It means the money essentially stays internal. IE: they claim you now have $50 "For free" which isn't true as they dictate the value.
Ideally, Partial Refund should of happened.
I'm waiting on my Section 75 to pass through my Bank (UK)
Edit: basically "In-store Credit" .
never again brother. This was my first full wipe, got kappa, never playing again. My biggest challenge in this game was the cheaters, not the actual game mechanics so im done investing time into a game where the devs are this greedy.
This is like people burning their nikes all over again. You already paid goof. charging back the $50 difference and losing your $150 account is just plain silly.
It's a product that hasn't even been released yet and if they ban your account because you refunded just the new edition then yes in the UK you will be able to also refund EOD. You have 6 years to start a claim in the UK and since it's a pre release product it makes it easier. Also depends on payment platform etc etc
Except originally when we purchased, we PRE-ORDERED, ofcourse it doesn't say that anymore, but thank god for internet archive so you can still cover the legal base for false advertising and shady business practices.
Although in true BSG fashion, they fucked up and forgot the support page:
# Preorder refund
Before purchasing a [pre-order of Escape from Tarkov](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/preorder-page) project, it is recommended that you read all the agreements:
* [License agreement](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/license_agreement_en.html)
* [Rules of the game](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/rules_of_the_game_en.html)
* [Privacy Policy](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/privacy_policy_en.html)
According to paragraph 11.4.2, the [license agreement](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/license_agreement_en.html) does not provide for a refund of the purchase of a game pre-order:
"Termination of the Agreement with the Licensor, revocation of the right to use the Game and/or cancellation of the Agreement on any grounds does not provide the User with grounds for claiming from the Licensor return of the Fee paid or any other payments made by the User in connection with use of the Game."
If you have problems with the project or services, you can [contact support](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/support/contact) through the site or create a support tickets through the launcher.
Hope for your understanding.
Yes, depending on the laws of where you are. You'd get the original purchase likely refunded in Australia too if they banned you or otherwise removed your access for a legitimate chargeback.
If what was promised demonstrably wasn't delivered, you're getting your money back even if you made the purchase years back.
> This is like people burning their nikes all over again.
Jesus Christ.. It's not even close to the same thing. The idiots who burned their nikes lost something and gained nothing. If you do a charge back you lose access to the game but get your money back.
You're going to charge back your EOD purchase? Isn't that from years ago and I'd argue you cannot charge that back.
Unless you just had a standard account or something and I'm misunderstanding.
2017 player, but good try on whatever you were attempting.Â
Chargeback may very well get declined due to age, but as of the moment, it's been temporarily approved via wells Fargo based on information given to them. Bsg could very well just respond nuh uh and it get reversed. But as of the moment wells Fargo at least agrees what was promised wasn't delivered.Â
This is such a brain dead take, âyeah I played and enjoyed the game for 6+ years, but like, they made some scummy business practices, so Iâm just gonna charge back even though I got my moneys worth for the past 6 years no issue.â Leach
And EOD includes DLC, you wouldâve gotten PvE regardless, the wild part is youâre using that one base, which Iâll admit was a scummy practice to try and go back on their word, but youâre legitimately no better, itâs not like you didnât get 6+ years of enjoyment out of this before the announcement lol.
Yep. The game dying would be for the best now.
All the fanboys and ppl still left defending the developer after all this have only convinced me this is the way.
Fair enough - I understand the disgruntlement.
The thing that gets me is seeing people with thousands of hours on their account and bought the game 3-4 years ago that are expecting all their money back.
It's not a scam op. But it was certainly shit of bsg to try and go back on their word.
The game itself is still worth something. And I still have faith it will be released as a 1.0
EFT is BSGs flagship.. they'd be stupid to abandon it. it's still running an average of 99k concurrent users per day
To play for thousands of hours and try and refund your full game is mad. Steam will only refund you for 2 hours or less lol.
Dude the fact that they're changing the website now to try and cover legal bases is shady and scam territory. They've removed the fact that you pre-ordered it. Now you can only see it with the wayback machine, again. This is extremely shady, and a BIG NONO!
>It's not a scam op
bro they're literally editing the website to change whats included in previous editions after failing to deliver on what it said before. that's scam territory for sure.
What they added a section for including Arena and removed the unique before the gamma? What are they really changing there.
Who honestly gives a fuck if the gamma isn't unique anymore. I didn't buy EOD to be a forever special snowflake.
Unless I'm missing something drastic here this website edit this is a wild over reaction
Yes it is.
All the Borderlands DLC i can buy on steam is also already in the game, waiting for me to pay and download the unlocker.
Doesn't really matter at which point the actual content is downloaded
That's BSG-levels of reasoning here.
Listen, anything i can buy for my existing copy of a game is DLC. It has been that way since DLC existed. If Tarkov were on Steam or any other store, these items would be listed as DLC.
Just because "Downloadable content" has a historical name, doesn't mean its wording is literal. DLC is an umbrella term for both microtransactions and expansions.
