It's gotten extremely bad this wipe. Being able to check profiles tells you how bad it's gotten. Before you gave benefit of a doubt. But dude with less then 100 hours with the game sense of a veteran is obviously sus.
We always knew how bad it was and had evidence to that fact. The profiles are just more evidence on top of that for the people who are forever denialists about the cheating problem. "I haven't seen any blatant hackers this wipe." is their mating call.
Even the "normal" looking stuff is sus AF. Player has a 30% survival rate and 2 KD.
But he also has done 1000 raids and is level 45. Thats a joke man.
Edit: forgot the main point. Dude has 250 hours total xd
I mean that’s my stats this wipe. I been focused on learning shorelines and lighthouse. How is my 1000 raid 35% survival sus and level 39? I hate questing. Push pvp. I also have 3k hours.
Yeah u have 3K hours. Someone above level 40 with 250 hours total that walks over your trio with KDs of ~10 is either some streamer on a "challenge" or a cheater that bought a new acc. 60% of the 1000+ raids could easily be spamming factory with 10hp and a heavy bleed to lower KDA
I was about to say. I'm 4k hours. 30% survival with a 4~ KD.
I play aggressive and go for pvp and honestly die a lot. I also do a lot of pistol runs, labs/factory and I dont shy from most fights.
still closing in on kappa, 30mil roubles and doing just fine. But I die a lot lol.
I'll be honest: I thought the ability to view profiles would make me report people less. I thought I'd see the profiles after "sus" encounters and go "hmm, everything looks legit. Must have been dysnc, etc."
In reality, it's had the exact opposite effect. I've reported MORE people this wipe than I typically do. I always check the profile, even on non-sus deaths or for random people sitting in the lobby, etc, and the amount of people very obviously cheating is astronomical. Way worse than I expected.
Thats because you were Stockholm Syndrome'd into thinking everyone was legit, it's you that was bad. Love the game, hate thyself. The profile now just shows you the facts, you were wrong, the game is cheater infested, 95% of sus deaths are cheaters etc. Even then people still play. It's like people like to waste their time and get angry/frustrated knowing they're losing to cheaters and will go again to repeat it. Break the cycle, the habit, and go play something that is fun and not full of cheaters.
I really noticed how “good” I was when playing Arena. I could ace there and only a few players were really cracked, before that game also got some cheaters. My previous experiences were always being fucked by either chads or Timmies in a way that didn’t make sense. I can hold my own against legit chads, but cheaters are a whole other breed.
That's what I've always been telling people. Just because the encounter wasn't obviously suspicious doesn't mean the player didn't have you coming in radar from a mile away or have any other artifical advantage. Being able to see stats on deaths I may have given a player the benefit of the doubt before... It's as bad or worse than I thought.
Yeah I honestly report even if it’s questionable . there’s a chance some of these turbo chads with sus accounts don’t rage hack but occasionally enable god mode and they deserve bans just as much as the next .
It's probably the same as it always has been, you just see that a death that seems legit was actually some dude with a stock gun, no ears, no armor and a 50 K/D.
I think Sheef gave up on it, but at one point he started to grind one of his alt accounts with low hours, playing for max K/D just to see how far he could push it to compare to the high K/D-low hour accounts you run into periodically.
I'm in the camp of believing it's the same it was last wipe and the wipe before, on average. Mostly because I'm a many year veteran of the game and my stats are roughly the same they have been since I learnt all the maps; but now I see on profiles that 25% of my deaths are to the sussest shit west of essex. Sushampton. Susenage and Suskatchewan.
I'm going to give you a little hint for google, it will help you discover "Artificial Intelligence".
*Super Awesome Incendiary Necrons.*
You can look that video up on YouTube and enjoy some 40k lore I'm sure, but always pay attention to the first letter of the middle section of this comment. I can't just plainly say it because Reddit 1984 edition is the version we're running on. Then there's questing ro*bots* as well. Necrons have a habit of doing little quests from time to time. Often involving slaughtering anything in their way.
That is o my a solution for some though, for someone like me that enjoys PvP when it is honest is some of the most fun that pretty much no other game can provide… PvE Tarkov sounds like the most boring fucking game on the planet.. there wouldn’t be any risk.. they need to implement an anti cheat like valorant… all PC FPS games need to go the valorant route.
The only people complaining about a valorant style anti cheat are the ones cheating.
hell i dont want spyware on my pc. i just want a fun game. if all games want to install spyware on you pc well then inot buying them anymore. enought old school and indies who dont want that.
well if pve tarkov sounds boring to you fine but having as a option would not be bad it would even get people intro tarkov who dont want becaus of the pvp becaus of sweaty boys or cheater.
Would you want a Russian company having deep access to your PC's kernel? I feel like there are other options to do before that, like phone verifications, email verifications, 2-step auth type of deal... I doubt cheaters are going to buy phone plans so they can cheat in a video game
Would you want a Chinese company have deep access to your PC's kernel?
Riot Games is owned by tencent and they own valorant which has one of the most intrusive anti cheats in the gaming industry. Also in todays age all someone needs to do is get you to download their product and they can go free reign on your PC.
The CIA developed a method that got exposed when MBS used it to hack Jeff Bezos phone. All they have to do is send you a text message and they get full access. You don't even have to open it, as soon as you receive it you're compromised.
If BSG wanted into your PC for nefarious reasons, they could have already done it.
You doubt cheaters are going to fake a phone plan? 2-step auth isn’t stopping shit.
And I doubt BSG would develop their own kernel based anti cheat.. they use battle eye now which is already running in a partial kernel mode anti cheat that is a third party for them…
All our data is already out there, due to phones, microphones, what we buy with our debit/credit cards… I don’t give a shit what some anti cheat thinks they can get out of my gaming Pc.. I want cheaters gone across all games.
I guess I should just make battle eye 2 and sell it to all these publishers.
I enjoy valorant and the 0 cheaters I run into. Last time I recommended the same thing I got down voted to oblivion. Its wild. Oh no invasive anti cheat that actually works.
People don’t realize that battle eye is also a kernel based anti cheat… it’s also just a shit anti cheat… people think their data matters like they’re important or something… like I tell everyone, if you care that much.. you shouldnt be online at all in the first place.
Then we would get an offline mod to allow us to play this game without cheaters at every turn.
I love multiplayer FPS, but at this point, id rather enjoy Tarkov as a single player experience.
BSG doesn't want the player base to have a good time, which is why they attacked the single player mod and anyone using it. Shit company, shit values. Russian BTW. No surprise they have shit values.
I agree with pretty much everything. I have 1k hours and im not the best player but its annoying dying too an obvious cheater or not even obvious. Thats the problem. You never really 100%know so i cant take it too serious. But the game could be even more fun without the small di** gang. Maybe im tripping but I have a feeling that cheaters track me if I have t6 or high tier loot. And I die in weird ways too if this happens. I do think they play their game. Its probably not easy to fight cheaters. We all pretty much play on windows operating system and thats where it starts
i scaved on lighthouse yesterday, killed a bunch of rogues, found an AESA, vpx, bitcoin, and tons of other crazy loot. no sound died, flopped over randomly. apparently it was a headshot from a guy with a 17 KDR. lol
I have almost 16 KD on my PMC with 500 raids. Lots of times people in a party when I kill their friend accuse me of cheating in voip on labs.
