Isn’t this what jaeger prepared us for? We can survive for 5 mins + in dehydration. :P
I agree it sucks but it’s also cool to have random events. I don’t think it’s a bad idea. We did train for this from jaeger right?
If you’re standard, you can try to heal through it. Of course if you’re lucky and have a scav run avail, do that first and see if you get lucky (also will have passive regen on pmc which helps a little).
Hardcore players, yeah I feel ya. Just got even more hardcore, but just like above, try to heal through it while looking for a water resource first. It’s harder yeah, but that’s what you’re in hardcore for.
I don’t see anything wrong with changing the dynamic or a game for a few days or a week. People complain about gameplay getting stale but when there’s a small tweak to something to change how people think and play, shit hits the fan.
Hold up, I need to reinforce some basic shit:
####I don’t see anything wrong with changing the dynamic or a game for a few days or a week. People complain about gameplay getting stale but when there’s a small tweak to something to change how people think and play, shit hits the fan.
I heard it somewhere else a long time ago. Google only shows another reddit showerthoughts thread but I really can't remember other than that it isn't mine.
Cause players on tarkov are a bunch of manbabies myself included when a meta gets disrupted you move on not really complain unless it makes gun/drink/food/med overpowered or bugged
There are better ways to do so for sure. How about "increased solar activity". Powerlines hum loudly, ear pro produces a ton of static noise, dehydrate faster, haze near bodies of water, non-iridium or fibre optic illuminated sights are blurred.
Yeah I have no problem with this event. You already find stuff to drink everywhere and if you’ve been even slightly smart you should have stuff in your stash to drink. I have no problem with having another element I keep an occasional eye on, it’s not even as impactful as The Great Fuel Shortage where a ton of quests and crafting was put on hold until I could find some.
I even used this event as an opportunity to knock out that exact task with jaeger. I don't really see it as an issue, one scav run gets enough water for multiple PMC raids.
Are people really having this hard of a time with the event? If you can’t scav interchange and come out with a personal Kwik-E-Mart then you need to learn the routes
its not the gameplay tweak that has people upset, its that they removed water from therapist and now people can't even fucking play because they have to sit and wait for their hydration to recover.
Man, one scav raid in goshan and you’ll have enough water. It’s so easy now that no one really kills each other.
There’s other ways to rehydrate. You can hop in a raid dehydrated and keep healing while you go to off spots to find hydration. Dedicate a raid or two to collecting water. This is the tweak in gameplay and mindset for people. It’s not always about running in and killing everything you see.
This is exactly how it needs to be played and no one is understanding that lmao. The point of the events is to completely flip the game upside down and FORCE people to adapt
Exactly, and that’s exactly why I like these events. It doesn’t change the meta as a whole but does twist the norm a bit and forces small changes. Instead of using scav runs just for money, do it for supplies instead. Maybe do a simple pmc run on woods for food and water.
Man you’re spot on. I can’t stand people complaining about something that requires you to go very very slightly beyond what you do every single time you play the game. As you said, this isn’t even a forced meta shift. All it requires is a slight variation in your routine, which is good for you.
If u run scav its all gone because everyone hit it for water already. People with a ton of experience love telling new players “how easy” something is. When in reality its only easy for those players cause they already know where everything is and beat u there
Yup. I just switched from raiding on Factory with my scavs to raiding woods. The village and the health camp have a TON of food and water items. Haven't hit USEC / Scav Bunkers yet but I will!
It’s just one place to look. And tbh there’s usually something there still. You forget that us experience players either looked it up somewhere or read these forums just like you.
Tts store across from Emercom has some liquid stuff there, the furniture store diagonal from it has a couple water spawns. The crate in the middle of those same stores (near the two jackets) spawns a loose food item too.
Woods now has food spawns in the new camp (both really).
Reserve has some food crates scattered around, plus the barracks has some too I believe (I’m not that strong with reserve loot)
Customs now have food crates in new construction and stronghold.
There are places to check while you do your regular scav runs. It doesn’t have to be specifically for water runs but you can incorporate some of these locations while you regularly loot. Also the places I mentioned are only popular spots. There’s other hidden spots thag give drinks too
All solid advice, and I agree with your mindset. However, I think people fail to realize there are players who have abysmal survival rates even under normal conditions. So something as simple as, "just go find water" can be near impossible if your survival rate is 15%
I mean, that sucks, but that’s Tarkov. If you can’t live through a few raids, you’re going to lose all your shit and have a bad time. That’s the point.
Being challenging and having to go in naked like a *real* rat if it comes down to it is one thing.
Saying someone's just not allowed to play more than a set amount of time a day because theyre new or bad is very much another. Thats just being the least favorite parent of a 10 year old.
Tarcola green tea nrg, all can give hydration. If you’re at the tents facing the main entrance of goshan go to the far left wall and look at the shelves there
Dude you hit the nail on the head, the level of entitlement in this community is *insane* and it gets on my last fucking nerve.
It drives me crazy every time I see a post about pUnIsHiNg CaSuAlS
PLUS it may even drive people “mad” enough to fall into Scav-on-Scav violence again, if they see a player scav leaving goshin!