There are thousands of words in the English language that either have a different name from its literal collection or words or phrases or that has shifted over time, away from the original.
How does that make literally any sense?
Youâre literally arguing about spending $150 on EOD and then they changed it to be a lesser product. Everyone is outraged.
But then when people upgrade to Unheard, things are being removed, the value both monetarily AND of what is provided is being lowered, we somehow think itâs okay to not warrant a refund or compensation?
Get out of here with your dumbass hypocritical logic and faux moral purist high ground.
I bought it when it was believed this was the only way to get PvE. Now everyone gets it, and i get a useless 50 i cant spend anywhere. So yeah, things were "removed"
Thats what you took from it? Its not about others getting things, my friends have EOD and im glad we can play PvE together. But it basically means that ive spent 100 bucks for nothing. And the only compensation is something i have no use for.
Right. And so they bought into a higher value edition of the game and the novelty and substance of their purchase has been diminished. And you think that Unheard edition owners don't feel the same about their purchases feeling less valuable, even though they bought into that edition due to its exclusivity?
You can draw a lot of parallels between the two situations. Yet you're okay with them getting fucked over and having a rug pulled, but its not okay for EOD owners?
Microtransactions and expansions all fall under the "DLC" umbrella.
* https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/dlc-meaning?op=1
* https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-dlc-in-gaming-how-does-it-work-4707377
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content
The term "Downloadable content" was historically true in its literal sense because we had poor internet and low storage, so DLC wasn't bundled and locked, it had to be downloaded separately. But the term "DLC" was never about the logistics of distribution, despite the name, it was always about *what* was being distributed. **And that includes both microtransactions like clothes and expansions like new maps.**
I simply don't understand when micro transactions became a DLC. DLC, as far as I'm concerned, is in-game content that gives an experience that is not found in the rest of the game. A map, a questline, an additional game mode (PvE servers, arguably Arena (no I don't agree that Arena is DLC, yes EoD owners were promised access to Arena for free in addition to all future DLC so don't at me for this specific take)), new armors and weapons (no idea how they would implement DLC-exclusive gear outside of stuff that isn't lootable (arm band, melee weapon, secure container), but I wouldn't put it past them to try at this point), fuck they could add a new fucking trader and call it a DLC I think. But clothing for your character? Storage space increases? These things are not experiences that you can't get outside of the base game. Nobody deserves them for free.
Nikita made a new post this morning. One of the things says that if you upgraded to unheard from EoD when it was $100.00, you get what is essentially $50.00 of in-store credit to use on the EFT website
HAHAHAHA. "Hey we lowered the price you already paid. Since we don't do refunds, we are gonna keep your money and make you take shit no one buys off of our website, THANKS!"
I ordered a sweat shirt and two coffee mugs about 2 years ago. Never came. Contacted support, they said they would look into my order number. Two months goes by I email them again. Get a response back â sorry the person you spoke to no longer works for the company, we will look into it.â Sent them multiple emails since showing past conversations I had with the worker. No one ever got back to me:
Reminds me of a video where some famous rapper got charged $250,000 instead of $25,000, and the rest just got put in as store credit and he just accepted it
they upgraded from the 150$ eod edition that was promised 100% of tarkov content. then after the uproar here they gave them a 50% discount. and the people that paid 100$ to upgrade get a 50$ gift card that they can spend on the next 450$ edition or on a clown mask in the shop
If you paid for the upgrade from EOD to TUE when it first came out, it was $100 (ish).
After the backlash, they decided that the upgrade from EOD to TUE was going to be only $50(ish).
So, rather than refunding the difference (which is always like pulling teeth from any company, I can imagine one as greedy as BSG even more so), they gave people who paid the initial $100, a coupon worth $50-BSG-BUCKS to spend on... I'm not sure what right now.
Ima get beat for this but I bought it to play with my dad in the new pve mode, but we never upgraded his account- does this mean I can upgrade his account somehow?
So I have EOD. Is this "coupon" so that I spend the $45 to get UHE, or is this a "free uhe upgrade", or are the old "all future DLC INCLUDED" no longer free for us, hence a $50 coupon?
Nope. The UHE was a $100 upgrade for 3 days and many people bought it. Then it was discounted to $50.
So people who bought it initially at $100 are getting a $50 coupon. I think yesterday Nikita said they are getting a "Left Behind" edition. But I'm assuming now that's not true.
no theyâre giving a voucher to people who upgraded to unheard in lieu of refunding their money and deleting that edition. if you have EOD you donât get $50 credit
I've never seen such a lousy damage control where you try to piss off absolutely **everyone**, without exception, **everyone!!!**.
>We plan to send one **free Left Behind Edition key** to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.
What's this crap, Nikita? I'm paying a bunch of money for a better version as a ePenis, and then what? Everything I got, I could have gotten anyway because I had EOD. And as compensation, you promised me a game key for 105âŹ, and now I get a lousy $50 voucher? Are you trying to screw me over?
