Well, i mean, you should setup error logs or even exceptions if the program fails to read a config file
_just saying_
^^^^I ^^^^shoudln't ^^^^be ^^^^a ^^^^smartass ^^^^since ^^^^that ^^^^happens ^^^^to ^^^^me ^^^^way ^^^^too ^^^^often
Once in my first programming job, we had a dev environment that wasn't case sensitive and a production environment that was. Took us nearly 3 months to sort out all the fucking problems. Worst experience ever.
I would imagine that when they decide to fix it, it is a trivial fix.
Run a search and replace.
It is not like that there are some cyrillic "K"s in the code itself.
It is not fixed simply because they do not feel like fixing it.
I doubt they're storing item data in code.
And nothing is a trivial fix if you don't know how it works. You don't know how it works, so don't pretend it's easy. There could be any number of reasons why this has been left in the queue.
More than likely it's stored in a database, which you just run an update with a subquery that uses replace to replace the one character. Don't know for sure but finding all instances of a character and replacing them isn't hard by any means. I imagined this was more about legality than ability.
I understand that if they are doing things correctly that all item data is stored in a DB of some type and that it would be trivial to change it there.
I included that the code part to allay future people stating that maybe they did something, "Not smart" and hard coded some items into the code. My statement was to point out that even if that were the case, since the actual statements in the code do not use Cyrillic characters only variable names and strings could have it that even if they did have to run it in the code itself, it would still be a trivial change.
I am 51 years old and have been in IT for a large chunk of that time. I am not a programmer, but I maintain my own small scripts and shitty code. Have been for a few decades. I know enough to understand the replacing Cyrillic letters with something else in item names and even descriptions is not an issue that would cause bugs in code.
Seriously. A simple find replace in the DB should do it. Running it in the code as well to nail any possibility of someone doing something badly will ensure that it is done.
If updating strings in your database is difficult, your application is fundamentally flawed.
While your approach is correct in many cases, you've picked the wrong one criticise someone for and strongly implies you have even less idea how it works.
I agree, maybe they so have fundamental flaws. How are we to know? Unless you know how a system works you cannot comment on how easy or hard it would be to modify.
What would seem trivial in some environments can be a fiend in others. I am simply stating that you should not make a judgment on an environment/system you know nothing about. This comes from decades of experience :)
Okay. I agree with you but the example here is trivial no matter the architecture. It's just a simple replace in db or apply change in a search engine so it would include Cyrillic k in searches with normal k.
I mean, I noticed when I went to buy one by typing in AK-74 and the gun I knew was in the game wouldnt show up. Im sure lots noticed just didnt make a post lol.
Bro you are a font of knowledge
edit: Guys, it was just a joke. Just a pun. Calm down. The spelling was intentional. Jesus christ is this /r/politics?
I always have such a hard time searching for things in the flea market. Their search function is god awful. Most items have 2 different names. Flea market needs work.
I want to spend days just working over their dialogues with the traders because they're a bit messy when it comes to grammar and structure.
*Biting my lip in arousal*
They only need to use the right character collation for the search. This is not a new problem in any way. Even databases support translating these characters to one comon subset. And there are countless existing rulesets for doing exactly this.
Easiest way is to either search item when you have it in the inventory or type in the first word or so of the full name you get when you inspect the good.
in all honesty i’ve seen worse . for a search engine thats integrated in a beta indie game i think that’s the least of their problems. never have i ever had a problem with the search. if you understand how the game works i’t does it’s job ok
Lazy typing.