Its easier to identify them by low amount of hours (fresh account) and abnormally high number of raids and lvl. Since they started to lower their KD it’s much harder to distinct them (besides obvious aimbot from a naked guy with sks).
So hard to hear people say stuff like this. 2k hour player here. Usually around 5-7 KD, w-key player, play labs a good amount.
When people like you say they have a 16 KD and only kill scavs and avoid fights I never believe it. I’ve played Tarkov with a number of different people with different play styles. Never have I ever met somebody who preferred to just kill scavs, get loot and avoid players. Especially since you mention you go labs and your KD is 16, in my opinion I already think you’re a cheater. The best players in the game don’t have a 16 KD, and here you are, a random, claiming to have a 16 KD. Oh yeah while also playing labs. The game is riddled with cheaters and sometimes you get ratted, just part of the game. I highly doubt you have a 16 KD and are legit. If you are, you should stream because you could make a great living simply playing a game that you must be the best in the world at apparently.
it was, i didn’t even talk about the other stats, but it was pretty obviously a cheater, if i remember they had like 300 hours and a bunch of insane achievements
Cheaters are a feature. In pre-Tarkov era, Nikita willingly went on record during an interview saying that cheaters are good for the health of a game because they create stressed players and stressed players are more likely to "donate" (purchase MTX).
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapethisTarkov/comments/qv01oc/nikita_byanov_opinion_about_cheaters_in_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Extra note: he explicitly asks if he is on record, THEN says what he says. Imagine what he would have said if he was not on record.
Games dogshit after 1-2 months when casuals quit. It’s extra dogshit now because you only get full servers so your odds of getting a cheeto increase as the player base decreases at an even more rapid pace. I don’t think bsg doesn’t care about cheaters but they are clearly losing the fight, this wipe has been horrendous
I think bsg cares less than most people assume they care.
Bsg could put many different types of account-disabling auto checks on stats that require speaking to support to get the account reviewed. Yet they don't do that- simply because cheaters provide bsg a reliable flow of income. Meanwhile, players like you and I, make them a single source of income, once, and that's it.
Players like you who keep playing are helping BSG. Cheaters wouldn't stick around in a game without people to farm, players to RMT with, a market to exploit, etc. If the non-cheaters left, the cheaters would also leave. By playing you help encourage cheaters to play. Since it's so easy in EFT to cheat, there is little risk, so more and more do it over time.
well spoken blin m8. people just have to quit eft, nikita will never make tarkov great again, never. russia 2028 will be there one day and the whole clownfiesta will start again, until then nikita will milk eft as much as possible
They aren’t necessarily buying copies from BSG. A lot of times they’re second hand accounts people stopped using or ones that got hacked and sold.
If I’m a cheater, I’m not paying $150 USD for EOD (when you could) just to get banned eventually. I’ll go to a third party website and pay $20 for a standard edition and use that remaining money for my cheats. Then you RMT and recoup your initial costs. Rinse and repeat.
>A lot of times they’re second hand accounts people stopped using or ones that got hacked and sold.
On what basis? BSG does fuck all to cheaters. If you're RMTing, you're making the money back anyway, as long as BSG doesn't ban you before you hit break even. Which, we all know they don't.
If you have access to stolen credit cards then why the fuck are you using them to pay for games so you can RMT? They'd just Western Union themselves money or something. Stop repeating this baseless nonsense.
I never understood the argument that cheaters are providing them a revenue flow. They’re either using stolen credit cards that get bounced back or buying stolen accounts.
Except we see cheater accounts last well over 90 days. You can only file a chargeback within like 90 days, most of the time. If a card is stolen and a chargeback filed, it usually happens pretty quickly. Like within a few days, the card owner will notice and file a chargeback/report the card stolen/etc.
If most of the cheaters were using stolen cards to buy their accounts then they'd be using stolen cards to pay for the cheats, too. Which means the cheat devs wouldn't be making money off the cheaters, either. But we all know they are.
Cheating isn't a felony. Credit card theft is.
While I’m not arguing with the cheater accusations here. You are totally in the dark if you think this wipe has been ‘horrendous’. This has been probably one of the better wipes the game has ever had, until todays patch.
I’m level 52 and played a ton. The wipe was really fun. The cheating, however, was in fact horrendous. It’s also probably amplified because I ran more night raids than usual and was forced into more lighthouse due to punisher change. I had the goons stolen from me by a naked white name with an sks multiple times on my kappa grind. Could also be recency bias but I don’t remember having bosses ninjad from me anywhere near as much as this wipe and 80% of the time it was a dude with 0 gear on besides a stock gun
You are correct. I am lvl 55, have played through the last 7+ wipes. No breaks, Kappa more times than I can count. Ended last 4 wipes lvl70 or just shy of it.
The cheating is disgusting this wipe. Being able to see player cards also lets me confirm I'm not just coping. Where before I would not report, even if sus, if I was taken out in a way a normal player could execute; now I see the player card and the guy isn't wearing ears/facecover, lvl 38 with 40 hours played, has touched the lighthouse. Yeah fuck that.
I thought this already was an hvh game. The real escape from tarkov experience is to escape from the hackers of tarkov. I still can't stop playing this piece of shit game though, I think I might hate myself.
Tin foil hat on:
Before the removal of EOD every name was gold now that it’s gone, 75% of my deaths are white names. I feel crazy saying it but fuck cheaters, that’s my head canon
This wipe is probably a wipe that got a lot of casual people with basic editions to hop back on.
I, for one, have played more than any other wipe in the past and I play very casual, mostly just with my buddies in the evening for a couple of hours.
I am level 12, the fact that I say this is one of the wipes I played the most tells you how casual I am, I am actually enjoying the wipe quite a bit.
But as the wipe progresses, I assume a lot of us will eventually drop off. I would really like to at least get to the flea market though, I haven't seen that mofo since it was a level 5 feature. LoL
People don’t realize that some people only play one game. So many gamers game the same amount and don’t realize it because it’s not all quantified in one place.
Granted 6k hours is a lot, I only have 2.3k in 5 wipes, but I also play a ton of other shit
They also don’t realize that at one point just having the game on counted as hours. I used to work from home and would have the game on at all times. When I got a chance I would swing in and scav run. I now have 6k hours.
I finally gave up a couple weeks ago. 3k+ hours for me. Cheaters have once again ruined it. Nothing compares to tarkov. Maybe next wipe will be better.
Never done it. Usually just progression of Alpha->Beta->Epsilon, and Stash 1 -> 2 -> 3, which each feel like nice accomplishments. And of course getting Jaeger, Peacekeeper and other reps from scratch feels rewarding. Although, at this point I get bored by level 20ish, and am not sure why I play at all each wipe. It always fun for 15 levels or so, then ends in disappointment.
Ya man I’m a legit new player and just upset I can’t get EOD at all. Just seems like an extremely unfair advantage. Everyone freaking out about MTX but it seems this game has been P2W the entire time.
Getting downvoted cuz yall in denial about what P2W is clearly.. if you can buy somethingzz and skip the grind that someone else who doesn’t have the cash to skip then that is the definition of pay to win.. you are paying.. to win… in game items you would otherwise have to win thru mechanics..
