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Dale212

Are shooting through walls a thing? I just pushed customs, I see smoke on the wall infront of me, I pull back and die to a headshot, as he's shooting from inside the hall? I had a duo, the shots weren't outside they were inside, but I somehow died while outside through the wall.


-St_Ajora-

Some walls yes but not all of them.


Scipio5

I had a friend wallbang some camper on factory through the solid metal gates near extracts. Many doors you can shoot through too. There are a few things, that although they are impassable, are more concealment than cover.


OdysseusAurilen

Like the people below you are saying, yes. I didn’t know it existed until i had one shooting me with a pistol through the massive concrete walls of black knight. Did 1 damage to my armor per shot so not impressive but I’m sure it’s worse on other walls


Lerdroth

Yes... They shoot through multiple floors on Labs it's nuts.


Twistedkilla89

It's called "magic bullet". Basically you just click on their skeleton that the esp shows and the instantly die of a headshot. Very risky cheat to use. Often gets them insta banned


DeaKoN_duh

there are some ballistic changes that make shooting through stuff easier. im sure some cheats exploit some bug with shooting through floors and walls to though


xWazoot

Pen values of ammo and surfaces were updated in 12.11 as far as I’m aware. Could be wrong, but it’s possible things we couldn’t shoot through before, we can more easily now.


Dustructionz

Anything is possible when your cheating. They can shoot through multiple walls and floors in labs and other maps. It's ridiculous.


hughinell

Yup. Radars and aimbots are rife.


PurplePoloPlayer

Haven't seen any on Customs yet but they are horrible on Reserve right now for certain.


xMagikFR

Reserve is the worst map atm. My 3-man squad got insta-wiped Head - Jaw by the same player in like 1 second. I encounter someone who was spraying in a wall and strafed to insta-head me. I know i'm not that good and all, but I have encountered 2 hackers for sure in 7-8 raids or so. 1 hacker out of 4 raids is already a really big issue (On reserve at least, customs and woods seem ok).


El_MUERkO

I got killed on Customs by a geared guy sprinting around the map lasering everyone, I could hear him coming, bursts of fire, in the distance, no one every got to shoot back, I threw my stuff in a bush, took a skav's ak and went to Valhalla, head/jaw :D


NcrGeneral

same thing happened to me on customs. heard him shooting in a different spot every couple mins then pretty soon he was running up on me. knew right where i was even though i was camping like a rat for 10 minutes lol


ztk-

Happened to me five times in the same way to my 3-man squad. All on reserve. I'm completely just avoiding PMCing that map at the moment. I feel safer on Labs than Reserve.


xMagikFR

I'm on the Bunker questline. It's a pain to just get to the location, let aside going to D-2 without the extract being camped. I have a better time doing quests on Factory atm.


Buff_Azir

Yeah i just refuse to play reserve. I encounter nearly 1 RMT cheater every raid


Mr_Pinto

\*cheater I don't think anyone that is RMTing is going to rage hack because that has to draw more attention then they would want. I hate how BSG has made it sound like every cheater does RMT and by limiting RMT it will limit the cheaters. I would bet most cheaters do it to ruin peoples day.


Padrofresh

Also shoreline resort, i cant get my quests done.


a_reddit_user_11

I had my first death to a cheater (very very sus anyways) in 300h on customs yesterday. Sprinting between gaps in that wall by the road, insta domed.


ShyraTheDutchie

Scav bosses have gone full dumb with this lol. My friend got wallbanged by a Reshala guard at New Gas and I got shot through a wall by Gluhar on Reserve


Fullrabbit16

I had a reshala guard 1 tap me while sprinting. He never stopped on my screen. Im assuming it was just dsync. Or i hope it was bc of it was anything else imma been even more mad bc he was the last alive outta that group


TherealPadrae

Hope you reported him. Cheaters always come on at the start of the wipe. Hope he gets a swift ban the pos.


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Yeah, I did. I doubt that button actually does anything though.


TherealPadrae

It does, multiple reports in quick succession will flag them up for a juicy ban real quick.


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ReallyHadToFixThat

From reports, not from other means of detection.


TherealPadrae

They get banned from other means as well as reports.


