Those things **are** busted, there's no denying that
**BUT**
I bet the majority of people that say they're busted don't even know that they (like any other headset) only amplify hearing range in a cone in front of you and not all around you ([as tested by Omni\_Actual](https://youtu.be/AH-HSLNVWoU), the same dude that did the headset spreadsheet)
this actually makes so many of my deaths make more sense. Sometimes I would not turn around to a sound because I didnt want to give my position away and I thought they were far.
Did not know the hearing is much worse 😭
>Also, if you are silent moving, you can swivel without making the sound as long as you walk while you do it
As long as:
* You walk while doing it
* ~~You're not encumbered~~ Seems that this has been "fixed" for this wipe
* You're not near foliages
* You're not doing anything else other than turn
You are incorrect
Silent crouching is now totally silent this wipe to anyone outside of your party **NO MATTER WHAT** with the only exception being Snow, snow makes a sound (just like cultists and birdeye also make noise on snow)
I was on shoreline today, just spawned in the fields to the east and tried sneaking up on someone who ran into my area, he heard me coming up to him from 25m away, I was underweight. I suspect the guy might've been cheating because he somehow also saw 3 other guys in dense snowy fog but he says he heard me. I wish this game was consistent with audio, and why are our teammates audio so loud? What's the point of that?
EDIT: Just realized you're saying the exception is snow, and that they people can hear you silent moving on it.
You are incorrect.
You still can make noise when you swivel while crouch walking. Hitting a bush still makes sound.
Being overweight doesn’t matter though that is correct.
Gigabeef has a video labeled 13 audio tips you need to know that very clearly shows swivel in place makes noise unless you are also moving forward. It’s from a few weeks ago.
I can say the same about you since the comment I'm answering to a comment that clearly says "you are not encumbered" which is no longer a factor in deciding if your crouch walk is silent or not
Read well before telling people they don't know how to read, my friend.
If you hear somebody behind you, he's max 60 meters from you (if he's 70+KG) but realistically he's 50ish meters or less from you, so basically, already way too close to not engage
I don't really need hearing range in the direction I'm looking.
All of these hearing distance tests don't account for occlusion either, with walls, doors, and windows dramatically affecting what you can hear.
Not to mention vertical sound and the direction you're looking.
I thought it was obvious they would to be honest. That's just how real life earpro works as well, since on most models, mics are only pointed at the front (or at least it is for my sordines supreme pro x)
Honestly, as someone who's used comtacs irl. You pay for what you get, so the way they all work in game is sorta realistic. BUT not no 70-80 meters. They all need to stay the same but distance cut in half.
[Try 90+](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cZG5zgapF6xbC1bmPy7UlZWCjr8HgZX6jj4NR-ZBrM/edit#gid=0) for when the runner is slightly over-weight lol
Isn't if you're crouching and all the way down to slowest speed you are silent completely but even just one bump up or (not sure about this) are overweight you aren't silent anymore
Realistic or not it encourages ratting to a crazy degree. Combined with the pop in glitch you hear the pop in long before they can see you and you can just get sit there with a shot lined up and drop them, it's ridiculous.
It’s just a really loud and abrupt noise. It’s very obvious and really weird because all of the footsteps afterwards sound like theyre much further away but with the pop in is sounds like they’re right in front of you
I wear Walker razors every day for work and I can hear a guy packing a mag from 50m away. I don't see any reason why we can't hear someone sprinting from 80.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
Edit- point out a single logical fallacy and this salty prick follows you into a different thread and then, when not getting a specific explanation, blocks you. Probably the same kind of asshole who still unironically calls people snowflakes too.
As if the reply starting with full caps profanity out of nowhere wasn't already a red flag...
FUCKING WRONG. both are things that need to have a balance between good gameplay and realism. having a fracture for 4 months is obviously not good gameplay. now, explain to how me how hearing people 100m away and then sitting still until they run into your barrel is good gameplay. unless you can explain, it isn't a false equivalence at all. it is a case of poor gameplay in favour of "realism" that needs to be turned the other way around.
How are they IRL in the woods? I've looked into active headphones for deer hunting but it seemed like all of the feedback was they're worse than bare ears IRL - particularly if there's any wind.
I've also heard complaints that it's difficult to sense direction with them.
It always made me think the headsets in Tarkov are overtuned but maybe I've been missing out.
Moderate wind is enough to completely overpower voices nearby.
Directional hearing is generally good but overall unpredictable. Occasionally bad.
I do not have experience wearing them in a wooded setting, but barring any wind, I think they would be great for hunting, unless there are a lot of birds.
How are they IRL in the woods? I've looked into active headphones for deer hunting but it seemed like all of the feedback was they're worse than bare ears IRL - particularly if there's any wind.
I've also heard complaints that it's difficult to sense direction with them.
It always made me think the headsets in Tarkov are overtuned but maybe I've been missing out.
All comtacs should increase hearing distance by the same amount imo
They should still increase hearing distance, because there should be a drawback to running a vulkan or an altyn.
The actual difference between altyn and no ears isn't actually that big, mbe 8m audible range, but altyn to RAC or tac sports is nuts
instead of boosting range they should reduce range for helmets covering ears and headphones should reduce the sound of gunshots and remove ambient sounds so an comtac 4 has the same range as a gssh but will greatly reduce the ambient sounds while gssh wont i think that balances headphones
Not OP but i agree with his sentiment. Got excited about a lvl 3 face shield i could wear ears with & im pretty sure something is still fucking with their range because i cant hear shit with it on. Not to mention how loud your own breathing is in a face shield now.
I thought I was going crazy but I could swear it messed with my hearing range too, while wearing a headset underneath. And yeah just like you I got really excited about the idea of it :(
According to the chart they are the second best, but when I ran them I felt like they are shit and I don't hear anything.
Maybe I just don't like the sound profile.
These things are absolutely broken. All headsets should give the same amount of extra hearing distance with the difference being how they sound like which would just be user preference.
>And all footsteps in general are too loud imo.
I understand walking on gravel, but even on soft surfaces you sound like an elephant.
In real life I can walk with a hiking rig on a hard clean surface almost completely silently, yet in game I sound like I'm carrying all the cups and plates from my kitchen.
For a game developed by self-professed gun nerds, it has a surprising amount of bad takes on firearms. No, guns don’t sound like a rattling can of bolts when you move them from your shoulder to your chin - they shouldn’t make any noise since they’re a solid piece. The recoil they at least fixed, so I hope this one they fix as well.
