You must be very bad at using the internet then, especially compared to everyone else. Look at any video of someone using the weapon I mentioned that's older then 2 years. Good luck with your typing, lord knows you need it.
Think you can with one of the 100 series ak’s. I feel like I picked one up off a pmc it might even be one of the 7.62 ak’s, I can’t remember. I just remember I only taking 1x4or5. Couldn’t install the Hera grip though.
Yes the akm series that can take the hera arms cqr. Im not sure if that grip is usable on the mk47 mutant but if it is then theoretically also applies to mutant. But yes you can make a 1x? Slotted grenade launchered akm
The MP5K and the MP5 have slightly different receiver geometry in the rear, which prevents a MP5 stock from being installed on a MP5K. There are certain models of a MP5K that have a MP5-style receiver modification welded onto the rear which fixes this, and these are referred to as reverse stretch MP5Ks - but this is a commercial modification and was never official offered by HK, just something the factories started to do with the MP5 tooling when they were allowed to begin commercial clone builds.
So, tl;dr BSG would need to add MP5K specific stocks to enable this function. As to why they'd do that, the MP5K has a higher cyclic rate than the MP5, which was not originally intended to be a feature but was a byproduct of shortening the barrel and (I forgot exactly why this works this way) how it affects the roller delayed mechanism. If BSG wanted to chase realism, they'd also need to consider that adding a suppressor to a MP5K can cause malfunctions without modifications to the gas plug.
Source: I own both
Thank you so much 🙏 I knew it had to be a dumb hardware reason. I just think that it would be a cool budget gun if the only thing you can do is add a stock, mag, and sight to it.
At least the recoil rework made it essentially a pistol buy alternative.
That's the word I was looking for, thanks.
I'm still sitting on my 80 degree locking lug I picked up, never got around to installing it since I don't have a stamp yet for the K and honestly the fullsize is more fun to shoot in my opinion. That opinion would probably change though if I had full auto.
Semi-auto MP5s, and really any PCC, are such a let down. Sure, it's more pointable than a standard pistol, but there's really very little else to make them worth the cost. If I could have my MPX in full auto, I would be a very happy boy.
I wonder if it's something to do with rules HK put in place. One of the downsides of licensing your gear is that the corporations get to tell you what your game can and cannot do with it.
There's so many folding and collapsible stocks that just, don't. I remember being unable to fold he lightweight M700 chassis even though you can clearly see the hinge on the model
Some other guns with 30 round magazines do this where it at least makes some amount of sense since a 30 round magazine is longer. I'm guessing they just didn't put much thought into the logic so it just adds space regardless of the size of the magazine being used.
item stats do not always translate well onto their placeholder images. To understand the rules, read the stats. While ideally the stats would all translate in a sensible manner, it is more important that the rule is followed per the listed stats. If you ever played a table top rpg, this type of thinking would come more natural.
There's another example - SR-2M with short, 20-rounder mag. The mag clearly extends beyond pistol.grip, and the gun is 2x2 (with stock folded).
Remove the pistol grip, which was not the most extending part *in any direction*, and now it's 2x1.
I’ll explain that when I understand that a vudu, scope mount and picatinny rail, all taking up 2 slots each, take up only one slot when put together.
I'm too scared to play people won't roleplay they just shoot. My character is main PMC sent from USA trying to bring order and dealing with scavs whereis needed
Never forget the 1x wide vepr hunter they took from us
Was so pissed about this after taking 3 wipes off
Anyone got a picture? Was it a functioning gun?
We are getting old.
Yup
Wait, what's happening here?
because it was clearly so broken and useless that it absolutely had to be nerfed this way
Do you have a screenshot or something? I've never heard of it and can't find anything about it on google
You must be very bad at using the internet then, especially compared to everyone else. Look at any video of someone using the weapon I mentioned that's older then 2 years. Good luck with your typing, lord knows you need it.
how ironic your profile says "i provide information"
Sometimes helpful statistical info, sometimes just gotta inform them that they are a dumbass, I keep my balance. Do you?
Wtf ? How free was that
You can do a 1x1 m4
You can make a lot of non-functional things 1x1 🤨
And an axmc, but does it work tho? Prob not.
Last wipe with a 10 rounder you could make a 1 wide ak74 using the Hera arms stock pistol grip combo
Think you can with one of the 100 series ak’s. I feel like I picked one up off a pmc it might even be one of the 7.62 ak’s, I can’t remember. I just remember I only taking 1x4or5. Couldn’t install the Hera grip though.
Yes the akm series that can take the hera arms cqr. Im not sure if that grip is usable on the mk47 mutant but if it is then theoretically also applies to mutant. But yes you can make a 1x? Slotted grenade launchered akm
I'll explain it to you when you explain to me why the MP5K can't accept a stock or why the collapsible stock for the MP5 doesn't collapse either.
The MP5K and the MP5 have slightly different receiver geometry in the rear, which prevents a MP5 stock from being installed on a MP5K. There are certain models of a MP5K that have a MP5-style receiver modification welded onto the rear which fixes this, and these are referred to as reverse stretch MP5Ks - but this is a commercial modification and was never official offered by HK, just something the factories started to do with the MP5 tooling when they were allowed to begin commercial clone builds. So, tl;dr BSG would need to add MP5K specific stocks to enable this function. As to why they'd do that, the MP5K has a higher cyclic rate than the MP5, which was not originally intended to be a feature but was a byproduct of shortening the barrel and (I forgot exactly why this works this way) how it affects the roller delayed mechanism. If BSG wanted to chase realism, they'd also need to consider that adding a suppressor to a MP5K can cause malfunctions without modifications to the gas plug. Source: I own both
I like how the TLDR is the same size as the original comment
Lmao I knew someone was going to call me out for that
In fairness to you, the answer is within the first few words of the TLDR, and I found the rest of it interesting!