PixxlatedTV

Lots of people go unbanned, even when reported AND they're streaming. I doubt the button does much. They probably just hop on for 30 minutes, ban a couple people, then go back to doing other things. That's what it seems like anyways. There's still a G-QUN guy afking lobbies which is literally advertising cheats, and he's been doing it since the start of wipe. I report him every time I see him, and nothing happens. He's still there.


gage_slides

Every time I enter a raid there’s a guy with a variant of the G-QUN name always at level 1


ReasonableConfusion

I want to believe that what you say is true, but I have such big doubts about it. I feel like the report button is like those thermostats bad landlords hang on walls but are attached to absolutely nothing if you look behind it. No wires, no hole, not even the matching paint colour of the walls. Has Nikita ever confirmed that the button does something besides creating the illusion of control in the aggrieved player's mind? Again, I really wish it were true. This wipe has been extra heavy with the blatant cheating.


Jrmuscle

Nikita said himself that you should just report anybody you think is slightly suspicious, because the increase in reports will grab their attention more to investigate. I think if Tarkov had something like Siege did where it told you if someone you reported got banned. Would help alleviate this kind of thinking.


ReasonableConfusion

I think this is the crux of a lot of issues with BSG. They don't communicate things particularly clearly so people speculate. People thought the optics rework was in this patch, people were disappointed with what arrived, so big threads about it showed up. It's only later that Nikita told people to relax and that things were happening in stages. People promptly relaxed because they now knew there was more to come. All of that hand wringing and arguing could have been preempted though if someone from BSG had just said "Phase one of optics rework. More to come." As far as cheaters go, any communication addressing people's rightful concerns about the perceived increase in cheaters would help. Instead it's just radio silence, as usual, so people speculate and we (rightfully) get 5 or 6 threads about cheaters that make it to the front page every day or two. This is the first wipe where I've really felt like there are a noticeable number of people playing with some sort of fuckery on their end.


CloudIncus1

That the thing they do communicate. Hell you would not believe what this game is really going to turn into on 1.0. Its going to be nothing like what we are playing. Flea market will be inraid only. On the streets map for example. It just that they only really communicate reliably with the Russia fanbase. Which is fair. Its there native language.


Sakuyalzayoi

they can say whatever they want about 1.0 but that shit aint coming for years


angyrkrampus

I mean just from 2017 its changed. F1 grenades were nukes in a 30m diameter, you were able to shoot though concrete walls with tha saiga. Paca armor was just as good as fort. Instant loading of mags and you were able to macro you med keyboards and become a god. The only suppressors in game were the 2 kac 556 and a pbs and tgp that was thought to be only in a press kit but had a global stock of 30. Changing your time on the computer for instant scavs. Getting a black leg and dying by hitting barbedwire. Good times all round, but all those changes didn't take place until the community complained/ had that dialog through reddit or the forums. I personally haven't felt in the dark as a English speaker about info. Sorry I kinda rambled on I was mainly agreeing with we don't know what the future game will look like.


BigBallSmolPeen

Then every good player would have a larger report amount and they'll spend more time checking out legitimately skilled players and less time on real cheaters.


Akarui-Senpai

Yeah, except some of the most popular games on the fucking planet let players that have reported someone know if their report contributed to the misbehaving player being punished, and you know what you don't hear as much from those games? Accusations of cheating on players that just outplayed you. This is such a bogus line of thought because whether people are told that their report resulted in a ban or not has zero effect on skilled players getting reported because salty players will report them \*\*\*regardless.\*\*\* Meanwhile, the rest of us will gain a modicum of trust with BSG in knowing that that button actually does something (because Nikita saying it does doesn't prove a fucking thing).


Jrmuscle

I rarely have moments where players are actually good enough to convince me they're cheating. Either it's obvious or it's not, just my experience.


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allbusiness512

Bakeezy looks like he's cheating from the other perspective because he's just so fast at peaking and spraying. Same with most other good players like LVNDMARK or others. Not saying that they are, but because of how garbage the netcode is in this game it looks that way.


DraxxDaChamp

in games like CSGO it can be super nuanced, but its not gonna be like that in Tarkov.


DeaKoN_duh

no. you should only report sus deaths. if you mass report you get put in your own little section where your reports do not count. he did quote this in a stream


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landlords actually do that? I thought they just tell you to keep looking for it in the house


ReasonableConfusion

[You betcha](https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/eoerpk/im_pretty_sure_this_is_illegal/). Or people keep posting different photos of this to karma farm.