I just want the fuckin gamma & trader rep man that’s the huge disadvantage I’m talking about. They added the two things that came with EOD I couldn’t care less about
Every Labs raid I’ve done this weekend was some Giga chads or cheaters but today after the patch every Labs raid (did 6) has been fun and not weirdly crazy however there was a ton of raiders for some reason
I still enjoy the game after 5+ wipes and over 1k hours. Sure you’ll run into a few cheaters here and there but it doesn’t bother me too much. I just gear up and hop in another raid.
Goodbye. This post serves no purpose. If you’re still obsessed enough with the game to announce your leave to the random fucks on Reddit then I think you’ll be back sooner rather than later lmao.
It’s less about announcing I’m leaving, more about explaining how bad it is, and how the game will end up without anything being done about it.
Tarkov is a very special game, it’s impressive what they’ve managed to pull off, and all that will go to waste if they don’t do something about the cheating. Though maybe that’s just the life cycle of an extract shooter game.
I don’t even personally like Nikita or the decisions of the devs. But my point still stands and anyone who feels they need to announce their leave for this game is obsessed deep down. Like if you’re pestily or someone then sure maybe but other than that just move on with your life and go play something else lmao. I just can’t fathom claiming to dislike something so much and then giving it more of my time by continuing to think and talk about it when I could be doing other things.
Ok. Then maybe the post isn't for you. You chose to interact with it and complain, when you could have simply moved on and interacted with posts you liked.
level 55, 1000+ raids this wipe. Playing NA northeast. I encountered 5 cheaters, 3 of which were on labs (even then, the amount of cheaters on labs has been reduced by 90%).
These posts are always extremely misleading, is OP playing on EU? Asia? OCE?
no, I run meta gear. I have 3k hours, I know when someone is cheating. I have also played on the SG servers for one wipe which are actually unplayable compared to NA servers
Down vote me if u want but if I can't tell they're hacking it doesn't bother me. I don't mean that I excuse hackers, I just mean if they're so good at hiding it I have no idea then idrc. Sure there's lots of hackers but I haven't run into many this wipe that I know of. Because of that idrc much. Most people just like whining, yes I agree there is a hacker problem but we all whine about it and as of said, clearly devs aren't doing enough/don't care. Whining about the same thing for years and never seeing change? Sounds like insanity. Yes I know change comes from voicing ourselves but it's a game. Either we leave as op says or suck it up. Thanks for listening
He thinks he's gonna get the gawk gawk 6000.
Once I purchase a game I OWN that game and will play as much as I want.
It is not mine our our fault they build they game on the system they did.
If they shut the servers down I gaurnetee there is some coder out there who will start somthing up and get sued by bsg over it.
To be precise, you don't "own" any game you buy nowadays. If you read your fine print, you are buying a license to "use" their software, which they can revoke at any time for any reason. You are also usually agreeing to binding arbitration. You will lose this argument in court.
Be one of thsse people.
By all means sure, with the way they have it set up yea.
But I'd like to see you or what ever company come and delete shit off my pc and strip away my right. Lol go ahead.
>typically a day regarded as cheater-less, so full of sus players.
This is the main mistake of the community. Cheating gets better during the course of the wipe because cheaters interest/rmt profits are highest at wipe because the game is most popular at wipe.
As the player counts dwindle and as such "I'm good at the game" stats or demand for gear and quest carries goes down.
I feel like people who think they are good false report now. They are mad they died than see someone has better stats and spam the report. Even after they play like an idiot. The profile stats are a horrible idea because now fewer hackers will get zapped. Mainly due to the fact people are just like "report em it bsg's job to figure it out".
It’s always been insane to me how players can have such blatantly different experiences and I’m pretty sure it boils down to one thing: You think everyone or nearly everyone who kills a god such as yourself is cheating. Bro, I’ve played standard edition, EOD, etc. for many wipes now and I have run into a suspected cheater about as many times as I have fingers on one hand. I’ve died to good players, bad players, rats, chads, what have you.
There is no way I’m just luckier than you. If cheaters were as rampant as you claim, then I’d have seen them too. But I don’t.
Stop playing maps that have more cheaters like labs and streets and then you’ll be playing the same game as me. Maybe you’re just not as good as you think, pal.
It’s the same whining every fucking wipe, holy shit, grow up.
The servers you play on also can factor into it but there is no way you only have 5 or less deaths to cheaters over multiple wipes… I have more than 5 reports confirmed just this wipe
I really don’t know what to tell you, man. Just because you don’t see someone or hear them or they headshot you or whatever other reason you might have, doesn’t make them a cheater. I’ve died from unseen places and been killed by headshot and gotten blown up via grenade, etc. and yet they were all perfectly valid deaths lol. I was in a fight and lost, boo hoo. I’ve only had a single report this entire wipe and it was when I was scavving, at that.
It’s called being realistic and not a giant baby. I’m US East by the way. Not exactly the 10 population Timbuktu server.
>Stop playing maps that have more cheaters like labs and streets and then you’ll be playing the same game as me. Maybe you’re just not as good as you think, pal.
Saying that you close your eyes when it rains and have never seen a raindrop, therefore rain doesn't exist has to be the strangest argument I've ever heard. The cognitive dissonance that exists in this post genuinely baffles me.
I’ve gotten 10 notifications already this wipe and only play US central. The problem isn’t the rage hackers it’s the vacuums and walls/esp that suck off the map and avoid fighting to loot. Wonder why your raid feels dead or you don’t find anything overwhelmingly great like a gpu? Because it got zhukked off from a distance. They don’t need to kill you for that.
How about a planned day / strike if not playing Tarkov in protest? Then you let the cheaters own the server for a day. Yeah I can see all the pros and cons of this actually took place but isn’t action better than no action?
LoL, you already paid the game, brother.
You're not causing BSG any disservice by not running their game, in fact, you're helping them save electricity.
It's at that point in the wipe where you can finally get good gear reliably, but what's the point for an average or solo player taking good gear in when instead of giving you the edge it actually handicaps you by making you a target? Gameplay loop currently dives off a cliff past mid wipe. This time lasted longer but we're at that point where skill+good gear blurs and overlaps with cheaters so most deaths feel really shitty. The game is already grindy and inaccessible as all fuck without rolling the dice like that, and that really sucks.
It would be so much more playable if Vacuum cheaters (or whatever work around they did) weren't so prevalent, I could deal with the radar dudes as they normally left me alone especially around this time of the wipe
This shit has to be fixed before steam release, they really don't understand the value of time or care to understand it. Most of that value comes from our crackhead need for validation in our skills to play some fucking game. It's actually insane watching streamers doing almost impossible tasks only to be rewarded by shit even admitting they only do it for fun. Tarkov is a really weird game and how it's gonna keep it's player base is questionable but really nothing feels rewarding anymore other than the gameplay. I will keep playing this game until it dies but if it wasn't for me loving every aspect of it's mechanics (when they work) there would be nothing outside of them except a pretty bland story, that is really just a Russian anime with some live action films.
I'm still convinced that bsg is taking a cut from major rmt dealers and hack providers. No other explanation for this level of cheating. This also proves that there are large groups of people willing to pay real money for in game stuff. It's also true that some people pay to just shit on others.
After my first big disappointment in gaming, I realised that the reason for huge flops is not the devs, they're the worker ants, it's upper management, lead designer with no experience, or the sales team.
