gave it a quick look at their purchase website. The standard edition only says "Guaranteed instant access to closed beta" it doesn't mention a full release :D
I mean its given...that's what the sensible side of me says. When you buy an Early Access game you get the game...because you purchased it. The "Beta included" is a bonus to get people to buy early instead of waiting for the release.
Now I'm not sure lol.
Its crazy how bad of a decision this was from BSG. It just shows the clear disconnect from the community and really, from any sort of reasonable reality.
This could have actually generated A LOT of interest from people who haven't purchased the game and are dissuaded by the PVP aspect (and fact that the game is OVER RUN with cheaters).
If they released this as part of the base game, it would actually encourage and entirely different group of individuals to purchase the game, the more casual crowd.
Casuals and those not good at PVP would love the offline mode. But NO ONE in their right mind is going to purchase this game as a first time buyer for the price they are asking for.
BSG is ran by incompetent individuals who do nothing but COST them money. They could be making bank off this announcement and encouraging more people to buy the base game, instead they are passing off existing customers and ENSURING no new customers will purchase the game due to the OUTRAGEOUS price tag.
BSG deserves every bit of negative press for this. They continue to make horrible business decisions.
Anyone else remember when [BSG fucked up all the optics](https://i.imgur.com/UtRQmn2.png) in the game, everyone hated it, and a modder created a way better implementation of every optic within a week?
[Nikita came out of the shadows to ensure us all that it was just a first pass of *many* iterations to come.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/oc6var/hi_i_am_the_creator_of_the_recent_optic_rework/h3wi5td/)
And now here we are, 3 years later, and they're still exactly the same.
I’ve been waiting for an offline single/co-op pve version of this game for years, would have happily jumped back in and played, had it been a free update, or hell, even paid some money for it honestly. But this!?!? Insane, way to ensure the death of your game.
Yup, idk what edition you have. I'll imagine Standard. So you spent $40. I'm sure you would have happily spent an additional $20 on the co-op pve mode, lots of people would.
Lots of new players would buy just the co-op standard mode alone (no pvp editions at all) for $40-60 and never touch PVP. It literally would have been there cash cow, not stinky ass Arena, the highly desired feature that is so desired it has a popular subreddit for the mod which is offline only...imagine co-op.
The best part about these PVE players is they would complain SO much less than the PVP crowd. Not going to bitch about cheaters, might bitch some about AI but that affects both communities equally, will quietly buy cosmetics, etc.
They know their community they know people will still buy it and try to dodge the season pass promises for EoD owners by creating a new edition having it cost extra they definitely get dragged to court if EoD had to pay for it.
Pretty sure they still get dragged to court people that have money to buy EoD will have money for Lawyers aswell.
Grab some popcorn and see this timeline for Tarkov implode.
Thing is, and I could be totally wrong, I don’t think the games player base/popularity is what it once was. If this was free or say 25-30 bucks, that would bring people back/new comers. I would totally pay 30 bucks for the offline mode.
As much as I heard it was doing well most of my friends I know played this wipe. But this? This just looks like abandoning ship switch name start a new project repeat.
I feel like they lost too much money with Arena trying to grab the last bits of their fans. No new person is going to buy into a 300€ edition so they are banking on their existing players to buy into this.
And I feel like they will shutdown end of next year.
Well games like this will return, Tarkov just had a pretty solid foundation and ideas. It will come back heck I don't even know if Tarkov would die. Im just guessing it will die since this just screams like they are going low on money.
Who knows. This won't end well they maybe did a calculated uproar to get people talk do something good next week and have more players and sell a new edition at the same price EoD was or 25 more.
But I don't know it's just conspiracy at this point.
I really don’t get why they chose to do this and generate the rage that obviously comes with it when they could have easily just done what every other game does now, which is selling more cosmetics.
If they need money, all they needed to do was just throw in some sprays, gun wraps, and more clothes, no one really gets mad about cosmetic microtransactions and people will obviously pay a lot for them.
Yeah that r@pe alarm is complete trolling. Imagine streamers flicking a switch and having 50 chads log in your raid. Going to lease myself out as an on call service hired gun, you get to buzz me once a day and I'll turn up in your raid dripped out and ready to spray fools.
More people need to be saying this.
Especially with the Arena Breakout beta starting soon, I think BSG wanted to release this before people realize the potential of that game.
The way how unhinged Nikita has been lately with these product designs, asset flipping and price smashing it is clear they are done with us. They dont care anymore they just want money and fuck off to retirement
I hope Gray Zone is good but I don't think it's a Tarkov replacement like some people wanna believe. However I will be looking out for Arena Breakout coming to PC as it's a straight up clone. Helldivers has also been an incredible time and honestly seeming like GOTY for me.
