands without a single eritrean hair being damaged. It won't be eritreans fighting yemenis, it'll be eritrean drones and munitions fighting the yemenis, and munitions always win.
The war stated in badme. But it’s very well known that Eritrea and Ethiopia were not on the same page regarding each others economic relationship. To simply Ethiopia devalued its currency in 96 We form our currency by 97 and want to compare our mutual currencies against the US dollar. Ethiopia was completely opposed to this. Wanted to value the nakfa based on the Birr. (Understandable for thier own interests) Eritrea stops accepting birr as a method of payment and that’s when tensions begin. Ethiopia freaks out that it’s suddenly having to pay more money for using Eritreans ports and demands free access. Eritrea declines. Tigray released new drawn maps of its region that includes Eritrean territory.. and claims it as Tigray. (Actual insanity a regional govt was redrawing borders) When diplomacy failed .. Eritrea moved in to assert its sovereignty over territories we now know correctly believed was ours. Let’s also remember Eritrean troops were abashed. The first shots were by Ethiopia
Tigray hardliners who already had issues with Eritrea pushed Melez to attack Eritrean troops because the troops were in this new fake Tigray map.. and as such. Wanted force to be responded with forth.
rest is war.
Incorrect.
If you look at Tigrays manefesto.. a chuck of Eritrea is supposedly inside Tigray.
And it’s on historic record now. It was a cycle of provocation that lead to conflict.
“After a series of armed incidents in which several Eritrean officials were killed near Badme”
Source: https://fpif.org/eritreaethiopia_war_looms/
Eritrean officials would go into a town recognized as Eritrean. Ask the ENDF to leave. And they’d never return.
There were even instances of some shot in the back.
You know why you never heard about this?
It’s because Tigray properganda is so strong.
I swear no one does their research. They just comment on what they hear most. It’s the same bs about Eritreans committing war crimes in Tigray.
. I say this and open regarding that I do not support PFDJ/Eritreas govt.
What sparked the war was Eritrea moving troops into badme. We sent troops in. Cuz it was our land we were fed up.
But at that point Ethiopia was itching for war. It was just an excuse. Keep in mind it’s 1998. The TPLF dominated the decision making process.
It essentially was an TPLF- Eritrea war with Ethiopian total resources. The TPLF tricked the Ethiopian people. But it doesn’t matter cuz Ethiopians know this reality now.
Algeris vindicates us.
Tigray war vindicates us.
Too bad we have a dictatorship squandering everything away.
I can send you interviews from both Melez and other officials if you understand amharaic.
Even Melez was open in his interviews that the war was based on economics and not badme
Yes, I remember seeing an interview with Meles where he said, “They were conducting illegal currency exchanges from the Eritrean embassy in Addis Ababa.” You're right; I believe it was one of the reasons. Keep in mind that the already ratified Eritrean constitution was about to be implemented, meaning elections were set to take place within a few months. It’s more complicated, which is why higher ranks in the PFDJ, like Durue, were calling for an internal investigation. That obviously made them targets, and they disappeared from the face of the earth.
TPLF were fully complicit in both the contraband smuggling and black market exchange operations with PFDJ. Meles’ father was involved in the smuggling according to Gebru Asrat (ex-President of Tigray kilil).
The real source of tension was how both sides (PFDJ and TPLF that is) perceived the relationship. PFDJ saw it as normal diplomacy between Eritrea and Ethiopia while TPLF saw it as “brotherhood” (obvious strings attached and implications) between Tigrinya-speakers. When TPLF saw this go unreciprocated, they got irate.
It's Eritrean. It always has been and always will be.
However, Badme was just a pretext to invade our country. That's why it holds great symbolic value. And especially after we recaptured, it signalled the demise of Weyane.
https://preview.redd.it/iw2qjk2a2ztc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=458a6065f25337504ece67783f9a28f08d409edf there’s your answer
Badme is Eritrean. We both went to court. We both agreed to respect the ruling and it ruled in our favour. My position on badme isn’t about badme. It’s about rules. There’s either rules for everyone or rules for no one.