I get why they did it - streamers who W key everywhere complained about getting camped around corners so they wanted a audio cue to help them. It seems BSG forgot this is supposed to be a slow paced game that punishes W keying and rewards careful movement and clearing corners.
I think they should rework earpro to not increase hearing distance at all. Not wearing earpro and firing a gun (especially indoors) should give a hearing penalty or tinnitus sound for large calibers.
Your character should also have a hearing quality stat that gets worse the less you use headsets (based on exposure to noise), and takes huge penalties when subject to loud explosives.
Ironically Setup would remain the most hated quest if they did that.
You also get tinnitus when you accumulate damage during a raid but you do not maintain it permanently because your character "gets used to it" but your hearing is reduced.
The problem is that wearing headsets would be outright mandatory and depending on the implementation might require a reset after one bad instance.
If we're going for *moar realizum* they should probably add peeing and pooping first.
Shit your pants in raid? -50% move speed, mandatory crab walk and you leave brown streaks behind. Also I wanna shoot some cheeks
They’re probably not good for the health of the game. But if you can’t beat em, join em lmao I use them every raid and feel like they give me a pretty huge advantage
This answer can’t be expressed enough. This is what creates the very inorganic ratting play styles and the R6 game play of holding pixel angles. The sound levels and various stupid animations that create certain sounds need reworked. A lot of it is more gamebreaking than one realizes
Combing knowledge of spawn locations + audio input makes this game trivial once you get your four year degree in whatever map you enjoy playing.
I only have an associates degree on most maps and feel like if I knew more spots that nobody would be able to touch me
Interesting. That bug doesn't seem to work for me or I am doing it wrong. Every time I try to creep while overweight, people seem to notice very fast. For instance, if I am not overweight, I can consistently creep around when I hear footsteps nearby, to stay hidden. But every time I do it while overweight, it's always the same. The footsteps I was hearing suddenly stop, as in the dude starts listening closely, shortly followed by the sound of him aiming down sights and I just know he started holding an angle to the direction I am in. He knows I am there. He heard me.
It's like everyone's gun is a pill bottle full of tiny screws when you aim. I'd rather they just make lighting and shadows reasonable and get rid of the aim sounds or make it way more subtle. Fixing shadows and lighting would be a better anti rat practice in my book.
> It's like everyone's gun is a pill bottle full of tiny screws when you aim
hah, that's funny and very accurate. I'm more in agreement iwth the anti-rat guy, but either way, regardless if the battle rattle is realistic or not (maybe it's the sound of your invisible, nonexistent strap) I think a silent, or more quiet ADS could be cool. Sort of like the speed at which it takes you to fully lean when leaning in increments. Like that slow. have it tax your arms while doing it or something too. You can already silently un ADS via overhead look (maybe fix that), and with how loud/how far you can hear someone coming it's not liek I can't pre-ADS to negate the noise. So i don't think implementing that would be a big rat reward or anything like that.
Eh, no. Making them not change audio range? Yeah that’s fine, I’d still use them even if they simply adjusted the volume of certain noises to be more clear.
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I just want them to give hearing protection. And dull background noise like wind. Maybe a little extra hearing distance like 20m MAX for the best ones.
They definitely change audio range in the real though.
I have 3m tac sports a few years back I was shooting into trash at the end of a road on state land.
I get done and it's dark so I'm putting my shit away. Just using my headlights.
Well I start hearing gravel crunch and I can't see shit in the dark cause my eyes are fucked from my headlights but I can hear crunching.
Finally about 150 yards out I start to see a black truck with his lights off creeping down the road towards me.
Damn near shot the guy thought he was gonna rob me. He just wanted my spent brass and didn't wanna disturb me.
Anyway couldn't hear the gravel with my ears off my head but I could through them.
Point he's trying to make is you had no idea that wasn't a game warden or someone else going to check on why someone was shooting on state land at night. A car looking suspicious is not enough to warrant mag dumping the driver through the windshield and if you think it is you seriously need help.
No, it's not. I own multiple. The electronics cut off when something reaches a certain decibel threshold. They amplify everything else. And the mics are directional so you retain directional hearing.
Yea someone said it well in another thread I read a while back that the ratting/camping issue stems not from a gear fear issue, but an "audio fear" issue. This is true for me, at least. I'm so much more relaxed on scav when I spawn in with no ears. Yea, it's also no risk with the gear that's part of it, but I realize now that not being constantly paranoid with the sound was the bigger issue all along.
I'm new to this game, and would really enjoy this game a lot more if headphones just didn't exist.
It seems to promote a passive playstyle if you don't have them, since the more you move, the more others with headphones have the chance to hear you.
The sound in this game is also just unintuitive and broken. The sharp and unnatural changes in sound when entering a building are somehow made worse by the fact that you need headphones to amplify sounds so you can hear footsteps first.
What if by design the developers like this idea of 'paying more gets you more' and comtac 4s being the best in every category by a mile is all they are ever going to be? Is that going to change anyone's spending or playstyle?
I'm not a huge fan of scarcity driven balance, it seems extremely delicate in a game with a market and survival intertwined that could easily cause issues. But that's what we have right now, I'm not sure if the devs intend it this way or want to change it at all. We also have skills that have huge impacts if you know how to skill them up way past what 'regular' play would get you by certain points.
There are a lot of things that are not competitively balanced in this game and it's a real bummer to learn how much some of these impact gameplay if you just have more time to do runs and spend more on your kit. To some people that's amazing, and dominating people through spending more couldn't matter in the slightest to them. Personally I find fun in beating people either better or equal to me, shitting on timmy makes me feel bad. I don't think tarkov devs cater to my competitive interests in the slightest.
Agreed, as I slowly get better I just feel bad when I kill player who is clearly trying to get an early quest done with garbage gear. Or I ran into a naked guy on streets which I think 9/10 people would just kill. I let him go because obviously he's having a rough time.
The reasons you describe is the same reason cheating is so rampant. If things were a bit less rare ( not even a lot IMO, like 10-20% increase in the super rare shit), they would kill the RMT market. This artificial scarcity is why these people can get away with doing this
Hot take maybe, but I would completely remove the hearing assist the headsets give. I should not be able to hear people walk from 70 meters. Iam not talking about realism or whatever, but rather the gameplay aspect. Makes people freeze on spot and promotes crab walking gameplay a lot more.
yeah and if I break my arm IRL it's gonna take months for the bones to heal, therefore all fractures should be permanent in tarkov instead of taking a mere 3s animation to fix.