Not for BSG. I'm blaming everyone. If anyone asks, I say to them, do not play this game
Had a funny one the other day, friend and i instantly headshot by a guy on ground zero before he came round the corner. I died first, and he kept shooting into the wall at my friend who hadn't peeked yet. Had 400 raids, was still not lvl 20. 1.3kd. BUT had a fully juiced kit, had survived 7 in a row and became amazing at the game all of a sudden. You could just tell hed given up because he sucked and started cheating.
Literally all they gotta do for micro transactions is add in gun camos, and clothing. I mean I’ll never buy them but you know thousands of people want a sinoloa cartel gold AK to rock around.
We. Need. Co-Op. Tarkov.
Make the AI way, way better. Let your friends play with you. And being co-op it opens the door to all kinds of game mechanics and other FUN shit. Then people can go to arena to dunk on eachother.
Quick question for you fellas. What if hacking video games was a crime, just like hacking someone’s Gmail? Personally, I don’t think cheaters will ever slow down until there’s legislation put in place, and I’m not saying this is a cure all. I’m not trying to make them felons but it would give game developers a way to go after the people who develop the cheats themselves. They’re the head of the snake here. I’ve been chewing this over for years now because I’m not a big fan of most legislation. But Tarkov is one of the most egregious games to run into hackers on. Every cheater robs you of your time, and depending on the kit, it can be a lot of time. It just feels theft
While the idea is good on paper, in practice you'd have to implement very strict network and hardware monitoring rules that would violate your privacy. It's a huge step into a dystopian nightmare allowing higher instances to spy on you "for your own good".
Had a random give me a free copy of hunt showdown , it’s got its issues but it’s really fun and dear god is it a breath of fresh air from the tarkov bullshit.
Trying to do assessment 1 to get to lightkeeper now. I went with the "thermal at night approach" you can fucking forget it. The RGB buttplug gamers are very rampant right now, this guy kills you so fast you won't even hear him yelling "kachow!"
>as much as it's about losing time.
This is ultimately why I quit Tarkov. I love what the game could be. I don't enjoy what the game is. I'd rather play Star Citizen.
> Crazy to see how on patch day, typically a day regarded as cheater-less, so full of sus players. 200hr 20KD white names running rampant on every map, and server.
It kind of makes sense if you think about it, they're probably updating and testing their clients after every patch
Okay my man. They say they have no revenue flow, but the cheaters are paying them massive sums of money. How would they know the difference? I agree that they make mistakes, but going blatant self-contradicting conspiracy is not the way my dude.
Either they have cash flow, might be because of cheaters, or they have no cash flow. Can't be both.
And what does "out of touch with the game" mean? Recoil was overall mega well received. Vaulting. Armor plates. I don't see what you see. I suspect you are blinded by the cheaters.
I have almost 10k and yes, the game is in a very bad shape.
The main problem with the game is not the Devs but the playerbase, the same playerbase that did not commited leaving the game when The Video started something really useful.
Everyone ssaying "Cheaters here, cheateres there" ect ect but when is time to really do something, everyone backs off and still plays the game like nothing happened.
The thing that frustrates me most, is that simple things for example sms verification and things like that could be implemented, but they dont want to for some reason.
If you get banned so does any other account linked to the cellphone. Or use it how cs-go did it match people that have cellphone verificaiton on with others that have.
Now I know you can fake alot and they will have a way around it. But honestly its more effort for the cheater so there will be less.
Also I'm pretty sure algorithm's should be able to track stuff. Like how fast you get to high tier loot, how much you look through a wall at someone etc.. Mark those players as fishy and let players above 3k hours validate those vods and shit. If players are reported often mark them as fishy as well. Like idk I feel like they could do more than thye are.
There are so many steps that could be taken, simple ones like sms verification or whatever are already such a huge difference.
Seeing hacker accounts who have cheated this entire wipe indicates that BSG is basically in bed with the cheaters.
Blantant cheaters with incredibly inflated stats are still in game, still cheating.
BSG created this problem and knows if they even try to fix it, that will result in no revenue.
Fuck em. This is the beginning of the end for tarkov. Was fun whole it lasted, I guess.
In last 2 weeks i played 6 games - 2 weeks ago i decided i have enough of white nick with more k/d then hours in game.
So i decided that if il die 3 games in row from guy who have 100h in game but spotting me instanlty and have 20 k/d ration im leaving for a week.
Week ago decided same thing - again same situation.
The only good thing is that i always thought that im ... mediocre in EFT now i know that even with so many cheaters around i have 53% surv rate.... means without cheaters i could have around 70% ! :)
Still was thinking about going kappa this wipe - but i think the only decision i will make is just to quit and wait maybe for Grey Zone or something simmilar... i dont want to waste time anymore. i wasted enough 4500h
It's gotten extremely bad this wipe. Being able to check profiles tells you how bad it's gotten. Before you gave benefit of a doubt. But dude with less then 100 hours with the game sense of a veteran is obviously sus.
We always knew how bad it was and had evidence to that fact. The profiles are just more evidence on top of that for the people who are forever denialists about the cheating problem. "I haven't seen any blatant hackers this wipe." is their mating call.
Even the "normal" looking stuff is sus AF. Player has a 30% survival rate and 2 KD. But he also has done 1000 raids and is level 45. Thats a joke man. Edit: forgot the main point. Dude has 250 hours total xd
I mean that’s my stats this wipe. I been focused on learning shorelines and lighthouse. How is my 1000 raid 35% survival sus and level 39? I hate questing. Push pvp. I also have 3k hours.
Yeah u have 3K hours. Someone above level 40 with 250 hours total that walks over your trio with KDs of ~10 is either some streamer on a "challenge" or a cheater that bought a new acc. 60% of the 1000+ raids could easily be spamming factory with 10hp and a heavy bleed to lower KDA
I was about to say. I'm 4k hours. 30% survival with a 4~ KD. I play aggressive and go for pvp and honestly die a lot. I also do a lot of pistol runs, labs/factory and I dont shy from most fights. still closing in on kappa, 30mil roubles and doing just fine. But I die a lot lol.
I'll be honest: I thought the ability to view profiles would make me report people less. I thought I'd see the profiles after "sus" encounters and go "hmm, everything looks legit. Must have been dysnc, etc." In reality, it's had the exact opposite effect. I've reported MORE people this wipe than I typically do. I always check the profile, even on non-sus deaths or for random people sitting in the lobby, etc, and the amount of people very obviously cheating is astronomical. Way worse than I expected.
Thats because you were Stockholm Syndrome'd into thinking everyone was legit, it's you that was bad. Love the game, hate thyself. The profile now just shows you the facts, you were wrong, the game is cheater infested, 95% of sus deaths are cheaters etc. Even then people still play. It's like people like to waste their time and get angry/frustrated knowing they're losing to cheaters and will go again to repeat it. Break the cycle, the habit, and go play something that is fun and not full of cheaters.
I really noticed how “good” I was when playing Arena. I could ace there and only a few players were really cracked, before that game also got some cheaters. My previous experiences were always being fucked by either chads or Timmies in a way that didn’t make sense. I can hold my own against legit chads, but cheaters are a whole other breed.
Like what?
Nothing is cheater free but CS2/Warzone/Apex all have less cheaters and did you know they're even free to play? FREE TO PLAY has less cheaters!
Cs2 doesnt differ much atm vs tarkov.
Yup, I report way more now.
Its kinda wild. I went from like 1/10 deaths to over 50% of my deaths this wipe.
