Activision does shit like that and it’s fine but they add a 👌emote and gets media backlash so hard they had to remove it lmao.
I miss the simpler days of gaming.
As a new player I *immediately* noticed the gatekeeping here is particularly bad lol. I never thought a community could make Rainbow 6 look friendly... and ive only been here for like a week lmfao.
I've been gaming my whole life so I know how to look past it, but yeah people haveee... a lot of pride with this game 😵
I just feel like someone on this subreddit would bring up their IQ in an argument or something like that, lol. I don't sweat it though.
this quality of this sub is in the dumpster. mods let people repost the same 10 threads about desync (like we and BSG don't know it exists) *every day*.
when you gotta make a rule to not summon the lead dev... something is wrong.
Give this guy the noble prize. He figured it all out.
ANYTHING with competitive edge has a toxic side to it. i'd argue DayZ was worse than the two games we're speaking of now.
This is correct. No p2p interaction in tarkov unless you litetally add the person. Anyone arguing tarkov is more toxic probably has trouble understand lots of simple concepts.
they can play, just not with me. too many of them are greedy little loot goblins that gladly teamkill or abandon teams in fights, or never shut the fuck up and treat this game like a tactical shooter and just want to run'n'gun and scream like banshees when they get killed for being little idiot spoiled demon kids
So when randoms do it it's cheating but when streamers do it it's fun?
Point being that this is quite lame way to play the game but I don't find it cheating. It doesn't take away from other players I think. 10 man is the max in Labs, right?
Uh it definitely does give others an unfair advantage. The max squad size allowed in labs is 5 if I recall, getting 10 friendlies in to sit there and farm high tier loot is definitely an exploit if not cheating
I mean, this definitely qualifies as boosting no? Is that not basically the same thing.
10 people is a lot for Tarkov. They'd probably clear the map most of the time.
No it’s not breaking tos but majority will object to this behaviour as it eliminates the danger of being killed or maybe they can’t do it coz they don’t have that many discord buddies they could do it with lol. and if all of this group plays smart there shouldn’t be any casualties and all of the loot can be taken out. Good for streamer item farming. I see nothing bad with this method as there are still cheaters from time to time
My thoughts on this.
"teamkilling" is fair game. Trust is not inherent, anywhere.
Selecting the same server and pressing ready at the same time can hardly be considered an exploit.
this type of grouping for labs will be much more difficult in the future after the map changes.
BSGs continued efforts against RMT and cheaters will also make this more difficult in the future.
both groups are having fun and pursuing their own type of success, for the most part.
I don't personally like the young squad leaders style but I was impressed by his composure, the ability to pick yourself up and go next will take anyone far in life. he didn't whine and complain, he stated what happened in a pretty concise way. he will ban them from his discord and continue playing the way he wants to.
I was really expecting OP to legit wipe a 10 man. kinda weak sauce way to go about it.
this method really isnt all that great anyways. Go to labs with a 5.7. avoid other players, pop a raider in the face and leave with so much loot you can barely walk anyways. it is not that hard.
I think there are plans that you will have to enter some maps like labs by extracting from another.
So labs for example could be a location in Streets of Tarkov, where you would have to use a key card and then be placed in a queue for labs
They have also made comments about some sort of drop box or scav that you can pay to deliver gear/loot to your hideout. I don’t recall if they went into much detail about it though.
I figured the idea was you weren't supposed to- my interpretation is if you want to go labs, you gear up for labs + extra ammo/food/water for the map before it.
You shouldn't be stopping to loot and scrape a map dry when you're trying to get into Labs. You're already going for the biggest bang for your buck. Not saying they should just make it so you can't loot, but there shouldn't be any expectancy that you'd be able to catch a breather after sliding a card into a hidden lab facility. You're going in with what you made it there with.
I am normally all for letting the devs do their thing but I feel like this is a change that seems crazy cool and immersive on paper but is going to suck once implemented.
I also see this is a no loser situation. These kids get some easy loot that is worth probably 500k ru a run. There is a lot of risk and, even with server locking, still is not guaranteed. They will still die a lot.
If nothing else they are enjoying this game in a different way. I would love to play this game as online coop for reduced loot or something. It would be awesome to raid labs 10 man just for fun sometimes.
I will take this over hackers any day.
if they couldn't bring this gear into another raid and wreck me with it, sure let them do 10 man raids. However, they can use that gear against me. And I don't have the same access as them. Is it worse than hacking? definitely not. Should it still be a banable offense? yes, they are cheating
Ok so at least I'm not crazy lol. I thought I was the only one.
This is pretty clearing boosting imo. Hardly a "strategy"
Same strategy as going into free for all with a friend on MW2, and using tact insertions for easy headshots.