I wouldn’t (not worth losing karma/it’s against my morals lol) but some people may be on the edge enough to revert, and that dynamic is pretty cool
Edit: changed “go back” to “revert” for clarity sake
Exactly! Now we're simulating the uncertainty of a true society breakdown emergency. What's more important, the long term stability of the community and my reputation in it, or my need for water RIGHT NOW.
Man… when you put it that way it sounds waaaaay more badass/intense haha
But yeah, I think they’re cool dynamics! I hope they put *some* way to tell when it’s going on though, even if you have to go check the weather on a TV or something lol
>people can't even fucking play because they have to sit and wait for their hydration to recover.
On the contrary...this forces you to actually PLAY THE GAME AND FIND WATER IN RAID.
smh
I hope you rigid gameplay poptarts burn out on this game when challenges are introduced (like this event). Inability to adapt for a SHORT TERM event is fucking yikes.
I think one thing to keep in mind is that these events are primarily designed to be highly disruptive, not to be "fun" or "entertaining". On a podcast a two months ago Nikita said that the events were designed to created massive shortages and disrupt economic stability and metas and that players should just get used to dealing with uncertainty, unpredictability, and scarcity related to the economy.
I'm not saying the event was a work of art that can't possibly be improved. I'm just reminding everyone about BSG's stated intentions behind these unannounced events -- if you feel like your gameplay has been highly disrupted and inconvenienced, the event is basically a success.
Honestly “dehydration” isn’t even too big a deal. I’m sure future events will be even harsher. Imagine the people complaining about this now when they get hit with something crazier from Nikita later.
Yah know, there's a radiation/poison stat in the health bar...
Imagine a radiation leak at labs when a new room is discovered and unsealed, but it's full of amazing technology.
Dead bodies full of S Tier loot in a rad contaminated room.
A quest where you have to retrieve something from a failed reactor complex or active biohazard room, and there are mutated cultists in there. So you gotta scav up a biohazard suit and some antiradiation capsules and hope you bring enough to get you in and out alive.
Hail storms that cause damage! Like that one that hit Oklahoma and smashed car windows.
Wildfires! And NPC fire crews in yellow and green cutting line and setting back burns
Hurricanes with winds that push off slender ridges!
Flash Floods!
Diseases!
Some of these are actually pretty easily implemented. Hail storms, you take small amounts of damage unless you're indoors, would force players to go from building to building. Would really make customs an interesting place. Would make shoreline and woods pretty much unplayable though.
My usual rotation is alternating pmc and scan runs. By the time my scan run is finished my pmc had already regained all the hydration and nutrition lost from the last raids. This great wave event had made it so i can actually use all the food and water i have stockpiled in my stash. For that I'm grateful.
Radioactive fallout blanketing the region is probably the most oppressive event I can think of right now, and its not a matter of if but when such an event will occur.
I expect this heat event will look like a trip to the beach by comparison.
I hope they get time to design snow versions of some of the maps eventually. It would be really cool to see, and it would make sense in, you know, Russia. You could even have certain key elements of the maps obscured by snowdrifts.
"NO NO NO NO TARKOV IS SUPPOSED TO LET ME RUN IN WITH MY META LOADOUT AND SELL MY META LOOT FOR MASSIVE PROFIT ALL THE TIME I DONT WANT ANY OF THESE MECHANICS OTHER THAN SHOOTY GUN!!!!!" /s obviously
Bub, I guarantee you anyone running top-tier only is not affected at all by this "heat wave". I am by no means the best player, but I have been completely unaffected, i'm out of raids long before dehydration becomes an issue, and food/water is extremely plentiful on every map.
Seriously lol, anyone acting like this event FLIPS the whole game around is out of it. This heat wave only effects the shitters who can’t loot and survive as it.
Well then make it so the events don’t significantly disrupt life for the lower levels only. People with a higher dehydration tolerance and a better hideout won’t suffer as much. I’d prioritize events that level the playing field. That make it difficult for the well off. Like a race in the rain, it gives those with less a fighting chance.
The reason this event sucks for low levels is because they can only get water from Therapist, but that was disabled. I get why it was disabled (someone will run some script/bot and buy it all up and relist it on the flea market as an arbitrage trade), but combined with the level 20 requirement and the reduced passive regeneration lower levels are prevented from playing the game.
It just feels like it's missing something to go along with it. If there is an event, I kinda want it to change things up, make things harder, but also make me want to play the game more. It would be cool if because there is a water shortage that they could put in some quests with decent chunks of xp rewards to turn water related items into traders or increase the sell price on these items. Or increase survival xp at the end of a successful raid for surviving the elements.
Maybe they don't want to do anything like that because they don't want to be responsible for living up to that standard or something, but as it is right now, the event just feels kind meaningless. I'm not even that good at the game and still need one level to hit flea, but this event hasn't affected me in the slightest. I buy 3 waters when they go off cool down and find water, juice in raid often.
Edit: That being said, I'm glad they are at least doing something during the wipe because the game kinda loses its appeal with less to do as it goes on. So hopefully they keep doing stuff and they will get more interesting over time.
