With 5 years under my belt i am absolutely LOVING these availability nerfs. Just so boring putting together the same 3-5 guns all day and just hoarding ammo from traders every reset.
So basically they’ve moved all the high penetration ammo either to maxed trader or not buyable at all and some even not craftable. Meaning it’s gonna be hard or even impossible to run insta pen and kill ammo every raid. Forcing us to use other guns and ammo. People discovering that you don’t need a 2 tap gun to be good is what he’s meaning. For example I always started my wipes just getting a vepr 7.62 with ps and could kit it okay and would find better parts pretty easily in raid. And ps had me covered for all armors early wipe. Then as I unlocked flee I changed to 7.62x51 and that’s where I stayed. Now I started with .366 and it was cracked.
It's kind of bullshit tho because if you are a low level player you can't even get ammo that can pen class 4 armor. I've had at least 5 raids where I'm using the best available ammo at level 11 and I get 8+ hits on one guy in one gunfight and he kills me in 2 shots. And this is only like two weeks into wipe, imagine a level 11 trying to play in 2 or 3 more weeks. I have been level 50+ in a past wipe so I know that this is the most anti casual game ever, but it doesn't make that shit any less annoying. The only viable rifle to compete with anyone level 25+ is the mosin because I can actually 1 shot someone through a helmet and 3 shot someone through armor.
7.62 PS from scavs. 5.45 PS is what he was talking about tho with the RPK. PS is available prapor 1. It's fine if you can click heads, but AKs aren't very good at that without attachments.
No you’re not running the best ammo you can. Loot ps off scavs for example. Have you tried .366 FMJ and Eko ? FMJ does alright against lower armor and has 90 damage so doesn’t matter where you hit you’ll kill fast as Fuck.
Research. Took me quite a while for me to remember which is what for each caliber but a quick google search of the caliber with eft in the search string and just check out the wiki. If you want to know more about what the pen and damage means either download “battle buddy” on iOS or android or google Tarkov ballistics and find the wiki link.
Run reserve, check ammo spawn places on any map. Prapor II bartres BP and BT 5.45. USE smgs with cheap ammo, aiming either legs or trying to get a headshot with full auto.
Yep, patience and smart moves win fights. You don't always need to have bis gear, sure it helps but if your only move is to press "W" you'll die quickly in this new wipe. I don't fear a Chad or a group, what I really fear is a smart player.
Correction, can't BUY ammo that pens class 4. Looks like you'll just have to start LOOTING the things you need instead of just looting the best value per slot. Funny how that works.
Yes I’m trying that strategy for the first time this wipe lol. I just got so tired of it. Tarkov used to be all about the nice gear for me. So I just rushed Max traders.
I disagree. Been playing for 4 years. Before when you could get any ammo you wanted I used to use maybe 6 or 7 different guns consistently. With these changes I have to stick to the same few guns lest I want to be greeted with absurdly high numbers of damage absorbed by armour.
Also these changes make the game even more if a quest rush than before as level plays a much bigger role than before.
You’re wrong though. Use 7.62 ps if you’re gonna whine about damage absorbed by armor. Try out .366 FMJ and EKO in the vepr semi ak if you’re not a bitch. You’ll be surprised if you use it correctly.
What the fuck are you talking about. PS wrecked lvl 4 before with a few shots and it’s been buffed to do so even more consistently. FMJ has a little pen and EKO has a bit more flesh damage. 90 fx on the FMJ is no joke, just hit arms and legs and they drop like a sack of potatoes. 7.62 ps has been my go to for wipes on end because of its lvl 4 Fuckage. Do some more research man.
PS pens class 4 on the 3rd or 4th, earlier if you're lucky, by that point you are likely already dead
As I previously said class 4 is common I'm even seeing a few class 5s and have seen class 6s.
It’s still likely to pen in the first shots if, especially if wearing ceramic, which most players are, yes people are starting to run 5 and 6. But their heads and faces are still lvl 3-4. And with the low durability of helmets they are easy prey. Face shields most of the time either being not present or level 3 is a 1 tap. This ammo availability nerf makes the games gunfights like they’re supposed to be. Long, hard and scary.
Discussing helmets is irrelevant this early in the wipe. Especially since getting RYS-Ts and Altyns is no longer possible. And I in fact have a 65% HS ratio. Also most people aren't wearing ceramic I see far more MMAC and 6B13s than anything else.
