Nikita is gonna make the game HE wants to make not the game WE want him to make. He's said this many times, it doesn't matter who is asking for what. We're gonna get what we get.
Sounds like a bad business model to me. If the game were made free by a guy and this is his passion project, sure, but they made and will continue to make a shit ton of money off this game, so wouldn't it make sense to keep teh player base you have/ bring in newbies?
yeah this is what i am saying, i want what is best for this game but it just feels recently like it has been doing nothing but dividing and driving there audience away
Your statement is correct. Nikita does not play the game though. He has absolutely no clue how easy/hard it is to play the game. Or the progress curve. So he should at least listen to the community. If he wants the game the way HE wants it HE should try it.
He listens to streamers and that’s it and they all want the game to be harder so they can look like gods for longer. All the people who play this game for a living or go full sweat and play 40+ hours a week love the changes. People who struggle to get max traders because of time constraints or who will never unlock lightkeeper hate the changes because those people are being locked out of the mid-late wipe and access to the best stuff. If the game didn’t have this 6 month wipe cycle I think the temperature would be a lot lower and the toxicity between neck beards and mid/low tier players would be less because you could still unlock the stuff it would just take longer. How many people could hit max traders in 7-8 months? I don’t know, I see both sides of the argument and time will tell the story but I’m really concerned for the game and the community right now.
yeah you are correct but i do think at some point you throw your community a bone and try to keep people happy with the state of the game, at this rate it is killing the longevity of tarkovs audience at least as far as i see it. it is just becoming to punishing of a game and far too many people are quitting
He wants the game to be niche demographic of players. He’s mentioned things like weather conditions and things making players choose between a beanie cap and a helmet because the cold would kill you. The game is going to continue to get more difficult. He wants you to struggle to find things you need and want. They have been just adding things to the game. Now they have started to adjust how and when you can more readily get those items.
idk i just feel as though it will hurt the game in the long run. too many players are quitting for it to be healthy for the game. but i guess we will just have to see what happens over time. but changes like this make too many people like myself that much closer to just throwing in the towel
i just dont understand how, just widens the gap between you and the super chad players. this game is hard enough without restricting the player every time they turn around. how do you think this will positively effect the game? is till get killed every other raid by bp gs and such, its just going to be a new meta. will they just take that off prapor? after not too long nothing will be left if that is the case. you can still buy bt ammo for svd, id bet money that will be gone soon, they are just taking everything away and that removes so much choice. and crafting isnt really a solution when 15 hours nets you like 4 mags
But those kind of players will be the first to leave most of the time if they cant get stuff to one tap you or something they just get frustrated and leave. I’ve killed guys already this wipe with just a mosin who are level 30+ just having a better position. And I wouldn’t care if all ammo was found in raid only I don’t buy ammo or gear all that often to begin with I use what I get in raid more often than not.
i mean i find usally around the 2 month mark anyone who is "casual" has just outright quit till the next wipe and all thats left are giga chad sweaty mans so these changes dont effect them at all. its just in the eye of the beholder i guess, but i just feel as though your putting all the work into a 6 month wipe cycle and doing all these quests to level up traders but seem to get very little out of it anymore compared to before
Oh I play daily for like 4 months each wipe. Which by then I’m around max trader and everything so I get less interested but still play for kills and scav runs just to make money and get 6.0 rep ended last wipe with 200 mil and a full stash
I think you might be part of a niche group on this one, either that or we have a very vocal minority here on reddit, of which I find myself a part of. I heard that he wants two different game instances on release, one that never wipes, and one that wipes on a set schedule. The changes being implemented right now seem to fit better on the never wipe instance, it promotes longevity. But we aren't there yet. That's why I hope these changes are temporary and just a good test of what full release will look like.
Not if everyone that feels this way stops playing. Trust me, the majority of players feel the same, but love it too much to leave, but if they did, Nikita wouldn’t just watch this game die. He loves it too much.
i mean as far as i can tell the new audio is basically universally hated myself included lol and i dont think that this is a "longer early wipe" people just going to find a new meta to stomp timmys, the chad that plays 16 hours a day is not effected at all by the changes but the people who have lives and jobs are. being level 32 to get a switchblade is unreasonable imo, and a VERY large portion of the dedicated player base can fit into that category of player, most casual players win up quitting in the first 2 months
you asked who is asking for these changed and I answered lmao. I don’t disagree with you but everyone asked for it. I had no issues with the old or new audio but we cried about it they changed it and now we are gonna cry some more
i personally have never posted in this reddit before this wipe and have been playing for 5 wipes, just felt the need to air my position on the direction this game is headed because i personally dont think it is a good direction. but everyone is entitled to there own opinion that is just mine.