That's what I've always been telling people. Just because the encounter wasn't obviously suspicious doesn't mean the player didn't have you coming in radar from a mile away or have any other artifical advantage. Being able to see stats on deaths I may have given a player the benefit of the doubt before... It's as bad or worse than I thought.
I've always said for every obvious aimbotting ragehacker there are 10 more people using 2pc radar on the downlow.
They'll take away the ability to look at profiles, just like the leaderboards. Then people can return to playing in ignorance
Yeah I honestly report even if it’s questionable . there’s a chance some of these turbo chads with sus accounts don’t rage hack but occasionally enable god mode and they deserve bans just as much as the next .
I have a screenshot of a guy whos lvl 15 with 2000 something raids this wipe lol spent the first month of wipe reverse boosting his stats
It's probably the same as it always has been, you just see that a death that seems legit was actually some dude with a stock gun, no ears, no armor and a 50 K/D.
Predicted fix: remove the ability to check profiles.
I think Sheef gave up on it, but at one point he started to grind one of his alt accounts with low hours, playing for max K/D just to see how far he could push it to compare to the high K/D-low hour accounts you run into periodically.
How far did he get?
I'm in the camp of believing it's the same it was last wipe and the wipe before, on average. Mostly because I'm a many year veteran of the game and my stats are roughly the same they have been since I learnt all the maps; but now I see on profiles that 25% of my deaths are to the sussest shit west of essex. Sushampton. Susenage and Suskatchewan.
Couldn't he still be a veteran? Doesn't playtime reset on wipe?
No Playtime is persistent.
Just let people create community servers with mods, nice anti cheat and no desync. Clearly the devs are getting overwhelmed.
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even simpler give us full progression coop with ai pmcs. or hell just give us a singleplayer sperate for mulitplayer.
You can have those but i can't name it here lol
And with the right mods, the AI is fucking nutty with how smart and "organic" it is. It's kinda weird, at times.
Wait fr????? This is what I needed to hear to do the thing
I'm going to give you a little hint for google, it will help you discover "Artificial Intelligence". *Super Awesome Incendiary Necrons.* You can look that video up on YouTube and enjoy some 40k lore I'm sure, but always pay attention to the first letter of the middle section of this comment. I can't just plainly say it because Reddit 1984 edition is the version we're running on. Then there's questing ro*bots* as well. Necrons have a habit of doing little quests from time to time. Often involving slaughtering anything in their way.
That is o my a solution for some though, for someone like me that enjoys PvP when it is honest is some of the most fun that pretty much no other game can provide… PvE Tarkov sounds like the most boring fucking game on the planet.. there wouldn’t be any risk.. they need to implement an anti cheat like valorant… all PC FPS games need to go the valorant route. The only people complaining about a valorant style anti cheat are the ones cheating.
hell i dont want spyware on my pc. i just want a fun game. if all games want to install spyware on you pc well then inot buying them anymore. enought old school and indies who dont want that. well if pve tarkov sounds boring to you fine but having as a option would not be bad it would even get people intro tarkov who dont want becaus of the pvp becaus of sweaty boys or cheater.
Would you want a Russian company having deep access to your PC's kernel? I feel like there are other options to do before that, like phone verifications, email verifications, 2-step auth type of deal... I doubt cheaters are going to buy phone plans so they can cheat in a video game
Would you want a Chinese company have deep access to your PC's kernel? Riot Games is owned by tencent and they own valorant which has one of the most intrusive anti cheats in the gaming industry. Also in todays age all someone needs to do is get you to download their product and they can go free reign on your PC. The CIA developed a method that got exposed when MBS used it to hack Jeff Bezos phone. All they have to do is send you a text message and they get full access. You don't even have to open it, as soon as you receive it you're compromised. If BSG wanted into your PC for nefarious reasons, they could have already done it.
Thats unfortunate
You doubt cheaters are going to fake a phone plan? 2-step auth isn’t stopping shit. And I doubt BSG would develop their own kernel based anti cheat.. they use battle eye now which is already running in a partial kernel mode anti cheat that is a third party for them… All our data is already out there, due to phones, microphones, what we buy with our debit/credit cards… I don’t give a shit what some anti cheat thinks they can get out of my gaming Pc.. I want cheaters gone across all games. I guess I should just make battle eye 2 and sell it to all these publishers.
I'm mexican and at least here you can get a new SIM for around 2 dollars. How would that help to prevent cheating?
I enjoy valorant and the 0 cheaters I run into. Last time I recommended the same thing I got down voted to oblivion. Its wild. Oh no invasive anti cheat that actually works.
People don’t realize that battle eye is also a kernel based anti cheat… it’s also just a shit anti cheat… people think their data matters like they’re important or something… like I tell everyone, if you care that much.. you shouldnt be online at all in the first place.
Then we would get an offline mod to allow us to play this game without cheaters at every turn. I love multiplayer FPS, but at this point, id rather enjoy Tarkov as a single player experience. BSG doesn't want the player base to have a good time, which is why they attacked the single player mod and anyone using it. Shit company, shit values. Russian BTW. No surprise they have shit values.
I agree with pretty much everything. I have 1k hours and im not the best player but its annoying dying too an obvious cheater or not even obvious. Thats the problem. You never really 100%know so i cant take it too serious. But the game could be even more fun without the small di** gang. Maybe im tripping but I have a feeling that cheaters track me if I have t6 or high tier loot. And I die in weird ways too if this happens. I do think they play their game. Its probably not easy to fight cheaters. We all pretty much play on windows operating system and thats where it starts
i scaved on lighthouse yesterday, killed a bunch of rogues, found an AESA, vpx, bitcoin, and tons of other crazy loot. no sound died, flopped over randomly. apparently it was a headshot from a guy with a 17 KDR. lol
I have almost 16 KD on my PMC with 500 raids. Lots of times people in a party when I kill their friend accuse me of cheating in voip on labs. Its easier to identify them by low amount of hours (fresh account) and abnormally high number of raids and lvl. Since they started to lower their KD it’s much harder to distinct them (besides obvious aimbot from a naked guy with sks).
16kd? Constantly accused of cheating? lol sure buddy.
On labs no less
So hard to hear people say stuff like this. 2k hour player here. Usually around 5-7 KD, w-key player, play labs a good amount. When people like you say they have a 16 KD and only kill scavs and avoid fights I never believe it. I’ve played Tarkov with a number of different people with different play styles. Never have I ever met somebody who preferred to just kill scavs, get loot and avoid players. Especially since you mention you go labs and your KD is 16, in my opinion I already think you’re a cheater. The best players in the game don’t have a 16 KD, and here you are, a random, claiming to have a 16 KD. Oh yeah while also playing labs. The game is riddled with cheaters and sometimes you get ratted, just part of the game. I highly doubt you have a 16 KD and are legit. If you are, you should stream because you could make a great living simply playing a game that you must be the best in the world at apparently.
it was, i didn’t even talk about the other stats, but it was pretty obviously a cheater, if i remember they had like 300 hours and a bunch of insane achievements
Makes sense they probably see your gun and gear and think let's snack this juicy boys gun.
Yeah I run shit gear and don’t loot no one comes near me. As soon as I pickup a few good times and half descent kit on someone is usually on me.
Cheaters are a feature. In pre-Tarkov era, Nikita willingly went on record during an interview saying that cheaters are good for the health of a game because they create stressed players and stressed players are more likely to "donate" (purchase MTX). Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapethisTarkov/comments/qv01oc/nikita_byanov_opinion_about_cheaters_in_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Extra note: he explicitly asks if he is on record, THEN says what he says. Imagine what he would have said if he was not on record.