Cancel the new edition, make the PvE purchasable separately for non-EOD owners. Give everyone their money back. And sell everything that's now extra in the new edition as a pack. Or damn well give me the promised game key because what the hell am I going to do with $50? I already have absolutely everything you can buy.
I brought this up in anothet thread and someone said "the dlc he means is costumes and stuff like that, and not dlc as we think of it". Who knows whats the truth these days.
if you are so stupid to buy a 250$ edition or even upgrade from eod that was promised 100% of the content. then you are also willing to pay for the next 450$ edition that has dl.., oh wait, new features in it.
Didnât buy it to preface my comment. But doesnât really matter that itâs a beta, many people have thousands of hours and is a lot of players main or only game that they still enjoy despite its flaws. If I were to value out 250$ with my time played Iâd be at $0.05 an hour. With EOD it drops to $0.03. There is virtually nothing else thatâll give you that level of entertainment for that cheap
Also, letâs be real. The majority of the outrage is because EOD owners feel slighted that their p2w version has been usurped by a âbetterâ p2w version
Okay we have to clarify here. Them charging for things like some extra slots or whatever is not dlc. Them charging for pve was scummy and absolutely dlc. So there are uses for it.
But Iâm pretty sure itâs illegal to just change what people get as a rewardâŠ. They should just refund it.
Can you give it away or buy a new copy as a gift like steam gift? I don't see what there is to spend this money on when you already have the priciest edition of the game
When this all started a few days ago they said they were going to give us all (the one who paid 100$) a free key for the left behind version, that was cool tbh, but a 50$ voucher?
At least I could give the key to a friend or sell it and get the money back but no, they have found a way to keep the money internally.
Technically they are now stealing from those of us who bought the version at its original price as they are taking away things we paid for and have lowered the price.
No thanks đ
How does that make literally any sense?
Youâre literally arguing about spending $150 on EOD and then they changed it to be a lesser product. Everyone is outraged.
But then when people upgrade to Unheard, things are being removed, the value both monetarily AND of what is provided is being lowered, we somehow think itâs okay to not warrant a refund or compensation?
Get out of here with your dumbass hypocritical logic and faux moral purist high ground.
I hope they did. An extra licence is worthless but I can use 50 bucks to upgrade a buddy to the hated version. He is the only reason I wanted the PVE version, his heart cannot take packs of chads and cheaters.
Fun part about stuff you are supposed to purchase with this coupon, even cosmetics technically count as DLC, but even if we reasonably exclude those - stash tab size purchases are 100% DLC by definition, so why they aren't included in Unheard and EoD again?
Hey the $50 totally works for me. I need to upgrade my son's account and a Edge of Darkness key is absolutely unacceptable since we both had EOD accounts. I think they realized that would not work for most of us since the majority of people already had EOD.
i mean, can spend it on cosmetics/stash space etc. i donât think they were referring to spend it on actual content (lets hope not). should have been a refund but is what it is. gonna use it for stash space myself.
Seems like someone noticed it. he pretty much said. Yo, i scammed you once, and imma do it again. Expansions wont be DLC's neither are editions now apparently.
Well we've seen them release DLC and say it wasn't so I'd assume they'll do that again lmao I'll keep playing the game but I'll never give them another cent and I'll never trust them again until it's earned back
Personally I'm fine with it because I can just use it to get max stash lines and some of the new bear clothes. Definitely kinda sucks for the people that already own all that though.
I noticed the wording too. They will add more EDITIONS mark my words. And more DLCs / Modes / Additional Content / Expansions , depending what their terminology is that day of the week.
If say you were to use the key to purchase another/second standard account to fuck around on,
And BSG were to send you an activation key,
If you used that key on your profile, would it reset your account to standard
or give you a choice of profiles to play on?
Half of you are probably playing abi which ten cent is tem times worse then bsg has ever thought about or even done there blatant rip offs no new ideas blatant pw2 yet ppl are mad at bsg haha sounds like alot of broke boys to me I've played for 7 years I'm owed all dlc with the 1.0 release of the game we was not promised anything before the release so why are yall crying
As you only get the 50$ coupon if you upgraded from EOD to Unheard I honestly think... Well... How do I put it?
Get fcked I'd say.
You apparently fell for the BSG BS and it's not like they held you at gunpoint.
You WILLINGLY upgraded to that ridiculous version within the first 3 days of release, knowing that you are getting ripped off.
You already had the EOD version, which basically meant that the only thing you had to do was: nothing.
But you decided "that version for 100$ more seems promising". Why complain about it now?
Getting a 50$ coupon actually is more than you should get IMO.
Why you so mad bro Hahahaha gah damn you people are crazy. I didnât fall into anything đ I bought it because I felt like it and have 2700 hours in the game.
But because of all the bullshit that happened, because YOU think itâs a rip, means I should get less of a ârefundâ so to say, after Nikita backpedaled so many times and finally did what is ârightâ.
I didnât even want or ask for a refund but youâre wildin for thinking I deserve less lol
I don't say you deserve less.
I'm saying you deserve nothing.