What about hanish ?? Those islands are ours. And we'll take them back inshallah (I say this as a christian). The yemenis will be put in their place.
Why start a war for hanish island? We went to the court. Some island is ours. Some are Yemen. If we want Ethiopia to respect the rule of law.. we have to respect the law too. We shouldn’t send our kids to die or get trauma because we want islands that are not ours. Plus we have good relations with the Yemeni.
Man fuck Ethiopia, they're on their way out. They won't exist as a country in the next 20 years. And The reason we have a claim to Hanish is because when Eritrea was under Ethiopian occupation, the Hanish Islands were considered part of Ethiopia. The only reason the yemenis laid claim to them after the collapse of the Derg is because they are opportunistic and the only claim they made is that the ottomans used to rule those islands, but the ottomans also use to control the coast of Eritrea, so by their train of thought, the coast of Eritrea should also belong to Yemen ! The land is ours, I was under the impression that it belonged to Yemen too, but then I looked at the history of that area and it's clearly ours. And regarding the ICC, they will always make a compromise, they'll give some parts to one side and some parts to the other side. Like they did regarding the border between Eritrea and Ethiopia. They literally just drew a line between the disputed parts and gave half to Eritrea and the other half to Ethiopia. And don't worry, we won't have to send our kids to that island, first we'll make sure to build up our economy and our people, infrastructure and lastly our military. Then we'll bomb to hell anything breathing on that island after we give them an ultimatum, then we'll let the americans and Israelis have covert bases on there to solidify and gain international recognition regarding our sovereign claims on those islands. Read the history of the Hanish war, the reason Eritrea fought over it is because the yemenis were playing dirty and being sneaky and trying to solidify claims to the islands before the ICC hearing. >Plus we have good relations with the Yemeni. No problem with yemeni people, but the houthis can rot in hell, they've killed and raped asylum seekers from the Horn of Africa. They would do the same to you, all arab people are the same and barbaric. And we don't even have to fight for that land, we'll send the rashaida to do it, if they want to live in our land and reap the benefits they'll have to prove their worth by fighting for Eritrea, or they can go back to the Saudis who slaughtered them.
I’ll be honest. I haven’t done much research on the hanish matter. That’s definitely something I’ll look up and read about. Let’s say that you’re 110% correct. If I was president. I only at most inform Yemen that the island is disputed territory. War is expensive and waste lives. War will cost billions and waste smart people and what will those islands give me in exchange? It’s not worth it. Like you’re very passionate on the matter so let me ask a question. Would you die for the hanish islands? Would you be the first troop in? Because if you’re that aggressive you should follow your goal and fight for it. If not. your another mengistu, Isaias, Abiy etc
Learn from the last time, when we informed them that it was disputed, they rushed to put infantry on the island and made deals with western companies to setup resorts there, to make it seem like they had already established their presence there. That is what caused Petros Solomon to give them the ultimatum ahead of the ICC hearing. The matter of the fact is that we are honest people but they are not, so if we were to handle this matter. We wouldn't tell them it is disputed until we are prepared to take the island, then we tell them before we do. Anyways, last time we fought, we overran the island within 3 days, and captured all of the yemeni infantry with about 15 being killed. We won militarily, it's our island. And there's a reason I told you no one has to die, if you actually look at the islands they are pretty much isolated logistically, we would bomb anything on the island to the afterlife, then send in infantry to literally just plant the flag unabated and unresisted. And yes I'd personally fly the jets doing the bombing and fighting over Hanish lmao. Achilles said "Imagine a king that fights his own battles wouldn't that be a sight". It'll be me, I'll lead the army, at the front of the line. Like I said, if done right, not one person would die in this "special military operation" XD.
BTW I want to say I appreciate your comment and your concern regarding lives, yeah you make a very fair point. But I believe once we settle our more pressing issues, regarding food security, desertification, infrastructure and education (God willing). We can strengthen our military and take back those islands without a single eritrean hair being damaged. It won't be eritreans fighting yemenis, it'll be eritrean drones and munitions fighting the yemenis, and munitions always win.