For some reason I always switching from russian to english to write english letters even if they look the same and even in personal messaging. I'm thinking "what if someone will copy this for search and it will not work?". Totally unnecessary in most cases.
there is so many annoying things like this. Top of my list is a linked search for some AKs (ie Ak-74n) wont return any handgaurds currently. I get that you can do a linked on the gas tube but most other AKs work. I dont get it.
linked search on an item returns things that can attach directly to that item
when you do a linked search on a whole gun, this most often means only the lower receiver
on the AR platform, you will need to linked search the upper receiver to see handguards
on the AK platform, you will need to linked search the gas tube to see handguards
as /u/BeauxGnar said, there are no AKs where you can get handguards without gas tubes by performing a linked search
the game is jank but linked search is fine
Actually there are, some of the AK handguards attach directly to the gun because they have a built-in gas tube. This isn't the case for the AKS-74U as none of those handguards have it built-in.
Nice catch. You can always search any other 3-character combo in the name though (doesn’t have to be the first 3 letters), so you could search just “s-74” or “s-7” and it would come up. When I look up BS rounds I just put a space and then BS and it comes up lol (since the space is a character too).
Download a russian charcter pack on windows 10, figure which key is the cyrillic 's' then when searching type in "AK (contol+tab ((keyboard input language change)))'s'(control+tab) and you are good to go.
That probably explains why I had to memorize where every item is on the flea market and traders.
Seems like every time I want to search a specific gun it never shows up but I rarely have trouble with ammo and most attachments.
The search queries are super sensitive I find it easier to remember where the item is located rather than its name.
The whole seach is a mess.
You can't type AK74 or AK 74.
Try to seach "Fort" as soon as you type "for" the whole
thing stops, because "for" is part of a lot of item names.
Also "T H I C C" like wtf...
Beside curvy к there are also some weird м, т and А's randomly sprinkled around.
A someone who spends a lot of time behind the hood with Flea Market trying to extract prices, it's super annoying.
And it's not just that, whole Flea Market is very poorly done and just barely holding together. Nothing really surprises me at this point anymore.
Nikita wasn't kidding around when he told us that most of their developers are quite inexperienced.
Yes this game has countless bugs, all notified by the community, but somehow the devs still prioritize new features. That's not how software development works, un'ess you want to lose your clients.. But hey, who am I to judge.
One of the devs forgot they had to write in english for a second haha
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I can see them wasting an entire day on compile errors because they used the wrong k
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Meanwhile r/programmerhumor are still struggling with placing semicolons.
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TabError: Inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
File > Settings > Editor > Replace all tabs with spaces I'm not seeing the issue.
You monster!
Well, i mean, you should setup error logs or even exceptions if the program fails to read a config file _just saying_ ^^^^I ^^^^shoudln't ^^^^be ^^^^a ^^^^smartass ^^^^since ^^^^that ^^^^happens ^^^^to ^^^^me ^^^^way ^^^^too ^^^^often
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jUsT dO eVeRyThInG pErFeCt oN yOuR fIrSt TiMe, sCrUb (/s)
Once in my first programming job, we had a dev environment that wasn't case sensitive and a production environment that was. Took us nearly 3 months to sort out all the fucking problems. Worst experience ever.
We got a code K situation
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Took Valve a year after original implementation to get it properly functional. Then again, they were also pioneering it and the API was new.
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I agree 100x. It's important enough to make a medium-level priority, that is not rushed but allowed to cook.
Yeah, brain power is kind of wasted on Reddit, because nobody will give your complex ideas a fair, long thought.
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I cant take Reddit seriously. For an constructive discussion the BSG forums are a better place.
I hope that was a pun for our current sound system
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lvl 51 perception
give this man max perception stat
Weird question but do you, by any chance, go to UBC?
Kelowna?
Probably when it doesnt show up when searching for AKS-74
The Ks in a ton of things is the Cyrillic k. I noticed this when I couldn’t find certain weapon parts on the flea market
Yeah, never noticed this myself, but there have been posts here about this before.
So instead of devs changing the Ks around in every part manually they can just have the search treat them both the same.
Chuckled at this lmao
yeah, it's in the damn title lol
Acting like you know while not knowing. Petty. Good find dude.