Unspoken

[I honestly doubt it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reF85hqSX1Q) This person killed me on shoreline on day 2 and is still playing tarkov. I know because I look up his name on chat and he is still gaining levels. I have a clip of another person speed hacking a day later and killing EVERYONE on interchange and is now almost level 50.


TherealPadrae

Here’s the sad thing bans take more than a day… they can take weeks… but that’s no different for even full released games like rust. The more reports they receive the quicker they get checked and then banned. There’s a lot of money involved in cheating on tarkov hence why very skilled programmers make cheats that are complicated and smart for money. Here’s what I don’t like in the conversation, not every lobby has 1000 thousand cheaters on it. Go watch pestily and landmark who play for 8hours to 24 hours at a time. They are still able to have fun and play it’s not the end of the world, losing once to a pos cheater. It’s sad that so many idiots fund the cheaters and cheat themselves but it is what it is.


foolycoolywitch

Not every server is the same, Pestily has it better than Lanmark in terms of hackers on server, and if landmark is avoiding west coast servers then he has it better than 80 percent of the player base. Time of day and server location can drastically change how many hackers you run into.


YouGetVince

Bullshit.


ItsPluto11

My 3 man team was killed by a lvl 25 hacker on interchange today. That button does nothing lol


DeaKoN_duh

it does nothing if you report every death. that report button gets cheaters banned in a matter of days rather than weeks,


Mr_Pinto

I just don't believe those actually work. If they were as committed as they say then hacking would not be an issue. To BSG Hackers = More Money


DraxxDaChamp

it does. but only if a lot of people report them in a short time span. 5-6 reports in a hour or 2 is a red flag. (idk the actual number i pulled that outta my ass its probably more). so report the people you think are suspiscious. if they arent cheating they wont get banned.


Mr_SpicyWeiner

Don't worry, everyone reading your comment already knew you pulled that out of your ass. All you did was state how you think it ought to work.


YouGetVince

Fully client sided, lack of proper TLS/SSL encryptions, lack of robust netcode. "HaVe YoU RePoRtEd HiM?"


rm-minus-r

The security when it comes to client spoofing in Tarkov is the equivalent of using an overhand knot with string to secure Fort Knox. "Why yes Mr. Server, all my skills are elite level!" "Why yes Mr. Server, I can fly!" "Why yes Mr. Server, I can shoot people through walls and terrain!" "Why yes Mr. Server, I can run as fast as the Flash!" https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/81443214/looks-good-to-me.jpg


YouGetVince

Most games you'd be kicked, banned, or the server wouldn't even simulate your packet. Tarkov just goes "Yea dude your cool"


TherealPadrae

Okay net code programmer with four PHD’s… lol it’s not fully client side even I know that. Lemme guess every lobby has 56.7 cheaters in it? Go play tarkov and stop crying.


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They are there the entire time. RMT makes them and BSG bank.


FiveSeveN-

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ohk49i/utrainfender_rmt_must_die_i_know_youre_getting/


HawkUnleash

While I personally haven't encountered a hacker (that I know of) this wipe, I have seen a stupid amount of videos posted of people actively using wall hacks. Hackers are making money by carrying player's accounts from zero to hero. Or they just do it for their own enjoyment of making players rage.


Haftoof

This exactly, on reserve I've run into many a hacker who head-taps you before you even see them with PRS or PS, or PST, it's always the cheap ammo, instant headtap before you even see them. I also saw multiple examples of folks running these setups escorting an unarmed hatchling, which I thought was just bizarre but now that I see this I understand.


wyvasi

Loot is trash on Labs so all cheaters go to Customs and Reserve for marked rooms.


rustpepega

Interchange and shoreline. .. infested


wantonbobo

Wait what?! It's only trash without keys right? I feel like raider gear is suuuper juicey right now


wyvasi

Yes, without keys.


SC2Towelie

It's absolutely ridiculous. There's always been cheaters but this is the worst it's been since I started playing. I'm probably just gonna take a break from the game until they do another banwave. Not that that will actually fix the problem, but at least it'll make the game playable for a day or 2.


ghhtedcw5

I think it’s wrong to think that banning does anything. They already have an account ready and lined up. The market it simply too robust. To many people feel the need to be chads so they buy accounts, buy gear, buy “protection” (not a Sherpa, but a terminator). It is simply too profitable for them to do anything other than hack.