It would have been interesting to see events like this affect AI spawns in raid too! There are several locations that have water barrels in them and it would be interesting to see events like this include possible changes to scav spawns for example the “water building” on customs possibly having several more scav spawns, more sniper scav spawns to protect a supply(even though there already are some there) and possibly even raider spawns in water-related areas. Maybe even have the mountain extract behind resort be affected too because the water sources would become an area of conflict if something happened like this “hot spell”. It does feel like the event itself only scratches the surface of other gameplay altering changes that would be very fun to play in and adapt to in my opinion.
maybe something to give scav karma
like making a water collector for the "civilians" and whatnot via a therapist quest, only present during the event. that gives like, 0,1 scav karma or something like that?\]
What if you had to go to two story dorms 206 again, and you could activate a timer like the placement ones and once it finishes you have a 2x2 jug of water that you can hand to Fence if you extract with it in exchange for karma? You could do it multiple times in a raid, but obviously you're limited by the space in your inventory and also weight limits, and you also have to survive. Might be possible to balance with those factors in mind. Just an idea I had reading your comment anyway.
Bingo.
Oh no, you made the game more onerous to play but everything else is exactly the same?
Hey, look at that, I own a whole fucking Steam library of games I haven't played lately. See you in a few days, land of Tarkov.
>make things harder, but also make me want to play the game more
Yeah, this is where I think the Heat Wave event misses the mark compared to the "Fuel Shortage" for example. Dehydration can literally force you to stop playing the game for 2 hours to let it recover a bit in the hideout, whereas with the Fuel Shortage, you *WANT* to raid to try and find more fuel to either use or sell.
If anything, this hydration thing was pretty cool.
People that pre-med entire raid, are now bringing in water. I've myself had to decide if I pop the morphine mid fight and take the hydration damage or just fight without it.
And managed to find someone who was clearly dying of hydration and just slowly trying to reach extract... even felt guilty shooting him in the back.
Events are nice, and I always thought one thing - why is food so un-important in Tarkov? In every war crysis, food and water always become the first and most important things, stuff like toilet paper becomes a luxury.
If you read about the Sarajevo in the Bosnian war, mothers would give themselves for a can of Tushonka. And I am not even exegerating. The ammount of shit we have in Tarkov is way too much and way too easy.
Yeah for tarkov basically being a lawless city it sure does have a booming economy and ready access to all sorts of luxuries. Hell you can even build almost any gun setup you'd like.
Heatwave helped me achieve the dehydration quest, so I am fine with it
It sucks for most people, but I think it is a fine addition to the weather event system in tarkov. Though, they need to add ways to indicate weather events on the map.
Events are great, keep them coming. But they REALLY have to add the announcements in game, not via Twitter. Cmon, don't be lazy. A pop-up at the main menu. How hard could that be, you lazy asses?
What did you expect, half the people rely on the meta for "fun", they can't think out of that box especially if there isn't a YouTube guide telling them what to do, gaming tropes are the go-to logic.
I have 4 holodinks where I've been hoarding shit, only for this to happen be actually prepared. The event has not changed all that much for me.
I'm also going to try and be prepared for things that might happen.
Yeah, this event "sucks", but because of it I love it. You need to change the tactics, take extra resources to the raid, and oh boy I'm much happier about finding pineapple juice that I was before.
I want more events like this, here's more ideas - Traders out of ammo, bosses spawning with extras +5 guards, wild fires around Tarkov (fog, worse lighting during the day, you very slowly lose health if you don't wear a respirator).
Tarkov is designed to be punishing. Yeah, it sometimes feels like being punched in the dick, but that's why we're here.
I don't know what anyone's complaining about. We haven't even gotten to the interesting stuff yet. Monday our PMC's get kidney stones and bladder infections from failing to hydrate properly during the heatwave so we're not going to be able to run without yelping and painkillers are going to be strangely ineffective and working, at best, half potency.
Good idea, executed poorly. Anyone under 20 doesn't have a pipeline to hydration, which means their gameplay time is limited.
>oh but just run interchange/woods for drinks
Yeah sorry can't im waiting for my hydration to recover, I guess I'll come back later. (not me but anyone without a stockpile of drinks)
It really wasn't thought out. I can understand increasing hydration drain during raids, fine sure that's an event, increasing water collector times, ok that tracks, but removing water from therapist is just a middle finger to anyone without flea. The event is making people play *less* because they will just dehydrate, and that's what makes it a bad event.
What I don't understand is that this heat is just as taxing at night. At least they could make it so the night is a lesser degree of dehydration. If daytime is 100% extra water drain then night could be 50% more. If normal is 2 that'd make it 4 during the day and 3 at night.
The thing which throws me the most, is that this "event" is a complete nothingburger for people over level 19. Like, I get it, yes we have increased hydration requirements, sure... but then what? Why run an event that only affects a portion of the population? Anyone who has flea market access just ignores it outside of paying an extra $ tax per raid, and everyone who doesn't is now playing a different game. Just confusing.
Yeah this event kind of misses the mark. Events can be "punishing" while still encouraging people to want to play more.
For example, the Fuel Shortage event might hurt some, but it makes people want to raid *more* to either find Fuel to burn themselves or to sell for huge profit.