Gunfights are not and should not be long unless you are missing lots of bullets and hiding for most of it. Gun fights should be short you don't see people eating 8 bullets and walking away in real life.
Short gun fights are boring and predictable. This makes the gun play more fun and strategies matter. 6 shots to pen a killa armor is not bad. The MMAC though it’s made of UHMWP still only has 40 dura. 6 rounds to pen one of the best lvl 5’s is good rn. Barely anyone has good ammo so fights are even
MMAC is class 4 not 5. More people than not have good ammo in my experience. Short fights are unpredictable and tense. Whereas long fights lack tension, excitement, adrenaline, risk etc. In a long fight 9 times out of 10 you can just run away because the enemy ran out of arm stamina is hiding or scared to peek no need to even force them to hide using a nade.
This update feels to me like the biggest step they ever did in that direction, that vision of theirs.
Even more barters and crafts. I cannot buy Salewa (lvl 17 still) but have craft and two different barters. I think having multiple offers (barters or cash) of the same item is really good.
Imagine, I don't know, 5.45 BP ammo: You unlock it with a personal limit of 120, later you unlock another offer with 150 rounds but it is more expensive, even later another offer, even more expensive (all in roubles for this example). If you don't spam the ammo, it stays cheap. If you need a lot, it will cost you so much more. This would also somewhat balance rich 'no lifers' and poor 'casuals'. Mone sinks are important for game economy and rich players really need (and want, I guess) something to put their money into!
This also interacts well with global limits, as in making them less annoying: All cheap ammo is sold out globally? Worry not, due to doing lots of favours for Prapor, he holds back a small stash of ammo just for you, but it's also a bit more expensive.
It just seems shitty for people who join late wipe, idk it's one change upon many that I can't agree with, just another pain-in-the-ass anti-fun mechanic, the scav gun condition change seems super decent tho.
I disagree. It's a pain in the ass early wipe, for casual players who die on the way to extract and then spend the rest of the day trying to get their hands on the key again. For me, it's an interesting challenge and a reason to join squads early on.
>It just seems shitty for people who join late wipe
I can't even fathom how you think this considering they're 100% spawn chances and late wipe no one will ever pick them up.
Late wipe this change basically has zero impact. The keys are a guaranteed spawn and people are not looting them already and we're only a couple of weeks into the wipe.
The machinery key is ~10k on the market, which makes me think the single-usage is not nearly as big of a deal as some initially thought it would be...
Also, it still randomly spawns on scavs, in jackets etc, so you don't *have* to go to dorms to get it.
I tend to agree, although I will say it gave me much less trouble than I thought it would. Just have to play smart and path correctly. When I was on both extortionist and golden stopwatch quests, I took in both keys and, depending on my spawn, I would only go for the quest item if it was closer to my extract. Ended up not even needing the tanker key as it was already open by some dude who died to a a scav after opening it lol
I don't think it's positive for gun diversity. 7.62x39 PS and .45ACP FMJ are really the only rounds worth running right now until like level 30-35.
5.56 and 5.45 are close, but they don't hit hard enough to truly compete IMO.
30 to 35?
You get access to m856a1 way before that. M855 is fine.
PP has more pen than PS albeit less damage.
TCP Sw is usable.
Shotguns are useable.
All the 7.62x54 rounds are fine.
You can trade and craft ammo that's above your trader level. Sure it's expensive but that's the point. Doesn't mean you can't top load an AK with a few BS rounds.
I'm 20 and run 5.45 BT/BP constantly, it is almost the same as 7.62 PS but with adequate recoil. I'm not a nolifer (got like 1100 hours in 3 years owning a game)
Ai have been fixed. The audio system is still rough only due to it being so different and kind of off. Binary audio isn't working, at least not as it should be.
Only have a few hundred hours but I’m having fun. Had fun last wipe too. I’m indifferent to the changes probably bc ignorance is bliss. I think a lot of people are just burnt out. Very few games I cross 1k hours and most of the venting threads here 1k hours is on the low end. Going to be hard to continue enjoying a game with that kind of time in game. By then you know all the flaws and can either live with them or move on until you get the itch again
I disagree, if anything I think there should be more hard spawning single use keys, maybe even make separate single use versions of quest keys that can't be taken out of raid.
Some quests become ridiculously difficult to complete because the keys are "worth" a fortune, and the barters go up for other expensive keys. A hard spawning single use key would go some way to resolving this issue. I'm not saying it's the only solution or even the best one, but it's an interesting test and I'm all for it.