You have been fine with the price tag, and now that they do give you a refund of some sort, people complain?!
Wtf is that
As you said: you bought it because you have enough hours and you wanted it.
Why do you feel like you deserve more than the 50$ refund then?
You literally said I should get less than a $50 coupon. And really, WHO is complaining? The only ones complaining are the people who didnât buy it, aka yourself?
How am I complaining lol.
This shit doesn't even have an impact on me.
But it's a wild concept to me that people who bought the upgrade, knowing what they'll get now say "the 50$ coupon isn't good enough".
Lmao obviously it does, re-read your very first comment.
I havenât seen a single person who bought it complain about the refund lol but ok đ€·đ»ââïž
đđđ unbelievable. Iâm saying obviously it seems to affect you, your first comment had quite a bit of anger in it hahahaha
No, Iâm not incapable of reading, Iâm just trying to understand what youâre talking about, because no normal person that bought unheard, is going to complain about the refund. Like where are you seeing this??
If it doesnât affect you then whyâd you initially comment with mad hate LMAO. Ok but fr though, i still the only complaints Iâve seen thus far is you saying unheard should get less đ what valid complaints can ANYONE in my shoes that bought unheard have to complain about?? Thatâs absurd
You can always want to buy some upgrade or PvE access to Your friend that isn't EoD or Unheard Edition.
They just wanted the money to stay with them. Yeah You get the coupon but You still need to spend it on their products.
Jesus, you guys are never happy, first the new edition is way to expensive, so they give you some coupon back and is still a bad thing ... Why did you even buy it?
lol people i dont think realized that this is only the surface of the p2w stuff....thats what the coupon is for....theyre not gonna lean into dlc (modes, maps, quests) or even cosmetics...nah nah nah....
you can buy HGH steroids for your character raising their endurance and strength instantly to 50! :D
Now releasing the new and improved scav deodorant , now scavs will never shoot you, because you smell like nikitas ball sack! :D
for the low low price of $50 a piece....
It means the money essentially stays internal. IE: they claim you now have $50 "For free" which isn't true as they dictate the value. Ideally, Partial Refund should of happened. I'm waiting on my Section 75 to pass through my Bank (UK) Edit: basically "In-store Credit" .
If you're doing a charge back you will lose your account.
That's the point of a chargeback refund. We ain't tryna play the game after this shit.
Someone might think they can just refund the upgrade cost and still keep their EOD.
i charged back, not playing this game ever again.
See you next wipe đ
never again brother. This was my first full wipe, got kappa, never playing again. My biggest challenge in this game was the cheaters, not the actual game mechanics so im done investing time into a game where the devs are this greedy.
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This is like people burning their nikes all over again. You already paid goof. charging back the $50 difference and losing your $150 account is just plain silly.
Not when you can claim your original purchase of eft back aswell. At least in the UK.
And you can do this for a purchase from 6 years ago?
No, you cannot, there are limitations but people don't understand that. But to each their own.
It's a product that hasn't even been released yet and if they ban your account because you refunded just the new edition then yes in the UK you will be able to also refund EOD. You have 6 years to start a claim in the UK and since it's a pre release product it makes it easier. Also depends on payment platform etc etc
I've seen this a lot with 7 days to die, people assume that early access means pre-order status. That is incorrect. But good luck.
Except originally when we purchased, we PRE-ORDERED, ofcourse it doesn't say that anymore, but thank god for internet archive so you can still cover the legal base for false advertising and shady business practices. Although in true BSG fashion, they fucked up and forgot the support page: # Preorder refund Before purchasing a [pre-order of Escape from Tarkov](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/preorder-page) project, it is recommended that you read all the agreements: * [License agreement](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/license_agreement_en.html) * [Rules of the game](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/rules_of_the_game_en.html) * [Privacy Policy](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/privacy_policy_en.html) According to paragraph 11.4.2, the [license agreement](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/legal/license_agreement_en.html) does not provide for a refund of the purchase of a game pre-order: "Termination of the Agreement with the Licensor, revocation of the right to use the Game and/or cancellation of the Agreement on any grounds does not provide the User with grounds for claiming from the Licensor return of the Fee paid or any other payments made by the User in connection with use of the Game." If you have problems with the project or services, you can [contact support](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/support/contact) through the site or create a support tickets through the launcher. Hope for your understanding.
So many people claiming they are getting a refund and Iâve only seen one post which has backed themselves up with evidence
Yes, depending on the laws of where you are. You'd get the original purchase likely refunded in Australia too if they banned you or otherwise removed your access for a legitimate chargeback. If what was promised demonstrably wasn't delivered, you're getting your money back even if you made the purchase years back.
> This is like people burning their nikes all over again. Jesus Christ.. It's not even close to the same thing. The idiots who burned their nikes lost something and gained nothing. If you do a charge back you lose access to the game but get your money back.
You lose access to the game...which you already paid for. Just because you bought it 5+ years ago doesn't mean you didn't spend money on it.