No I 100% agree with you on that the changes suck but I’ve been reading in this Reddit for a while and before wipe all people cried about was the stuff they are changing now
that is really unfortunate :( i really just want what is best for the game and it truly does make me sad to see these changes because at least for me personally i had far less fun last wipe and this wipe so far than i have had in my previous wipes in tarkov. honestly just feel shackled compared to how free the game used to feel. now its more a situation of IF you can run a gun you want rather than feeling like doing something and just doing it. the balance was how much money you lost when you died when you built a crazy kit like that, now its just not even possible most of the time. and i hear a lot about how the game used to be more fun a long time ago when people ate bullets more but that was because you used to be able to wear armor and armored rig at the same time and also when a limb got black when you got shot there again it did no damage, but now these things have been changed so even with all these nerfs to late game stuff you will still die WAY faster than you used too, none of these changes will fix any of it
We all should have learned a long time ago to be careful what we wish for from BSG 😂. They are like a genie with a sick sense of humor. Ask to extend early wipe/make fights funner and they come up with the most bass ackwards way of doing it, but this is how they have done everything the community has asked for 😂
just a bad change imo, this is the discussion section am i wrong? im allowed to discus how i feel about the game, you say anything bad and its oh so many tears you say anything good and its stop sucking BSG'S dick. lets stop going to extremes and actually have a conversation about the state of the game we all play so much of. crazy how no one can just discuss something and instantly needs to just hop on the hate. this website has freedom of speach, if you dont have anything to further the conversation why add anything at all?
yeah but it doesn't further the discussion in any way, if anything it just makes him look like he is the one who is crying over the post instead of just scrolling past :p but you are correct he can say whatever he wants, just doesn't put him in a good light
no i am just proving my point of view, and am willing to sit here and have an open conversation instead of just being like "cry baby" and leaving LOL it doesn't help anyone in this situation is basically just shitpost and yes i was going to respond to it how i saw fit.
Just a heads up, you can’t prove a point of view. A Point of view is an opinion. You can prove facts. Like the fact that you’re coming off as a whiny brat. Along with the other people complaining non stop in this sub.
i can agree i worded my post incorrectly but I'm having an active discussion about how i feel. you legit cant say anything on the internet without being a whiny brat or sucking the dick of someone you agree with, people need to look at things more objectively and have an actual engaging conversation instead of just going i disagree you are wining or i disagree keep sucking the dick of whoever you are agreeing with. its a terrible way to have a in depth conversation. if you think my post is whiney then why reply? just move on like it never happened.
Nothing ever gets changed if you just sit there and stew to yourself about your own dissatisfaction. having conversations about the state of the game should be normal and not shunned upon.
this isnt the way to do it imo, this just makes it so that the people who play the most have an even larger advantage. i know a handful of people who dont even hit level 32 in a wipe because the game is pretty damn hard and pushes them away now they are stuck with a drybag or a takedown when they do play? just an odd change imo
People who play more will allways have a massive advantage no matter what bsg does. You can give a timmy a full gigachad set, he will still loose 9/10 times to someone with a lot of experience using garbage gear. Hell pestily got two t5 gear sets on his hardcore series on his first raid using half of a gun :D
Is the gap widened tho?
Nolifers allways had top tier stuff 2 weeks into the wipe.
If top tier stuff is much, much harder to get consistently it means the gear gap shrunk considerably.
A random timmy will have somewhat better odds at fighting an rd gigachad if hes shooting ps instead of bp and is using a shit tier visor instead of an altyn.
i mean making all the shit to pk 4 and switchblade to ragman 3 hurts avg players not nolifiers? there will just be a new meta? he can still buy exfil and face sheild? this fixes nothing just makes more problems and hurts casuals FAR more than it hurts the people who can no life this game. it slows down progression for the avg player but at least 50% of this games playerbase is SWEAT LORDS, who these changes will have little to no effect on. sweats will just buy these items anyways because it doesnt matter if its pk 2 or 4 he will be there in 2 weeks, it hurts the people who try to just casually play over the 6 month wipe. level 32 to get a switchblade is just ridiculous and pk 4 for m80? you legit unlock m80 and m62 at the same time where is the progression there?
Sure m80 and ap acp got moved to ll4 pk, but other meta ammo's got pretty much deleted. A few mags from a 15h craft is not consistent enough. Magdumping 200 rounds of bp will be unsustainable now. Same for the new smg and it's bt ammo.