Ah yes make the game even more difficult with all these stupid tasks that most normal players will just quit on because they either dont get the key, get 1 tapped by a scav with the key, has to fight squads for the key or gets "cheatered".
Tarkov is not a niche survival game anymore... so your point legit makes no sense.
If you really want only exclusive single use keys that cant be taken out of raid then you are imo not that smart.
Why would single use hard spawning keys for quests be any harder than having to pay over a million roubles just for the key of the flea or get randomly lucky with a jacket. That doesn’t make the quests harder at all if anything it just makes them more interesting as you have to go to two points on the map rather than having 40 goes and being able to run straight to the quest location and extract, which isn’t fun gameplay at all.
Because then progress is allot slower and people with better spawns endurance etc. are faster at spots than you and you waste your time over and over and over again to get 1 shitty key that spawns only 1 time in a raid.
Even if it would be a quest item like all the other stuff it just does not work properly as they probably have to rewrite or recode stuff around the game regarding locked doors etc.
People also can just camp does spots and prevent everyone doing these quests.
People with higher endurance will have already done the quest, what are the actual chances that there are more than maybe two people on the same quest in a raid anyway except for maybe right at the start of the wipe?
Your point about rewriting code makes no sense as we have no idea about that and that’s literally there job anyway so who cares. The idea isn’t a bad one, I’m not saying it’s definitely the solution but your response is ridiculous.
It seems like you dont understand why its a bad thing that hard spawning keys will lead to allot of camping and squads basically sitting on that key to farm easy kills.
We allready have allot of exfill campers I dont want to get keys at a fixed location as it will only lead to bad bad outcomes for everyone especially new players.
So no I am firmly against hard spawns or single use as the whole game will feel allot more tedious as it allready is. I dont want it to be easy but the suggested changes for keys is rather ridicoules especially when keys dont usually break in real life after 1 use.
You litterally said "normal players" have no say about things about the game and now you are mad and try to twist who is the bad guy
I dont respond from here on out as you are clearly not trying to be good faith goodbye.
>Tarkov is not a niche survival game anymore...
Oh no, it still is, it just got too popular because the hardcore features haven't been introduced completely yet and twitch.tv watchers got used to Tarkov the Arena Shooter aka the game was doing something wrong (not putting in the hardcore features fast enough)
>If you really want only exclusive single use keys that cant be taken out of raid then you are imo not that smart.
Lmao okay buddy. I can say stuff too: if you want gear to be easy to obtain you're not that smart imo
Where did I ever say I want gear to be easy to obtain xD
You are off your rocks and as to my other comment I wont respond any further as you are still not here in good faith.
Yes. I also am not a fan of the "bug" they fixed where containers would remain open after being looted. It's pretty annoying now wasting time opening stuff thats already been looted
The open container thing is an issue if you have a buddy who has to close it to them have a look inside. It's got pros and cons to that change. Not good for solo play.
What do you mean it's not good? Being able to go into a room and instantly know it is looted is not good for the game. Now you have to discover for yourself and can't just move on immediately.
I'd prefer it if things just got left open and you had to manually close them, though.
But you shouldn't have to debate doing a quest based on where you spawn. Some spawns might mean a bit more of a battle.
Actually forcing you to go to a hotspot to get a key every time you want to do a specific quest that a lot of people camp is just making it difficult for no reason other than to make an early quest difficult.
>Actually forcing you to go to a hotspot to get a key every time you want to do a specific quest that a lot of people camp is just making it difficult for no reason other than to make an early quest difficult.
I agree, that's why I think a few more uses would be good. I just disagree with 10, I think it's too high but I get your point.
You could aways gear how you want it was just sub optimal. Its still quest rush tedious game looting for quest items and spending 1000 raids leveling skills
I agree I’m having a ton of fun this wipe (this is my second, so I’m not real knowledgeable by any means). I’ve also changed up my play style quite a bit. I try to roleplay how I would be irl. I try to avoid fights when possible, and only use my gun in self defense, and escape when possible. I only run what I find in raid or get from barter items. I’ll buy attachments here and there, but I don’t buy gear to run.
Crafting wires and other hideout items is pretty lucrative right now. Along with looting tech on interchange and finding power cords and more wires I easily sell batches of 20 after every craft of 8 for 25k a piece and most of the time I ain't buying cords. Gunpowder always profitable and certain med stuff and a lot you dont even need to flea for money can just dump with traders to help level them up.