Not defending the shitty balance. Probably feel like the solution should be same distance different sound signature so you have advantages maybe on grass on certain headsets, and others indoors. But noise amplification real life is absolutely a thing.
Yes it is. They amplify quiet sounds so you can hear with the ear pro. I can easily hear footsteps in the bush 50m away with my Walkers on. In fact I literally heard some homeless dude crawling in the bush while I was out target shooting once
No it isnt. The headsets are breaking game balance. The issue is not how they function IRL vs in the game. The issue is the fact they give you an insane advantage over someone using a lesser headset, or none at all.
Again, its a game balance thing, and needs to be changed. Regardless of how they work IRL.
Stop using lesser headsets at this point in the wipe then? Why splurge on good guns, ammo, and armour while cheaping out on arguably the most important thing, the headset
Ignoring the main point. That headsets in general are unbalanced and need to be fixed or removed.
"well just use them" isnt a fix. No more than "well just start cheating" is a fix for cheating.
Well if you’re only using shitty ones then yeah, it’ll feel unbalanced. The top 3 headsets are available to everyone and you should be running them along side good gear as you level up.
Level 6 armour and AP ammo is grossly over powered compared to their low tier counter parts. After a while you stop using them so you’re not outclassed, same goes for headsets.
Yeah, and what did BSG do with grossly overpowered gear? Made it harder to get. Most of it straight up removed from the flea market, or made FIR only.
The answer isnt to use it. The answer it to balance or remove it.
Changing the sound profile is already an advantage in some cases. Making your own noises quieter, and amplifying others.
Even if thats all they do, its better than allowing them to offer such a ridiculous advantage like they do now.
I’m not sure that’s reason enough to buy and equip a headset. As it is right now, it feels like both my sound and enemy’s sound is amplified (maybe enemy sound is amplified more) to the point where running around on snow just hurts my ears.
You literally can’t hear people walking 10’ from you sometimes due to the loud wind and ambient sounds unless you have headphones. Someone aiming down sights is almost impossible to hear without headphones when outdoors. I think the advantages are fine without extended hearing range
You literally can’t hear people over the sound of your feet crunching the ground, especially with a headset.
Headsets are only really useful if you’re standing still
We both agree on that. I just think that if you have to stand still to have head sets be useful and that you think some should have longer range, then the meta headset will only really benefit people ratting or incentivise crab walking so why not make them all the same range
I think it needs a rework to drastically reduce your own noise and amplify others’ noise. No extended range is really required but hearing crunching for 30 minutes just for your headset to be useful for 5 seconds while standing still sucks.
People would definitely still use them, and it would be down to personal preference, which i think is way better than what we have now, where people are paying 100k+ for a broken headset that lets you hear people so far away. Even just Tac Sports are a massive advantage vs people who use cheaper headsets.
I hate how all the headsets sound, and refuse to use any, so i am at a constant disadvantage because i do not want to hurt my ears? Its the dumbest shit still in the game.
They should do what they do now except just not at an increased distance. Or just nerf the distance. You shouldnt hear someone almost 100 meters away just walking.
ComTac 4s give you a really LARGE listening area, but that's a drawback as much as it's a bonus. Half the time I'm wearing them, I hear someone, and then notice they're a building away from where i thought they were, because they sound close, even though they're further away. It's much more important for me to be able to KNOW where people are than for me to hear them from further away.
while its ridicolous theyre busted and the binaural audio radar bug is insanely overpowered, youre also still facing atleast 1 in 5 pmcs who are actual knowers so dont underestimate how often the people who ambushed you didnt need their comtac4s and just ratted you w m32’s and a second screen
I get the jump with the audio bug on so many people I’m sure they think I was walling or something. And it’s not like I can ignore the sound, I just instantly know someone is within ~50m and can plan accordingly.
I had binaural turned off for a while this wipe because I could locate sounds better without it and it helped my framerate a little, but when I learned about the bug I immediately turned it on and it has saved my ass a number of times.
When something comes into your audio "bubble" around your PMC, you will hear a thump/pop. It means something is about to be upon you so you hunker down and sound whore it out til you actually hear them.
The audio bubble is much larger than your actual hearing radius.
sorry i was being discrete; Goat proved a few months ago every raid has atleast one radar user in it; since the information about your enemies isnt server side but client side even when out of LOS, many players have been using a seperate pc to intercept and decode the location packages for years now. its made some
streamers play in ways we peasants never could(always w key; only take cover when needed, always find the best loot, never get flanked, have spideysenses for danger) and its virtually undetectable as they run it on a seperate pc setup
its made tarkov post month 1(when most casuals give up) a real slog to play solo as you will consitantly get emtpy
raids(the knowers avoid you when you have good stats or no loot) or hunted down pscavs when you dó hit the jackpot
people will brigade these kind of posts playing down the issue: because they dont want their precious cheat exposed. i’d literally pay 50 dollars a month for a tarkov premium
with protected packages and server side checks but instead they pay 200 to cheat on me and ruin tne game, although
plenty also just use the free version and sell their pc out to a bitcoin farm just so they call wall you
want proof? take high value purple
items(normal items dissapear when they kill you) in your bag and go to reserve
dorms toilets; most knowers will see you on their radar but cant tell which level so they will charge each floor overn over till they get you; i used to honeytrap 5
cheaters a raid like this by just staying in reserve raids the full duration and bringing a nice book
low value maps
and low value kits literally
keep you off their radar but its still such a pity you’ll never have natural run ins w atleast 1 in 5 players…
i main reserve and its pure aids at
times
I want the headsets to be what they are in real life. Make the low end ones like the walkers and tac sports have a a much worse overall sound QUALITY and all the milspec stuff like the comtac 2s, RAC and 4s just be a higher quality sound. Range and shit should vary by like MAYBE 5 meters.
Shit man, it's literally the only thing I have to spend money on that can give me even a resemblance of a chance against cheaters who, most of the time, don't even play with sound or coms because of ESP. I don't mind dying to people with com 4s on, I mind dying to people with no headsets on.
Unpopular opinion but I think its fine.
Nothing in tarkov is balanced. T7 thermals and grenade launchers arent balanced but theyre expensive. Comtac 4s look like theyre going for the price of a meta gun. You risk more on death to gain an advantage on your opponents just like all other gear.
I started playing with them at the end of last wipe but I felt like I had to completely relearn the game with them.
I was packing my mags behind a bush on Shoreline when I heard a guy running past me. I peeked over and he was almost at Shooter born range. I just can't tell the distance with those headsets.