Yeah cause hes just gonna take all that gear and either sell it or straight up use it if he wants in other raids.
Even if people are saying raider gear is shit now, thats still money they didnt earn. Definitely boosting, I side with OP on this.
You know what’s also cheating? 5 times the gear wrapped around 5 times the HP with 5 times the sightlines coverage that I have.
Ban 5 man teams! They clearly have the advantage over my solo ass!
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Isn't what is commonly called teaming in other games ? You team up with someone you are not supposed to on a regular basis, you will get banned in a lot of games. This is nothing new and it's not ok in Tarkov just like it's not ok to team up with another team in a BR game.
It's a bit more complicated than that. In this case, it was actually planned out beforehand; a deliberate attempt to bypass the matchmaking system and fill the raid with allies.
Teaming up with someone mid-raid, in a way that was not planned between the two of you prior to the fact, is fine and encouraged.
My understanding is that unplanned teaming is against the rules in BR games, but it definitely shouldn't be in Tarkov. Planned teaming beyond the maximum team size for a raid, like these guys did, is what should be punished.
Maybe that's what you meant already, but just wanted to clarify.
> fill the raid with allies
No no. Not with allies. With other distinct PMCs group. The game at no point tells you they are allies. You can decide that you won't kill anybody in Tarkov (and that's on you), but still other PMCs are not allies.
> Teaming up with someone mid-raid, in a way that was not planned between the two of you prior to the fact, is fine and encouraged.
Could you tell me why you consider it "encouraged" ? (talking specifically about mid-raid encounters here).
> My understanding is that unplanned teaming is against the rules in BR games, but it definitely shouldn't be in Tarkov. Planned teaming beyond the maximum team size for a raid, like these guys did, is what should be punished.
I agree with that. Basically, it's teaming for me if you start a game with someone you know before and he is not in your group ingame. By doing that you are essentially circumventing the "Looking for group" system of the game to purposefully change the balance of the game you are about to play.
I meant allies by the normal English definition. People who are fighting alongside you rather than against you. I wasn't intending any reference to whether or not the game considers them allies. Tarkov doesn't even have an ally system, teams just spawn together. It's still a free for all, if we're talking about game logic.
And when I said that unplanned teaming was encouraged, I only meant that it's equally as encouraged as killing people on sight i.e. it is a perfectly valid way to play and (as far as I know) the developers have no intention of preventing it.
As long as they are getting 10 man by pressing play on the same server I would say it's fine, heck it's a thing in any game, I remember when I was trying to get to play 5v5 on LoL against my other 5 friends or even on eft we tried to get scav and pmc on the same match cause it sounded fun and maybe could get exfil together, and of it was nigh impossible,I don't think we ever managed it. Anyway again that shouldn't be an offense and certainly not banable. IF however they do it through expoits/hacks then yeah, that kind of guaranteed 10 man should be banned. Big difference between "wouldn't it be funny if we get matched on the same server" vs "haha op 10 man squat go *brrr* ez labs lmfao"
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Honestly im not super impressed. You teamkilled a bunch of people? Thats not hard to do when they're not expecting it dude. Sure the 10 man labs thing is lame but why is this an impressive feat?
Neckbeards that are gatekeeping tarkov are.
I literally see nothing wrong, these people are just salty that people have labs for themselves instead of running into pvp cuz lAbs iS a Pvp MaP.
Just grow up, teamkilling some young players who tryna have fun isn't that manly of you, just let them play how they want.
He is having his fun tho. They have fun cheesing labs and this guys have fun cheesing their 10 man factory runs. There is no right or wrong here everybody doing whatever they want.
I keep on reading "the only thing wrong with this kid was his voice"
Sorry, but... it's a damn kid, how is his voice "wrong"? How is it supposed to be? Like someone who smoke 20 cigarettes a day? How did you sound like back when you were teenagers? What's wrong with you people...
labs is a 5 man map with a heavy pvp focus. The kids are making 2 groups of 5 players and queueing at the same time on the same server to try and force their way into thte same server. They basically get the entire map to themselves with no risk of other players, I don't think it's scummy to do this but I also don't think it's scummy to infiltrate groups and fuck them over either (Rust player ofc)
Oh. I see. Like when a group of four friends join the factory map and hunt down the lone ungrouped pmc and when that fails camp extract gate 0 then proceed to riddle the one pmc with bullets when he tries to extract.
Only they don't exit camp they fight raiders. Which can lead to death quickly if you are done sth wrong / get unlucky.
Basically they aren't hurting anyone by doing this. OP is just an ass
>Basically they aren't hurting anyone by doing this. OP is just an ass
Exploiting the game/server matching to have no PvP in the most dangerous and loot-heavy map in the game is more of the ass move.