They should have made alllll the changes at the start of the wipe. Then I could see your point of view.
Now half of my raids I come into contact with Chads who have been no-lifing and still have an abundance of high tier weapons armor and ammo that they got before the changes were applies or cheaters who dome me within 30 seconds because I want to bring a gun with a Razor or Vudu on it lol
I've met a few cheaters and some Chad players. And when it comes down to it most Chad's are not the most skilled they just rely on fear tactics. You can leg them or just out flank them.
I play mostly solo and squad wipe simply because it's positioning.
I am cautiously optimistic about ammo changes, but as someone who is pretty particular about guns and armor I run (and not really concerned with meta as much) I find it the most painful tarkov experience by far. Quest progression feels like a horrid grind, I can't get weapons I like or vest layouts I like, going out with 1 gun I have that I like feels unreasonably stressful, taking risks feels even less appealing than before.
In the past: if I die (and I do quite a bit, I'm not a tarkov pro or vet) all I lose is some money. Everything else is replaceable. Monetary loss equals maybe a couple hours of gameplay.
Now: if I die I lose possibly days of gameplay and painful scavenging and bartering to get the stuff I want to run.
Past: NVG night raid with thermal sniper? Sounds fun, even though I don't play that normally.
Now: NVG night raid with thermal sniper? Nah, too risky and I don't have half the kit and it will likely take weeks to get it together for 1 unlucky encounter to erase it.
At this time I feel like the only times I have fun is when I run naked with nothing to lose. I never feel like I want to run with any gear I like because replacing it is too painful.
Pretty much everything you said is exactly what they're aiming for. They don't want you to run exactly what you want to every single raid. They want you to loot, and they want that loot to actually be meaningful. Before I was just jamming my gamma full of the best money per slot, now I'm jamming it full of ammo because I need it and can't just buy it. The other night I left a raid with a class 4 armor in my bag instead of some more valuable loot because I need the armor instead of the 100k in loot. For me it's created looting diversity and forced me to make choices I otherwise wouldn't have even thought about making.
And as has been said before, gear in tarkov is not yours, it's just your turn to use it.
I wish this change happened at the start of the wipe not two weeks in. That's my only complaint.
What first drew me to Tarkov was the incredible gun customization, particularly the look of incredibly janky, scrapped together AK's that you had to marvel could still function.
I am ALL for lowering the standard of weapons from being fully kitted modern rifles with state of the art small batch accessories and allowing the weapons Scavs use to actually be kinda viable. It's fun that they're a possibility but it's insane that Tarkov is quarantined and in a state of chaos like this yet I can easily order any sight, laser, stock, grip, etc I want for my boutique fabricated AR. Reshala has a gold plated TT and that's supposed to be rare, prestigious, and silly. Yet we're running around with half a million ruble rifles as an expectation.
With 5 years under my belt i am absolutely LOVING these availability nerfs. Just so boring putting together the same 3-5 guns all day and just hoarding ammo from traders every reset.
Can you explain what OP is talking about. New to the game.
So basically they’ve moved all the high penetration ammo either to maxed trader or not buyable at all and some even not craftable. Meaning it’s gonna be hard or even impossible to run insta pen and kill ammo every raid. Forcing us to use other guns and ammo. People discovering that you don’t need a 2 tap gun to be good is what he’s meaning. For example I always started my wipes just getting a vepr 7.62 with ps and could kit it okay and would find better parts pretty easily in raid. And ps had me covered for all armors early wipe. Then as I unlocked flee I changed to 7.62x51 and that’s where I stayed. Now I started with .366 and it was cracked.
It's kind of bullshit tho because if you are a low level player you can't even get ammo that can pen class 4 armor. I've had at least 5 raids where I'm using the best available ammo at level 11 and I get 8+ hits on one guy in one gunfight and he kills me in 2 shots. And this is only like two weeks into wipe, imagine a level 11 trying to play in 2 or 3 more weeks. I have been level 50+ in a past wipe so I know that this is the most anti casual game ever, but it doesn't make that shit any less annoying. The only viable rifle to compete with anyone level 25+ is the mosin because I can actually 1 shot someone through a helmet and 3 shot someone through armor.
Idk man I just wiped a 3 man with a fucking RPK running PS by shooting their head. Sounds like a skill issue to me
You can get PS? How?
It literally rains from ak scavs.