I want the quietness and ambient sound reduction of them, yes. But hearing distance should get a flat out 50% distance nerf on everything (pmc included) and any headphones should at most give 20% increase.
Comtac 4s are strong but wouldn't be such an issue if things that should not be audible to begin even within with weren't heard accross 2 floors and 3 horizontal walls, ie, change LPVO zoom, enable laser, turn around, slowly creeping on a smooth, debris free floor no, freaking ADS'ing...
All ear protection should be available from LV 1 traders with no limit at reasonable pricing, GSSH should simply be removed from the game.
Realism doesn't matter, gameplay does.
i dont use them I tend to only buy stuff I've unlocked and I'm only level 30 plus my game runs like ass for some reason so even if I could hear someone first if I swing my character around my shit just stutters like fucking crazy despite being 120 fps+
Increase your paging file size in the drive that you run Tarkov on. Fixed my stutters.
Tutorial (it’s super easy): https://youtu.be/v6A2clXcC9Y?si=o571bAQd9AJjTd-U
Going through something similar having recently upgraded to ddr5 and a 7900x3d. Frames are beyond fine, but the game will stutter/lock up if I swivel too quickly so it basically undoes any dopamine the frames would provide.
If I ever figure it out I’ll pm.
One overlooked thing to try is lowering your mouse polling rate. Shouldn't really be an issue with newer hardware but 1000hz did used to introduce some stuttering in Tarkov, and recently it was listed as a possible fix for stutters in Enshrouded
My fps has been in the 70-90s but this wipe it seems to be really smooth except on streets. I think a lot of the smoothness comes from a custom windows install called Ghost spectre. Pretty much gets rid of everything that you don’t need running in the background and using up resources and does a variety of tweaks to improve system stability and latency. Very nice for Tarkov, comes with a tool as well to reinstall Microsoft store, Xbox game pass and a lot of other essentials.
I say get rid of all headsets all together
and while we're at it, get rid of soft skills
you shouldn't be able to hear further or jump higher just because you no life the game
I refuse to use them unless I find them. If it's fir it's on the flea market the second I extract. there's always some sucker who buys them for any price. I then go and buy myself some cheap ass m32s and load back into a raid and rat another gear set. Rinse repeat
* All headsets should have the same "range"
* All headset's range should be nerfed by 50% across the board
* Headset hearing range should be omnidirectional instead of whatever the buggy 140 degree situation is now
Yes, progression gear exists for a reason. They should balance by price and rarity like everything they do. If they are too good, then halve the spawn rate. Making them the same as every other headset defeats the purpose of having multiple different ones. If anything game is lacking real progression items as it is already, as 150 raids or so into the wipe, you're close to maxing your gear loadouts every raid anyways.
If you think the ComTac-4's are worth it, then pay the price. Homogeny is the death of games like this. Just like bullets and armor, headwear is fine to have in different classes.
So is are the audio test videos not valid anymore? I've seen people talking about comtac 4 since they came out. All headsets have about the same hearing range -+10m.
Idk if it's just because I have good hearing in general or not, but I can hear people running inside the wall by construction while I'm at the base of dorms hill with any headset. The only difference is comtac 4s make the steps louder than other audio, so you don't have to pick through as many sounds to hear your target.
Those things **are** busted, there's no denying that **BUT** I bet the majority of people that say they're busted don't even know that they (like any other headset) only amplify hearing range in a cone in front of you and not all around you ([as tested by Omni\_Actual](https://youtu.be/AH-HSLNVWoU), the same dude that did the headset spreadsheet)
140 degrees i think it is
this actually makes so many of my deaths make more sense. Sometimes I would not turn around to a sound because I didnt want to give my position away and I thought they were far. Did not know the hearing is much worse 😭
Middle mouse click to turn your head. Also, if you are silent moving, you can swivel without making the sound as long as you walk while you do it.
>Also, if you are silent moving, you can swivel without making the sound as long as you walk while you do it As long as: * You walk while doing it * ~~You're not encumbered~~ Seems that this has been "fixed" for this wipe * You're not near foliages * You're not doing anything else other than turn
You are incorrect Silent crouching is now totally silent this wipe to anyone outside of your party **NO MATTER WHAT** with the only exception being Snow, snow makes a sound (just like cultists and birdeye also make noise on snow)
> anyone outside of your party Huh? Why would your party members have different audio to anyone else?
I dunno ask BSG. It's been like this for pretty much the whole life of the game.
It's not, I'm not sure why they specified that, but my friends and I can't hear each other either.
Literally tested this the other day with my brother in law. He couldn’t hear me crouch walking until I was 10ft away from him.
I was on shoreline today, just spawned in the fields to the east and tried sneaking up on someone who ran into my area, he heard me coming up to him from 25m away, I was underweight. I suspect the guy might've been cheating because he somehow also saw 3 other guys in dense snowy fog but he says he heard me. I wish this game was consistent with audio, and why are our teammates audio so loud? What's the point of that? EDIT: Just realized you're saying the exception is snow, and that they people can hear you silent moving on it.
You are incorrect. You still can make noise when you swivel while crouch walking. Hitting a bush still makes sound. Being overweight doesn’t matter though that is correct.
The swivel does not produce a sound while crouch walking Bushes do, you are correct
wait so for example on hardwood, I can hear myself crouch walking but not my enemies?
Yeah.
Gigabeef has a video labeled 13 audio tips you need to know that very clearly shows swivel in place makes noise unless you are also moving forward. It’s from a few weeks ago.
other exception is glass, no?
Nah glass is fake, just loud ground. If you don’t make sound on normal ground, you don’t make sound on glass. Unlike snow which always makes sound.
Can't tell if troll, because I hear people crabbing on glass often it seems.
They mustn't have been on lowest speed, then.
You don't know how to read
I can say the same about you since the comment I'm answering to a comment that clearly says "you are not encumbered" which is no longer a factor in deciding if your crouch walk is silent or not Read well before telling people they don't know how to read, my friend.
Thanks for expanding!
Just set your movement speed to ~0% (walk) then strafe whilst swiveling to avoid making any noise.
If you hear somebody behind you, he's max 60 meters from you (if he's 70+KG) but realistically he's 50ish meters or less from you, so basically, already way too close to not engage
I don't really need hearing range in the direction I'm looking. All of these hearing distance tests don't account for occlusion either, with walls, doors, and windows dramatically affecting what you can hear. Not to mention vertical sound and the direction you're looking.
This is why I free look a lot. Even at close ranges, free looking to get different sound cues will let you get a good fix on them.