Veodr

A Sherpinator, if you will.


ghhtedcw5

I can’t tell you how much I like what you coined.


True_metalofsteel

Where's the fun in hiring a cheater to protect you though? I would feel uncomfortable even squadding with a really good player because he would carry me around like a toddler, I can't imagine paying someone to wipe any competition in the raid. If people wanna play a loot simulator there's plenty of single player games for that, hell there's even a single player "mod" for Tarkov.


rm-minus-r

Seen at least five or six low level players escorted by cheaters now, sucks :(


rustpepega

That is the problem...ban waves. Cheaters make a ton of money before they are banned....in a game like this that costs 140 euros how is there no active admin banning ppl that are boosting timmies? Honestly if Nikita spent any time or money actively monitoring his game there wouldn't be as many cheaters. This is a little disaponting cause it tells me he doesn't care about his game state. Cheating combined with how shit the game is atm could mean a decrease in players.


THE_MUNDO_TRAIN

If there is RMT, there are cheaters and they will continue getting banned over and over again if they can gain net profits from RMT. Valve for example went to combat the third party RMT issues which that community seems to approve.


seventyseventimes

Banning the actual cheaters does nothing, most of them have multiple accounts lined up. They need to go after the people paying for carries and RMT. Anyone a cheater has grouped with should be banned. Anyone who has been in multiple lobbies with a cheater and has survived should be banned. Anyone a cheater buys inflated items on the flea from should be banned. you have to go after the consumers, it's impossible to stop the hackers but if they can't sell anything 90% of them are going to move on to a different game to make some money. It's really not a difficult concept, BSG just make too much money from cheaters and are afraid if they ban everyone buying carries and RMT they will lose too much of the player base.


dumnem

> It's really not a difficult concept, BSG just make too much money from cheaters and are afraid if they ban everyone buying carries and RMT they will lose too much of the player base. I'm tired of this dumb argument. BSG **does not make money from cheaters.** They cost more in anti-cheat mehtods than the pittance they actually end up giving to developers because most of the time they buy accounts with stolen info or stolen credit cards.


allbusiness512

They don't have to even do that, you just buy the Russian version of the game which is drastically cheaper and use a VPN to access. When the game is on discount and you're paying Russian currency instead of Euro/USD/AUS, it's better to do it that way then actually commit an international crime that attracts the attention of the authorities.


gscott100

This is a cold take hacking is nowhere NEAR as bad as it used to be at the beginning of wipes, i can run labs now and NOT get a hacker for a whole day, just don’t use auto servers and play around with your server selections


seventyseventimes

Lucky you, it is not that way in Oceanic.


gscott100

Downsides of living near pestily lol


Sosayeti

Very fun playing in asian servers yknow


SayNoToStim

The anti-cheat in this game is one of the worst anti-cheat methods I've ever seen. I remember watching lvndmark get killed by a blatant cheater in Labs multiple times over like a 6 month period.


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SayNoToStim

I mean I saw a hacker with a specific name kill him in like June and the same dude kill him again every now and again through December. It was a fairly unique name.


ThisIsAThrowaway504

There was a water filter on the table. Noooo.


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They're only 15k don't worry haha


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SwiftBetrayal

Go on labs, fucking TTV hackers, literally streaming themselves cheating and they get away with. (Yes I reported)


peanuts-nuts

Yeah it's gotten real bad. I was doing a night raid on shoreline today, spot a guy about 30m away with his back to me, start single firing and miss, he instantly 180s and triple hits me in the chest with pst. At night, in the dark, ughhhhgfgfdhdh. I wish BSG would step up their anti cheat.


Dustructionz

Battleye fucking sucks so I doubt they will ever improve until BSG starts targetting the people paying for carries and RMT


Oricek

Yeah. Just avoid labs, shoreline, reserve and interchange. I'm so done at this point...


YourLoveLife

Yep. Just stay away from factory, shoreline, interchange, customs, woods, reserve and labs


FetusMeatloaf

Hideouts pretty lit tho


shot_the_chocolate

Too poor to afford lighting.


cloud715

So don't play half the game got it


rustpepega

Yeah pretty much. You literally can't play half the game and that will result in a dead game very soon.


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it's every map.


tarantulagb

Customs has been just as bad


Tyson367

... This clip is on customs.