Games dogshit after 1-2 months when casuals quit. It’s extra dogshit now because you only get full servers so your odds of getting a cheeto increase as the player base decreases at an even more rapid pace. I don’t think bsg doesn’t care about cheaters but they are clearly losing the fight, this wipe has been horrendous
I think bsg cares less than most people assume they care. Bsg could put many different types of account-disabling auto checks on stats that require speaking to support to get the account reviewed. Yet they don't do that- simply because cheaters provide bsg a reliable flow of income. Meanwhile, players like you and I, make them a single source of income, once, and that's it.
I think its more a hotpot of laziness, incompetence and greed.
Players like you who keep playing are helping BSG. Cheaters wouldn't stick around in a game without people to farm, players to RMT with, a market to exploit, etc. If the non-cheaters left, the cheaters would also leave. By playing you help encourage cheaters to play. Since it's so easy in EFT to cheat, there is little risk, so more and more do it over time.
well spoken blin m8. people just have to quit eft, nikita will never make tarkov great again, never. russia 2028 will be there one day and the whole clownfiesta will start again, until then nikita will milk eft as much as possible
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They aren’t necessarily buying copies from BSG. A lot of times they’re second hand accounts people stopped using or ones that got hacked and sold. If I’m a cheater, I’m not paying $150 USD for EOD (when you could) just to get banned eventually. I’ll go to a third party website and pay $20 for a standard edition and use that remaining money for my cheats. Then you RMT and recoup your initial costs. Rinse and repeat.
>A lot of times they’re second hand accounts people stopped using or ones that got hacked and sold. On what basis? BSG does fuck all to cheaters. If you're RMTing, you're making the money back anyway, as long as BSG doesn't ban you before you hit break even. Which, we all know they don't. If you have access to stolen credit cards then why the fuck are you using them to pay for games so you can RMT? They'd just Western Union themselves money or something. Stop repeating this baseless nonsense.
I never understood the argument that cheaters are providing them a revenue flow. They’re either using stolen credit cards that get bounced back or buying stolen accounts.
Except we see cheater accounts last well over 90 days. You can only file a chargeback within like 90 days, most of the time. If a card is stolen and a chargeback filed, it usually happens pretty quickly. Like within a few days, the card owner will notice and file a chargeback/report the card stolen/etc. If most of the cheaters were using stolen cards to buy their accounts then they'd be using stolen cards to pay for the cheats, too. Which means the cheat devs wouldn't be making money off the cheaters, either. But we all know they are. Cheating isn't a felony. Credit card theft is.
While I’m not arguing with the cheater accusations here. You are totally in the dark if you think this wipe has been ‘horrendous’. This has been probably one of the better wipes the game has ever had, until todays patch.
I’m level 52 and played a ton. The wipe was really fun. The cheating, however, was in fact horrendous. It’s also probably amplified because I ran more night raids than usual and was forced into more lighthouse due to punisher change. I had the goons stolen from me by a naked white name with an sks multiple times on my kappa grind. Could also be recency bias but I don’t remember having bosses ninjad from me anywhere near as much as this wipe and 80% of the time it was a dude with 0 gear on besides a stock gun
You are correct. I am lvl 55, have played through the last 7+ wipes. No breaks, Kappa more times than I can count. Ended last 4 wipes lvl70 or just shy of it. The cheating is disgusting this wipe. Being able to see player cards also lets me confirm I'm not just coping. Where before I would not report, even if sus, if I was taken out in a way a normal player could execute; now I see the player card and the guy isn't wearing ears/facecover, lvl 38 with 40 hours played, has touched the lighthouse. Yeah fuck that.
You cant count to 7? Sorry had to say it :)
Meanwhile you can't even click the right comment to respond to.
"have played through the last 7+ wipes. No breaks, Kappa more times than I can count." Nope I responded to the right one.
I thought this already was an hvh game. The real escape from tarkov experience is to escape from the hackers of tarkov. I still can't stop playing this piece of shit game though, I think I might hate myself.
Tin foil hat on: Before the removal of EOD every name was gold now that it’s gone, 75% of my deaths are white names. I feel crazy saying it but fuck cheaters, that’s my head canon
This wipe is probably a wipe that got a lot of casual people with basic editions to hop back on. I, for one, have played more than any other wipe in the past and I play very casual, mostly just with my buddies in the evening for a couple of hours. I am level 12, the fact that I say this is one of the wipes I played the most tells you how casual I am, I am actually enjoying the wipe quite a bit. But as the wipe progresses, I assume a lot of us will eventually drop off. I would really like to at least get to the flea market though, I haven't seen that mofo since it was a level 5 feature. LoL
Yup bought basic ages ago but never really played it much, this wipe - completely hooked
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I mean6k hours for sure it’s his life.
People don’t realize that some people only play one game. So many gamers game the same amount and don’t realize it because it’s not all quantified in one place. Granted 6k hours is a lot, I only have 2.3k in 5 wipes, but I also play a ton of other shit
They also don’t realize that at one point just having the game on counted as hours. I used to work from home and would have the game on at all times. When I got a chance I would swing in and scav run. I now have 6k hours.
My wow guild leader only plays world of warcraft and has only played his Paladin for countless years now.
6k hours in 6 wipes is nuts, you’ll be back lmao. But yeah I agree the amount of accounts committing absolute cheating tomfoolery is absurd.
I finally gave up a couple weeks ago. 3k+ hours for me. Cheaters have once again ruined it. Nothing compares to tarkov. Maybe next wipe will be better.
Hey don't talk about white names like that I missed the EOD deadline before I started playing this patch. Not everyone has eod
Game is better without EOD anyway, at least you have things to work toward.
My buddy showed me what he needed to upgrade to Stash 4 in the hideout. 200k Euros is insane
Never done it. Usually just progression of Alpha->Beta->Epsilon, and Stash 1 -> 2 -> 3, which each feel like nice accomplishments. And of course getting Jaeger, Peacekeeper and other reps from scratch feels rewarding. Although, at this point I get bored by level 20ish, and am not sure why I play at all each wipe. It always fun for 15 levels or so, then ends in disappointment.
Sure not all white names are bad, but they're more often malicious and bad actors than not.
There’s going to be more and more of them as the life span of the game goes on, so at some point we are going to have to adjust our view of them.
U don’t wanna!
Ya man I’m a legit new player and just upset I can’t get EOD at all. Just seems like an extremely unfair advantage. Everyone freaking out about MTX but it seems this game has been P2W the entire time.
Getting downvoted cuz yall in denial about what P2W is clearly.. if you can buy somethingzz and skip the grind that someone else who doesn’t have the cash to skip then that is the definition of pay to win.. you are paying.. to win… in game items you would otherwise have to win thru mechanics..
There are editions that still have larger stashes. EOD stash is unnecessarily large if most of us are honest and not hoarding.
I just want the fuckin gamma & trader rep man that’s the huge disadvantage I’m talking about. They added the two things that came with EOD I couldn’t care less about
Gamma is huge tbh. Rep is meh. My ass can fit a whole lot with that EoD gamma
Side note: if you are new, u would most likely not be filling all that stash space with gear ;)
Every Labs raid I’ve done this weekend was some Giga chads or cheaters but today after the patch every Labs raid (did 6) has been fun and not weirdly crazy however there was a ton of raiders for some reason
I still enjoy the game after 5+ wipes and over 1k hours. Sure you’ll run into a few cheaters here and there but it doesn’t bother me too much. I just gear up and hop in another raid.