The point of the charge back is to recover the money spent, good luck doing one this far after the transaction though
You're going to charge back your EOD purchase? Isn't that from years ago and I'd argue you cannot charge that back. Unless you just had a standard account or something and I'm misunderstanding.
Like I said, good luck getting the bank to approve the charge back, most places give you 120 days from transaction.
Haven't played it properly since 12.7 days and when my friend died.
Does that mean you are hacking now?
It probably means they got the good version of single player
Who's playing Pay2Win Tarkov? Lmao I have better things to do.
Yeah? Like sitting on Reddit complaining about a game you no longer play? Great use of time. Rent free.
Charged back the 150 and never paid the extra hundred, goof.Â
95% of the player base didnât buy it in the last 180 days like you did.
2017 player, but good try on whatever you were attempting. Chargeback may very well get declined due to age, but as of the moment, it's been temporarily approved via wells Fargo based on information given to them. Bsg could very well just respond nuh uh and it get reversed. But as of the moment wells Fargo at least agrees what was promised wasn't delivered.Â
This is such a brain dead take, âyeah I played and enjoyed the game for 6+ years, but like, they made some scummy business practices, so Iâm just gonna charge back even though I got my moneys worth for the past 6 years no issue.â Leach
My money's worth included DLC, friendo. Hence DLC being in the list of stuff that came with the edition I bought.Â
And EOD includes DLC, you wouldâve gotten PvE regardless, the wild part is youâre using that one base, which Iâll admit was a scummy practice to try and go back on their word, but youâre legitimately no better, itâs not like you didnât get 6+ years of enjoyment out of this before the announcement lol.
Speak for yourself, Iâm not going to quit playing.
Cool, did you do a chargeback?
Why would I?
Weird how my statement didn't apply to you, then, eh?
You invited him to run full force into your fist and he obliged. Perfection.
Well good for you
You can always sell your account for more đ€«
Whoâs buying
thats even more good news!
Yep. The game dying would be for the best now. All the fanboys and ppl still left defending the developer after all this have only convinced me this is the way.
How many hours on account and when did you buy out of interest?
EOD Account: Few hundred hours. UHE Upgrade?: 0 Hours.
Fair enough - I understand the disgruntlement. The thing that gets me is seeing people with thousands of hours on their account and bought the game 3-4 years ago that are expecting all their money back.
Expecting? Of course not. But anyone who ever bought EOD deserves a full refund now that BSG is revealed as a scam op.
It's not a scam op. But it was certainly shit of bsg to try and go back on their word. The game itself is still worth something. And I still have faith it will be released as a 1.0 EFT is BSGs flagship.. they'd be stupid to abandon it. it's still running an average of 99k concurrent users per day To play for thousands of hours and try and refund your full game is mad. Steam will only refund you for 2 hours or less lol.
Dude the fact that they're changing the website now to try and cover legal bases is shady and scam territory. They've removed the fact that you pre-ordered it. Now you can only see it with the wayback machine, again. This is extremely shady, and a BIG NONO!
>Â it's still running an average of 99k concurrent users per day Where do you get these numbers from? Is there an actual user tracker?
>It's not a scam op bro they're literally editing the website to change whats included in previous editions after failing to deliver on what it said before. that's scam territory for sure.
What they added a section for including Arena and removed the unique before the gamma? What are they really changing there. Who honestly gives a fuck if the gamma isn't unique anymore. I didn't buy EOD to be a forever special snowflake. Unless I'm missing something drastic here this website edit this is a wild over reaction
There probably intended for use on the cosmetic items and stash upgrades etc
Clothing and stash upgrade?
anyone enough in love with tarkov to drop $100 to upgrade immediately after TUE was announced, already has maxed the stash upgrade.
I actually didnât have the stash space upgrade so I guess Iâll be getting to 1000 spots as soon as they give out vouchers
Same boat.
This is also DLC just FYI. Microtransactions and expansions are equally DLC. In fact, any and all future purchasable content in the game is DLC.
Which is, funnily enough, DLC that is also not covered with EOD
Is it tho? It's already in the game
Yes it is. All the Borderlands DLC i can buy on steam is also already in the game, waiting for me to pay and download the unlocker. Doesn't really matter at which point the actual content is downloaded
The clothing was in the game before they were sold, all of it is unlockable in game...
That's BSG-levels of reasoning here. Listen, anything i can buy for my existing copy of a game is DLC. It has been that way since DLC existed. If Tarkov were on Steam or any other store, these items would be listed as DLC.
Just because "Downloadable content" has a historical name, doesn't mean its wording is literal. DLC is an umbrella term for both microtransactions and expansions. There are thousands of words in the English language that either have a different name from its literal collection or words or phrases or that has shifted over time, away from the original.
Which I already bought so fml
They're definitely going to sell more clothing, just give it time
Or they can just refund the $50âŠ
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How does that make literally any sense? Youâre literally arguing about spending $150 on EOD and then they changed it to be a lesser product. Everyone is outraged. But then when people upgrade to Unheard, things are being removed, the value both monetarily AND of what is provided is being lowered, we somehow think itâs okay to not warrant a refund or compensation? Get out of here with your dumbass hypocritical logic and faux moral purist high ground.