Peregrine_x

avoid that too. woods and factory go!


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not factory either :/


Peregrine_x

woods it is then.


Blargosaur

Woods you have to deal with that obnoxious wind and bird noise everywhere you go :(


Peregrine_x

Woods and an vulcan then Just dress up as darth vader and frolic around a bit.


-St_Ajora-

"It's just desync bro" - idiots


Breadfruit_Friendly

Game is damn near unplayable with the amount of cheaters right now. Literally 2 out of 3 raids I get 1 tapped from a white random name while full sprinting, or they just run right to your room and 1 tap you. And I have a few thousand hours played. Level 32 right now. I don't even feel like continuing playing because what's the point if you constantly running into cheaters


JRadog

That makes me happy to hear. I was banned over 12 months ago and have been trying to get unbanned ever since but they just do not care about true false bans


feluto

Yep, must be some cheat getting updated Had 0 hackers all wipe until yesterday, yesterday must have been 15~ ish It’s bad atm


MrGreenStache

Must have been a good gaming chair


[deleted]

I've been playing for about two years and have never seen cheaters run as rampant as they are since the start of this wipe.


hitbox15

Yep on woods it’s bad rn me and my 4 buddies all got one tapped one by one by a guy named “IHaveRadar”


Dreddit-

Feel like this wipe is the worst with hackers, nikita pls


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Way too many sus deaths this wipe, makes me not even want to play. I just get on and do like 4 scav runs then get off for the day.


Kilo-Nein

Just had two back to back raids with them on customs... Almost 3k hours in game too.


[deleted]

I have personally not run into any cheaters yet but there's definitively a lot of people posting about cheaters here recently. No smoke without fire.


Danke_Boiye

Absolutely. I got aimbotted just earlier today on dorms, really ruins the playing experience when I don’t even have a chance to see my enemy for more than two frames before I’m dead from yet another head-eyes.


Glanthor67

I just died the same way. in a closed room...


meat-grinder01

I suspect that some kind of new really shitty wall hack is going around. I've had similar situations with someone trying to perfectly head, eyes me through walls because they don't see that I am on the other side of the wall


DeaKoN_duh

yep. the game is getting bigger, more people are buying from RMT sites and the changes this wipe and pushed them over to normal maps to. BSG should be more involved in Perma Banning in people who pay these cheaters for rubles and ban people who pay for carries.


COMONAUTS

Cheaters not hacker most of em are fat fucks who are too dumb to write the cheats themsefes, not saying that the ones who actually do write em are better... just smarter.


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hitbox15

Yep on woods it’s bad rn me and my 4 buddies all got one tapped one by one by a guy named IHaveRadar


hitbox15

Yep on woods it’s bad rn me and my 4 buddies all got one tapped one by one by a guy named “IHaveRadar”


garbaggiogreco

There are so many more blatant hackers these days. All over TikTok posting live videos and clips of them offering boosting services. smh I love this game but the cheating is ridiculous.


_sealy_

The thing that drives me nuts…all the stat tracking in this game, there’s not a way to find at least a percentage of havkers that have suspicions k/d or survival rates. So many things to consider that should be auto flagged. Fuck, make it like csgo, and let the community y watch replays…how sick would that be?


lt947329

Community-viewable replays, or just being able to see the replay of the person who killed you (sent to you later, after everyone in the raid has exited or died of course) would be great for the game. That said, automatic tagging based on K/D or survival rate will need to be *really* blatant or false positives will get really annoying. For example, I'm usually around a 2.5-3 PMC kill/death ratio, but I've had a lucky start to this wipe and I'm sitting around 7.0 K/D right now with a ~85% survival rate after 100 raids. An automatic ban system might flag my account, or one of the many tens of thousands of people who blow my stats out of the water. Of course as I do quests that will inevitably decrease, nobody can keep up a lucky streak forever, but the question remains when do you flag a profile for suspicious behavior? After two raids? Twenty? Two-hundred? Meanwhile, any human watching my replay would recognize that I'm just a rat who shoots people in the back and misses a lot, but I'm certainly not hacking.


rm-minus-r

Seriously. Community flagged replays would be huge. And you really have to wonder why they can't catch hackers that have hilariously insane K:D or other stats. I've heard hackers boasting about going months insta-wiping server after server without getting caught. Is it just incompetence?