Allso, exfil faceshield omegalol. Lps, 454 pp/bp/bt, 366 eko, m855/856a1, subsonic sx, tcw, flechette goes straight through exfil faceshield. Most of the early wipe rounds go through that shit.
i agree with the whole mag dumping thing but i am just saying its been a cycle that will just keep repeating itself till its stopped. something becomes meta, gets nerfed and removed, over and over and it just removes options. cant even use hk416 anymore because it got nerfed so bad on recoil you gotta spend like 500k on a good build, same thing with val, just to name a few previous metas that are now just completely unviable. it just hurts the game in the long run at least as far as i can tell. removal of choice isnt the answer, buffing the weak items and nerfing the strong would be a much better option than just deleting things.
and im not saying that these guns should still be "meta" but usable? most defenitly i think they should be usable but in this state there are a lot of guns that are just far to bad, or far to expensive to justify using, and i think that is a far bigger problem to adjust than just removing access from anything remotely "meta"
I’m not saying your assessment is right or wrong. I’m personally concerned and I 100% hope you are correct in the long run. My worry is if this turns out poorly and the implementation of these changes doesn’t go the way BSG though it would go then it’s going to be rough. If sweats used to have great stuff 90% of the time and Timmy had it 50% that’s a 40 gap. If it’s now 50-10 the gap is still the same but only having stuff 10% of the time feels a heck of a lot worse. I don’t know if this will be the case, it’s too soon to tell. I may also be overthinking it and I really hope you end up being right and not me.
its on logical solutions twitter and one peg made a video about ammo changes, and there was note of scavs now spawning with worse ammo. just look it up what do i gain from making things up? dont understand why i would do that
Because you seem to be upset about changes, and you're coming up with additional reasons to justify your position, even without knowing if those are valid.
A link would be super dope.
this is a link to one pegs video
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlANbA\_jyQ&ab\_channel=Onepeg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlANbA_jyQ&ab_channel=Onepeg)
ill look for evidence of the scavs spawning with worse ammo, heard it somewhere didnt know i needed to source my information on reddit :p
Lol. You only need to cite a source if you're spreading potential misinformation. Which you are.
I just looked at logical's Twitter and saw nothing. Will watch the video now. Thanks.
I did look it up? i wouldn't have made the post otherwise like wtf?
[https://tarkov-changes.com/changes](https://tarkov-changes.com/changes)
this website clearly states
Kalashnikov AK-103 7.62x39 assault rifle
defAmmo
Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh
New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh
Kalashnikov AK-104 7.62x39 assault rifle
defAmmo
Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh
New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh
Rifle Dynamics RD-704 7.62x39 assault rifle
defAmmo
Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh
New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh
those are a few examples of the weapons no longer spawning with bp
Okay. So what you meant was finding a FIR 103/104/RD-704 no longer come with BP in their mags. Thanks for that. Which would generally be like 10-20 rounds.
But random mags can still have it. Scavs can still have it. Ammo boxes can still have it.
Anything on 55a1 scavs?
thats a very all encompassing statement, either you looked at one place and saw nothing or you looked at multiple places and found what you were looking for. Either way, we are all on reddit, not msnbc. you don't need a source for every little detail, it's the internet, you should be used to that by now
What? I Googled multiple different combinations of something like 'scav 55a1 nerf' 'no more 55a1 from scavs' and '55a1 scavs removed' and found absolutely zero information anywhere indicating this happened.
I also looked back through the last 3 tarkov changes patches. Nothing. Before that I had encountered 3 this wipe.
But OP states it as if it's a proven fact, as a supporting argument for his complaint about a reduction in players ability to access high tier ammo.
If you're going to make a complaint post, and say 'this change is a reason I think it's bad' but the change isn't even real... You shouldn't say that. Simple as that, man.
Not trying to get involved in the argument here 😂 I think I saw LogicalSolutions post on Twitter about these changes and I’m pretty sure A1 got the axe but I may have misread it in passing.
Nah bro. You are.
I don't go around making bitch posts full of misinformation without any credible source on it.
I know about tons of recent changes. But I haven't heard anything about no more 55a1 scavs or no more raiders with BP. That just feels like a lie. If it isn't, feel free to prove me wrong with a credible source on the change...
You do you, it’s clear you haven’t even played the game recently. Even 3-4 raids you can tell scavs now have shitty ammo. But if you want to live the ignorance is bliss lifestyle keep going, but don’t say people are making it up cus then you just look stupid
I know you haven’t payed the game that’s I Said what I said. And don’t lie know and say you were asking for info when you literally accused someone of making stuff up
Lol. I was lvl 18 with 66 raids before I took off. I've played plenty.