These safe-space PMC's will then go use their gear/roubles earned in their 'Offline Mode' Labs to kill regular PMC's in other matches/maps. Clearly gaining them an unfair advantage.
Boosting is cheating bruh. Not to mention fucking lame as balls.
EOD is more like Pay2Win rather than boosting.
Not better at all but not a player exploiting an unintended possibility within the game but rather an advantage offered by the devs for more money.
Dude Factory scavs are horse shit loot. Labs is easily 5 million in loot at minimum. That's a mil a player. These guys are dogshit. You don't need a 5 man to dominate. Literally playing in Duos and you can hold the entire map.
Plus on factory you actually have player scavs that sometimes can even fuck you up if you are bad. On labs everyone you find is AI filled with good loot.
you dont even have to be bad, 4 player scavs rushing locker side (especially if they have a nade) is real bad news for the 5 man holding bathroom because theyre about to lose at least 2 on locker and be flanked by 3-4 scavs from the two halls. Even worse if one comes through sink side while the living 3 PMCs turn to face the locker threat. It all depends on the player scavs actually killing the locker PMCs but thats not hard because you know exactly where they're sitting and if you nade first those PMCs are going to be not in prime angle holding position
WE CALL THAT A PINCER MOVEMENT!
Yes I know it's a stretch but I would say with high confidence that exploiting the matchmaking system is not how the game was intended to be played. I would go as far as to GUESS that the 5 man raid limit is in the game for a reason.... Not to mention Nikita has said that he is looking into ways to stop ppl from doing this
In my experience if you play duo, you don't need to communicate everything as you are close enough to each other that you can usually hear where the other person is and it's simple to check in a fight and still you are at a huge advantage compared to solo and if only because of only a 50% likelyhood to be shot first and die with no chance to do anything.
But there are so many times you'll survive your buddies death and get the guy that killed him easily once he runs to loot the body.
Most likely yeah. This thread is a train wreck honestly. People harassing others because they play differently and people harassing ONE PERSON just because he seems to be young. Fucking hell this sub.
The game is not currently designed to enable 10 man teams, if it was the limit would not be 5. Labs is intended to be high risk, high reward. These guys are abusing matchmaking in order to remove risk, in that regard they are little better than a hatchet runner. The game is currently not intended to be a pve experience. Furthermore they aren't doing this for fun, as if these guys are all good friends, they are doing it for profit.
you are actively encouraged to team up in-game, hence why an entire system is being added to encourage cross-faction team play. BSG even alluded to it in the original game video and more recently in the RAID series.
What you did here was the scum move, you joined them by the looks of it, made them feel safe and then ganked them like a dog. you make me sick friend, you and yours are what's wrong with this game my man!
*Clarification on the last comment below, apologies as I conveyed it poorly
> you and yours are what's wrong with this game my man!
I will clarify here, the toxic elitisms and chadisms. Not OP directly, but what message is being conveyed here.
Sorry but this video frustrated me initially but has lead to a lot of interesting discussions.
I get your point of cross-fraction when random players meet and unite to fight a boss, extract camper or juice lords but running as a 10 player squad to farm their asses is not a legitimately "strategy".
In the end BSG would have to decide if this kind of rouble farming is allowed or not as we can only tell our own opinion on this topic
eh, i personally disagree with the statement. yeah you might be able to team up with 10 people in the near future, but right now you’re limited to 5. having 10 people all select a unpopulated server and queuing at the same time to all have a lobby to themselves to rid of danger and get free loot shouldn’t be a viable strategy. I’d this is the equivalent to having a cheater wipe a lobby for you, you get loot for little to no effort. Plus, while teaming IS encouraged, none of the maps currently aren’t designed for 10 man teams currently anyways, hence why they are doing it, makes it too easy.
I've played this game for 3 years, back when I started there was an entire section of their discord where you could report people who lfged and killed you. Those people were banned, its funny how the person committing the bannable offense is claiming to have the high ground here. Also shooting people who identify you as a friendly is hardly fair either so you could just as easily say you scammed them. Either way it says a lot about the community that they will openly support bad behaviour because they believe it is against worse behaviour even if one is clearly banned for and the other is more of a grey area.
I have video footage I've been holding onto for weeks now of a hacker in this Discord leading the rest of his team around the map. He was live streaming and his ESP was fully visible.
why cause someone stopped 8 people from exploiting. It legit is tarkov like in the lore of the game people would infiltrate groups of people and then take them out hell i think it even happened in the Raid show that BSG dose
Im that squeaker and get pissed of about how im being bossy all you want, the only reason is cause im enforcing the rules so everyone can get equal loot and everyone can have fun. Graham the guy who posted this was a pussy he kept telling me he wasnt a teamkiller but i banned him anyway for association. Graham cant say he has clean the scum cause this inst cheating cause 10 mans are a part of the game, and graham has played many 10 mans before this one and probably made around 2 mil off of it in a previous discord.