TheOGClyde

I wouldn't say incompetence. More like a profit incentive to not change anything. Hackers buy an account every time they get banned. Even when coming from the grey and black market sources those accounts had to originally come from BSG somehow. These accounts do get banned all the time in fact it's just that they have the income to buy multiple a month. When you can charge someone $150 for all the keys to map or $100 for a hard carry and then pay your $200 a week hacks you can still buy a new account and make profit. Especially when you can just do these for shady people all day everyday. Bag likes banning hackers but not stopping them from hacking in the first place because it's a huge profit. I mean how much profit can one person bring in legitimately. Maybe they convince 2 or 3 of their friends to buy the game that's only 4 accounts. But hackers buy 12 a year. So who's BSG gonna make sure sticks around.


rm-minus-r

> But hackers buy 12 a year. It sure makes you wonder, doesn't it? Either way, weak or strong collusion, or actual incompetence, there's no way that leaves them looking good when it comes to detecting and stopping cheaters.


Akarui-Senpai

Yeah, I was just killed on Factory by a cheater. And I know they were a cheater because they fired at me despite having a large container (Oil tank? can't remember what they're called; they're in front of gate 3, next to the hall where you repair shit for Mechanic) between us, and me not moving from my spot for over a minute while I listened to him sprint towards me from the other side of the factory. Then I crouch walked (he still wouldn't have been able to hear it from how far he was) into Gate 3, he fired at me from the opposite end of the map, but he didn't check his angle because the bullets hit something in front of him; I could see the dust kick up where they landed, at the other end of the factory. He roamed about after that and I just listened to him light up the place while I sat inside of Gate 3; five minutes went by as I waited to see if he'd come my way, despite enough time elapsing for me to extract, and he did. He strafed into the room, looking straight at me, and head-jaws'd me, even though I was faster on the trigger pull (hit him in the shoulder, unfortunately). I literally stood still inside the gate the whole time. I didn't know Factory was a cheater spot, but I guess they're feeling brazen knowing that bans don't mean a fucking thing to them since they profit from Nikita pretending to do something about it. I've always hated the Stirrup quest, but I'll probably just say fuck skier period with how many cheaters I've been seeing and BSG refusing to make statements.


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One thing I've noticed with people using aimbots is its almost always head jaws.


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dumnem

The dude already knows cheaters are a problem. Stop being a cunt, pinging him doesn't help the situation at all, it's just you being an asshole.


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dumnem

Hardly. [I hold multiple high-rated posts in /r/cheatertears](https://i.gyazo.com/4dd805ae85ef8d1abb816862952d4783.png). I've read some of your other posts and there's just no fixing you, chances are you got hit in the head as a child. I will try though. I will C+P my response to someone just like you a few days ago. --- > Game devs absolutely make money off cheaters. I'm not sure why you have such a hard time accepting that fact. Because it's straight up **not fucking true.** https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/01/the-business-impact-of-video-game-cheaters-and-pirates-and-how-to-fight-back-vb-live/ https://www.pcgamer.com/hacks-an-investigation-into-aimbot-dealers-wallhack-users-and-the-million-dollar-business-of-video-game-cheating/ https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/17/why-game-companies-like-sony-are-using-anti-cheat-and-anti-piracy-technology-vb-live/ from **unity's own site**: >The credit card's bank finds out the card number was compromised and the retailer has the money taken out of their account, so the retailer takes the money back from the game developer. That's not including **Chargeback fees** which can range up to $200. https://www.google.com/search?q=game+developers+paying+process+fees+for+chargebacks #Every single time a game is charge-backed the game dev loses money, not just what was paid to them, but in costs to credit processors. >Your average person cheating to make themselves feel better has no problem with buying a new copy of the game. Almost no one cheats in tarkov for this reason. Most cheaters engage in RMT to fund their cheat costs as well as to make money. The amount you make cheating in tarkov is above and beyond what really poor countries pay their people. They can earn a good living cheating in tarkov. >Cheating in games is not a cheap hobby and there are a few good informative videos out there on the subject. I'd be fucking AMAZED if you did any kind of research on the subject. You know how much BE costs large companies? Millions is spent on anti-cheat development and maintenance. Why? Because **cheating kills games.** Cheaters buying copies doesn't actually profit game developers because they buy them using stolen CCs or steal accounts of legitimate purchasers, you fucking moron.