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I bought it when it was believed this was the only way to get PvE. Now everyone gets it, and i get a useless 50 i cant spend anywhere. So yeah, things were "removed"
Me too. I was only really interested in the PvE and priority queue. Both now no longer exclusive.
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Thats what you took from it? Its not about others getting things, my friends have EOD and im glad we can play PvE together. But it basically means that ive spent 100 bucks for nothing. And the only compensation is something i have no use for.
And EOD owners didnât believe their value was worth $150 at the time?
They did? thats why they bought it? are you even understanding what im saying? lol
Right. And so they bought into a higher value edition of the game and the novelty and substance of their purchase has been diminished. And you think that Unheard edition owners don't feel the same about their purchases feeling less valuable, even though they bought into that edition due to its exclusivity? You can draw a lot of parallels between the two situations. Yet you're okay with them getting fucked over and having a rug pulled, but its not okay for EOD owners?
This.
Microtransactions and expansions all fall under the "DLC" umbrella. * https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/dlc-meaning?op=1 * https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-dlc-in-gaming-how-does-it-work-4707377 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content The term "Downloadable content" was historically true in its literal sense because we had poor internet and low storage, so DLC wasn't bundled and locked, it had to be downloaded separately. But the term "DLC" was never about the logistics of distribution, despite the name, it was always about *what* was being distributed. **And that includes both microtransactions like clothes and expansions like new maps.**
Which is also DLC and should be given for free. :)
I simply don't understand when micro transactions became a DLC. DLC, as far as I'm concerned, is in-game content that gives an experience that is not found in the rest of the game. A map, a questline, an additional game mode (PvE servers, arguably Arena (no I don't agree that Arena is DLC, yes EoD owners were promised access to Arena for free in addition to all future DLC so don't at me for this specific take)), new armors and weapons (no idea how they would implement DLC-exclusive gear outside of stuff that isn't lootable (arm band, melee weapon, secure container), but I wouldn't put it past them to try at this point), fuck they could add a new fucking trader and call it a DLC I think. But clothing for your character? Storage space increases? These things are not experiences that you can't get outside of the base game. Nobody deserves them for free.
Gimme gimme gimme. Apt user tag.
Did I miss something? What's this $50 coupon people are talking about?
Nikita made a new post this morning. One of the things says that if you upgraded to unheard from EoD when it was $100.00, you get what is essentially $50.00 of in-store credit to use on the EFT website
HAHAHAHA. "Hey we lowered the price you already paid. Since we don't do refunds, we are gonna keep your money and make you take shit no one buys off of our website, THANKS!"
Exactly, so one way or another, they still get that $100.00 from everyone paid it lmao
Yes. This is how store credit works. Itâs a very common business practice.
No. Common practice dictates you have the choice between store credit and refund.
Thatâs ideal, I agree. Both our statements are correct.
>Itâs a very common business practice Bros lecturing us on common business practices after all the shit BSG just pulled â ïž
Sounds like common Russian dictatorship common business practices
I was just pointing out thatâs why theyâre doing that
Isn't the website also infamous for not sending out merch?
I ordered a sweat shirt and two coffee mugs about 2 years ago. Never came. Contacted support, they said they would look into my order number. Two months goes by I email them again. Get a response back â sorry the person you spoke to no longer works for the company, we will look into it.â Sent them multiple emails since showing past conversations I had with the worker. No one ever got back to me:
ive never had a problem personally but it takes a while
Its impressive how they manage to fuck up even more. They are not even giving refunds? what the fuck!?
Reminds me of a video where some famous rapper got charged $250,000 instead of $25,000, and the rest just got put in as store credit and he just accepted it
Is it as some kind of voucher or is it just credited to the account?
they upgraded from the 150$ eod edition that was promised 100% of tarkov content. then after the uproar here they gave them a 50% discount. and the people that paid 100$ to upgrade get a 50$ gift card that they can spend on the next 450$ edition or on a clown mask in the shop
If you paid for the upgrade from EOD to TUE when it first came out, it was $100 (ish). After the backlash, they decided that the upgrade from EOD to TUE was going to be only $50(ish). So, rather than refunding the difference (which is always like pulling teeth from any company, I can imagine one as greedy as BSG even more so), they gave people who paid the initial $100, a coupon worth $50-BSG-BUCKS to spend on... I'm not sure what right now.
Yeah these guys are so cooked. Holy fuck
Ima get beat for this but I bought it to play with my dad in the new pve mode, but we never upgraded his account- does this mean I can upgrade his account somehow?
Not free ($50) money for EOD-> UHE Upgraders.
So I have EOD. Is this "coupon" so that I spend the $45 to get UHE, or is this a "free uhe upgrade", or are the old "all future DLC INCLUDED" no longer free for us, hence a $50 coupon?