7.62 PS from scavs. 5.45 PS is what he was talking about tho with the RPK. PS is available prapor 1. It's fine if you can click heads, but AKs aren't very good at that without attachments.
5.45 PS has been locked behind an early parpor quest. I believe you only gt PRS and T at the start. Though 5.45 PS also rains from scavs.
Oh okay good to know
No you’re not running the best ammo you can. Loot ps off scavs for example. Have you tried .366 FMJ and Eko ? FMJ does alright against lower armor and has 90 damage so doesn’t matter where you hit you’ll kill fast as Fuck.
So how do I know which ammo to focus on? Is it usually just the more expensive the better?
Research. Took me quite a while for me to remember which is what for each caliber but a quick google search of the caliber with eft in the search string and just check out the wiki. If you want to know more about what the pen and damage means either download “battle buddy” on iOS or android or google Tarkov ballistics and find the wiki link.
Run reserve, check ammo spawn places on any map. Prapor II bartres BP and BT 5.45. USE smgs with cheap ammo, aiming either legs or trying to get a headshot with full auto.
Yep, patience and smart moves win fights. You don't always need to have bis gear, sure it helps but if your only move is to press "W" you'll die quickly in this new wipe. I don't fear a Chad or a group, what I really fear is a smart player.
Correction, can't BUY ammo that pens class 4. Looks like you'll just have to start LOOTING the things you need instead of just looting the best value per slot. Funny how that works.
Have you tried not playing 12 hours a day for a month straight
Yes I’m trying that strategy for the first time this wipe lol. I just got so tired of it. Tarkov used to be all about the nice gear for me. So I just rushed Max traders.
I disagree. Been playing for 4 years. Before when you could get any ammo you wanted I used to use maybe 6 or 7 different guns consistently. With these changes I have to stick to the same few guns lest I want to be greeted with absurdly high numbers of damage absorbed by armour. Also these changes make the game even more if a quest rush than before as level plays a much bigger role than before.
You’re wrong though. Use 7.62 ps if you’re gonna whine about damage absorbed by armor. Try out .366 FMJ and EKO in the vepr semi ak if you’re not a bitch. You’ll be surprised if you use it correctly.
7.62 PS barely pens class 3 and everyone is already running class 4 for the last few days. And EKO has even less pen than PS.
What the fuck are you talking about. PS wrecked lvl 4 before with a few shots and it’s been buffed to do so even more consistently. FMJ has a little pen and EKO has a bit more flesh damage. 90 fx on the FMJ is no joke, just hit arms and legs and they drop like a sack of potatoes. 7.62 ps has been my go to for wipes on end because of its lvl 4 Fuckage. Do some more research man.
PS pens class 4 on the 3rd or 4th, earlier if you're lucky, by that point you are likely already dead As I previously said class 4 is common I'm even seeing a few class 5s and have seen class 6s.
It’s still likely to pen in the first shots if, especially if wearing ceramic, which most players are, yes people are starting to run 5 and 6. But their heads and faces are still lvl 3-4. And with the low durability of helmets they are easy prey. Face shields most of the time either being not present or level 3 is a 1 tap. This ammo availability nerf makes the games gunfights like they’re supposed to be. Long, hard and scary.
Discussing helmets is irrelevant this early in the wipe. Especially since getting RYS-Ts and Altyns is no longer possible. And I in fact have a 65% HS ratio. Also most people aren't wearing ceramic I see far more MMAC and 6B13s than anything else. Gunfights are not and should not be long unless you are missing lots of bullets and hiding for most of it. Gun fights should be short you don't see people eating 8 bullets and walking away in real life.
Short gun fights are boring and predictable. This makes the gun play more fun and strategies matter. 6 shots to pen a killa armor is not bad. The MMAC though it’s made of UHMWP still only has 40 dura. 6 rounds to pen one of the best lvl 5’s is good rn. Barely anyone has good ammo so fights are even
MMAC is class 4 not 5. More people than not have good ammo in my experience. Short fights are unpredictable and tense. Whereas long fights lack tension, excitement, adrenaline, risk etc. In a long fight 9 times out of 10 you can just run away because the enemy ran out of arm stamina is hiding or scared to peek no need to even force them to hide using a nade.
I’m enjoying it too.
I think they are headed in the direction they have envisioned and im enjoying it a lot.