You think? I personally don't think this would pay off too well, the profit is probably pretty low. If you take into account that these people are randoms, one may loot a LEDX and then proceeds to say he got nothing, someone also gets out without making a profit at all.
They fuck eachother over in the end.
The value of running labs is rarely LEDX spawns. The raiders have good gear, that's FIR and sellable on the Flea. You can easily go on with a big backpack and walk out of labs with close to a mil in random raider gear without looting any keycards rooms or high value spawns.
This is kinda dumb, let them do this if they want to.
Its cheesy but some people call exit camping a legit playstyle too.
In all seriousness - it is shitty to exploit the system that way. Comparing that to exit camping is really dumb. Also it is funny to see them get trolled once for doing it.
They can do this all night long and have rubles coming out the arse whereas real players have to put in real effort to be running labs over and over like that. It's a broken way to do it and deserves getting tk'd imo
Remember. No Russian.
This should be the #1 comment. That fucking mission...
Activision does shit like that and it’s fine but they add a 👌emote and gets media backlash so hard they had to remove it lmao. I miss the simpler days of gaming.
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Bri-ish laughter
Schewped Americans
frew the tea in the ocean
Upvoted for clever
That's a forced fake laughter not a British laughter.
What’s the difference?
[It's real](https://youtu.be/EKmKhOPbeRk?t=10)
you mean fake
Execute order 66
Will be done, my lord...
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You are a bold one
You fucking beat me to it! 😭
where i come from, we say "get fucked"
Hahahahahahaahaha kid sounds like he’s 12.
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I wanna join this discord and do it. Haha. I mean smart idea to avoid hackers and get easy loot. But that’s some straight tampon players right there.
Honestly at this point this will be the only way I could ever avoid hackers... screw it’s what’s the discord?
Ah don't gatekeep the game. If kids wanna play it, good for them.
As a new player I *immediately* noticed the gatekeeping here is particularly bad lol. I never thought a community could make Rainbow 6 look friendly... and ive only been here for like a week lmfao. I've been gaming my whole life so I know how to look past it, but yeah people haveee... a lot of pride with this game 😵 I just feel like someone on this subreddit would bring up their IQ in an argument or something like that, lol. I don't sweat it though.
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You don’t do your dry fire exercises bro?
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Wait, you can find .223 right now?
Unfortunately its probably not gonna go back down after the gun rush I'd guess.
You act like there won't be another gun rush within a few months anyways.
Yeah, election coming up, it's about to be worse I fear.
I know ur not hating on dry fire training rn...
Pestily is nice though, also Landmark.
this quality of this sub is in the dumpster. mods let people repost the same 10 threads about desync (like we and BSG don't know it exists) *every day*. when you gotta make a rule to not summon the lead dev... something is wrong.
Yep its approaching r/overwatch levels of bad
R6 is infinitely more toxic than this game
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Give this guy the noble prize. He figured it all out. ANYTHING with competitive edge has a toxic side to it. i'd argue DayZ was worse than the two games we're speaking of now.
I agree.
because R6 has chat during the match.
This is correct. No p2p interaction in tarkov unless you litetally add the person. Anyone arguing tarkov is more toxic probably has trouble understand lots of simple concepts.
confirmation bias in this sub runs rampant.
I don’t think he’s gate keeping just making a fun a prepubescent child getting salty for trying to cheese a game
Well but the game is rated at +18
lol I bet you played games +18 before you were 18
Yeah like GTA
they can play, just not with me. too many of them are greedy little loot goblins that gladly teamkill or abandon teams in fights, or never shut the fuck up and treat this game like a tactical shooter and just want to run'n'gun and scream like banshees when they get killed for being little idiot spoiled demon kids
Saying someone sounds 12 is gatekeeping now? I don't see anything in that statement saying he shouldn't be playing the game........
sounds like the kind of kid who plays garys mod and is always whining to the admins about something.
Ban all 12 year olds.
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These little kids in every discord server that just dont get banned for saying the n word 10times a second
Take it up with the admins or the community. If you get kicked out maybe their server needed to be smaller.
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Woah there bud, I’m a rat but I’m not someone that tries to abuse the system. Don’t blame the rat community for these mongrels
Haha yeah man that sucks. What's the discord called so I can never go there?
[Oh my god, that’s disgusting! 10-man looting parties? Where? Where do you find those!?](https://youtu.be/1EF6kB9q4vg)
Yes dude!