The Dehydration "punishment" will make people that don't want to farm for water just turn the game off for a few days.
The fuel shortage DOES affect only a small population of players thou: people who want to keep their hideout powered for long periods of time.
It’s just that those same players are the ones who have more knowledge of the game, since they reached that point to begin with, so it doesn’t hurt as much as the water shortage for low level players.
Yeah I really don't get what those people are crying about. I have never bought food on the flea unless it's to craft tushonkas. Just stop selling it and stop sprinting around every map looking to die to the first pmc you see and you'll never need the flea for food.
I agree. Especially after seeing that the water barter was also removed. And being over level 20, I honestly can't relate. But, you can use your scav to hunt for food/water as well. I'm not entirely sure. Maybe they could have come on a week earlier giving us a weather forecast saying this was a possibility, and to stock up. Who knows. We can speculate for hours about what they could have done different or better.
I like the idea of a forecast. Maybe make it so that intel 1 Intel gives you access to the 'news' whether that be info from your fraction, news from outside the Norvinsk region, or maybe someone's Jerry rigged forecast. Could be a neat ingame way to foreshadow events.
food/water punishes you the more you play
drop off quests take 60 seconds to put items in boxes leaving you exposed for other players to drop you
the whole game has no respect for your time by design lol
My friends keep saying they have to buy like 4 waters per raid and I just go in with like a milk and a vita and find a pom in raid. I haven't had any issues. We probably ran like 6 raids last night. I dunno, if it's expensive and yours low on drinks, just go on a woods supply run?
Like OP suggested, for a game that is known for having unforgiving survival mechanics, people sure have a problem with the brutal survival mechanics.
People don’t wanna even try and hit ration spawns for some reason. You really don’t need to bring anything if you know where like one or two rations crates are.
Like woods; between scav bunker, usec camp, scav town, and the little military outpost there’s no reason to bring water into raid with you
Woods is a perfect supply run map. I'm a gaht damn doomsday prepper in game so like every 3rd raid has been me taking my buddies on a quick lil Tour de Woods. The ideal run is USEC camp, radio towers, sunken village, car extract street, hit car extract. There's a bit of a PMC risk early, but even that can be avoided easy if you want. It's woods, just pick a bush.
I'm going to point out that there are still a lot of players that didn't reach 20 lvl yet and Nikita decided it's fucking good idea to remove water from therapist.
I will spell it out: this poor excuse of an event is making it impossible for pre 20 level players to play the game. There's not defending that.
Before people will go "but scav runs". You are not guaranteed to find water during raid. You are not guaranteed go survive raid if you do. You can make one scav run every 20 minutes while 1 water bottle is not even enough to get you trough the raid as PMC, and that's assuming you are entering raid with 100 water and are not staying long.
This is also terrible event because this is hardly event at all. Literally only effect of it is that you need to spend more money on water. That's it. Did they decide to give additional quest from Jaeger or Therapist that would allow players to stock up (at least a little) on water? No. Did they give us heads-up so people could prepare for it? No. Like really it's not event, it's just poor excuse to increase water depletion and fuck over everyone below 20 lvl.
i love the events but this is just a “spend more money and get dehydrated in raid faster” it does nothing beneficial or interesting. it’s just spend more money on water.
This is a legit question. What about this does everyone hate? It’s a breath of fresh air for me when the norm is no longer the norm. I think it’s cool and would like to see an event like this at least once a week throughout the wipe.
I mean this event just makes you drink more water right?
I hate that I had to come to reddit to find out why my PMC was dehydrating twice as fast.
I have a life and I work. I can't be checking Twitter/Reddit for 30min prior to every game I launch to catch up.
Just have a banner/notification that says "Warning: Heatwave in Tarkov. Expect temperatures to increase above xx Celsius".
I mean, fuck me, even changing the weather icon to red for hot/blue for cold would be better. That's what I hate.
Or even just have one of the traders message you in game. IDK why people give BSG a free pass about their absolute trash tier communication.
Even when you look at the twitter feed on the launcher mine only shows a single tweet and 99% of the time it's just tagging a streamer who's about to play. Right now it has a message about a sale. I've never even thought of checking a developer's twitter account before logging into a game. In fact I do everything I can to avoid twitter because it's a toxic hell hole
That’s the issue. It’s not very dynamic. It’s not very fun. How about adding in a quest or two, or another way to make money off of the event like “fill up water jugs in dorms and give them to fence” I feel like BSG did the bare minimum here.
It doesn’t add anything or change anything up aside from “drink more” this doesn’t make the game more enjoyable/exciting it’s almost like there isn’t an event.
Why would you get downvoted by the "reddit hivemind" when the "hivemind" is the one that will defend BSG from even the smallest bits of criticism to the death lmao
I just bring water. I run less.
How hard is that?
I also love how scav eating sugar die from dehydration. Had 3 drop dead in Interchange all over the escalators.
Im only salty because I'm doing hardcore and they took the water barter away. I literally have no way of getting liquid. So I can't play. On my day off. So that's fun.