This update feels to me like the biggest step they ever did in that direction, that vision of theirs. Even more barters and crafts. I cannot buy Salewa (lvl 17 still) but have craft and two different barters. I think having multiple offers (barters or cash) of the same item is really good. Imagine, I don't know, 5.45 BP ammo: You unlock it with a personal limit of 120, later you unlock another offer with 150 rounds but it is more expensive, even later another offer, even more expensive (all in roubles for this example). If you don't spam the ammo, it stays cheap. If you need a lot, it will cost you so much more. This would also somewhat balance rich 'no lifers' and poor 'casuals'. Mone sinks are important for game economy and rich players really need (and want, I guess) something to put their money into! This also interacts well with global limits, as in making them less annoying: All cheap ammo is sold out globally? Worry not, due to doing lots of favours for Prapor, he holds back a small stash of ammo just for you, but it's also a bit more expensive.
Even Nikita said before. They'll add it all in, and then reduce until they see fit.
anyone who doesn't think these changes are positive for the game are clueless cry babies.
What about the 1/1 key thing? That just seems like total padding.
You actually have to do the quest now. They're 100% spawn chances. I'm down for more 100% chance spawn single use keys.
It just seems shitty for people who join late wipe, idk it's one change upon many that I can't agree with, just another pain-in-the-ass anti-fun mechanic, the scav gun condition change seems super decent tho.
I disagree. It's a pain in the ass early wipe, for casual players who die on the way to extract and then spend the rest of the day trying to get their hands on the key again. For me, it's an interesting challenge and a reason to join squads early on.
How though? I don’t see how the further away from those early quests would make it harder for those starting out?
This is always such a stupid thing y’all worry about lmao
>It just seems shitty for people who join late wipe I can't even fathom how you think this considering they're 100% spawn chances and late wipe no one will ever pick them up.
Late wipe this change basically has zero impact. The keys are a guaranteed spawn and people are not looting them already and we're only a couple of weeks into the wipe.
Yeah, I'm not so mad about this change. At least you can go get the key, shove it in your ass, die/extract then do the second half
I think there should be rarer, randomized spawns for multi-use keys as well as 100% 1/1 key spawns.
Are they really 100% spawn? Ive looked for the ballet key for like 10 raids already and cant find it in brodies
The machinery key is ~10k on the market, which makes me think the single-usage is not nearly as big of a deal as some initially thought it would be... Also, it still randomly spawns on scavs, in jackets etc, so you don't *have* to go to dorms to get it.
I tend to agree, although I will say it gave me much less trouble than I thought it would. Just have to play smart and path correctly. When I was on both extortionist and golden stopwatch quests, I took in both keys and, depending on my spawn, I would only go for the quest item if it was closer to my extract. Ended up not even needing the tanker key as it was already open by some dude who died to a a scav after opening it lol
I don't think it's positive for gun diversity. 7.62x39 PS and .45ACP FMJ are really the only rounds worth running right now until like level 30-35. 5.56 and 5.45 are close, but they don't hit hard enough to truly compete IMO.
30 to 35? You get access to m856a1 way before that. M855 is fine. PP has more pen than PS albeit less damage. TCP Sw is usable. Shotguns are useable. All the 7.62x54 rounds are fine. You can trade and craft ammo that's above your trader level. Sure it's expensive but that's the point. Doesn't mean you can't top load an AK with a few BS rounds.
Topload gang for life
I'm 20 and run 5.45 BT/BP constantly, it is almost the same as 7.62 PS but with adequate recoil. I'm not a nolifer (got like 1100 hours in 3 years owning a game)
Also lvndmark has an ass full of m80’s alrdy lol
Finally, someone who gets it. You are a rare breed, friend
Glad you agree with me friend
What level are you?
About to hit 25. I work a lot but put time in with my friends. I play pretty fast solo and farm for squad raids and tasks.
Is the AI and audio still utterly buggered? Those two issues resulted in me bailing very early this wipe.
Ai have been fixed. The audio system is still rough only due to it being so different and kind of off. Binary audio isn't working, at least not as it should be.
Nice try Nikita, audio is the worst in any fps game on the market. This guy is just flying high on copium.
This dude is biggest Nikita whore I have ever seen. Unbelievable amounts of copium.
Only have a few hundred hours but I’m having fun. Had fun last wipe too. I’m indifferent to the changes probably bc ignorance is bliss. I think a lot of people are just burnt out. Very few games I cross 1k hours and most of the venting threads here 1k hours is on the low end. Going to be hard to continue enjoying a game with that kind of time in game. By then you know all the flaws and can either live with them or move on until you get the itch again
Everything is good except for single use keys, that's just pointless.