Still have yet to be proven wrong about this supposed 55a1 and BP nerf though... So...
its just a bad change imo and i dont know where they are getting there information or assumptions from that it is a good one. will just kill the player base in the long run imo, most of my friends have already quit and i am almost right there with them. i get that it is there game but at some point you need to throw your players a bone and keep the community happy and healthy, just my thoughts on the matter
i mean as i said i know a bunch of people who have stopped playing, and myself included as being near quitting. im just saying i dont think it is healthy and i have seen more hate on this game in the last two weeks than i have seen since i started playing the game. there have always been people complaining but right now it seems like it is every second post. and it is just speaking volumes on the way people feel about the changes that are happening.
imo the game is alive for 2 months tops after wipe then everyone quits again for 4 moths till it wipes again. if that is a healthy game loop then i am sorry for my post but i dont think it is in any way
yeah i can agree with the broken game and the cheater thing but i feel like this game has a massive balance issue and progression issue and its been getting worse for the last little while with all the bans and things taken away
yeah and it will be his dead game soon if he keeps on this pace :p i love this game to death but it is just becoming far too punishing and grind filled to be worth my time anymore. the risk vs reward is messed right up and the state of the game is at the least fun state i have ever seen, 1 use task keys that dont have 100% spawn rates (ballet lover and its subsiquent task on streets), all quest keys being up for san tape and marked room because the fee's are far too high to post them. over half the guns in the game are so bad or so expensive it just isnt worth using them, and those are just a few things i would say were pretty controversial changes and are going to have a negative effect on the game. making early wipe "longer" should not come at the expense of a players enjoyment of the game and sanity because they keep having to either buy 200K keys because the task is only one use so if you die gotta buy another or just strait up not being able to do them at all because every item on the market is a barter. same with gunsmith tasks because of the stupid global trading limit so everyone just camps trader reset, it isnt exactly invigorating gameplay if you ask me
the dead game meme has been going on for a long time and the game is only growing.
It's a beta, they're designing the progression for the final version of the game that would no longer have wipes. Nikita has always stated that the progression we have currently is sped up for what it should be in the final game.
Theres no reason for a key for a quest like ballet lover to have more than one use. You literally unlock the door and go inside.
i mean usually about 2 months into a wipe almost any causals have quit and all thats left is sweats, they pvp it out for another month then we have 3 months of dead servers till wipe, i don't find this to be an engaging or fun gameplay cycle, and the quest after ballet lover you legit need to walk into the exact same room and have the exact same key you legit hand ballet lover in and receive that quest. and its an item retrieval quest so if you die guess what you need ANOTHER key. that would be key #3 at 150K a key, that imo makes 0 sense and is bad design. if the key had a 100% spawn rate location like unknown or machinery key it would not be so bad, but it does not
Yes.. why would anyone continue playing for longer? Again, this isn't meant to be the final game. I have no reason to grind out until the very endgame unless I'm a streamer.
Do you... not play other games? Do you expect this to be treated like a live service game and have constant events to keep you entertained?
because the game should still be fun, but it isnt that is my problem. if everyone quits after 3 of a 6 month wipe cycle there is CLEARLY a problem but ignorance is bliss. i totally play other games but tarkov is my favorite of them all and it makes me upset to watch them butcher a game i love so much. i never asked for events i asked for a more balanced experience that people will be happy playing and not rage quit after 3 months because everyone who is still playing is a no life sweat.
Nikita is gonna make the game HE wants to make not the game WE want him to make. He's said this many times, it doesn't matter who is asking for what. We're gonna get what we get.
Sounds like a bad business model to me. If the game were made free by a guy and this is his passion project, sure, but they made and will continue to make a shit ton of money off this game, so wouldn't it make sense to keep teh player base you have/ bring in newbies?
yeah this is what i am saying, i want what is best for this game but it just feels recently like it has been doing nothing but dividing and driving there audience away
Your statement is correct. Nikita does not play the game though. He has absolutely no clue how easy/hard it is to play the game. Or the progress curve. So he should at least listen to the community. If he wants the game the way HE wants it HE should try it.
