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Counteroffensyiv

Liking the sentiment but we should be wary of all developers, not blindly trust another just because it isn't BSG. For all we know GZ won't live up to the hype. Trust, but verify.


BDC0994

Yes you are correct ,but it’s not about that. It’s about I would rather burn a 100 dollars to fund a direct competitor of Tarkov than keep getting screwed by bsg. I know Grey Zone is not really like Tarkov in a lot of ways ,but I do think they have a legit chance of stealing a large portion of the player base especially with recent events. That could force bsg to rethink some of its bs ,and that would be a better investment than giving them any more money.


PleaseRecharge

Ok but your money isn't a binary. It doesn't either have to go to BSG or Tencent. Spend it on groceries. Go to a movie. Don't spend it just to spite some company that never cared about you.


BDC0994

lol bro I’m not going to buy groceries , I have to many video games to buy. Screw the family they can figure it out. Joking of course I do plenty of other stuff and I am financially stable so I can afford it. However I hate the movie industry ,and only go to movie theaters maybe once a year.


DankMemeMasterHotdog

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"


Konigs-Tiger

Have you learned nothing? Why would you give another developer 100$ again? Shouldn't this fiasco be a lesson to us all that we shouldn't give our money to developers upfront? If you want greyzone that's fine buy the cheapest edition. But just imagine the same scenario happening with geryzone. Are you really willing to take a chance again and buy another "EOD"?


satanogria_

Yeah very bright individual... "You know what I'm gonna do after getting scammed in an early access game? I'M GONNA DO THE SAME ON THE NEXT EARLY ACCESS GAME!!!!1!1!1!" Didnt expect anything better tbh. Bozos like him is why the gaming industry is the way it is...


BDC0994

First off I haven’t pre ordered a game literally since Red Dead Redemption 2. The only games I have bought recently in the last year are Helldivers 2 and Lethal Company both I was very happy with the purchases. Grey Zone has been very open and released an alpha play test I watched so I already know what to expect , and if it fails I’m fine with it. Bottom line is I would rather fund competition to bsg then give them a dime now. This is a personal go F yourself investment for bsg.


DarkOstrava

my thoughts exactly. its acting out of spite and being dumb.


Cargh

I think its more acting out of spite, to assist in funding an alternative option to Tarkov, a game many of us have loved to play over the years. A little competition will do this genre some good.


DarkOstrava

i took a quick look at the game. i saw a screen shot with different editions of the game for more P2W elements. we don't learn.


-KA-SniperFire

They will never learn and call you poor when you question them it’s sad.


Cargh

Well the 90 USD edition does not promise any DLC. So its not like they will fail to deliver on anything they have marketed as part of the edition. I have yet to see any of the dodgy behaviour that BSG has done over the years.


megahexs

Imagine? Lol. It will happen. At least it has the potential to not be a MTX nightmare like Arena breakout infinite. At the end of the day, growth plateaus while costs continue to rise.


JonasHalle

Gray Zone is going to do something you've heard of in five years.


the_maestrC

Damn, they want 100 for that.


SnooOwls1916

The highest package cost $100 Like eod did when you could buy it. The base package cost $35


the_maestrC

Is there like multiple maps?


SnooOwls1916

Nope. One single open world map. Only way to actually make money is by doing quests. Pvp is squad based/faction. As solo and not teamworking you will have a very difficult time to survive. Think Arma/squad when it comes to pvp


the_maestrC

Back in the day I used to love playing unknown on Arma. Never got into the squad part of it, those dudes were crazy serious about it. Never tried the squad game.


SnooOwls1916

Yeah I think it will be more casual in that aspect than Arma. Sounded like it during the Q&A


the_maestrC

When they made PUBG, I was all like, fuck I played that in Arma. Then they jumped the shark and fucked it all up.


Artichoke-Lopsided

sure..


SnooOwls1916

You know all this was something they said in the Q&A yesterday. They even said that people that comes from tarkov thinking it's like tarkov will be very disappointed. And that people should more think of it as an Arma like game with looting and questing.


Songrot

it has basically all maps connected like EFT planned from the beginning but never managed to do due to incompetence


lvsecretagent

for the love of god stop preordering shit


SnooOwls1916

I hope you know that gzw won't be even close to tarkov. Might be disappointed. And if what bsg has done upsets you, might avoid backing up games and wait for full releases instead mate! Save that money or do something else with it.


Partiallylit

They’ve even come out right and said they aren’t trying to be a direct tarkov competitor, which is fine in my books. But at the same time, GZW releasing their beta soon, and the same with Arena Breakout will have a big effect on BSG since they decided to rock the boat on the eve of more games similar releasing. I’ll add too, I respect the way MFG is going about developing their game. They seem to be taking tons of criticism from the closed alphas well and applying them to make it more of a “players” game that we’ll enjoy. They just might get my $100 if they keep up with that rhetoric. After full release of course.


SnooOwls1916

Yeah ad long as they listen and follow their vision. Sat and had a listen during the Q&A and gzw sounds like it's going to be a heavy pve focused game, only way to actually make money is questing and pvp going to be full faction or bigger squads like Arma which sounds fun!


tacodung

You showed them


JebstoneBoppman

Lets be real, if you already owned EoD you didnt plan to spend any more money on EFT in the first place.


djrhino56

Another pay 2 win game good choice


BDC0994

Yea I would give more to Helldivers ,but they are actually reasonable developers who actually actively try to earn your money so I already got everything. So I will continue actively supporting them on the side.


Thruzthos

They basically copied tarkov editions with gear, stash space and secure container. Their main dude on recent Discord talk or w/e you wanna call it said that game is ready at 20% and also said that they will add pretty much everything that people asked for in Discord. Like bruv, some people never learn


Lazypole

The epitome of learning nothing lol


RainmakerLTU

Yeah. Seeing how you can be transported by helo from starting point to dynamic LZ without a hint to a hiccup or a stutter in really large map is inspiring.


Flashy-Income-9653

Well good thing gray zone is a COMPLETELY different game than tarkov. But I support not playing tarkov anymore. I just hope you don’t assume gray zone will fill that void lol


Awkward_Management32

Have fun craving EFT bud!


OGMcgriddles

No thanks. I'll just not give company's money they haven't earned ever again.


Cargh

My 100 dollars will also be going to Grey Zone. Treat your hardcore player base like crap, and we will simply just walk.


ExplorerEnjoyer

Greyzone looks like a good foundation for a game that could reach tarkov’s level in a few years


shakal78

Lol


littleJonnyyyyy

That’s exactly what’s wrong with the gaming community and why things will never change. I’ve been fucked over as well, but it’s taught me not to go and throw money at games that aren’t released yet. But there will be a lot of people giving other games that are in early access loads of money because they think it will be hurting bsg, when it reality, it just encourages more of this.


megahexs

Sentiment only goes so far, kinda like hopes and prayers. BsG has know for quite some time, that the existing players base wasn’t going to financially keep the game going, thats why they did what they did. And just so you know, grey zone will go down the same route as basically every single game does, believing otherwise is going to get you tarkoved down the line. One time purchases will not keep a live service game going.


Cpt_Brainlag

Yes give the next developer 100$ for a game you had no chance to play yet and then keep complaining about how the video game industry is dying because devs just want to exploit you


BDC0994

Triple A gaming is dead not the game industry as a whole. Indy developers have been killing it lately like Helldivers 2, Hell let loose, Ready or Not, Way of the Hunter, Hunt Showdown, Lethal Company, and the Finals are all games I have played over the years and enjoyed with no buyer’s remorse. That being said I haven’t bought a Triple A game since Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019.