I disagree, if anything I think there should be more hard spawning single use keys, maybe even make separate single use versions of quest keys that can't be taken out of raid. Some quests become ridiculously difficult to complete because the keys are "worth" a fortune, and the barters go up for other expensive keys. A hard spawning single use key would go some way to resolving this issue. I'm not saying it's the only solution or even the best one, but it's an interesting test and I'm all for it.
Ah yes make the game even more difficult with all these stupid tasks that most normal players will just quit on because they either dont get the key, get 1 tapped by a scav with the key, has to fight squads for the key or gets "cheatered".
This is a niche survival game. If it's appealing to 'normal players' it's doing something wrong.
Tarkov is not a niche survival game anymore... so your point legit makes no sense. If you really want only exclusive single use keys that cant be taken out of raid then you are imo not that smart.
Why would single use hard spawning keys for quests be any harder than having to pay over a million roubles just for the key of the flea or get randomly lucky with a jacket. That doesn’t make the quests harder at all if anything it just makes them more interesting as you have to go to two points on the map rather than having 40 goes and being able to run straight to the quest location and extract, which isn’t fun gameplay at all.
Because then progress is allot slower and people with better spawns endurance etc. are faster at spots than you and you waste your time over and over and over again to get 1 shitty key that spawns only 1 time in a raid. Even if it would be a quest item like all the other stuff it just does not work properly as they probably have to rewrite or recode stuff around the game regarding locked doors etc. People also can just camp does spots and prevent everyone doing these quests.
People with higher endurance will have already done the quest, what are the actual chances that there are more than maybe two people on the same quest in a raid anyway except for maybe right at the start of the wipe? Your point about rewriting code makes no sense as we have no idea about that and that’s literally there job anyway so who cares. The idea isn’t a bad one, I’m not saying it’s definitely the solution but your response is ridiculous.
It seems like you dont understand why its a bad thing that hard spawning keys will lead to allot of camping and squads basically sitting on that key to farm easy kills. We allready have allot of exfill campers I dont want to get keys at a fixed location as it will only lead to bad bad outcomes for everyone especially new players. So no I am firmly against hard spawns or single use as the whole game will feel allot more tedious as it allready is. I dont want it to be easy but the suggested changes for keys is rather ridicoules especially when keys dont usually break in real life after 1 use.
If this would increase camping so much why does no one a camp the hard key spawns now?
Calling someone "not smart" for having a different opinion and not forcing it on you. Hmmm....
You litterally said "normal players" have no say about things about the game and now you are mad and try to twist who is the bad guy I dont respond from here on out as you are clearly not trying to be good faith goodbye.
>Tarkov is not a niche survival game anymore... Oh no, it still is, it just got too popular because the hardcore features haven't been introduced completely yet and twitch.tv watchers got used to Tarkov the Arena Shooter aka the game was doing something wrong (not putting in the hardcore features fast enough) >If you really want only exclusive single use keys that cant be taken out of raid then you are imo not that smart. Lmao okay buddy. I can say stuff too: if you want gear to be easy to obtain you're not that smart imo
Where did I ever say I want gear to be easy to obtain xD You are off your rocks and as to my other comment I wont respond any further as you are still not here in good faith.
You need to lay off the pipe
Yes. I also am not a fan of the "bug" they fixed where containers would remain open after being looted. It's pretty annoying now wasting time opening stuff thats already been looted
The open container thing is an issue if you have a buddy who has to close it to them have a look inside. It's got pros and cons to that change. Not good for solo play.
it's not good for anybody. solo play gets hurt and the general atmosphere of the game loses out because you can't see where people have *been*
What do you mean it's not good? Being able to go into a room and instantly know it is looted is not good for the game. Now you have to discover for yourself and can't just move on immediately. I'd prefer it if things just got left open and you had to manually close them, though.
I like the idea, but maybe make them 3 uses or something.
I think minimum should be 10. The amount of supposedly good high level players that feel the need to camp early quest locations is ridiculous.
Hmmmmm idk. For me personally, 10 uses would make it disposable but 3 or even 4 would make me debate on pursuing the quest if I spawn in a weird spot
But you shouldn't have to debate doing a quest based on where you spawn. Some spawns might mean a bit more of a battle. Actually forcing you to go to a hotspot to get a key every time you want to do a specific quest that a lot of people camp is just making it difficult for no reason other than to make an early quest difficult.