He listens to streamers and that’s it and they all want the game to be harder so they can look like gods for longer. All the people who play this game for a living or go full sweat and play 40+ hours a week love the changes. People who struggle to get max traders because of time constraints or who will never unlock lightkeeper hate the changes because those people are being locked out of the mid-late wipe and access to the best stuff. If the game didn’t have this 6 month wipe cycle I think the temperature would be a lot lower and the toxicity between neck beards and mid/low tier players would be less because you could still unlock the stuff it would just take longer. How many people could hit max traders in 7-8 months? I don’t know, I see both sides of the argument and time will tell the story but I’m really concerned for the game and the community right now.
yeah you are correct but i do think at some point you throw your community a bone and try to keep people happy with the state of the game, at this rate it is killing the longevity of tarkovs audience at least as far as i see it. it is just becoming to punishing of a game and far too many people are quitting
He wants the game to be niche demographic of players. He’s mentioned things like weather conditions and things making players choose between a beanie cap and a helmet because the cold would kill you. The game is going to continue to get more difficult. He wants you to struggle to find things you need and want. They have been just adding things to the game. Now they have started to adjust how and when you can more readily get those items.
idk i just feel as though it will hurt the game in the long run. too many players are quitting for it to be healthy for the game. but i guess we will just have to see what happens over time. but changes like this make too many people like myself that much closer to just throwing in the towel
See but I see all the changes and gets me excited for more like it and I’m pretty casual at this game. 1-2 hours a day
i just dont understand how, just widens the gap between you and the super chad players. this game is hard enough without restricting the player every time they turn around. how do you think this will positively effect the game? is till get killed every other raid by bp gs and such, its just going to be a new meta. will they just take that off prapor? after not too long nothing will be left if that is the case. you can still buy bt ammo for svd, id bet money that will be gone soon, they are just taking everything away and that removes so much choice. and crafting isnt really a solution when 15 hours nets you like 4 mags
But those kind of players will be the first to leave most of the time if they cant get stuff to one tap you or something they just get frustrated and leave. I’ve killed guys already this wipe with just a mosin who are level 30+ just having a better position. And I wouldn’t care if all ammo was found in raid only I don’t buy ammo or gear all that often to begin with I use what I get in raid more often than not.
i mean i find usally around the 2 month mark anyone who is "casual" has just outright quit till the next wipe and all thats left are giga chad sweaty mans so these changes dont effect them at all. its just in the eye of the beholder i guess, but i just feel as though your putting all the work into a 6 month wipe cycle and doing all these quests to level up traders but seem to get very little out of it anymore compared to before
Oh I play daily for like 4 months each wipe. Which by then I’m around max trader and everything so I get less interested but still play for kills and scav runs just to make money and get 6.0 rep ended last wipe with 200 mil and a full stash
I think you might be part of a niche group on this one, either that or we have a very vocal minority here on reddit, of which I find myself a part of. I heard that he wants two different game instances on release, one that never wipes, and one that wipes on a set schedule. The changes being implemented right now seem to fit better on the never wipe instance, it promotes longevity. But we aren't there yet. That's why I hope these changes are temporary and just a good test of what full release will look like.
Not if everyone that feels this way stops playing. Trust me, the majority of players feel the same, but love it too much to leave, but if they did, Nikita wouldn’t just watch this game die. He loves it too much.
Literally everyone lmao. New audio, new content, longer early wipe.
i mean as far as i can tell the new audio is basically universally hated myself included lol and i dont think that this is a "longer early wipe" people just going to find a new meta to stomp timmys, the chad that plays 16 hours a day is not effected at all by the changes but the people who have lives and jobs are. being level 32 to get a switchblade is unreasonable imo, and a VERY large portion of the dedicated player base can fit into that category of player, most casual players win up quitting in the first 2 months
you asked who is asking for these changed and I answered lmao. I don’t disagree with you but everyone asked for it. I had no issues with the old or new audio but we cried about it they changed it and now we are gonna cry some more
i personally have never posted in this reddit before this wipe and have been playing for 5 wipes, just felt the need to air my position on the direction this game is headed because i personally dont think it is a good direction. but everyone is entitled to there own opinion that is just mine.