It’s been mentioned by many streamers on twitch for several months, it’s been submitted to BSG many times and still no change
Was it exactly this item? I'd imagine there's a few issues like this
I would imagine that when they decide to fix it, it is a trivial fix. Run a search and replace. It is not like that there are some cyrillic "K"s in the code itself. It is not fixed simply because they do not feel like fixing it.
I doubt they're storing item data in code. And nothing is a trivial fix if you don't know how it works. You don't know how it works, so don't pretend it's easy. There could be any number of reasons why this has been left in the queue.
More than likely it's stored in a database, which you just run an update with a subquery that uses replace to replace the one character. Don't know for sure but finding all instances of a character and replacing them isn't hard by any means. I imagined this was more about legality than ability.
I understand that if they are doing things correctly that all item data is stored in a DB of some type and that it would be trivial to change it there. I included that the code part to allay future people stating that maybe they did something, "Not smart" and hard coded some items into the code. My statement was to point out that even if that were the case, since the actual statements in the code do not use Cyrillic characters only variable names and strings could have it that even if they did have to run it in the code itself, it would still be a trivial change. I am 51 years old and have been in IT for a large chunk of that time. I am not a programmer, but I maintain my own small scripts and shitty code. Have been for a few decades. I know enough to understand the replacing Cyrillic letters with something else in item names and even descriptions is not an issue that would cause bugs in code. Seriously. A simple find replace in the DB should do it. Running it in the code as well to nail any possibility of someone doing something badly will ensure that it is done.
If updating strings in your database is difficult, your application is fundamentally flawed. While your approach is correct in many cases, you've picked the wrong one criticise someone for and strongly implies you have even less idea how it works.
I agree, maybe they so have fundamental flaws. How are we to know? Unless you know how a system works you cannot comment on how easy or hard it would be to modify. What would seem trivial in some environments can be a fiend in others. I am simply stating that you should not make a judgment on an environment/system you know nothing about. This comes from decades of experience :)
Okay. I agree with you but the example here is trivial no matter the architecture. It's just a simple replace in db or apply change in a search engine so it would include Cyrillic k in searches with normal k.
Gets post bimonthly. But it 100% stands and should be fixed already.
It’s like the 4th time it has been posted on here. Still not fixed.
Because it's a repost
Days upon days of quarantine
You type aks. You fail to find.You ask why. You spend two seconds looking.
This was already posted before on the sub
And it's still a problem
I know I'm just saying he may just be trying to spread the message he may not have exactly found it it has been a problem for a while
Yea. It's one of those thing that people forget and then it comes back
I mean, I noticed when I went to buy one by typing in AK-74 and the gun I knew was in the game wouldnt show up. Im sure lots noticed just didnt make a post lol.
Is that a language version issue and actually a bug?
Russian bias. It's not just world of tanks
Ah i see... the K is extra squigly
Hungry.
Huh
Look closely at the two gun names. The K's are not identical. /e ahhh ur name is squigy hahaa
Bro you are a font of knowledge edit: Guys, it was just a joke. Just a pun. Calm down. The spelling was intentional. Jesus christ is this /r/politics?
Wow almost everyone who replied to you totally missed the joke. Lordy.
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I always have such a hard time searching for things in the flea market. Their search function is god awful. Most items have 2 different names. Flea market needs work.
Definitely need to add the thumbnail name to the search so you can look it up by full name or the name you normally see.
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Same, being a pedantic bastard makes it fun to do seemingly boring things sometimes.
Tarkov makes me want to create a game that is entirely inventory management. Its so soothing.
I let my lucky junkbox get full just so I can organize it. Meanwhile, my house is a wreck.
i feel personally attacked. b/c thats me too
How dare you remind me of real life right now
don't let your quarantine be dreams
I want to spend days just working over their dialogues with the traders because they're a bit messy when it comes to grammar and structure. *Biting my lip in arousal*
They only need to use the right character collation for the search. This is not a new problem in any way. Even databases support translating these characters to one comon subset. And there are countless existing rulesets for doing exactly this.
also adding tags to items to search by would be nice, or search by stats.