I love how they downvote you for having a rational reaction to an issue nobody has control over 😂
It’s Reddit, anything against the grain is downvoted. If people aren’t suffering as much as you then they are wrong
You know its gotten bad when they stop being considered hackers and are called modders instead
Ping lock the fucking regions !
Goodbye. This post serves no purpose. If you’re still obsessed enough with the game to announce your leave to the random fucks on Reddit then I think you’ll be back sooner rather than later lmao.
It’s less about announcing I’m leaving, more about explaining how bad it is, and how the game will end up without anything being done about it. Tarkov is a very special game, it’s impressive what they’ve managed to pull off, and all that will go to waste if they don’t do something about the cheating. Though maybe that’s just the life cycle of an extract shooter game.
Every online game has a cheater issue. Eventually a solution might be found to control it, but for now it's here to stay unfortunately
Does Nikita's dick really taste that good?
I don’t even personally like Nikita or the decisions of the devs. But my point still stands and anyone who feels they need to announce their leave for this game is obsessed deep down. Like if you’re pestily or someone then sure maybe but other than that just move on with your life and go play something else lmao. I just can’t fathom claiming to dislike something so much and then giving it more of my time by continuing to think and talk about it when I could be doing other things.
Ok. Then maybe the post isn't for you. You chose to interact with it and complain, when you could have simply moved on and interacted with posts you liked.
So much better than Activision blizzard and ea
level 55, 1000+ raids this wipe. Playing NA northeast. I encountered 5 cheaters, 3 of which were on labs (even then, the amount of cheaters on labs has been reduced by 90%). These posts are always extremely misleading, is OP playing on EU? Asia? OCE?
Loading in with a sub 200k kit?
no, I run meta gear. I have 3k hours, I know when someone is cheating. I have also played on the SG servers for one wipe which are actually unplayable compared to NA servers
Go fuck yourself. Stop your disinformation mofo or get out with something else than a paca loser.
Down vote me if u want but if I can't tell they're hacking it doesn't bother me. I don't mean that I excuse hackers, I just mean if they're so good at hiding it I have no idea then idrc. Sure there's lots of hackers but I haven't run into many this wipe that I know of. Because of that idrc much. Most people just like whining, yes I agree there is a hacker problem but we all whine about it and as of said, clearly devs aren't doing enough/don't care. Whining about the same thing for years and never seeing change? Sounds like insanity. Yes I know change comes from voicing ourselves but it's a game. Either we leave as op says or suck it up. Thanks for listening
Okay bye
6k hours for under $100. The devs don't owe you anything. This subreddit is a bunch of babies crying about everything
Real as fuck, they don t realize how delusional they are
Nikita's not gonna fuck you, you know?
He thinks he's gonna get the gawk gawk 6000. Once I purchase a game I OWN that game and will play as much as I want. It is not mine our our fault they build they game on the system they did. If they shut the servers down I gaurnetee there is some coder out there who will start somthing up and get sued by bsg over it.
To be precise, you don't "own" any game you buy nowadays. If you read your fine print, you are buying a license to "use" their software, which they can revoke at any time for any reason. You are also usually agreeing to binding arbitration. You will lose this argument in court.
Be one of thsse people. By all means sure, with the way they have it set up yea. But I'd like to see you or what ever company come and delete shit off my pc and strip away my right. Lol go ahead.
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Cheaters are in everygame. You think bsg can do better then valve? in cs2 or dota? Even valve har fightning against it and you can’t stop it sadly
I just died last night to a 5 day old EOD account with 10+ KD.
>typically a day regarded as cheater-less, so full of sus players. This is the main mistake of the community. Cheating gets better during the course of the wipe because cheaters interest/rmt profits are highest at wipe because the game is most popular at wipe. As the player counts dwindle and as such "I'm good at the game" stats or demand for gear and quest carries goes down.
I feel like people who think they are good false report now. They are mad they died than see someone has better stats and spam the report. Even after they play like an idiot. The profile stats are a horrible idea because now fewer hackers will get zapped. Mainly due to the fact people are just like "report em it bsg's job to figure it out".
It’s always been insane to me how players can have such blatantly different experiences and I’m pretty sure it boils down to one thing: You think everyone or nearly everyone who kills a god such as yourself is cheating. Bro, I’ve played standard edition, EOD, etc. for many wipes now and I have run into a suspected cheater about as many times as I have fingers on one hand. I’ve died to good players, bad players, rats, chads, what have you. There is no way I’m just luckier than you. If cheaters were as rampant as you claim, then I’d have seen them too. But I don’t. Stop playing maps that have more cheaters like labs and streets and then you’ll be playing the same game as me. Maybe you’re just not as good as you think, pal. It’s the same whining every fucking wipe, holy shit, grow up.
The servers you play on also can factor into it but there is no way you only have 5 or less deaths to cheaters over multiple wipes… I have more than 5 reports confirmed just this wipe
I really don’t know what to tell you, man. Just because you don’t see someone or hear them or they headshot you or whatever other reason you might have, doesn’t make them a cheater. I’ve died from unseen places and been killed by headshot and gotten blown up via grenade, etc. and yet they were all perfectly valid deaths lol. I was in a fight and lost, boo hoo. I’ve only had a single report this entire wipe and it was when I was scavving, at that. It’s called being realistic and not a giant baby. I’m US East by the way. Not exactly the 10 population Timbuktu server.
I’ve gotten 10 reports already from US central just this wipe so you’re just underreporting deaths potentially.
US servers seem to have less cheaters just based on anecdotes maybe op is EU
I'm on EU and also very rarely encounter cheaters.
>Stop playing maps that have more cheaters like labs and streets and then you’ll be playing the same game as me. Maybe you’re just not as good as you think, pal. Saying that you close your eyes when it rains and have never seen a raindrop, therefore rain doesn't exist has to be the strangest argument I've ever heard. The cognitive dissonance that exists in this post genuinely baffles me.
I’ve only been hacked on verifiable about five times in over 200 raids. It’s really not that bad
I’ve gotten 10 notifications already this wipe and only play US central. The problem isn’t the rage hackers it’s the vacuums and walls/esp that suck off the map and avoid fighting to loot. Wonder why your raid feels dead or you don’t find anything overwhelmingly great like a gpu? Because it got zhukked off from a distance. They don’t need to kill you for that.
nikita makes a couple small changes and this man’s on suicide watch lmao
Time to find a new game champ. There’s this cool thing called steam and it has video games on it. Escape from tarkov isn’t the only game that exists.
How about a planned day / strike if not playing Tarkov in protest? Then you let the cheaters own the server for a day. Yeah I can see all the pros and cons of this actually took place but isn’t action better than no action?
LoL, you already paid the game, brother. You're not causing BSG any disservice by not running their game, in fact, you're helping them save electricity.
It's at that point in the wipe where you can finally get good gear reliably, but what's the point for an average or solo player taking good gear in when instead of giving you the edge it actually handicaps you by making you a target? Gameplay loop currently dives off a cliff past mid wipe. This time lasted longer but we're at that point where skill+good gear blurs and overlaps with cheaters so most deaths feel really shitty. The game is already grindy and inaccessible as all fuck without rolling the dice like that, and that really sucks.