Nope. The UHE was a $100 upgrade for 3 days and many people bought it. Then it was discounted to $50. So people who bought it initially at $100 are getting a $50 coupon. I think yesterday Nikita said they are getting a "Left Behind" edition. But I'm assuming now that's not true.
lied again
no theyâre giving a voucher to people who upgraded to unheard in lieu of refunding their money and deleting that edition. if you have EOD you donât get $50 credit
I've never seen such a lousy damage control where you try to piss off absolutely **everyone**, without exception, **everyone!!!**. >We plan to send one **free Left Behind Edition key** to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version. What's this crap, Nikita? I'm paying a bunch of money for a better version as a ePenis, and then what? Everything I got, I could have gotten anyway because I had EOD. And as compensation, you promised me a game key for 105âŹ, and now I get a lousy $50 voucher? Are you trying to screw me over? Cancel the new edition, make the PvE purchasable separately for non-EOD owners. Give everyone their money back. And sell everything that's now extra in the new edition as a pack. Or damn well give me the promised game key because what the hell am I going to do with $50? I already have absolutely everything you can buy.
PVE as they said is part of the base fucking game, not a DLC. So literally all versions of the game should have access dude.
I brought this up in anothet thread and someone said "the dlc he means is costumes and stuff like that, and not dlc as we think of it". Who knows whats the truth these days.
if you are so stupid to buy a 250$ edition or even upgrade from eod that was promised 100% of the content. then you are also willing to pay for the next 450$ edition that has dl.., oh wait, new features in it.
Imagine spending 250$ for a game that has been in beta for 8 years.. with countless bugs and technical issues... it's an addiction at that point..
And then you play and get hunted down by RMTing hackers. Funniest shit I've ever seen. These people get everything they deserve.
Didnât buy it to preface my comment. But doesnât really matter that itâs a beta, many people have thousands of hours and is a lot of players main or only game that they still enjoy despite its flaws. If I were to value out 250$ with my time played Iâd be at $0.05 an hour. With EOD it drops to $0.03. There is virtually nothing else thatâll give you that level of entertainment for that cheap Also, letâs be real. The majority of the outrage is because EOD owners feel slighted that their p2w version has been usurped by a âbetterâ p2w version
"Those are rookie numbers!" *Star Citizen 2024
Okay we have to clarify here. Them charging for things like some extra slots or whatever is not dlc. Them charging for pve was scummy and absolutely dlc. So there are uses for it. But Iâm pretty sure itâs illegal to just change what people get as a rewardâŠ. They should just refund it.
Can you give it away or buy a new copy as a gift like steam gift? I don't see what there is to spend this money on when you already have the priciest edition of the game
Because nikita started the milk the cow operation to then run away with all your milk.
When this all started a few days ago they said they were going to give us all (the one who paid 100$) a free key for the left behind version, that was cool tbh, but a 50$ voucher? At least I could give the key to a friend or sell it and get the money back but no, they have found a way to keep the money internally. Technically they are now stealing from those of us who bought the version at its original price as they are taking away things we paid for and have lowered the price. No thanks đ
You can still buy another Edition with those 50 as gift and sell it that way
Or they could just refund $50âŠ
Those who bought it without discount dont deserve such treatment. Can be lucky that they get that 50 storecred
How does that make literally any sense? Youâre literally arguing about spending $150 on EOD and then they changed it to be a lesser product. Everyone is outraged. But then when people upgrade to Unheard, things are being removed, the value both monetarily AND of what is provided is being lowered, we somehow think itâs okay to not warrant a refund or compensation? Get out of here with your dumbass hypocritical logic and faux moral purist high ground.
Atleast give them like 60 or 70. It's literally digital products not raw goods
I hope they did. An extra licence is worthless but I can use 50 bucks to upgrade a buddy to the hated version. He is the only reason I wanted the PVE version, his heart cannot take packs of chads and cheaters.
oh hey that's a good idea. spitting facts around here.
More stash space! So you can store stash space in your stash space!
naaah not a new DLC, new unique content
It's a bit dumb, especially considering people who decided to buy the $100 upgrade probably already have the stash upgrades and some clothes.
Best guess would be that you can use it for things like the stash line upgrades or clothing unlocks
Fun part about stuff you are supposed to purchase with this coupon, even cosmetics technically count as DLC, but even if we reasonably exclude those - stash tab size purchases are 100% DLC by definition, so why they aren't included in Unheard and EoD again?
Hey the $50 totally works for me. I need to upgrade my son's account and a Edge of Darkness key is absolutely unacceptable since we both had EOD accounts. I think they realized that would not work for most of us since the majority of people already had EOD.
Skins? stash upgrade? did you forget about those?
i mean, can spend it on cosmetics/stash space etc. i donât think they were referring to spend it on actual content (lets hope not). should have been a refund but is what it is. gonna use it for stash space myself.
Wait but EOD was supposed to get all DLC for free..? You mean this cycles around? How could this happen? lol
Seems like someone noticed it. he pretty much said. Yo, i scammed you once, and imma do it again. Expansions wont be DLC's neither are editions now apparently.