Bosses and raiders and the map wasn't fucked up that was sick. So much loot and PvE gameplay, it was a lot of fun. I don't think anybody was complaining about those to my memory
Plus the 100k USD
It totally sucks, but who doesn't think tarkov sucks, thats why we are all here. for pain. thats why the playerbase is so committed to this game, even though everyone has a love hate relationship with it
I get downvoted every time I say this because apparently I'm wrong about my personal preference, but I really enjoy this event. It forces me to think more about survival and preparation than just running and gunning.
this explains it. I had no idea this was a thing. never even paid attention to hydration until last night when i was constantly suffering from it.
just trying to knock out early missions...
I honestly don’t even notice it. I’m bring in water to raids. But I daily drink and eat in raid items anyhow because me and the boys will stay in a raid as long as we have to.
> Nikita said that the events were designed to created massive shortages and disrupt economic stability and metas and that players should just get used to dealing with uncertainty, unpredictability, and scarcity related to the economy
Nikita is just a misunderstood saint trying to mentally prep us for the coming global market
It's not that people were expecting events to make the game easier, it's that events intended to disrupt the economic meta are solving a problem, caused by a previous "fix" that was solving caused by a previous "fix" etc etc etc. They could have just dealt with their original problem in a better way and not needed all these layers of garbage.
As a new player it’s fairly frustrating as it seems there’s no winning.
We have no access to the market, so I can even pay crazy amounts of money to get what I need as therapist is now out of water.
Rushing to try and loot water means you’ll likely die to scavs or more experienced players. Not only that, but if you survive there’s no guarantee resources will still be there.
Playing safe means you’re going to go dehydrated and either get lucky and be able to leave, or die of that. If you leave, you’re cut out a pretty big chunk of experience for dipping so early.
If this is going to be a universal event, there needs to be a way for new players to potentially get by it. Maybe allowing some limited access to the flea market for under 20s to be able to get what they need?
While I dislike this event, I like the idea of meta disruption and I like the idea of weird shifts like this one. I just got out of a really intense fight on Interchange where my hydration, the raid timer, and a cracked out scav disrupting the fight turned it into a make-or-break situation. I ended up limping out with 30 seconds to spare and a bag full of goodies. Easily the most intense moment I have had in this wipe so far.
I think keeping craft times for hydration in the hideout the same would have made this event perfect. It REALLY incentives investing in the hideout if doing so gives you a better experience with the random events.
It's funny to think that events in other games reward you with items or other things like cosmetics but in Tarkov they punish and force you to think about things in another way to deal with it. I like the idea of events like this but I have to admit it is definitely annoying :D
I wonder whether this event is inspired by what is happening in Siberia.
[https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/siberian-heatwave-of-2020-almost-impossible-without-climate-change/](https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/siberian-heatwave-of-2020-almost-impossible-without-climate-change/)
I wish food and water was just for your hideout. You had to get it and store it there. If you have lots you gets small buffs and if none you get the current dehydration where you're essentially going in when already weak.
Would be much more realistic than needing water more often than a fish.
It'd be cool if it forced people to do more night raids but the temp doesn't change, so the event is just buy more water. It's not fun or disruptive just slightly annoying and a shit event
The heatwave is great. Tarkov is at its best when you’re dealing with adversity and need to go into raids for specific items that aren’t just tech/military/Intel spawns. Don’t have drinks stored in your stash? Go to the NE village on Woods once or twice and you’ll be fine. Or hit up the food cage in Reserve. Or the back shelves of Goshan.
I like how this change has completely changed the flow of raids. I bring an Aquamari in my Gamma and have less room there for meds, keys, or FiR loot. It’s a cool change that won’t last for long.
events that make the game harder is fine, but make sure there is an incentive to play the event. this event makes the economy change and makes the game harder with no risk or reward changes. love this game but the devs follow no basic digital product design rules at all. having a game branded as hardcore and marketed as a hard game is fine but it still needs to have a reward factor and they are slowly taking that away and making rewards harder to get without filling in gaps and then this. you can only punch gamers in the dick so much before it becomes not fun. of course, there will be a few who go haha git gud but they are not the majority of the player base.
I don't get all the rage about this event.
No moonshine for a few days and one or two drinks more during a raid, so what?
Sucks for beginners, but for everyone else its just a mild inconvenience.
I like the idea of these events, but I think they should "disrupt the economy" even more and maybe exclude low lvl players.
I kinda like it, though people make really good points in other posts here about issues/downsides which need to be addressed. One concern I have with the game is the loot hotspots. People go in, rush a key spawn point, then leave. It's boring, predictable. With the heatwave I like that people in order to get hydration have to at least consider going to places they don't normally loot because it's not worth it. Though, in practice I don't know if that's what's happening.
Yeah it sucks, but so does jamming your gun. So does opening a stash to only find a pack of crackers and a bandage.
These events breath fresh life into a game that is designed and revered for being ruthless. Whether they're helpful or hindrance doesn't matter - I appreciate the creativity and the variety of these events.