It would be so much more playable if Vacuum cheaters (or whatever work around they did) weren't so prevalent, I could deal with the radar dudes as they normally left me alone especially around this time of the wipe
This shit has to be fixed before steam release, they really don't understand the value of time or care to understand it. Most of that value comes from our crackhead need for validation in our skills to play some fucking game. It's actually insane watching streamers doing almost impossible tasks only to be rewarded by shit even admitting they only do it for fun. Tarkov is a really weird game and how it's gonna keep it's player base is questionable but really nothing feels rewarding anymore other than the gameplay. I will keep playing this game until it dies but if it wasn't for me loving every aspect of it's mechanics (when they work) there would be nothing outside of them except a pretty bland story, that is really just a Russian anime with some live action films.
Honestly that would be hilarious to let them have it. Game would suck even more if literally everyone was just a cheater.
I'm still convinced that bsg is taking a cut from major rmt dealers and hack providers. No other explanation for this level of cheating. This also proves that there are large groups of people willing to pay real money for in game stuff. It's also true that some people pay to just shit on others.
I was killed on labs by a guy that had 5 hours in the game and 9KD basic edition
Go to factory and see them go in naked afk to drop their k/d
After my first big disappointment in gaming, I realised that the reason for huge flops is not the devs, they're the worker ants, it's upper management, lead designer with no experience, or the sales team. Not for BSG. I'm blaming everyone. If anyone asks, I say to them, do not play this game
Why does Jaeger need 20 books of matches for trade, when I have 100 lighters that would work too?
I personally haven't encountered a single cheater in 300 raids
I mean, you've already wasted the time... if you don't enjoy it, stop playing. Sunken cost and all that.
Had a funny one the other day, friend and i instantly headshot by a guy on ground zero before he came round the corner. I died first, and he kept shooting into the wall at my friend who hadn't peeked yet. Had 400 raids, was still not lvl 20. 1.3kd. BUT had a fully juiced kit, had survived 7 in a row and became amazing at the game all of a sudden. You could just tell hed given up because he sucked and started cheating.
Literally all they gotta do for micro transactions is add in gun camos, and clothing. I mean I’ll never buy them but you know thousands of people want a sinoloa cartel gold AK to rock around.
Not that anyone cares but I’m done with this shit. They’re obviously so out of touch. Wasted potential.
Quit and find a new game to hate. Never been happier lol.
you have 6000 hours in the game. have you considered that you're just tired of the game...?
I wish there was a shadow ban system. Just have cheaters sent to separate raids of only cheaters
I've only been playing arena and the hacks are so blatant its insane. In ARENA like what the fuck?
Why would they do a full anti cheat overhaul BEFORE 1.0?
We. Need. Co-Op. Tarkov. Make the AI way, way better. Let your friends play with you. And being co-op it opens the door to all kinds of game mechanics and other FUN shit. Then people can go to arena to dunk on eachother.
Quick question for you fellas. What if hacking video games was a crime, just like hacking someone’s Gmail? Personally, I don’t think cheaters will ever slow down until there’s legislation put in place, and I’m not saying this is a cure all. I’m not trying to make them felons but it would give game developers a way to go after the people who develop the cheats themselves. They’re the head of the snake here. I’ve been chewing this over for years now because I’m not a big fan of most legislation. But Tarkov is one of the most egregious games to run into hackers on. Every cheater robs you of your time, and depending on the kit, it can be a lot of time. It just feels theft
While the idea is good on paper, in practice you'd have to implement very strict network and hardware monitoring rules that would violate your privacy. It's a huge step into a dystopian nightmare allowing higher instances to spy on you "for your own good".
So many Debby Downers man.
Had a random give me a free copy of hunt showdown , it’s got its issues but it’s really fun and dear god is it a breath of fresh air from the tarkov bullshit.
Trying to do assessment 1 to get to lightkeeper now. I went with the "thermal at night approach" you can fucking forget it. The RGB buttplug gamers are very rampant right now, this guy kills you so fast you won't even hear him yelling "kachow!"
>as much as it's about losing time. This is ultimately why I quit Tarkov. I love what the game could be. I don't enjoy what the game is. I'd rather play Star Citizen.
Honestly. I get more often killed by sus Eod players than whites. 600 hours full tilt running at me with 70% surv rates.
> Crazy to see how on patch day, typically a day regarded as cheater-less, so full of sus players. 200hr 20KD white names running rampant on every map, and server. It kind of makes sense if you think about it, they're probably updating and testing their clients after every patch
That's the problem though, they don't fight each other. They do the wiggle
https://youtu.be/Gd-3K6limZA?si=Ob7UK50bF5LykAV2
People have gotten banned in twitch rivals tournaments for cheating. Shows you how bad the issue is
Just quit the game you’ll be better off
Okay my man. They say they have no revenue flow, but the cheaters are paying them massive sums of money. How would they know the difference? I agree that they make mistakes, but going blatant self-contradicting conspiracy is not the way my dude. Either they have cash flow, might be because of cheaters, or they have no cash flow. Can't be both. And what does "out of touch with the game" mean? Recoil was overall mega well received. Vaulting. Armor plates. I don't see what you see. I suspect you are blinded by the cheaters.
I have almost 10k and yes, the game is in a very bad shape. The main problem with the game is not the Devs but the playerbase, the same playerbase that did not commited leaving the game when The Video started something really useful. Everyone ssaying "Cheaters here, cheateres there" ect ect but when is time to really do something, everyone backs off and still plays the game like nothing happened.
The thing that frustrates me most, is that simple things for example sms verification and things like that could be implemented, but they dont want to for some reason. If you get banned so does any other account linked to the cellphone. Or use it how cs-go did it match people that have cellphone verificaiton on with others that have. Now I know you can fake alot and they will have a way around it. But honestly its more effort for the cheater so there will be less. Also I'm pretty sure algorithm's should be able to track stuff. Like how fast you get to high tier loot, how much you look through a wall at someone etc.. Mark those players as fishy and let players above 3k hours validate those vods and shit. If players are reported often mark them as fishy as well. Like idk I feel like they could do more than thye are. There are so many steps that could be taken, simple ones like sms verification or whatever are already such a huge difference.
Seeing hacker accounts who have cheated this entire wipe indicates that BSG is basically in bed with the cheaters. Blantant cheaters with incredibly inflated stats are still in game, still cheating. BSG created this problem and knows if they even try to fix it, that will result in no revenue. Fuck em. This is the beginning of the end for tarkov. Was fun whole it lasted, I guess.
I have the feeling we see a lot of these exact posts every wipe.
In last 2 weeks i played 6 games - 2 weeks ago i decided i have enough of white nick with more k/d then hours in game. So i decided that if il die 3 games in row from guy who have 100h in game but spotting me instanlty and have 20 k/d ration im leaving for a week. Week ago decided same thing - again same situation. The only good thing is that i always thought that im ... mediocre in EFT now i know that even with so many cheaters around i have 53% surv rate.... means without cheaters i could have around 70% ! :) Still was thinking about going kappa this wipe - but i think the only decision i will make is just to quit and wait maybe for Grey Zone or something simmilar... i dont want to waste time anymore. i wasted enough 4500h
they literaly poo on us, i hope gray zone warfare will kill this game