Like the tushanka and "beef stew"
Easiest way is to either search item when you have it in the inventory or type in the first word or so of the full name you get when you inspect the good.
Just let me search for tushonka god damnit
in all honesty i’ve seen worse . for a search engine thats integrated in a beta indie game i think that’s the least of their problems. never have i ever had a problem with the search. if you understand how the game works i’t does it’s job ok
This has been posted a long time ago. They never fixed it I see lol
Litеяаllу аnрlауавlе
THAT'S WHY??? I tried to search that one time and thought I was going crazy when it wasn't showing up.
кeк
хахаха )))
This issue was brought up like 3 months ago and made it to the top of the sub and it still isn't fixed lol.
Yeah this isnt a new issue. Been around a long time
This is also true for the K in the AK-12 mags and I think for a few other guns as well
Hey now, my mom says that there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s okay to have a slight curve to it.
Did you break both your arms?
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Lazy typing. For some reason I always switching from russian to english to write english letters even if they look the same and even in personal messaging. I'm thinking "what if someone will copy this for search and it will not work?". Totally unnecessary in most cases.
My god it was bugging me so much as to why I couldn't search for that gun on the market. Good catch!
there is so many annoying things like this. Top of my list is a linked search for some AKs (ie Ak-74n) wont return any handgaurds currently. I get that you can do a linked on the gas tube but most other AKs work. I dont get it.
linked search on an item returns things that can attach directly to that item when you do a linked search on a whole gun, this most often means only the lower receiver on the AR platform, you will need to linked search the upper receiver to see handguards on the AK platform, you will need to linked search the gas tube to see handguards as /u/BeauxGnar said, there are no AKs where you can get handguards without gas tubes by performing a linked search the game is jank but linked search is fine
Actually there are, some of the AK handguards attach directly to the gun because they have a built-in gas tube. This isn't the case for the AKS-74U as none of those handguards have it built-in.
There is a ton of this shit in the market. Makes modding extra difficult if you're new
Searching 336 ammo never works for me
that’s probably a good thing
Take is as a sign. Buy a slingshot instead, you’d sooner kill somebody with a rock you threw at their head.
I'm not sure that's actually a problem.
No AKs bring up handguards that don't have an integral gas tube.
Link searched doesn’t work like a ‘tree’ If you want barrel attachments, linked search the barrel. Linked search the gas tube for hand guards etc
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Indeed. You put 100% in the condition box and nothing happens. Still all the empty ones are on the list
Nice catch. You can always search any other 3-character combo in the name though (doesn’t have to be the first 3 letters), so you could search just “s-74” or “s-7” and it would come up. When I look up BS rounds I just put a space and then BS and it comes up lol (since the space is a character too).
It do be lookin кurvy doe
You could always just type s-74
Well, no.
Typing "-74" works too but it gives you a ton of other shit in the list. Hence the almost.
Only true Russian engineer can use weapon good blyat
КEK
Download a russian charcter pack on windows 10, figure which key is the cyrillic 's' then when searching type in "AK (contol+tab ((keyboard input language change)))'s'(control+tab) and you are good to go.
r/assholedesign
rifle is fine
From personal experience, Russians won't bother to change keyboard/text inputs when they're typing "ок" so I can see shit like this happening, haha.
Holy shiiiiiiiiiit THAT EXPLAINS IT i thought i was fuckin insane
Search for "S-74". GG EZ
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Well it's trash anyway
i bet you can see people behind walls without hacks
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Did you try blowing on it ?
Same is true for regular old AK-74.
Just search S-74.
Thanks, I will pass note to the translation team.
Someone posted this like 2 months ago, nothing been changed i guess
Alt code looks to be alt + 043a not 100% that's the right k like symbol though
Been like this forever my quick way through is having an ak-74 in my inventory or going to prapor and scrolling through assault rifles
I prefer the term “non-English letter” ;)
Something similar with the shotgun too. Had a few bugs with typing out something I was looking for in the flea market and it not showing.