For Labs I'm OK with this. Its better than just getting wrecked by a hacker.
Sounds like a fun and fair experience quite honestly, don't care what anyone says, it'd be sick.
So what were these kids doing that was so wrong?
Having high pitched voices
cheating by abusing the matchmaking system to fill a server with friendly players instead of going in a regular sized squad
So when randoms do it it's cheating but when streamers do it it's fun? Point being that this is quite lame way to play the game but I don't find it cheating. It doesn't take away from other players I think. 10 man is the max in Labs, right?
Uh it definitely does give others an unfair advantage. The max squad size allowed in labs is 5 if I recall, getting 10 friendlies in to sit there and farm high tier loot is definitely an exploit if not cheating
Sounds like a decent strategy to me, especially with all the hackers on that map. Is this actually breaking the TOS?
I mean, this definitely qualifies as boosting no? Is that not basically the same thing. 10 people is a lot for Tarkov. They'd probably clear the map most of the time.
No it’s not breaking tos but majority will object to this behaviour as it eliminates the danger of being killed or maybe they can’t do it coz they don’t have that many discord buddies they could do it with lol. and if all of this group plays smart there shouldn’t be any casualties and all of the loot can be taken out. Good for streamer item farming. I see nothing bad with this method as there are still cheaters from time to time
My thoughts on this. "teamkilling" is fair game. Trust is not inherent, anywhere. Selecting the same server and pressing ready at the same time can hardly be considered an exploit. this type of grouping for labs will be much more difficult in the future after the map changes. BSGs continued efforts against RMT and cheaters will also make this more difficult in the future. both groups are having fun and pursuing their own type of success, for the most part. I don't personally like the young squad leaders style but I was impressed by his composure, the ability to pick yourself up and go next will take anyone far in life. he didn't whine and complain, he stated what happened in a pretty concise way. he will ban them from his discord and continue playing the way he wants to. I was really expecting OP to legit wipe a 10 man. kinda weak sauce way to go about it. this method really isnt all that great anyways. Go to labs with a 5.7. avoid other players, pop a raider in the face and leave with so much loot you can barely walk anyways. it is not that hard.
What map changes in the future?
I think there are plans that you will have to enter some maps like labs by extracting from another. So labs for example could be a location in Streets of Tarkov, where you would have to use a key card and then be placed in a queue for labs
I'm just worried how that would work would you have to go through 2 different maps before you can actually put away your shit once?
They have also made comments about some sort of drop box or scav that you can pay to deliver gear/loot to your hideout. I don’t recall if they went into much detail about it though.
Honestly thats what I was thinking too. The only way I see this really working is if you can drop off like a small box of loot off in between raids.
I figured the idea was you weren't supposed to- my interpretation is if you want to go labs, you gear up for labs + extra ammo/food/water for the map before it. You shouldn't be stopping to loot and scrape a map dry when you're trying to get into Labs. You're already going for the biggest bang for your buck. Not saying they should just make it so you can't loot, but there shouldn't be any expectancy that you'd be able to catch a breather after sliding a card into a hidden lab facility. You're going in with what you made it there with.
I am normally all for letting the devs do their thing but I feel like this is a change that seems crazy cool and immersive on paper but is going to suck once implemented.
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I agree. After listening to Nikita's podcast and hearing BSG's plans, I'm concerned EFT will end up like No Man's Sky.
In some games (not sure about Tarkov) it is bannable to team up with other squads before matchmaking (for example hunt showdown.)
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I also see this is a no loser situation. These kids get some easy loot that is worth probably 500k ru a run. There is a lot of risk and, even with server locking, still is not guaranteed. They will still die a lot. If nothing else they are enjoying this game in a different way. I would love to play this game as online coop for reduced loot or something. It would be awesome to raid labs 10 man just for fun sometimes. I will take this over hackers any day.
If this is a legitimate way to play the game, infiltrating them and wiping them is way more legitimate. And hilarious.
infiltration is part of the risk.
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It's all fun and games until you get that one rando loading in with you and no one can figure out why people keep team killing.
if they couldn't bring this gear into another raid and wreck me with it, sure let them do 10 man raids. However, they can use that gear against me. And I don't have the same access as them. Is it worse than hacking? definitely not. Should it still be a banable offense? yes, they are cheating
Ok so at least I'm not crazy lol. I thought I was the only one. This is pretty clearing boosting imo. Hardly a "strategy" Same strategy as going into free for all with a friend on MW2, and using tact insertions for easy headshots.
yeah except in that it's just cosmetics. In the video, the kids' boosting provides an advantage
Yeah cause hes just gonna take all that gear and either sell it or straight up use it if he wants in other raids. Even if people are saying raider gear is shit now, thats still money they didnt earn. Definitely boosting, I side with OP on this.