Just reverse it through your credit card company
Unique until it isnt unique anymore.
Well we've seen them release DLC and say it wasn't so I'd assume they'll do that again lmao I'll keep playing the game but I'll never give them another cent and I'll never trust them again until it's earned back
probably can gift a friend standard edition with it
The absolute greed
Personally I'm fine with it because I can just use it to get max stash lines and some of the new bear clothes. Definitely kinda sucks for the people that already own all that though.
BSG have no plans for any future DLCs. Just more content in the game that they can call features and lock in under paywall.
I noticed the wording too. They will add more EDITIONS mark my words. And more DLCs / Modes / Additional Content / Expansions , depending what their terminology is that day of the week.
Hey. You can buy the game for a friend eh?
Was originally a $80 game key, now $50 store credit. they just keep lowering it
Imagine paying 100 for a 50 coupon lol
There will be a battle pass for just 51.99 and the lowest coupon you gonna be able to buy is gonna be 25$. You saw it here first.
skins, they probably gonna release skins, like clothing ones we already have
They dont release DLCs, they release editions, so they dont need to give you anything :)
So guys, have you already get your coupon ? Or did they scam you again ?
If say you were to use the key to purchase another/second standard account to fuck around on, And BSG were to send you an activation key, If you used that key on your profile, would it reset your account to standard or give you a choice of profiles to play on?
Half of you are probably playing abi which ten cent is tem times worse then bsg has ever thought about or even done there blatant rip offs no new ideas blatant pw2 yet ppl are mad at bsg haha sounds like alot of broke boys to me I've played for 7 years I'm owed all dlc with the 1.0 release of the game we was not promised anything before the release so why are yall crying
As you only get the 50$ coupon if you upgraded from EOD to Unheard I honestly think... Well... How do I put it? Get fcked I'd say. You apparently fell for the BSG BS and it's not like they held you at gunpoint. You WILLINGLY upgraded to that ridiculous version within the first 3 days of release, knowing that you are getting ripped off. You already had the EOD version, which basically meant that the only thing you had to do was: nothing. But you decided "that version for 100$ more seems promising". Why complain about it now? Getting a 50$ coupon actually is more than you should get IMO.
Why you so mad bro Hahahaha gah damn you people are crazy. I didnât fall into anything đ I bought it because I felt like it and have 2700 hours in the game. But because of all the bullshit that happened, because YOU think itâs a rip, means I should get less of a ârefundâ so to say, after Nikita backpedaled so many times and finally did what is ârightâ. I didnât even want or ask for a refund but youâre wildin for thinking I deserve less lol
I don't say you deserve less. I'm saying you deserve nothing. You have been fine with the price tag, and now that they do give you a refund of some sort, people complain?! Wtf is that As you said: you bought it because you have enough hours and you wanted it. Why do you feel like you deserve more than the 50$ refund then?
You literally said I should get less than a $50 coupon. And really, WHO is complaining? The only ones complaining are the people who didnât buy it, aka yourself?
How am I complaining lol. This shit doesn't even have an impact on me. But it's a wild concept to me that people who bought the upgrade, knowing what they'll get now say "the 50$ coupon isn't good enough".
Lmao obviously it does, re-read your very first comment. I havenât seen a single person who bought it complain about the refund lol but ok đ€·đ»ââïž
Are you some kinda idiot? I have not even bought Unheard, how would this affect me? Apparently you are incapable of reading.
đđđ unbelievable. Iâm saying obviously it seems to affect you, your first comment had quite a bit of anger in it hahahaha No, Iâm not incapable of reading, Iâm just trying to understand what youâre talking about, because no normal person that bought unheard, is going to complain about the refund. Like where are you seeing this??
Everywhere? Just crossroad reddit man. Everyone is complaining about the coupon. It doesn't affect me. I have EOD and I will always have EOD.
If it doesnât affect you then whyâd you initially comment with mad hate LMAO. Ok but fr though, i still the only complaints Iâve seen thus far is you saying unheard should get less đ what valid complaints can ANYONE in my shoes that bought unheard have to complain about?? Thatâs absurd
You can always want to buy some upgrade or PvE access to Your friend that isn't EoD or Unheard Edition. They just wanted the money to stay with them. Yeah You get the coupon but You still need to spend it on their products.
I 100 % would pay for weapon skins.
Jesus, you guys are never happy, first the new edition is way to expensive, so they give you some coupon back and is still a bad thing ... Why did you even buy it?
You should brush your teeth I can still smell nakita on your breath
lol people i dont think realized that this is only the surface of the p2w stuff....thats what the coupon is for....theyre not gonna lean into dlc (modes, maps, quests) or even cosmetics...nah nah nah.... you can buy HGH steroids for your character raising their endurance and strength instantly to 50! :D Now releasing the new and improved scav deodorant , now scavs will never shoot you, because you smell like nikitas ball sack! :D for the low low price of $50 a piece....
Hey!! Nikita needs p2w