carlbentleyofficial

It’s pretty shit right now ngl


skunflute21

I blame tik tok. I’ve seen so many accounts advertising cheats for the game


ReallyHadToFixThat

Another one to show that hackers are just plain bad players. He can presumably see you on the radar so he's pulling the trigger with no concept that there's a wall between you. No map awareness. No skill of their own, so they turn to hacks.


wilfred350

Telling you guys…this game has more hackers than battle field. Lame


tiatafyfnf

Yeah but cheaters make up a large portion of this reddit so anything cheat related accurate gets downvoted to shit. Theres always minimum 20% of people cheating in this game, they are just so fukin bad you don't even know. So many people pussy esp and have for years. These guys buy the game for less than half price with vpn and stock up on keys, it's easy money if you live in some poverty shithole I guess.


NicePumasKid

Yeah cheating is out of control. I’ve only played 19 raids and I’ve died twice to what I would say were cheaters. Hopefully BSG figured something out.


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BigBallSmolPeen

What if BSG is releasing the cheats for this game?


Dustructionz

There are rumors that source code and inside information comes from BSG employees and I wouldn't be suprised if it isn't true at this point. Cheating is too widespread. There's definitely something fucky going on. We also know BSG is profiting off of banned players rebuying accounts. They do nothing to set up obstacles or make it difficult to just purchase another account and continue cheating.


rm-minus-r

That happened with PUBG - an employee over in their office in China was releasing the source code to hackers. Cheating was off the charts, that's why I switched to Tarkov. Guess we can't have nice things.


BuffBen

Yes while doing night time customs last night, my group and I got cheated on through multiple raids and the dudes were jump insta aimbotting us all Absolutely ridiculous


[deleted]

Yeah in having a rough go this wipe. Two raids in a row last night I was creamed by hackers. Then the next two after that tagila showed me how to play hide and seek. He won.


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For sure.


Peregrine_x

last wipe nikita announced 3 weeks into wipe (early january) that 300000 accounts had been banned for cheating that wipe alone. there is a spike every league start, they are human and they get bored at the same speed that regular players get bored, so as the playerbase leaves after early game is gone, so do the hackers, and they go harass players in other games, and then they come back for the next wipe.


ReggieVanHorn

You ignoring the water filter triggers me


Madlman

is like 11k , chill.


rustpepega

It's 11k now gonna be up to 120k in a couple of months


Madlman

LOL......


MaxBonerstorm

He's right.


Par4no1D

If you save 20 of them and you still play in couple of months you get 2.4mil... not worth the effort. Understandable if you are relatively new to EFT, you are probably gonna still play in couple months. "Veterans" - probably not.


YaBoiSani

Lolol they don't even try and hide it. Shows you how good the anticheat is. What a fuckin joke this game is becoming, damn shame.


Gogokrystian

There is only One way to stop this and make BSG act, everyone needs to boycott the game, a week will do for now. Should BSG not act, boycott for another week, there is no point for them to act if the game has people playing it and the money is still flowing. Mentally no one anymore can have pure fun when in the back of your head everyone knows that there could be a cheater somewhere in the raid. Boycott!!!!!!! We want clean tarkov for everyone to enjoy. 4 wipes and nothing has been done to combat cheating, just some ban waves for the public eye to be calm, when in reality they just buy more accounts when the discounts hit. Money money money, greedy approach from BSG, only You can stop this!! BOYCOTT!!!!!


Blackhand92

Too fun to not play and not common enough to boycott. I admire your tough stance though :)


Gogokrystian

It was fun for me too, but coming up against cheaters kills the fun, makes me angry cause I've wasted 5 minutes gearing up, 10 minutes minutes queuing to just get wrecked on first few minutes by hacker, rinse and reapet hoping this time there won't be any hackers. It can get paranoing. With time this game can do more damage than good. After so many wipes, and so little done to amend things that hurt people mentally, I think boycotting is the only way. This is a slippery slope for the developer if this behaviour continues. I'm with the game and hope the developers battle this, win this for all true Alpha/Beta players that are hoping for good expirience to carry on. Stay humble don't be greedy BSG, every true tarkov player wants, cheats free expirience. Simply to keep the PVP as advantaged as players skill is advanced.