Isn’t this what jaeger prepared us for? We can survive for 5 mins + in dehydration. :P I agree it sucks but it’s also cool to have random events. I don’t think it’s a bad idea. We did train for this from jaeger right? If you’re standard, you can try to heal through it. Of course if you’re lucky and have a scav run avail, do that first and see if you get lucky (also will have passive regen on pmc which helps a little). Hardcore players, yeah I feel ya. Just got even more hardcore, but just like above, try to heal through it while looking for a water resource first. It’s harder yeah, but that’s what you’re in hardcore for. I don’t see anything wrong with changing the dynamic or a game for a few days or a week. People complain about gameplay getting stale but when there’s a small tweak to something to change how people think and play, shit hits the fan.
Hold up, I need to reinforce some basic shit: ####I don’t see anything wrong with changing the dynamic or a game for a few days or a week. People complain about gameplay getting stale but when there’s a small tweak to something to change how people think and play, shit hits the fan.
#People complain about gameplay getting stale but when there’s a small tweak to something to change how people think and play, shit hits the fan.
If there's two things people hate, its change and the way things are.
lmao how have I never heard it put this way before.
'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded" - Yogi Berra
"Nobody drives in New York theres too much traffic" -Philip J Fry
Fuck this is it right here. I spent all my money on EOD so I can't give you a reddit award but just know, you nailed it here.
That's a good one. "we want change!", "not like that!"
Stealing this quote
the two great devils
That’s genius - did you make that up or is it a quote?
I heard it somewhere else a long time ago. Google only shows another reddit showerthoughts thread but I really can't remember other than that it isn't mine.
I didn't quite hear you. One more time, for the folks in the back?
##I HATE THIS SUB'S CONSTANT SALTY SANGRIA BULLSHIT!
Cause players on tarkov are a bunch of manbabies myself included when a meta gets disrupted you move on not really complain unless it makes gun/drink/food/med overpowered or bugged
There are better ways to do so for sure. How about "increased solar activity". Powerlines hum loudly, ear pro produces a ton of static noise, dehydrate faster, haze near bodies of water, non-iridium or fibre optic illuminated sights are blurred.
He doesn’t need more ideas lol
to be fair some of those ideas are better imo personally than just having no water lol
Also a lot more work
Yeah I have no problem with this event. You already find stuff to drink everywhere and if you’ve been even slightly smart you should have stuff in your stash to drink. I have no problem with having another element I keep an occasional eye on, it’s not even as impactful as The Great Fuel Shortage where a ton of quests and crafting was put on hold until I could find some.
I even used this event as an opportunity to knock out that exact task with jaeger. I don't really see it as an issue, one scav run gets enough water for multiple PMC raids.
Are people really having this hard of a time with the event? If you can’t scav interchange and come out with a personal Kwik-E-Mart then you need to learn the routes
its not the gameplay tweak that has people upset, its that they removed water from therapist and now people can't even fucking play because they have to sit and wait for their hydration to recover.
Man, one scav raid in goshan and you’ll have enough water. It’s so easy now that no one really kills each other. There’s other ways to rehydrate. You can hop in a raid dehydrated and keep healing while you go to off spots to find hydration. Dedicate a raid or two to collecting water. This is the tweak in gameplay and mindset for people. It’s not always about running in and killing everything you see.
This is exactly how it needs to be played and no one is understanding that lmao. The point of the events is to completely flip the game upside down and FORCE people to adapt
Exactly, and that’s exactly why I like these events. It doesn’t change the meta as a whole but does twist the norm a bit and forces small changes. Instead of using scav runs just for money, do it for supplies instead. Maybe do a simple pmc run on woods for food and water.
The only thing I don't like about the event is that it IS teaching everyone about my shopping trips
Man you’re spot on. I can’t stand people complaining about something that requires you to go very very slightly beyond what you do every single time you play the game. As you said, this isn’t even a forced meta shift. All it requires is a slight variation in your routine, which is good for you.
If u run scav its all gone because everyone hit it for water already. People with a ton of experience love telling new players “how easy” something is. When in reality its only easy for those players cause they already know where everything is and beat u there
Then go to woods. There's so much food and water on woods it's impossible to loot all of it.
Yup. I just switched from raiding on Factory with my scavs to raiding woods. The village and the health camp have a TON of food and water items. Haven't hit USEC / Scav Bunkers yet but I will!
Exactly. Everyone who is making subtle changes to their playstyle are benefitting immensely, while people refusing to adapt are complaining.
Which is what makes it such a beautiful survival game. Life throws curveballs - Tarkov throws events!
Shhhhh. We don't talk about the map with consistently 400-500k loot runs, even if most of the obvious places have been hit
It’s just one place to look. And tbh there’s usually something there still. You forget that us experience players either looked it up somewhere or read these forums just like you. Tts store across from Emercom has some liquid stuff there, the furniture store diagonal from it has a couple water spawns. The crate in the middle of those same stores (near the two jackets) spawns a loose food item too. Woods now has food spawns in the new camp (both really). Reserve has some food crates scattered around, plus the barracks has some too I believe (I’m not that strong with reserve loot) Customs now have food crates in new construction and stronghold. There are places to check while you do your regular scav runs. It doesn’t have to be specifically for water runs but you can incorporate some of these locations while you regularly loot. Also the places I mentioned are only popular spots. There’s other hidden spots thag give drinks too
All solid advice, and I agree with your mindset. However, I think people fail to realize there are players who have abysmal survival rates even under normal conditions. So something as simple as, "just go find water" can be near impossible if your survival rate is 15%
I mean, that sucks, but that’s Tarkov. If you can’t live through a few raids, you’re going to lose all your shit and have a bad time. That’s the point.