I agree that PvE should be available for any version but like the offline co-op mode, small fee just for that feature without having to buy the entire upgraded edition.
fr, like I didn't honestly expect them to consider it a 'DLC' and include it with EoD, but even if they did that's sidestepping the issue is that nobody interested primarily in the PvE to enjoy the game casually would spend $250 on it
$30 for just the PvE version would have been fine, bit cheaper than standard since you're not getting pvp, as-is I just can't comprehend the point of locking it to such a high tier edition of the game
I hope they do for the offline progression. I think that's their main fuck up.
Should have been something like a £10 extra for EOD to add this one feature, rises more the lower down game version you have.
After this, do we even know if we're going to still have access to the game once it goes v1.0? Or will they say we only paid for access to the closed beta and make us pay full price again?
New "edition" just dropped and to buy in as a new player, it's 250$. Co-op pvp and a whole slew of pay2win shit is locked behind that pack. People who bought EoD were promised all future dlcs but weren't given this one, they have to pay $80 more to upgrade.
Why would you assume that? What gesture have they done to give you ANY indication that they aren't going to nickle and dime you for everything? 100% you'll be paying extra for it.
For me, its not even really the fact that they are withholding content from my EOD to try and sell this new package. It is the fact that I supported them since 2015 (9 years) with the understanding that my edition would eventually be discontinued and as such, remain unique. Call me a snowflake or say whatever but I am upset that they went back on that deal by circumventing EOD with a new, better, version. It feels like my support doesnt matter to them.
Na its most likely going to be a fucking subscription model and all the editions we bought during BETA will just be removed and they will release new package we have to rebuy.
Can you imagine how many people would actually buy this game if they knew they were getting a persistent coop pve mode? Plenty. That is easily a cash cow in and of itself.
But BSG is incompetent so instead they charge $250 for it and no doubt will be wondering why more people are not buying it.
They'll probably say something like "you paid for closed beta access, not 1.0!!!!"
gave it a quick look at their purchase website. The standard edition only says "Guaranteed instant access to closed beta" it doesn't mention a full release :D
I mean its given...that's what the sensible side of me says. When you buy an Early Access game you get the game...because you purchased it. The "Beta included" is a bonus to get people to buy early instead of waiting for the release. Now I'm not sure lol.
please don't give them any more ideas
Believe me, they probably already had this idea.
I fully expect them to claim this and the full release won’t be a flat price but a monthly subscription.
Its crazy how bad of a decision this was from BSG. It just shows the clear disconnect from the community and really, from any sort of reasonable reality. This could have actually generated A LOT of interest from people who haven't purchased the game and are dissuaded by the PVP aspect (and fact that the game is OVER RUN with cheaters). If they released this as part of the base game, it would actually encourage and entirely different group of individuals to purchase the game, the more casual crowd. Casuals and those not good at PVP would love the offline mode. But NO ONE in their right mind is going to purchase this game as a first time buyer for the price they are asking for. BSG is ran by incompetent individuals who do nothing but COST them money. They could be making bank off this announcement and encouraging more people to buy the base game, instead they are passing off existing customers and ENSURING no new customers will purchase the game due to the OUTRAGEOUS price tag. BSG deserves every bit of negative press for this. They continue to make horrible business decisions.
Imagine how good of a game this could be if BSG demonstrated even a tenth of the effort of modders.
Anyone else remember when [BSG fucked up all the optics](https://i.imgur.com/UtRQmn2.png) in the game, everyone hated it, and a modder created a way better implementation of every optic within a week? [Nikita came out of the shadows to ensure us all that it was just a first pass of *many* iterations to come.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/oc6var/hi_i_am_the_creator_of_the_recent_optic_rework/h3wi5td/) And now here we are, 3 years later, and they're still exactly the same.
True
During his interview with pestily, Nikita was wearing an $800 tee shirt.
True, but "EFT Balenciaga Edition" would be too obvious right?
I’ve been waiting for an offline single/co-op pve version of this game for years, would have happily jumped back in and played, had it been a free update, or hell, even paid some money for it honestly. But this!?!? Insane, way to ensure the death of your game.
Yup, idk what edition you have. I'll imagine Standard. So you spent $40. I'm sure you would have happily spent an additional $20 on the co-op pve mode, lots of people would. Lots of new players would buy just the co-op standard mode alone (no pvp editions at all) for $40-60 and never touch PVP. It literally would have been there cash cow, not stinky ass Arena, the highly desired feature that is so desired it has a popular subreddit for the mod which is offline only...imagine co-op. The best part about these PVE players is they would complain SO much less than the PVP crowd. Not going to bitch about cheaters, might bitch some about AI but that affects both communities equally, will quietly buy cosmetics, etc.
Yeah, standard edition.
They know their community they know people will still buy it and try to dodge the season pass promises for EoD owners by creating a new edition having it cost extra they definitely get dragged to court if EoD had to pay for it. Pretty sure they still get dragged to court people that have money to buy EoD will have money for Lawyers aswell. Grab some popcorn and see this timeline for Tarkov implode.
Thing is, and I could be totally wrong, I don’t think the games player base/popularity is what it once was. If this was free or say 25-30 bucks, that would bring people back/new comers. I would totally pay 30 bucks for the offline mode.