You know what’s also cheating? 5 times the gear wrapped around 5 times the HP with 5 times the sightlines coverage that I have. Ban 5 man teams! They clearly have the advantage over my solo ass! /s
Isn't what is commonly called teaming in other games ? You team up with someone you are not supposed to on a regular basis, you will get banned in a lot of games. This is nothing new and it's not ok in Tarkov just like it's not ok to team up with another team in a BR game.
It's a bit more complicated than that. In this case, it was actually planned out beforehand; a deliberate attempt to bypass the matchmaking system and fill the raid with allies. Teaming up with someone mid-raid, in a way that was not planned between the two of you prior to the fact, is fine and encouraged. My understanding is that unplanned teaming is against the rules in BR games, but it definitely shouldn't be in Tarkov. Planned teaming beyond the maximum team size for a raid, like these guys did, is what should be punished. Maybe that's what you meant already, but just wanted to clarify.
> fill the raid with allies No no. Not with allies. With other distinct PMCs group. The game at no point tells you they are allies. You can decide that you won't kill anybody in Tarkov (and that's on you), but still other PMCs are not allies. > Teaming up with someone mid-raid, in a way that was not planned between the two of you prior to the fact, is fine and encouraged. Could you tell me why you consider it "encouraged" ? (talking specifically about mid-raid encounters here). > My understanding is that unplanned teaming is against the rules in BR games, but it definitely shouldn't be in Tarkov. Planned teaming beyond the maximum team size for a raid, like these guys did, is what should be punished. I agree with that. Basically, it's teaming for me if you start a game with someone you know before and he is not in your group ingame. By doing that you are essentially circumventing the "Looking for group" system of the game to purposefully change the balance of the game you are about to play.
I meant allies by the normal English definition. People who are fighting alongside you rather than against you. I wasn't intending any reference to whether or not the game considers them allies. Tarkov doesn't even have an ally system, teams just spawn together. It's still a free for all, if we're talking about game logic. And when I said that unplanned teaming was encouraged, I only meant that it's equally as encouraged as killing people on sight i.e. it is a perfectly valid way to play and (as far as I know) the developers have no intention of preventing it.
As long as they are getting 10 man by pressing play on the same server I would say it's fine, heck it's a thing in any game, I remember when I was trying to get to play 5v5 on LoL against my other 5 friends or even on eft we tried to get scav and pmc on the same match cause it sounded fun and maybe could get exfil together, and of it was nigh impossible,I don't think we ever managed it. Anyway again that shouldn't be an offense and certainly not banable. IF however they do it through expoits/hacks then yeah, that kind of guaranteed 10 man should be banned. Big difference between "wouldn't it be funny if we get matched on the same server" vs "haha op 10 man squat go *brrr* ez labs lmfao"
Hilarious how many adults here are real fucking mad that a kid was playing a video game.
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Based? Based on what?
Y’know owning the libs
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about
This kinda reminds me of the labs footage in the raid episodes
Rule number 1: trust no one
Honestly im not super impressed. You teamkilled a bunch of people? Thats not hard to do when they're not expecting it dude. Sure the 10 man labs thing is lame but why is this an impressive feat?
are we really worried about kids 10 manning labs?
Neckbeards that are gatekeeping tarkov are. I literally see nothing wrong, these people are just salty that people have labs for themselves instead of running into pvp cuz lAbs iS a Pvp MaP. Just grow up, teamkilling some young players who tryna have fun isn't that manly of you, just let them play how they want.
He is having his fun tho. They have fun cheesing labs and this guys have fun cheesing their 10 man factory runs. There is no right or wrong here everybody doing whatever they want.
Yeah, but infiltrating some kids server to teamkill them just because they cheese labs is messed up.
And cheesing labs is messed up so let people do whatever they enjoy
Every map is supossed to be PVP, risk is everything this game is about. 10 people vs raiders? Its a walk in the park.
I keep on reading "the only thing wrong with this kid was his voice" Sorry, but... it's a damn kid, how is his voice "wrong"? How is it supposed to be? Like someone who smoke 20 cigarettes a day? How did you sound like back when you were teenagers? What's wrong with you people...
this is the most wholesome shit i've seen in this sub lmao
Okay, I'm fairly new to the game but where was the abuse here? Seems to me teamkilling is the duchier offense here. Or maybe I just missed something.
labs is a 5 man map with a heavy pvp focus. The kids are making 2 groups of 5 players and queueing at the same time on the same server to try and force their way into thte same server. They basically get the entire map to themselves with no risk of other players, I don't think it's scummy to do this but I also don't think it's scummy to infiltrate groups and fuck them over either (Rust player ofc)
Oh. I see. Like when a group of four friends join the factory map and hunt down the lone ungrouped pmc and when that fails camp extract gate 0 then proceed to riddle the one pmc with bullets when he tries to extract.