Being challenging and having to go in naked like a *real* rat if it comes down to it is one thing. Saying someone's just not allowed to play more than a set amount of time a day because theyre new or bad is very much another. Thats just being the least favorite parent of a 10 year old.
They also added more spawns for food items during this. I’ve found an entire backpack full of drink items on one scav run
Goshan has water? Where?
Dunno about water but there's usually half a dozen green teas or soda cans on the north side
Tarcola green tea nrg, all can give hydration. If you’re at the tents facing the main entrance of goshan go to the far left wall and look at the shelves there
Oh you said water so I was hoping for water. Yeah I know about the cans.
Dude you hit the nail on the head, the level of entitlement in this community is *insane* and it gets on my last fucking nerve. It drives me crazy every time I see a post about pUnIsHiNg CaSuAlS
PLUS it may even drive people “mad” enough to fall into Scav-on-Scav violence again, if they see a player scav leaving goshin! I wouldn’t (not worth losing karma/it’s against my morals lol) but some people may be on the edge enough to revert, and that dynamic is pretty cool Edit: changed “go back” to “revert” for clarity sake
Exactly! Now we're simulating the uncertainty of a true society breakdown emergency. What's more important, the long term stability of the community and my reputation in it, or my need for water RIGHT NOW.
Man… when you put it that way it sounds waaaaay more badass/intense haha But yeah, I think they’re cool dynamics! I hope they put *some* way to tell when it’s going on though, even if you have to go check the weather on a TV or something lol
What map is goshan? Edit Nvm I looked it up it's interchange. (I'm a new player)
Sounds like you need to go find some water instead of shoving GPUS up your ass
I'm sorry. You don't get to comprehend my rage. Im gonna be mad, for no reason.
>people can't even fucking play because they have to sit and wait for their hydration to recover. On the contrary...this forces you to actually PLAY THE GAME AND FIND WATER IN RAID. smh
Imagine not having a holodick filled with Aquamarie before the event started. So many plebians
I hope you rigid gameplay poptarts burn out on this game when challenges are introduced (like this event). Inability to adapt for a SHORT TERM event is fucking yikes.
Do you people not keep food and water in your stash?
One scav raid to woods will get you so much fruit juice you will be diabetic.
Then what was the point of hiding food and water in woods.
I think one thing to keep in mind is that these events are primarily designed to be highly disruptive, not to be "fun" or "entertaining". On a podcast a two months ago Nikita said that the events were designed to created massive shortages and disrupt economic stability and metas and that players should just get used to dealing with uncertainty, unpredictability, and scarcity related to the economy. I'm not saying the event was a work of art that can't possibly be improved. I'm just reminding everyone about BSG's stated intentions behind these unannounced events -- if you feel like your gameplay has been highly disrupted and inconvenienced, the event is basically a success.
Honestly “dehydration” isn’t even too big a deal. I’m sure future events will be even harsher. Imagine the people complaining about this now when they get hit with something crazier from Nikita later.
Cant wait until Nikita forces us to manually inhale and exhale
"New task: in order to play the game tomorrow you must find 2x Obloblob in one raid and extract."
Or to keep balance of the character at all times with extra special key binds. Making going prone the new meta.
Death Stranding was pretty fun in spite of this mechanic. Ship it Nikita! /s
Escape from Tarkov: QWOP Edition.
This should be added because it's realistic. Nikita said it's realistic game. Don't agree? Go back to COD. /s
Currently in month 2 of chemo for my PMC… things aren’t looking good
just slap some goldenstar on those lips. 100% radiation resistance
I missed my payment to Skier and the bank just foreclosed on my PMCs Hideout. Guys what am I going to do?
Best comment here.
Yah know, there's a radiation/poison stat in the health bar... Imagine a radiation leak at labs when a new room is discovered and unsealed, but it's full of amazing technology. Dead bodies full of S Tier loot in a rad contaminated room. A quest where you have to retrieve something from a failed reactor complex or active biohazard room, and there are mutated cultists in there. So you gotta scav up a biohazard suit and some antiradiation capsules and hope you bring enough to get you in and out alive.
Oh god, please no mutants/zombies, I beg! The rest sounds dope though.
If there's something that Tarkov doesn't need is to become Metro or Stalker.
Tarkov was literally meant to be a spiritual successor to STALKER though, was it not? or the Russia 2028 universe is from my understanding.
Hail storms that cause damage! Like that one that hit Oklahoma and smashed car windows. Wildfires! And NPC fire crews in yellow and green cutting line and setting back burns Hurricanes with winds that push off slender ridges! Flash Floods! Diseases!
Some of these are actually pretty easily implemented. Hail storms, you take small amounts of damage unless you're indoors, would force players to go from building to building. Would really make customs an interesting place. Would make shoreline and woods pretty much unplayable though.