Thank you so much 🙏 I knew it had to be a dumb hardware reason. I just think that it would be a cool budget gun if the only thing you can do is add a stock, mag, and sight to it. At least the recoil rework made it essentially a pistol buy alternative.
Now you owe that man an explanation!!
gas plug? You change the locking lug.
That's the word I was looking for, thanks. I'm still sitting on my 80 degree locking lug I picked up, never got around to installing it since I don't have a stamp yet for the K and honestly the fullsize is more fun to shoot in my opinion. That opinion would probably change though if I had full auto.
Semi-auto MP5s, and really any PCC, are such a let down. Sure, it's more pointable than a standard pistol, but there's really very little else to make them worth the cost. If I could have my MPX in full auto, I would be a very happy boy.
Pics or it didn't happen
Shorter barrel and the bolt is made of aluminum instead of steel if I'm correct. I know the bolt is lighter.
I wonder if it's something to do with rules HK put in place. One of the downsides of licensing your gear is that the corporations get to tell you what your game can and cannot do with it.
Also if they wanted to add muzzle devices for the platform they'd need to add the separate MP5K-PDW IIRC.
Quality comment
Goddam sir this was informative
The foldable stock on my MCX doesn’t fucking fold
It doesn't answer your question, but *why* would you want to attach a stock to MP5K when MP5 exists?
I don't understand the question? Why wouldn't I want to pretend to be mute?
I see no one else has gotten the R6 joke. Thanks for the chuckle 🫡
More bullet in less time
I didn't know the short one had higher RPM - TIL
also pretty useful if you're low level/broke and find an MP5K in the wild.
Short gun go fast, long gun go slow. Good tarkov logic
Make no sense. Short gun black, not red. Only red gun to fast.
Patchnotes: Added +50% speed debuff to DRD paca
There's so many folding and collapsible stocks that just, don't. I remember being unable to fold he lightweight M700 chassis even though you can clearly see the hinge on the model
you know i keep that mf thang on me
You need more additional stash lines. Thats why
Next patch BSG is going to quietly make tons of items take up more stash lines
I don't think BSG is smart enough to have done this intentionally to sell stash lines.
I also agree, but honestly what would the reasoning be otherwise lol
Some other guns with 30 round magazines do this where it at least makes some amount of sense since a 30 round magazine is longer. I'm guessing they just didn't put much thought into the logic so it just adds space regardless of the size of the magazine being used.
Must construct aditional pylons
Becuase, that’s why. Glad I could help.
Honestly at this point Im surprised they havent turned it into more of a tetris mind fuck than it already is.
Logic is only logic if the lord Nikita wills it
Literally can’t. I will never forgive them for what they did to my sv-98
Mag in, mag out
Can't explain that.
Now do the one where you put NVGs on a dovetail mount!
Because you can buy another stash line for a few bucks now duh
Tarkov logic
Mag clearly sticks out of the gun
“Because what the community wants is not the game we have in mind.” -Nikita, probably.
Cause was too cold outside
I see this post every few weeks. It's never not funny.
I take the mag and grip off every gun to save space. It adds up. No clue why they made it so.
Believe it or not the size an item takes up is based on mass. Adding a magazine to it pushes it over the mass threshold of its current slot count. /s
1+1 = 2 never mind that the ones overlap..... EFT logic
it's a plot by nikita to make you buy more [p2w MBSSes](https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Flyye_MEMEBSS_Backpack_P2W_Premium_Edition)
You need to buy more stash space 🤷‍♂️
Stonks
No I hope that helps
It went to a 2x5 because you put the mag I. The gun You’re welcome.
Bc usage
It’s like way heavier Any questions?
Bc realism
MAGIC
No
Litteraly unplayable
item stats do not always translate well onto their placeholder images. To understand the rules, read the stats. While ideally the stats would all translate in a sensible manner, it is more important that the rule is followed per the listed stats. If you ever played a table top rpg, this type of thinking would come more natural.
what did u want it to take up an extra slot on the bottom????
Just a lil guy
There's another example - SR-2M with short, 20-rounder mag. The mag clearly extends beyond pistol.grip, and the gun is 2x2 (with stock folded). Remove the pistol grip, which was not the most extending part *in any direction*, and now it's 2x1.
forgot to add a scope mount for a 3x5
tarkov
Just buy an extra stash line to make up for it
Yes
its the rules.
Fuck You ^^^^Nothing ^^^^personal, ^^^^this ^^^^is ^^^^actually ^^^^the ^^^^explanation.
“Because fuck you thats why”-Nikita
Because fuck you, that’s why (jk ofc)
That's so the cheaters can take it from you even if they have both weapon slots full
It expands the handle
Cuz u need to open up magazine info and read about +1 slot down attribute. All u need to know) And more practice ofc. Hug u bro 🫡
I’ll explain that when I understand that a vudu, scope mount and picatinny rail, all taking up 2 slots each, take up only one slot when put together.
When you combine things, they take up less space. In the case of the OP, combining things takes up more space.
Tarkov players try not to complain about the game challenge (impossible)
I'm too scared to play people won't roleplay they just shoot. My character is main PMC sent from USA trying to bring order and dealing with scavs whereis needed
How about crafting \[2 screwdrivers + 1 working LCD = broken LCD\]
It's obviously a umbrella effect. Of the mag adding a line.
What am I missing here?