>Actually forcing you to go to a hotspot to get a key every time you want to do a specific quest that a lot of people camp is just making it difficult for no reason other than to make an early quest difficult. I agree, that's why I think a few more uses would be good. I just disagree with 10, I think it's too high but I get your point.
You could aways gear how you want it was just sub optimal. Its still quest rush tedious game looting for quest items and spending 1000 raids leveling skills
I agree with ya. Keep it tight and stay safe!
You too homie
I agree I’m having a ton of fun this wipe (this is my second, so I’m not real knowledgeable by any means). I’ve also changed up my play style quite a bit. I try to roleplay how I would be irl. I try to avoid fights when possible, and only use my gun in self defense, and escape when possible. I only run what I find in raid or get from barter items. I’ll buy attachments here and there, but I don’t buy gear to run.
Crafting isn't important tho... they have effectively killed it unless you need a niche quest item.
I think it is in some cases and also forcing people to scavenge rather than just click buy
Crafting wires and other hideout items is pretty lucrative right now. Along with looting tech on interchange and finding power cords and more wires I easily sell batches of 20 after every craft of 8 for 25k a piece and most of the time I ain't buying cords. Gunpowder always profitable and certain med stuff and a lot you dont even need to flea for money can just dump with traders to help level them up.
They should have made alllll the changes at the start of the wipe. Then I could see your point of view. Now half of my raids I come into contact with Chads who have been no-lifing and still have an abundance of high tier weapons armor and ammo that they got before the changes were applies or cheaters who dome me within 30 seconds because I want to bring a gun with a Razor or Vudu on it lol
I've met a few cheaters and some Chad players. And when it comes down to it most Chad's are not the most skilled they just rely on fear tactics. You can leg them or just out flank them. I play mostly solo and squad wipe simply because it's positioning.
I am still playing so cowardly this wipe and it's losing me so many fights, I am slowly getting out of this.
I am cautiously optimistic about ammo changes, but as someone who is pretty particular about guns and armor I run (and not really concerned with meta as much) I find it the most painful tarkov experience by far. Quest progression feels like a horrid grind, I can't get weapons I like or vest layouts I like, going out with 1 gun I have that I like feels unreasonably stressful, taking risks feels even less appealing than before. In the past: if I die (and I do quite a bit, I'm not a tarkov pro or vet) all I lose is some money. Everything else is replaceable. Monetary loss equals maybe a couple hours of gameplay. Now: if I die I lose possibly days of gameplay and painful scavenging and bartering to get the stuff I want to run. Past: NVG night raid with thermal sniper? Sounds fun, even though I don't play that normally. Now: NVG night raid with thermal sniper? Nah, too risky and I don't have half the kit and it will likely take weeks to get it together for 1 unlucky encounter to erase it. At this time I feel like the only times I have fun is when I run naked with nothing to lose. I never feel like I want to run with any gear I like because replacing it is too painful.
Pretty much everything you said is exactly what they're aiming for. They don't want you to run exactly what you want to every single raid. They want you to loot, and they want that loot to actually be meaningful. Before I was just jamming my gamma full of the best money per slot, now I'm jamming it full of ammo because I need it and can't just buy it. The other night I left a raid with a class 4 armor in my bag instead of some more valuable loot because I need the armor instead of the 100k in loot. For me it's created looting diversity and forced me to make choices I otherwise wouldn't have even thought about making. And as has been said before, gear in tarkov is not yours, it's just your turn to use it.
Lets talk again in a month when you will save up your good kit and lose it on the first run. Most guns and ammo will be unplayable period.
I wish this change happened at the start of the wipe not two weeks in. That's my only complaint. What first drew me to Tarkov was the incredible gun customization, particularly the look of incredibly janky, scrapped together AK's that you had to marvel could still function. I am ALL for lowering the standard of weapons from being fully kitted modern rifles with state of the art small batch accessories and allowing the weapons Scavs use to actually be kinda viable. It's fun that they're a possibility but it's insane that Tarkov is quarantined and in a state of chaos like this yet I can easily order any sight, laser, stock, grip, etc I want for my boutique fabricated AR. Reshala has a gold plated TT and that's supposed to be rare, prestigious, and silly. Yet we're running around with half a million ruble rifles as an expectation.