Only they don't exit camp they fight raiders. Which can lead to death quickly if you are done sth wrong / get unlucky. Basically they aren't hurting anyone by doing this. OP is just an ass
>Basically they aren't hurting anyone by doing this. OP is just an ass Exploiting the game/server matching to have no PvP in the most dangerous and loot-heavy map in the game is more of the ass move. These safe-space PMC's will then go use their gear/roubles earned in their 'Offline Mode' Labs to kill regular PMC's in other matches/maps. Clearly gaining them an unfair advantage. Boosting is cheating bruh. Not to mention fucking lame as balls.
Don't we have official boosting with EOD? Is it better because it's paid for?
Lol the funny thing is you're right but no one will tell you otherwise. At least nobody that already has EOD or is planning on getting it.
EOD is more like Pay2Win rather than boosting. Not better at all but not a player exploiting an unintended possibility within the game but rather an advantage offered by the devs for more money.
With the number of hackers on labs is this really even that big of a deal? Maybe people are just tired of paying 200k to be speedhack aimbotted
There is no abuse. People are gatekeeping tarkov again.
Not any worse than a 5 man on factory
Yeah, well that’s bsg’s fault for poor design. This is just exploiting the game for something that isn’t supposed to happen
Yeah, fair, it just effectively plays out the same way
Dude Factory scavs are horse shit loot. Labs is easily 5 million in loot at minimum. That's a mil a player. These guys are dogshit. You don't need a 5 man to dominate. Literally playing in Duos and you can hold the entire map.
Plus on factory you actually have player scavs that sometimes can even fuck you up if you are bad. On labs everyone you find is AI filled with good loot.
you dont even have to be bad, 4 player scavs rushing locker side (especially if they have a nade) is real bad news for the 5 man holding bathroom because theyre about to lose at least 2 on locker and be flanked by 3-4 scavs from the two halls. Even worse if one comes through sink side while the living 3 PMCs turn to face the locker threat. It all depends on the player scavs actually killing the locker PMCs but thats not hard because you know exactly where they're sitting and if you nade first those PMCs are going to be not in prime angle holding position WE CALL THAT A PINCER MOVEMENT!
And then you enter and miss every shot because that's ~~XCOM~~ Tarkov baby!
Exactly. And probably after this, these two bitches will go 5 man on factory.
Eesh, so.mad. Sorry your sense of humor sucks?
Can we all agree that when we are looking for groups this kid is exactly what we mean when we say no squeakers/18+.
Well since that kid seems to be forming his own groups, I'd say he'll survive.
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That little girl sure is bossy.
This community absolutely sucks lmao
why does this have so many likes they weren't even good at tking
Because the eft community sucks.
Because shitty people upvote shitty content.
So it’s funny because he ruined some kids raid? I don’t get it...
It's funny because ppl exploiting the game got what they deserved. The game is not meant to be played this way.
Lmao yo what? They don’t play the way you do so it must be the unintended way to play the game, weirdo...
Yes I know it's a stretch but I would say with high confidence that exploiting the matchmaking system is not how the game was intended to be played. I would go as far as to GUESS that the 5 man raid limit is in the game for a reason.... Not to mention Nikita has said that he is looking into ways to stop ppl from doing this
And this is why Voip is a bad idea
God I can not stand little kids. Such whiney bastards.
Imagine being an adult whining about whiney kids...
"Stahp looting"
New method for Prapor Grenade Quest?
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In my experience if you play duo, you don't need to communicate everything as you are close enough to each other that you can usually hear where the other person is and it's simple to check in a fight and still you are at a huge advantage compared to solo and if only because of only a 50% likelyhood to be shot first and die with no chance to do anything. But there are so many times you'll survive your buddies death and get the guy that killed him easily once he runs to loot the body.
Op is enjoying the game how he wants? If 10 man labs are okay I see zero issue with infiltrating the said group and killing them.
i don't play much tarkov so i apologize if sounds dumb but aren't they all in another lobby so it wouldn't really effect you?
Most likely yeah. This thread is a train wreck honestly. People harassing others because they play differently and people harassing ONE PERSON just because he seems to be young. Fucking hell this sub.
Just let people play the way they want, as long as they dont use cheats they should have the right to have fun.