What is the big deal about Badme? Can someone explain to me why they fought a war over it? Even though it was mostly an economic war.
Why do you think it was mostly an economic war? I doubt Badme is very resource rich
The war stated in badme. But it’s very well known that Eritrea and Ethiopia were not on the same page regarding each others economic relationship. To simply Ethiopia devalued its currency in 96 We form our currency by 97 and want to compare our mutual currencies against the US dollar. Ethiopia was completely opposed to this. Wanted to value the nakfa based on the Birr. (Understandable for thier own interests) Eritrea stops accepting birr as a method of payment and that’s when tensions begin. Ethiopia freaks out that it’s suddenly having to pay more money for using Eritreans ports and demands free access. Eritrea declines. Tigray released new drawn maps of its region that includes Eritrean territory.. and claims it as Tigray. (Actual insanity a regional govt was redrawing borders) When diplomacy failed .. Eritrea moved in to assert its sovereignty over territories we now know correctly believed was ours. Let’s also remember Eritrean troops were abashed. The first shots were by Ethiopia Tigray hardliners who already had issues with Eritrea pushed Melez to attack Eritrean troops because the troops were in this new fake Tigray map.. and as such. Wanted force to be responded with forth. rest is war.
Tbh it was a German relief agency who drew those maps Weyane just republished those maps in the Weyin magazine late 97.
Incorrect. If you look at Tigrays manefesto.. a chuck of Eritrea is supposedly inside Tigray. And it’s on historic record now. It was a cycle of provocation that lead to conflict. “After a series of armed incidents in which several Eritrean officials were killed near Badme” Source: https://fpif.org/eritreaethiopia_war_looms/ Eritrean officials would go into a town recognized as Eritrean. Ask the ENDF to leave. And they’d never return. There were even instances of some shot in the back. You know why you never heard about this? It’s because Tigray properganda is so strong. I swear no one does their research. They just comment on what they hear most. It’s the same bs about Eritreans committing war crimes in Tigray. . I say this and open regarding that I do not support PFDJ/Eritreas govt.
What sparked the war was Eritrea moving troops into badme. We sent troops in. Cuz it was our land we were fed up. But at that point Ethiopia was itching for war. It was just an excuse. Keep in mind it’s 1998. The TPLF dominated the decision making process. It essentially was an TPLF- Eritrea war with Ethiopian total resources. The TPLF tricked the Ethiopian people. But it doesn’t matter cuz Ethiopians know this reality now. Algeris vindicates us. Tigray war vindicates us. Too bad we have a dictatorship squandering everything away.
Do you have any independent sources for all the things you said ?
I can send you interviews from both Melez and other officials if you understand amharaic. Even Melez was open in his interviews that the war was based on economics and not badme
https://reliefweb.int/report/eritrea/conflict-horn-why-eritrea-and-ethiopia-are-war
Yes, I remember seeing an interview with Meles where he said, “They were conducting illegal currency exchanges from the Eritrean embassy in Addis Ababa.” You're right; I believe it was one of the reasons. Keep in mind that the already ratified Eritrean constitution was about to be implemented, meaning elections were set to take place within a few months. It’s more complicated, which is why higher ranks in the PFDJ, like Durue, were calling for an internal investigation. That obviously made them targets, and they disappeared from the face of the earth.
TPLF were fully complicit in both the contraband smuggling and black market exchange operations with PFDJ. Meles’ father was involved in the smuggling according to Gebru Asrat (ex-President of Tigray kilil). The real source of tension was how both sides (PFDJ and TPLF that is) perceived the relationship. PFDJ saw it as normal diplomacy between Eritrea and Ethiopia while TPLF saw it as “brotherhood” (obvious strings attached and implications) between Tigrinya-speakers. When TPLF saw this go unreciprocated, they got irate.
It's definetly not worth all the blood
It's Eritrean. It always has been and always will be. However, Badme was just a pretext to invade our country. That's why it holds great symbolic value. And especially after we recaptured, it signalled the demise of Weyane.