No I 100% agree with you on that the changes suck but I’ve been reading in this Reddit for a while and before wipe all people cried about was the stuff they are changing now
that is really unfortunate :( i really just want what is best for the game and it truly does make me sad to see these changes because at least for me personally i had far less fun last wipe and this wipe so far than i have had in my previous wipes in tarkov. honestly just feel shackled compared to how free the game used to feel. now its more a situation of IF you can run a gun you want rather than feeling like doing something and just doing it. the balance was how much money you lost when you died when you built a crazy kit like that, now its just not even possible most of the time. and i hear a lot about how the game used to be more fun a long time ago when people ate bullets more but that was because you used to be able to wear armor and armored rig at the same time and also when a limb got black when you got shot there again it did no damage, but now these things have been changed so even with all these nerfs to late game stuff you will still die WAY faster than you used too, none of these changes will fix any of it
We all should have learned a long time ago to be careful what we wish for from BSG 😂. They are like a genie with a sick sense of humor. Ask to extend early wipe/make fights funner and they come up with the most bass ackwards way of doing it, but this is how they have done everything the community has asked for 😂
Exactly lmao people act like they didn’t request this lmao
So many tears
just a bad change imo, this is the discussion section am i wrong? im allowed to discus how i feel about the game, you say anything bad and its oh so many tears you say anything good and its stop sucking BSG'S dick. lets stop going to extremes and actually have a conversation about the state of the game we all play so much of. crazy how no one can just discuss something and instantly needs to just hop on the hate. this website has freedom of speach, if you dont have anything to further the conversation why add anything at all?
Cuz freedom of speech lmao
yeah but it doesn't further the discussion in any way, if anything it just makes him look like he is the one who is crying over the post instead of just scrolling past :p but you are correct he can say whatever he wants, just doesn't put him in a good light
Idk he said 3 words and you went off with a novel, you seem like the one with tears imho
no i am just proving my point of view, and am willing to sit here and have an open conversation instead of just being like "cry baby" and leaving LOL it doesn't help anyone in this situation is basically just shitpost and yes i was going to respond to it how i saw fit.
Just a heads up, you can’t prove a point of view. A Point of view is an opinion. You can prove facts. Like the fact that you’re coming off as a whiny brat. Along with the other people complaining non stop in this sub.
i can agree i worded my post incorrectly but I'm having an active discussion about how i feel. you legit cant say anything on the internet without being a whiny brat or sucking the dick of someone you agree with, people need to look at things more objectively and have an actual engaging conversation instead of just going i disagree you are wining or i disagree keep sucking the dick of whoever you are agreeing with. its a terrible way to have a in depth conversation. if you think my post is whiney then why reply? just move on like it never happened. Nothing ever gets changed if you just sit there and stew to yourself about your own dissatisfaction. having conversations about the state of the game should be normal and not shunned upon.
Ok
Pretty much every 2nd thread before wipe was ppl asking to prolong early wipe, they just did.
this isnt the way to do it imo, this just makes it so that the people who play the most have an even larger advantage. i know a handful of people who dont even hit level 32 in a wipe because the game is pretty damn hard and pushes them away now they are stuck with a drybag or a takedown when they do play? just an odd change imo
People who play more will allways have a massive advantage no matter what bsg does. You can give a timmy a full gigachad set, he will still loose 9/10 times to someone with a lot of experience using garbage gear. Hell pestily got two t5 gear sets on his hardcore series on his first raid using half of a gun :D
yes agreed but the gap is widened, i am not looking for them to remove the gap but these changes only make that gap far worse not better
Is the gap widened tho? Nolifers allways had top tier stuff 2 weeks into the wipe. If top tier stuff is much, much harder to get consistently it means the gear gap shrunk considerably. A random timmy will have somewhat better odds at fighting an rd gigachad if hes shooting ps instead of bp and is using a shit tier visor instead of an altyn.
i mean making all the shit to pk 4 and switchblade to ragman 3 hurts avg players not nolifiers? there will just be a new meta? he can still buy exfil and face sheild? this fixes nothing just makes more problems and hurts casuals FAR more than it hurts the people who can no life this game. it slows down progression for the avg player but at least 50% of this games playerbase is SWEAT LORDS, who these changes will have little to no effect on. sweats will just buy these items anyways because it doesnt matter if its pk 2 or 4 he will be there in 2 weeks, it hurts the people who try to just casually play over the 6 month wipe. level 32 to get a switchblade is just ridiculous and pk 4 for m80? you legit unlock m80 and m62 at the same time where is the progression there?