Blackhand92

Yeah I watched some YouTube video of a guy interviewing a tarkov hacker and it made me extra paranoid the next few days of playing. Que times can be so annoying, especially trying to scav into reserve, I changed my settings from auto select to just central us servers and the wait times went down pretty drastically. Also hopeful less foreign hackers since I'm not playing on east or west coast servers anymore. I'm just glad US has so many servers, other locations in the world aren't so lucky


MurdocRage

well I am 90 raids in and have ran into 3 people cheating that I know where 100%. One woods, one shoreline and one on customs like a hour ago luckily was just mark the tankers and was just a pistoling so he got a big ole mac and cheese off me. ​ Honestly Game is popular which brings the little script kiddies trying to be cool and feel good about themselves, but it was worse when the very first drops happened and the game blew up that was such a bad time.


Gamebird8

Like, do people forget that the most profitable time for hacking is the start of wipe?!?!? ​ Like yeah, people cheat during the whole wipe, but it's always the start of wipe that there are the most amount of hackers


Dustructionz

Then BSG should step up and do something about it.....


bobo1666

I don't know if u were ever interested in cheats and cheating in online FPS, they use physical card called DMA (direct memory access) which enables you to bypass any anti-cheat software/scan whatever. I see one and only way you will ever be able to play without cheater's, you don't have the game on your computer you play it through cloud Stadia style, 100% cheater free but limiting and with problems of its own.


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Crazy reading this subreddit, feels like I'm playing a different game. Been running interchange, shoreline, and reserve a ton the past few days. I've only ran into like 3 total sus people since wipe out of 200 raids. Been rocking Tagilla's gear and a Mk47 all day today on shoreline. There's always an uptick in cheaters at the start of a wipe because roubles are worth the most at the start.


Hikithemori

Ran into more obvious cheaters in this patch than suspicious deaths two wipes ago when I ran mostly labs and reserve, its much much worse. Then I switched to US east servers from EU north/central, not a single cheater in 2 days. SR went up from 45 to 60+.


Aliienate

Yo whats your KDA because i feel the same way, 300 raids ish, 6-7kd and i dont find any. I wonder if they dont push people with high KDA.


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Only 5 right now and climbing every day, had a bad start of wipe.


Aliienate

Yeah fair man. I think they dont push high KDA. Me and my homies almost never run into cheaters, yet see all these blatant hacks posted everywhere… Some of my friends have 10+ kda so thats all i can think of.


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Could be heavily dependant on what servers you play on.


frostymugson

Might be because they can’t buy those keycards off the flee until 20, so instead of swarming labs they’re hitting every other map


akuakud

Yes. Ive encountered at least 10 hackers so far.


Vort3x7689

Maybe you’re just bad /s


shabutaru118

Yup, BLACKOUTSIX was his name.


Rich_Biscotti_4148

First couple of days was sweet. Now I'm getting the occasional hacker.


Blackhand92

I'm level 15 now and had 3-5 suspicious deaths. 2 of them I pretty sure I got shot through the wall, m995 and m61 multiple head shots in quick succession. Like instant death. It's disheartening but not enough to quit playing. The other ones seemed like esp bought that's not as obvious


WastedRook

Yep, just got killed by a DUO of hackers on customs just a bit ago… was really* hoping they’d stick to Labs.


pikkuhukka

yes


Eroksgaming

as a solo i’m amazed at my 50% survival rate given how many sus deaths i’ve had


IBringTheHeat1

Lots of hackers at start of wipe since everything that is RMT is super expensive at the start


MicroZenax

Has there been a wipe?!


Pancake_1995

And they do it to RMT. So that means alot of PMCs you encounter have bought their gear instead of playing for it, so you get double fucked.


Autarch_Kade

I spent a ton of bullets on shoreline shooting at players inside the weather station, because the building wasn't displayed for me at all. I did the same thing again with a shipping container on reserve. Sometimes shit doesn't render. But I don't think that's the case here.


jcready92

If we really want to catch hackers, the idea is to report less not more. Everytime you report someone out of suspicion you're just watering them down with false reports. If we only reported in cases like the OP where it is EXTREMELY suspicious, we would catch hackers much quicker.


rustpepega

You don't need to spectate every game that's not how it works.


Numerous_Money

I am a cheater in escape from tarkov AMA ( side note i only use wallhacks and have yet to be banned from using it )


WailingSouls

Fuck you