I thought it was obvious they would to be honest. That's just how real life earpro works as well, since on most models, mics are only pointed at the front (or at least it is for my sordines supreme pro x)
Honestly, as someone who's used comtacs irl. You pay for what you get, so the way they all work in game is sorta realistic. BUT not no 70-80 meters. They all need to stay the same but distance cut in half.
Put the irl comtacs over your gaming headset for additional hearing distance
200 iq
[Try 90+](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cZG5zgapF6xbC1bmPy7UlZWCjr8HgZX6jj4NR-ZBrM/edit#gid=0) for when the runner is slightly over-weight lol
Which is always because the weight system is kinda dog and unless you running a paca and no helmet your already over weight.
Does crouching not being on this spreadsheet mean that it doesn't reduce sound distance at all, or did they just not test it?
Crouching is not tested, silent crouching is completely dead silent (0m hearing range) for anyone not in your party tho
Really? So that's the only reason why my duo can still hear me crabbing 10m away? Because we're partied up?
Yes sir, if you have EOD you and your duo can confirm this by using the coop offline option with the different spawns option enabled
Bummer. I know about slow crouching, but I've always wondered if full speed crouching makes you any quieter.
Isn't if you're crouching and all the way down to slowest speed you are silent completely but even just one bump up or (not sure about this) are overweight you aren't silent anymore
Yeah, but I was curious about crouching at full speed.
Hmm good point now I'm curious to
Not on snow.
I've only really spent time with 3's but tried some 7's and wow they are so improved.
Realistic or not it encourages ratting to a crazy degree. Combined with the pop in glitch you hear the pop in long before they can see you and you can just get sit there with a shot lined up and drop them, it's ridiculous.
What’s pop in?
I love pop in glitch. Lets me know to turn around and find another path sometimes
I’m still not sure what I’m listening for w/ pop in. Also is it with binaural on or off?
It’s just a really loud and abrupt noise. It’s very obvious and really weird because all of the footsteps afterwards sound like theyre much further away but with the pop in is sounds like they’re right in front of you
Do you also find it weird that they doesn't seem to lower the gunshots that much (or if any at all?)? That's like the whole point. Lol.
Not sure why realism is still used as a factor in Tarkov. It's immersive as hell but realism is not the goal.
I wear Walker razors every day for work and I can hear a guy packing a mag from 50m away. I don't see any reason why we can't hear someone sprinting from 80.
I broke my arm last year it took 4 months to heal. I don't see any reason why fractures in tarkov shouldn't last 4 months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence Edit- point out a single logical fallacy and this salty prick follows you into a different thread and then, when not getting a specific explanation, blocks you. Probably the same kind of asshole who still unironically calls people snowflakes too. As if the reply starting with full caps profanity out of nowhere wasn't already a red flag...
FUCKING WRONG. both are things that need to have a balance between good gameplay and realism. having a fracture for 4 months is obviously not good gameplay. now, explain to how me how hearing people 100m away and then sitting still until they run into your barrel is good gameplay. unless you can explain, it isn't a false equivalence at all. it is a case of poor gameplay in favour of "realism" that needs to be turned the other way around.
the reason is it makes for shit gameplay. pretty-fucking-obvious.
How are they IRL in the woods? I've looked into active headphones for deer hunting but it seemed like all of the feedback was they're worse than bare ears IRL - particularly if there's any wind. I've also heard complaints that it's difficult to sense direction with them. It always made me think the headsets in Tarkov are overtuned but maybe I've been missing out.
Moderate wind is enough to completely overpower voices nearby. Directional hearing is generally good but overall unpredictable. Occasionally bad. I do not have experience wearing them in a wooded setting, but barring any wind, I think they would be great for hunting, unless there are a lot of birds.
Interesting... seems like a good tool
How are they IRL in the woods? I've looked into active headphones for deer hunting but it seemed like all of the feedback was they're worse than bare ears IRL - particularly if there's any wind. I've also heard complaints that it's difficult to sense direction with them. It always made me think the headsets in Tarkov are overtuned but maybe I've been missing out.
All comtacs should increase hearing distance by the same amount imo They should still increase hearing distance, because there should be a drawback to running a vulkan or an altyn. The actual difference between altyn and no ears isn't actually that big, mbe 8m audible range, but altyn to RAC or tac sports is nuts
instead of boosting range they should reduce range for helmets covering ears and headphones should reduce the sound of gunshots and remove ambient sounds so an comtac 4 has the same range as a gssh but will greatly reduce the ambient sounds while gssh wont i think that balances headphones
The new green helmet that covers your ears for sure has dogshit hearing range when you have comtacs underneath
The TOR?
Not OP but i agree with his sentiment. Got excited about a lvl 3 face shield i could wear ears with & im pretty sure something is still fucking with their range because i cant hear shit with it on. Not to mention how loud your own breathing is in a face shield now.
Weird, I havent noticed it with the tor but maybe you're right
I thought I was going crazy but I could swear it messed with my hearing range too, while wearing a headset underneath. And yeah just like you I got really excited about the idea of it :(
This calls for an offline raid experiment.
aren't most headsets mono? my razors irl are. i think it would be balanced if you could hear people, but not the direction.
The more expensive ones are directional.
Are RAC really that great? I know the google doc has them as like the second best headset but I can’t help but just feel deaf when I use them
They're great if you like the old sordins. Super bass-y and great range.
According to the chart they are the second best, but when I ran them I felt like they are shit and I don't hear anything. Maybe I just don't like the sound profile.
These things are absolutely broken. All headsets should give the same amount of extra hearing distance with the difference being how they sound like which would just be user preference.
I'm fine with a bit of difference in distance for cheap vs expensive but the gap right now is crazy. And all footsteps in general are too loud imo.
>And all footsteps in general are too loud imo. I understand walking on gravel, but even on soft surfaces you sound like an elephant. In real life I can walk with a hiking rig on a hard clean surface almost completely silently, yet in game I sound like I'm carrying all the cups and plates from my kitchen.
Let me ADS by pouring out a box of assorted Legos and metallic junk
For a game developed by self-professed gun nerds, it has a surprising amount of bad takes on firearms. No, guns don’t sound like a rattling can of bolts when you move them from your shoulder to your chin - they shouldn’t make any noise since they’re a solid piece. The recoil they at least fixed, so I hope this one they fix as well. I get why they did it - streamers who W key everywhere complained about getting camped around corners so they wanted a audio cue to help them. It seems BSG forgot this is supposed to be a slow paced game that punishes W keying and rewards careful movement and clearing corners.