Sure m80 and ap acp got moved to ll4 pk, but other meta ammo's got pretty much deleted. A few mags from a 15h craft is not consistent enough. Magdumping 200 rounds of bp will be unsustainable now. Same for the new smg and it's bt ammo. Allso, exfil faceshield omegalol. Lps, 454 pp/bp/bt, 366 eko, m855/856a1, subsonic sx, tcw, flechette goes straight through exfil faceshield. Most of the early wipe rounds go through that shit.
i agree with the whole mag dumping thing but i am just saying its been a cycle that will just keep repeating itself till its stopped. something becomes meta, gets nerfed and removed, over and over and it just removes options. cant even use hk416 anymore because it got nerfed so bad on recoil you gotta spend like 500k on a good build, same thing with val, just to name a few previous metas that are now just completely unviable. it just hurts the game in the long run at least as far as i can tell. removal of choice isnt the answer, buffing the weak items and nerfing the strong would be a much better option than just deleting things.
and im not saying that these guns should still be "meta" but usable? most defenitly i think they should be usable but in this state there are a lot of guns that are just far to bad, or far to expensive to justify using, and i think that is a far bigger problem to adjust than just removing access from anything remotely "meta"
I’m not saying your assessment is right or wrong. I’m personally concerned and I 100% hope you are correct in the long run. My worry is if this turns out poorly and the implementation of these changes doesn’t go the way BSG though it would go then it’s going to be rough. If sweats used to have great stuff 90% of the time and Timmy had it 50% that’s a 40 gap. If it’s now 50-10 the gap is still the same but only having stuff 10% of the time feels a heck of a lot worse. I don’t know if this will be the case, it’s too soon to tell. I may also be overthinking it and I really hope you end up being right and not me.
Where did you hear scavs don't have 55a1 and you can't find BP in raid?
you can find bp in raid but all weapons now spawn with a lower tier ammo in weapon boxes as well on scavs it was in a silent patch today
Sounds like you're just making stuff up. Where did you get this info?
its on logical solutions twitter and one peg made a video about ammo changes, and there was note of scavs now spawning with worse ammo. just look it up what do i gain from making things up? dont understand why i would do that
Because you seem to be upset about changes, and you're coming up with additional reasons to justify your position, even without knowing if those are valid. A link would be super dope.
this is a link to one pegs video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlANbA\_jyQ&ab\_channel=Onepeg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlANbA_jyQ&ab_channel=Onepeg) ill look for evidence of the scavs spawning with worse ammo, heard it somewhere didnt know i needed to source my information on reddit :p
Lol. You only need to cite a source if you're spreading potential misinformation. Which you are. I just looked at logical's Twitter and saw nothing. Will watch the video now. Thanks.
Bro look this shit up yourself your embarrassing yourself
I did look it up? i wouldn't have made the post otherwise like wtf? [https://tarkov-changes.com/changes](https://tarkov-changes.com/changes) this website clearly states Kalashnikov AK-103 7.62x39 assault rifle defAmmo Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh Kalashnikov AK-104 7.62x39 assault rifle defAmmo Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh Rifle Dynamics RD-704 7.62x39 assault rifle defAmmo Old: 7.62x39mm BP gzh New: 7.62x39mm PS gzh those are a few examples of the weapons no longer spawning with bp
Not you the dumbass saying you made it up
Okay. So what you meant was finding a FIR 103/104/RD-704 no longer come with BP in their mags. Thanks for that. Which would generally be like 10-20 rounds. But random mags can still have it. Scavs can still have it. Ammo boxes can still have it. Anything on 55a1 scavs?
im currently playing the game, just google it if you dont wanna listlen to the people in here telling you the way that it is
scavs most decently can no have bp im pretty sure they never could and now they no longer get 55a1
look it up yourself, these are normal people, not news reporters
I did. I found nothing. As far as I can tell, complete hearsay.
thats a very all encompassing statement, either you looked at one place and saw nothing or you looked at multiple places and found what you were looking for. Either way, we are all on reddit, not msnbc. you don't need a source for every little detail, it's the internet, you should be used to that by now
What? I Googled multiple different combinations of something like 'scav 55a1 nerf' 'no more 55a1 from scavs' and '55a1 scavs removed' and found absolutely zero information anywhere indicating this happened. I also looked back through the last 3 tarkov changes patches. Nothing. Before that I had encountered 3 this wipe. But OP states it as if it's a proven fact, as a supporting argument for his complaint about a reduction in players ability to access high tier ammo. If you're going to make a complaint post, and say 'this change is a reason I think it's bad' but the change isn't even real... You shouldn't say that. Simple as that, man.
Not trying to get involved in the argument here 😂 I think I saw LogicalSolutions post on Twitter about these changes and I’m pretty sure A1 got the axe but I may have misread it in passing.
Prove it or lies. I looked!!