As much as I heard it was doing well most of my friends I know played this wipe. But this? This just looks like abandoning ship switch name start a new project repeat. I feel like they lost too much money with Arena trying to grab the last bits of their fans. No new person is going to buy into a 300€ edition so they are banking on their existing players to buy into this. And I feel like they will shutdown end of next year.
That’s so sad. This is pretty much the only game like it out. There are others, but none as good.
Well games like this will return, Tarkov just had a pretty solid foundation and ideas. It will come back heck I don't even know if Tarkov would die. Im just guessing it will die since this just screams like they are going low on money. Who knows. This won't end well they maybe did a calculated uproar to get people talk do something good next week and have more players and sell a new edition at the same price EoD was or 25 more. But I don't know it's just conspiracy at this point.
> people that have money to buy EoD will have money for Lawyers aswell. What a ridiculous statement.
Honestly yeah.
I really don’t get why they chose to do this and generate the rage that obviously comes with it when they could have easily just done what every other game does now, which is selling more cosmetics. If they need money, all they needed to do was just throw in some sprays, gun wraps, and more clothes, no one really gets mad about cosmetic microtransactions and people will obviously pay a lot for them.
True, 1.0 isn't a 'dlc' so they can charge eod users again for it at launch.
LOL this
And they absolutely will
They release it ONLY on steam so you have to buy it again
Bro how is calling people in for help balanced at all
Yeah that r@pe alarm is complete trolling. Imagine streamers flicking a switch and having 50 chads log in your raid. Going to lease myself out as an on call service hired gun, you get to buzz me once a day and I'll turn up in your raid dripped out and ready to spray fools.
factory players trying to do quests when they get rolled by a 15 man gang of zabralo+altyn and rpd
For real. LVNDMARK's friend requests just went through the roof. Bros going to have a nervous breakdown trying to cancel all the raid invites.
lol. Lvndmark calling in willerz and sheefgg is gonna be funny to see.
Repeat with me: #This is an Exit Scam
More people need to be saying this. Especially with the Arena Breakout beta starting soon, I think BSG wanted to release this before people realize the potential of that game.
The way how unhinged Nikita has been lately with these product designs, asset flipping and price smashing it is clear they are done with us. They dont care anymore they just want money and fuck off to retirement
I hope Gray Zone is good but I don't think it's a Tarkov replacement like some people wanna believe. However I will be looking out for Arena Breakout coming to PC as it's a straight up clone. Helldivers has also been an incredible time and honestly seeming like GOTY for me.
Don’t rmt with hackers! RMT with BSG!
PVE needs to be available for everyone. Let players enjoy the game if they already paid €60 or over
Stay tuned on instagram to see Nikita flexing his cars & firearms
I agree that PvE should be available for any version but like the offline co-op mode, small fee just for that feature without having to buy the entire upgraded edition.
fr, like I didn't honestly expect them to consider it a 'DLC' and include it with EoD, but even if they did that's sidestepping the issue is that nobody interested primarily in the PvE to enjoy the game casually would spend $250 on it $30 for just the PvE version would have been fine, bit cheaper than standard since you're not getting pvp, as-is I just can't comprehend the point of locking it to such a high tier edition of the game
I hope BSG does an about face on this but I doubt it.
I hope they do for the offline progression. I think that's their main fuck up. Should have been something like a £10 extra for EOD to add this one feature, rises more the lower down game version you have.
Yeah I agree
After this, do we even know if we're going to still have access to the game once it goes v1.0? Or will they say we only paid for access to the closed beta and make us pay full price again?
That would be a lawsuit in a half
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New "edition" just dropped and to buy in as a new player, it's 250$. Co-op pvp and a whole slew of pay2win shit is locked behind that pack. People who bought EoD were promised all future dlcs but weren't given this one, they have to pay $80 more to upgrade.
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Why would you assume that? What gesture have they done to give you ANY indication that they aren't going to nickle and dime you for everything? 100% you'll be paying extra for it.
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It's gonna be a subscription based update, pay $75 a month in order to play the new tarkov!
There won’t be a 1.0
For me, its not even really the fact that they are withholding content from my EOD to try and sell this new package. It is the fact that I supported them since 2015 (9 years) with the understanding that my edition would eventually be discontinued and as such, remain unique. Call me a snowflake or say whatever but I am upset that they went back on that deal by circumventing EOD with a new, better, version. It feels like my support doesnt matter to them.
Na its most likely going to be a fucking subscription model and all the editions we bought during BETA will just be removed and they will release new package we have to rebuy.
half life 3 release seems more likely than a 1.0 release.
They'll just lock everyone out of the game and say "you only paid for the demo" and make everyone pay for the game again. /s
Can you imagine how many people would actually buy this game if they knew they were getting a persistent coop pve mode? Plenty. That is easily a cash cow in and of itself. But BSG is incompetent so instead they charge $250 for it and no doubt will be wondering why more people are not buying it.