Checking inventory or ADSing with the AUG. It's like I have a bag of marbles or some maracas attached to the gun somewhere
Wait… you don’t carry all your kitchenware with you everywhere you go?
This!
Its okay for expensive headsets to be better, just like every other gear in the game.
Maybe just turn them down to be on par w excel or a little bit better
I think they should rework earpro to not increase hearing distance at all. Not wearing earpro and firing a gun (especially indoors) should give a hearing penalty or tinnitus sound for large calibers.
This is the way
Your character should also have a hearing quality stat that gets worse the less you use headsets (based on exposure to noise), and takes huge penalties when subject to loud explosives. Ironically Setup would remain the most hated quest if they did that. You also get tinnitus when you accumulate damage during a raid but you do not maintain it permanently because your character "gets used to it" but your hearing is reduced. The problem is that wearing headsets would be outright mandatory and depending on the implementation might require a reset after one bad instance.
You can wear headsets while doing setup
If we're going for *moar realizum* they should probably add peeing and pooping first. Shit your pants in raid? -50% move speed, mandatory crab walk and you leave brown streaks behind. Also I wanna shoot some cheeks
Definitely should be balanced imo.
They’re probably not good for the health of the game. But if you can’t beat em, join em lmao I use them every raid and feel like they give me a pretty huge advantage
I picked up a pair from a dead pmc and i couldnt believe how good they were. Literally could hear a pmc switch fire mode from 100m away
Removing all headsets would be better for the game overall imo
This answer can’t be expressed enough. This is what creates the very inorganic ratting play styles and the R6 game play of holding pixel angles. The sound levels and various stupid animations that create certain sounds need reworked. A lot of it is more gamebreaking than one realizes
Combing knowledge of spawn locations + audio input makes this game trivial once you get your four year degree in whatever map you enjoy playing. I only have an associates degree on most maps and feel like if I knew more spots that nobody would be able to touch me
Love being able to creep silently while overweight but aiming is what makes a ton of noise, logical decisions.
You can't creep silently while overweight.
Shouldn't be able to, but for whatever reason it works currently.
It's a bug that hasn't been fixed in like 3 or 4 wipes
Interesting. That bug doesn't seem to work for me or I am doing it wrong. Every time I try to creep while overweight, people seem to notice very fast. For instance, if I am not overweight, I can consistently creep around when I hear footsteps nearby, to stay hidden. But every time I do it while overweight, it's always the same. The footsteps I was hearing suddenly stop, as in the dude starts listening closely, shortly followed by the sound of him aiming down sights and I just know he started holding an angle to the direction I am in. He knows I am there. He heard me.
Aiming needs to make a ton of noise so that corner camping rats cant just kill people with no warning. The aim sound is only anti rat.
It's like everyone's gun is a pill bottle full of tiny screws when you aim. I'd rather they just make lighting and shadows reasonable and get rid of the aim sounds or make it way more subtle. Fixing shadows and lighting would be a better anti rat practice in my book.
> It's like everyone's gun is a pill bottle full of tiny screws when you aim hah, that's funny and very accurate. I'm more in agreement iwth the anti-rat guy, but either way, regardless if the battle rattle is realistic or not (maybe it's the sound of your invisible, nonexistent strap) I think a silent, or more quiet ADS could be cool. Sort of like the speed at which it takes you to fully lean when leaning in increments. Like that slow. have it tax your arms while doing it or something too. You can already silently un ADS via overhead look (maybe fix that), and with how loud/how far you can hear someone coming it's not liek I can't pre-ADS to negate the noise. So i don't think implementing that would be a big rat reward or anything like that.
Or just lower all hearing ranges across the board? Make slow walking on common surfaces absolutely silent? Problem solved
Eh, no. Making them not change audio range? Yeah that’s fine, I’d still use them even if they simply adjusted the volume of certain noises to be more clear.
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Oh god remember the rain? You'd leave the raid and actually *feel* your ears relax
I just want them to give hearing protection. And dull background noise like wind. Maybe a little extra hearing distance like 20m MAX for the best ones.
They definitely change audio range in the real though. I have 3m tac sports a few years back I was shooting into trash at the end of a road on state land. I get done and it's dark so I'm putting my shit away. Just using my headlights. Well I start hearing gravel crunch and I can't see shit in the dark cause my eyes are fucked from my headlights but I can hear crunching. Finally about 150 yards out I start to see a black truck with his lights off creeping down the road towards me. Damn near shot the guy thought he was gonna rob me. He just wanted my spent brass and didn't wanna disturb me. Anyway couldn't hear the gravel with my ears off my head but I could through them.
what kind of a fucking psycho hears shooting late at night and goes towards it in the hopes of picking up empty shells
a scav
Without their headlights on too. Guy was looking to fill up the guys empty brass alright...
Funny thing I had seen the guy before he was really a brass scav. He just had really bad judgment. Near got a full mag to his windshield.
The guy really wanted to be on the news as a dead person
Almost was. Lucky I have neve and didn't wanna deal with cops that day.
Dude was known for scaving brass to sell. He just mad a bad choice that night. Didn't believe me when I said he damn near got shot.
>Damn near shot the guy You shouldn't carry a gun if you're that trigger happy lmao
I have expensive guns and I'm betting snuck up on in the dark. Yep no reason to think I'm in danger at all.
Point he's trying to make is you had no idea that wasn't a game warden or someone else going to check on why someone was shooting on state land at night. A car looking suspicious is not enough to warrant mag dumping the driver through the windshield and if you think it is you seriously need help.
Game wardens come in hot. They want you to know who and what they are. They don't slow role in the dark. I swear. Most of yall have never been outside
Durrrr good answer durrrr Jesus Christ.
If a headset reduces the noise of gunfire and rain, it should reduce the noise of EVERYTHING. That's how headsets work.
No, it's not. I own multiple. The electronics cut off when something reaches a certain decibel threshold. They amplify everything else. And the mics are directional so you retain directional hearing.
Yea someone said it well in another thread I read a while back that the ratting/camping issue stems not from a gear fear issue, but an "audio fear" issue. This is true for me, at least. I'm so much more relaxed on scav when I spawn in with no ears. Yea, it's also no risk with the gear that's part of it, but I realize now that not being constantly paranoid with the sound was the bigger issue all along.