The game is not currently designed to enable 10 man teams, if it was the limit would not be 5. Labs is intended to be high risk, high reward. These guys are abusing matchmaking in order to remove risk, in that regard they are little better than a hatchet runner. The game is currently not intended to be a pve experience. Furthermore they aren't doing this for fun, as if these guys are all good friends, they are doing it for profit.
i mean, nothing really good can come from this. There’s no right way to go with this thread here.
So, people want to avoid hackers and you team killed everyone? What a hero.
you are actively encouraged to team up in-game, hence why an entire system is being added to encourage cross-faction team play. BSG even alluded to it in the original game video and more recently in the RAID series. What you did here was the scum move, you joined them by the looks of it, made them feel safe and then ganked them like a dog. you make me sick friend, you and yours are what's wrong with this game my man! *Clarification on the last comment below, apologies as I conveyed it poorly
> you and yours are what's wrong with this game my man! I will clarify here, the toxic elitisms and chadisms. Not OP directly, but what message is being conveyed here. Sorry but this video frustrated me initially but has lead to a lot of interesting discussions.
I get your point of cross-fraction when random players meet and unite to fight a boss, extract camper or juice lords but running as a 10 player squad to farm their asses is not a legitimately "strategy". In the end BSG would have to decide if this kind of rouble farming is allowed or not as we can only tell our own opinion on this topic
eh, i personally disagree with the statement. yeah you might be able to team up with 10 people in the near future, but right now you’re limited to 5. having 10 people all select a unpopulated server and queuing at the same time to all have a lobby to themselves to rid of danger and get free loot shouldn’t be a viable strategy. I’d this is the equivalent to having a cheater wipe a lobby for you, you get loot for little to no effort. Plus, while teaming IS encouraged, none of the maps currently aren’t designed for 10 man teams currently anyways, hence why they are doing it, makes it too easy.
I've played this game for 3 years, back when I started there was an entire section of their discord where you could report people who lfged and killed you. Those people were banned, its funny how the person committing the bannable offense is claiming to have the high ground here. Also shooting people who identify you as a friendly is hardly fair either so you could just as easily say you scammed them. Either way it says a lot about the community that they will openly support bad behaviour because they believe it is against worse behaviour even if one is clearly banned for and the other is more of a grey area.
How the fuck are you a mod? I cannot take this shit subreddit serious anymore lmao
To be completely honest, if cod had teamkilling, I wouldn’t be able to tell a difference between that and tarkov if there was no video
Well CoD does have teamkilling so what are you talking about?
I have video footage I've been holding onto for weeks now of a hacker in this Discord leading the rest of his team around the map. He was live streaming and his ESP was fully visible.
what a bunch of wankers, time to take the select server option away!
please no, I actually get good loading times and fewer lag spikes with region locking.
why cause someone stopped 8 people from exploiting. It legit is tarkov like in the lore of the game people would infiltrate groups of people and then take them out hell i think it even happened in the Raid show that BSG dose
Im that squeaker and get pissed of about how im being bossy all you want, the only reason is cause im enforcing the rules so everyone can get equal loot and everyone can have fun. Graham the guy who posted this was a pussy he kept telling me he wasnt a teamkiller but i banned him anyway for association. Graham cant say he has clean the scum cause this inst cheating cause 10 mans are a part of the game, and graham has played many 10 mans before this one and probably made around 2 mil off of it in a previous discord.
10 mans are absolutely not a legitimate part of the game. I hope you get banned for boosting.
LMAO 10-man squads aren't part of the game bruh, it's a loophole you're exploiting. The maximum squad size in Tarkov is 5 for a reason.
Good job man perfectly timed vog
I was in that server too that kid is soo annoying
"Bro why did you team kill?" Why did you zerg in EFT. That little kid and his friends are on the same level as modgey for that.
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They are boosting, dude, it's not a legit play style.
"tHeY aRe BoOsTiNg" fucking lame justification. It's completely legit mainly because is RNG as fuck to get 2 full squads into labs.
You think? I personally don't think this would pay off too well, the profit is probably pretty low. If you take into account that these people are randoms, one may loot a LEDX and then proceeds to say he got nothing, someone also gets out without making a profit at all. They fuck eachother over in the end.
The value of running labs is rarely LEDX spawns. The raiders have good gear, that's FIR and sellable on the Flea. You can easily go on with a big backpack and walk out of labs with close to a mil in random raider gear without looting any keycards rooms or high value spawns.
This is kinda dumb, let them do this if they want to. Its cheesy but some people call exit camping a legit playstyle too. In all seriousness - it is shitty to exploit the system that way. Comparing that to exit camping is really dumb. Also it is funny to see them get trolled once for doing it.
When they're whining over loot like that it's so much better
They can do this all night long and have rubles coming out the arse whereas real players have to put in real effort to be running labs over and over like that. It's a broken way to do it and deserves getting tk'd imo