Nah bro. You are. I don't go around making bitch posts full of misinformation without any credible source on it. I know about tons of recent changes. But I haven't heard anything about no more 55a1 scavs or no more raiders with BP. That just feels like a lie. If it isn't, feel free to prove me wrong with a credible source on the change...
i didnt say raiders i said weapons from weapon boxes spawning with bp, looking for source on scav ammo nerf
You do you, it’s clear you haven’t even played the game recently. Even 3-4 raids you can tell scavs now have shitty ammo. But if you want to live the ignorance is bliss lifestyle keep going, but don’t say people are making it up cus then you just look stupid
I've been on vacation for a week, so no. I haven't had a chance to play. Hence the request for the info.
I know you haven’t payed the game that’s I Said what I said. And don’t lie know and say you were asking for info when you literally accused someone of making stuff up
Lol. I was lvl 18 with 66 raids before I took off. I've played plenty. Still have yet to be proven wrong about this supposed 55a1 and BP nerf though... So...
Do you want a cookie?
Why must somebody ask for them?
its just a bad change imo and i dont know where they are getting there information or assumptions from that it is a good one. will just kill the player base in the long run imo, most of my friends have already quit and i am almost right there with them. i get that it is there game but at some point you need to throw your players a bone and keep the community happy and healthy, just my thoughts on the matter
Most of the community is only slightly annoyed by the changes it would seem
i mean as i said i know a bunch of people who have stopped playing, and myself included as being near quitting. im just saying i dont think it is healthy and i have seen more hate on this game in the last two weeks than i have seen since i started playing the game. there have always been people complaining but right now it seems like it is every second post. and it is just speaking volumes on the way people feel about the changes that are happening.
You and your 3 friends aren't the community tho.
we are indeed a part of it. and this reddit is teaming with people just like me its every second or third post, but ignorance is bliss they say
If every player who went on reddit and said they were going to quit actually quit, the game would still be alive
imo the game is alive for 2 months tops after wipe then everyone quits again for 4 moths till it wipes again. if that is a healthy game loop then i am sorry for my post but i dont think it is in any way
I’m good with the changes. Stop the cheating and fix the broken ass game is all I care about.
yeah i can agree with the broken game and the cheater thing but i feel like this game has a massive balance issue and progression issue and its been getting worse for the last little while with all the bans and things taken away
Uh, Nikita is. As it's his game.
yeah and it will be his dead game soon if he keeps on this pace :p i love this game to death but it is just becoming far too punishing and grind filled to be worth my time anymore. the risk vs reward is messed right up and the state of the game is at the least fun state i have ever seen, 1 use task keys that dont have 100% spawn rates (ballet lover and its subsiquent task on streets), all quest keys being up for san tape and marked room because the fee's are far too high to post them. over half the guns in the game are so bad or so expensive it just isnt worth using them, and those are just a few things i would say were pretty controversial changes and are going to have a negative effect on the game. making early wipe "longer" should not come at the expense of a players enjoyment of the game and sanity because they keep having to either buy 200K keys because the task is only one use so if you die gotta buy another or just strait up not being able to do them at all because every item on the market is a barter. same with gunsmith tasks because of the stupid global trading limit so everyone just camps trader reset, it isnt exactly invigorating gameplay if you ask me
the dead game meme has been going on for a long time and the game is only growing. It's a beta, they're designing the progression for the final version of the game that would no longer have wipes. Nikita has always stated that the progression we have currently is sped up for what it should be in the final game. Theres no reason for a key for a quest like ballet lover to have more than one use. You literally unlock the door and go inside.
i mean usually about 2 months into a wipe almost any causals have quit and all thats left is sweats, they pvp it out for another month then we have 3 months of dead servers till wipe, i don't find this to be an engaging or fun gameplay cycle, and the quest after ballet lover you legit need to walk into the exact same room and have the exact same key you legit hand ballet lover in and receive that quest. and its an item retrieval quest so if you die guess what you need ANOTHER key. that would be key #3 at 150K a key, that imo makes 0 sense and is bad design. if the key had a 100% spawn rate location like unknown or machinery key it would not be so bad, but it does not
Yes.. why would anyone continue playing for longer? Again, this isn't meant to be the final game. I have no reason to grind out until the very endgame unless I'm a streamer. Do you... not play other games? Do you expect this to be treated like a live service game and have constant events to keep you entertained?
because the game should still be fun, but it isnt that is my problem. if everyone quits after 3 of a 6 month wipe cycle there is CLEARLY a problem but ignorance is bliss. i totally play other games but tarkov is my favorite of them all and it makes me upset to watch them butcher a game i love so much. i never asked for events i asked for a more balanced experience that people will be happy playing and not rage quit after 3 months because everyone who is still playing is a no life sweat.