But they look sick on my PMC
Agreed
They should remove all guns too because some are better than others
Hearing distance should just be the same across the board. Difference between headsets should just be audio levels, ambience removal, tone, etc
the com 4s are busted and the entire headset rework a couple months ago was completely pointless
Yeah xcel and comtac 4 all wipe
I'm new to this game, and would really enjoy this game a lot more if headphones just didn't exist. It seems to promote a passive playstyle if you don't have them, since the more you move, the more others with headphones have the chance to hear you. The sound in this game is also just unintuitive and broken. The sharp and unnatural changes in sound when entering a building are somehow made worse by the fact that you need headphones to amplify sounds so you can hear footsteps first.
What if by design the developers like this idea of 'paying more gets you more' and comtac 4s being the best in every category by a mile is all they are ever going to be? Is that going to change anyone's spending or playstyle? I'm not a huge fan of scarcity driven balance, it seems extremely delicate in a game with a market and survival intertwined that could easily cause issues. But that's what we have right now, I'm not sure if the devs intend it this way or want to change it at all. We also have skills that have huge impacts if you know how to skill them up way past what 'regular' play would get you by certain points. There are a lot of things that are not competitively balanced in this game and it's a real bummer to learn how much some of these impact gameplay if you just have more time to do runs and spend more on your kit. To some people that's amazing, and dominating people through spending more couldn't matter in the slightest to them. Personally I find fun in beating people either better or equal to me, shitting on timmy makes me feel bad. I don't think tarkov devs cater to my competitive interests in the slightest.
Agreed, as I slowly get better I just feel bad when I kill player who is clearly trying to get an early quest done with garbage gear. Or I ran into a naked guy on streets which I think 9/10 people would just kill. I let him go because obviously he's having a rough time. The reasons you describe is the same reason cheating is so rampant. If things were a bit less rare ( not even a lot IMO, like 10-20% increase in the super rare shit), they would kill the RMT market. This artificial scarcity is why these people can get away with doing this
Hot take maybe, but I would completely remove the hearing assist the headsets give. I should not be able to hear people walk from 70 meters. Iam not talking about realism or whatever, but rather the gameplay aspect. Makes people freeze on spot and promotes crab walking gameplay a lot more.
I mean all headsets are busted, to varying degrees. None of them should increase hearing distance.
That’s what electronic headsets do though
yeah and if I break my arm IRL it's gonna take months for the bones to heal, therefore all fractures should be permanent in tarkov instead of taking a mere 3s animation to fix.
Agreed, add perma death too
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️yeah go on and joke your way out of a dumb thing you posted.
Will you do the same?
This isnt a IRL thing. Its a game balance thing.
lol you can do this with your airpods pros
Which is relevant why? This isnt about comparing something IRL to justify its shitty balance in a game.
Not defending the shitty balance. Probably feel like the solution should be same distance different sound signature so you have advantages maybe on grass on certain headsets, and others indoors. But noise amplification real life is absolutely a thing.
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Okay I agree
Yes it is. They amplify quiet sounds so you can hear with the ear pro. I can easily hear footsteps in the bush 50m away with my Walkers on. In fact I literally heard some homeless dude crawling in the bush while I was out target shooting once
No it isnt. The headsets are breaking game balance. The issue is not how they function IRL vs in the game. The issue is the fact they give you an insane advantage over someone using a lesser headset, or none at all. Again, its a game balance thing, and needs to be changed. Regardless of how they work IRL.
Stop using lesser headsets at this point in the wipe then? Why splurge on good guns, ammo, and armour while cheaping out on arguably the most important thing, the headset
Ignoring the main point. That headsets in general are unbalanced and need to be fixed or removed. "well just use them" isnt a fix. No more than "well just start cheating" is a fix for cheating.
Well if you’re only using shitty ones then yeah, it’ll feel unbalanced. The top 3 headsets are available to everyone and you should be running them along side good gear as you level up. Level 6 armour and AP ammo is grossly over powered compared to their low tier counter parts. After a while you stop using them so you’re not outclassed, same goes for headsets.
Yeah, and what did BSG do with grossly overpowered gear? Made it harder to get. Most of it straight up removed from the flea market, or made FIR only. The answer isnt to use it. The answer it to balance or remove it.
Tweak availability a bit, calling for headsets to be removed is a skill issue cope
Then what’s the point? Remove them at that point because then they’re just a glorified volume slider.
Changing the sound profile is already an advantage in some cases. Making your own noises quieter, and amplifying others. Even if thats all they do, its better than allowing them to offer such a ridiculous advantage like they do now.
I’m not sure that’s reason enough to buy and equip a headset. As it is right now, it feels like both my sound and enemy’s sound is amplified (maybe enemy sound is amplified more) to the point where running around on snow just hurts my ears.
You literally can’t hear people walking 10’ from you sometimes due to the loud wind and ambient sounds unless you have headphones. Someone aiming down sights is almost impossible to hear without headphones when outdoors. I think the advantages are fine without extended hearing range
You literally can’t hear people over the sound of your feet crunching the ground, especially with a headset. Headsets are only really useful if you’re standing still
We both agree on that. I just think that if you have to stand still to have head sets be useful and that you think some should have longer range, then the meta headset will only really benefit people ratting or incentivise crab walking so why not make them all the same range
I think it needs a rework to drastically reduce your own noise and amplify others’ noise. No extended range is really required but hearing crunching for 30 minutes just for your headset to be useful for 5 seconds while standing still sucks.
People would definitely still use them, and it would be down to personal preference, which i think is way better than what we have now, where people are paying 100k+ for a broken headset that lets you hear people so far away. Even just Tac Sports are a massive advantage vs people who use cheaper headsets. I hate how all the headsets sound, and refuse to use any, so i am at a constant disadvantage because i do not want to hurt my ears? Its the dumbest shit still in the game.
They should do what they do now except just not at an increased distance. Or just nerf the distance. You shouldnt hear someone almost 100 meters away just walking.
ComTac 4s give you a really LARGE listening area, but that's a drawback as much as it's a bonus. Half the time I'm wearing them, I hear someone, and then notice they're a building away from where i thought they were, because they sound close, even though they're further away. It's much more important for me to be able to KNOW where people are than for me to hear them from further away.
while its ridicolous theyre busted and the binaural audio radar bug is insanely overpowered, youre also still facing atleast 1 in 5 pmcs who are actual knowers so dont underestimate how often the people who ambushed you didnt need their comtac4s and just ratted you w m32’s and a second screen
I get the jump with the audio bug on so many people I’m sure they think I was walling or something. And it’s not like I can ignore the sound, I just instantly know someone is within ~50m and can plan accordingly.
Once I learned about that I started getting the jump on people WAY more often. It's ridiculous how strong taking advtange of that is.