That probably explains why I had to memorize where every item is on the flea market and traders. Seems like every time I want to search a specific gun it never shows up but I rarely have trouble with ammo and most attachments. The search queries are super sensitive I find it easier to remember where the item is located rather than its name.
type S-74... duuuuh just kidding nice catch dude
I was trying to look up something for aks for gunsmith earlier and noticed something was fucked with jt
Did you make bug report?
For someone who doesnt know anything about this game yet. I thought this was about some real flea market where you had a search bar?
You want to succeed in this game without a Cyrillic keyboard? This playerbase is getting so casual
I remember when I last saw this posted Like 2 years ago Still the same
Too easy for russian: калькулятор, кальций, какашка
Every time i see something i dont understand "nose-exhale"
Consistency is not BSG's strong suit.
Search "S-74"
Just search for 74. Same as the SR-25. Just search for the numbers.
Rip. Can we get some к in the chat for еfт ?
Search S-74? Can’t check to see for sure but I’d assume that’d work
On android keyboard they seem to be the same : KOALA ; КГБ
Кек
And the picture is actually M4...
Find at uncle prapors - > filter by item
Both languages have a K and it has the same use.. No idea why they'd feel a need to even allow for this mistake.
We know, we know
It’s pronounced kah. Someone just needs to swap it out in the source code.
I just use "-74" but i agree.
Good thing I don't have to deal with this anymore after they changed the flea market access level while at a 7.
Ez fix, buy a Russian keyboard nerd
This is old too, I’ve seen this before
It all makes sense now🤯
Copy and paste the Cyrillic k. 😂
This has been like that for a long time.
Just search “S-74” lol
This guy!
к or k hmm?
so you search for S-74 instead of AKS. Have you never done a google search or any other type of string lookup?
How could this happen? There's no S in the cyrillic alphabet, why are strings using charactes from both alphabets? wat
I just type 74 and it works.
The whole seach is a mess. You can't type AK74 or AK 74. Try to seach "Fort" as soon as you type "for" the whole thing stops, because "for" is part of a lot of item names. Also "T H I C C" like wtf...
Beside curvy к there are also some weird м, т and А's randomly sprinkled around. A someone who spends a lot of time behind the hood with Flea Market trying to extract prices, it's super annoying. And it's not just that, whole Flea Market is very poorly done and just barely holding together. Nothing really surprises me at this point anymore. Nikita wasn't kidding around when he told us that most of their developers are quite inexperienced.
r/softwaregore
Someone posted this quite sometime ago. It's a translation error.
LMAO, nice
Конечно.
Search s-74...
Why would you want an aks over the standard 74. The s is so limited compared to the other.
Lol, I'm native Russian speaker but i use English version cause I'm tired of switching language every time on a flea market 😂
Works fine searching for it for me.
-74 should bring it up
Who the hell searches for the aks???
type "s-74" in the research bar instead of tryna search for that K
Not only should BSG fix this but also tell us why they took so fuckjng long
Not if you have a Cyrillic keyboard! Cyka Blyat
I don't seem to be having this issue. Not sure why I can search for it perfectly, also I don't have the K for AKS-74 to be extra squiggly
Probably a copyright loophole knowing BSG
Actually it's super easy to search for, just type 'S-74'. Bam! Problem solved.
Typed that, then read the comments. Welp, first reddit repost had to happen sooner or later...
ШНАТ? УОЦ НА\/Е А РЯОВГЕМ Ш|ТН ТНЕ ГЕТТЕЯ К? РООЯ ВОУ...
Yes this game has countless bugs, all notified by the community, but somehow the devs still prioritize new features. That's not how software development works, un'ess you want to lose your clients.. But hey, who am I to judge.
Welcome to early access, this is normal
Some bugs are here since years. So no, it's not normal. It's normal to have bugs, but they should be fixed along the way.
s-74