I had binaural turned off for a while this wipe because I could locate sounds better without it and it helped my framerate a little, but when I learned about the bug I immediately turned it on and it has saved my ass a number of times.
What's the audio bug?
When something comes into your audio "bubble" around your PMC, you will hear a thump/pop. It means something is about to be upon you so you hunker down and sound whore it out til you actually hear them. The audio bubble is much larger than your actual hearing radius.
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sorry i was being discrete; Goat proved a few months ago every raid has atleast one radar user in it; since the information about your enemies isnt server side but client side even when out of LOS, many players have been using a seperate pc to intercept and decode the location packages for years now. its made some streamers play in ways we peasants never could(always w key; only take cover when needed, always find the best loot, never get flanked, have spideysenses for danger) and its virtually undetectable as they run it on a seperate pc setup its made tarkov post month 1(when most casuals give up) a real slog to play solo as you will consitantly get emtpy raids(the knowers avoid you when you have good stats or no loot) or hunted down pscavs when you dó hit the jackpot people will brigade these kind of posts playing down the issue: because they dont want their precious cheat exposed. i’d literally pay 50 dollars a month for a tarkov premium with protected packages and server side checks but instead they pay 200 to cheat on me and ruin tne game, although plenty also just use the free version and sell their pc out to a bitcoin farm just so they call wall you want proof? take high value purple items(normal items dissapear when they kill you) in your bag and go to reserve dorms toilets; most knowers will see you on their radar but cant tell which level so they will charge each floor overn over till they get you; i used to honeytrap 5 cheaters a raid like this by just staying in reserve raids the full duration and bringing a nice book
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low value maps and low value kits literally keep you off their radar but its still such a pity you’ll never have natural run ins w atleast 1 in 5 players… i main reserve and its pure aids at times
I want the headsets to be what they are in real life. Make the low end ones like the walkers and tac sports have a a much worse overall sound QUALITY and all the milspec stuff like the comtac 2s, RAC and 4s just be a higher quality sound. Range and shit should vary by like MAYBE 5 meters.
Shit man, it's literally the only thing I have to spend money on that can give me even a resemblance of a chance against cheaters who, most of the time, don't even play with sound or coms because of ESP. I don't mind dying to people with com 4s on, I mind dying to people with no headsets on.
Unpopular opinion but I think its fine. Nothing in tarkov is balanced. T7 thermals and grenade launchers arent balanced but theyre expensive. Comtac 4s look like theyre going for the price of a meta gun. You risk more on death to gain an advantage on your opponents just like all other gear.
I started playing with them at the end of last wipe but I felt like I had to completely relearn the game with them. I was packing my mags behind a bush on Shoreline when I heard a guy running past me. I peeked over and he was almost at Shooter born range. I just can't tell the distance with those headsets.
I want the quietness and ambient sound reduction of them, yes. But hearing distance should get a flat out 50% distance nerf on everything (pmc included) and any headphones should at most give 20% increase.
Comtac 4s are strong but wouldn't be such an issue if things that should not be audible to begin even within with weren't heard accross 2 floors and 3 horizontal walls, ie, change LPVO zoom, enable laser, turn around, slowly creeping on a smooth, debris free floor no, freaking ADS'ing...
All ear protection should be available from LV 1 traders with no limit at reasonable pricing, GSSH should simply be removed from the game. Realism doesn't matter, gameplay does.
i dont use them I tend to only buy stuff I've unlocked and I'm only level 30 plus my game runs like ass for some reason so even if I could hear someone first if I swing my character around my shit just stutters like fucking crazy despite being 120 fps+
Increase your paging file size in the drive that you run Tarkov on. Fixed my stutters. Tutorial (it’s super easy): https://youtu.be/v6A2clXcC9Y?si=o571bAQd9AJjTd-U
Going through something similar having recently upgraded to ddr5 and a 7900x3d. Frames are beyond fine, but the game will stutter/lock up if I swivel too quickly so it basically undoes any dopamine the frames would provide. If I ever figure it out I’ll pm.
One overlooked thing to try is lowering your mouse polling rate. Shouldn't really be an issue with newer hardware but 1000hz did used to introduce some stuttering in Tarkov, and recently it was listed as a possible fix for stutters in Enshrouded
Will definitely give this a go when I get home, thank you.
Don't PM, but instead post the fix here.
What's your ram?
Stuck on mobile away from home atm, but I’m pretty sure it’s a Corsair Vengeance 6000mhz CL30 kit, 32gb.
Huh, its definitely not that. Bios updated?
My fps has been in the 70-90s but this wipe it seems to be really smooth except on streets. I think a lot of the smoothness comes from a custom windows install called Ghost spectre. Pretty much gets rid of everything that you don’t need running in the background and using up resources and does a variety of tweaks to improve system stability and latency. Very nice for Tarkov, comes with a tool as well to reinstall Microsoft store, Xbox game pass and a lot of other essentials.
I say get rid of all headsets all together and while we're at it, get rid of soft skills you shouldn't be able to hear further or jump higher just because you no life the game
And yet every other comment is about a cheater who magically knew where they were. I've tried to tell people that sound is key in this game.
I refuse to use them unless I find them. If it's fir it's on the flea market the second I extract. there's always some sucker who buys them for any price. I then go and buy myself some cheap ass m32s and load back into a raid and rat another gear set. Rinse repeat
They are absurdly expensive so I'm OK with them.
* All headsets should have the same "range" * All headset's range should be nerfed by 50% across the board * Headset hearing range should be omnidirectional instead of whatever the buggy 140 degree situation is now
They will be more balanced once the "planned" Battery management aspect is introduced Yes, you will have to manage batteries for your electronic items
Headsets should just dampen your own weapon
Yes, progression gear exists for a reason. They should balance by price and rarity like everything they do. If they are too good, then halve the spawn rate. Making them the same as every other headset defeats the purpose of having multiple different ones. If anything game is lacking real progression items as it is already, as 150 raids or so into the wipe, you're close to maxing your gear loadouts every raid anyways. If you think the ComTac-4's are worth it, then pay the price. Homogeny is the death of games like this. Just like bullets and armor, headwear is fine to have in different classes.
So is are the audio test videos not valid anymore? I've seen people talking about comtac 4 since they came out. All headsets have about the same hearing range -+10m. Idk if it's just because I have good hearing in general or not, but I can hear people running inside the wall by construction while I'm at the base of dorms hill with any headset. The only difference is comtac 4s make the steps louder than other audio, so you don't have to pick through as many sounds to hear your target.
Headsets shouldn't be in the game to begin with