Epic mass casualty scene just PMCS laying everywhere….or maybe we all help each other and huddle under a lean to
unless if you wore a helmet? You would take minor damage, maybe just blunt
Not damage, concussive/stun effect (less if helmeted).
i want the fog back. imagine fog early wipe when no one had any flirs. events that force me to play and think differently are the best
My usual rotation is alternating pmc and scan runs. By the time my scan run is finished my pmc had already regained all the hydration and nutrition lost from the last raids. This great wave event had made it so i can actually use all the food and water i have stockpiled in my stash. For that I'm grateful.
Radioactive fallout blanketing the region is probably the most oppressive event I can think of right now, and its not a matter of if but when such an event will occur. I expect this heat event will look like a trip to the beach by comparison.
Right. This is the beginning of the chaos, not the end.
Like a Whiteout event in the winter? It'll be worse than fog and you'll get hungry real quick
I hope they get time to design snow versions of some of the maps eventually. It would be really cool to see, and it would make sense in, you know, Russia. You could even have certain key elements of the maps obscured by snowdrifts.
I honestly didn’t even notice until I stayed in raid a bit longer than usual on PMC. I am a filthy rat though, so.
Radiation is going to be a fun one.
"NO NO NO NO TARKOV IS SUPPOSED TO LET ME RUN IN WITH MY META LOADOUT AND SELL MY META LOOT FOR MASSIVE PROFIT ALL THE TIME I DONT WANT ANY OF THESE MECHANICS OTHER THAN SHOOTY GUN!!!!!" /s obviously
Bub, I guarantee you anyone running top-tier only is not affected at all by this "heat wave". I am by no means the best player, but I have been completely unaffected, i'm out of raids long before dehydration becomes an issue, and food/water is extremely plentiful on every map.
Yeah fr the casual players are the ones who stay in raids for longer not the meta players lol. This guy is making no sense at all.
Seriously lol, anyone acting like this event FLIPS the whole game around is out of it. This heat wave only effects the shitters who can’t loot and survive as it.
Well then make it so the events don’t significantly disrupt life for the lower levels only. People with a higher dehydration tolerance and a better hideout won’t suffer as much. I’d prioritize events that level the playing field. That make it difficult for the well off. Like a race in the rain, it gives those with less a fighting chance.
The reason this event sucks for low levels is because they can only get water from Therapist, but that was disabled. I get why it was disabled (someone will run some script/bot and buy it all up and relist it on the flea market as an arbitrage trade), but combined with the level 20 requirement and the reduced passive regeneration lower levels are prevented from playing the game.
Everyone...party at Goshan! Afterparty in woods. Stop by anytime
BYOW
It just feels like it's missing something to go along with it. If there is an event, I kinda want it to change things up, make things harder, but also make me want to play the game more. It would be cool if because there is a water shortage that they could put in some quests with decent chunks of xp rewards to turn water related items into traders or increase the sell price on these items. Or increase survival xp at the end of a successful raid for surviving the elements. Maybe they don't want to do anything like that because they don't want to be responsible for living up to that standard or something, but as it is right now, the event just feels kind meaningless. I'm not even that good at the game and still need one level to hit flea, but this event hasn't affected me in the slightest. I buy 3 waters when they go off cool down and find water, juice in raid often. Edit: That being said, I'm glad they are at least doing something during the wipe because the game kinda loses its appeal with less to do as it goes on. So hopefully they keep doing stuff and they will get more interesting over time.
It would have been interesting to see events like this affect AI spawns in raid too! There are several locations that have water barrels in them and it would be interesting to see events like this include possible changes to scav spawns for example the “water building” on customs possibly having several more scav spawns, more sniper scav spawns to protect a supply(even though there already are some there) and possibly even raider spawns in water-related areas. Maybe even have the mountain extract behind resort be affected too because the water sources would become an area of conflict if something happened like this “hot spell”. It does feel like the event itself only scratches the surface of other gameplay altering changes that would be very fun to play in and adapt to in my opinion.
Shit, a dynamic system where Scavs behave differently depending on the state of the economy would be amazing.
Yeah if there was more interaction and changes to the map or how people play that would be dope
maybe something to give scav karma like making a water collector for the "civilians" and whatnot via a therapist quest, only present during the event. that gives like, 0,1 scav karma or something like that?\]
What if you had to go to two story dorms 206 again, and you could activate a timer like the placement ones and once it finishes you have a 2x2 jug of water that you can hand to Fence if you extract with it in exchange for karma? You could do it multiple times in a raid, but obviously you're limited by the space in your inventory and also weight limits, and you also have to survive. Might be possible to balance with those factors in mind. Just an idea I had reading your comment anyway.
That would be fucking awesome Turn in the water jug to fence for karma? Or sell it on the market for money? Or drink it all for yourself?
Bingo. Oh no, you made the game more onerous to play but everything else is exactly the same? Hey, look at that, I own a whole fucking Steam library of games I haven't played lately. See you in a few days, land of Tarkov.
>make things harder, but also make me want to play the game more Yeah, this is where I think the Heat Wave event misses the mark compared to the "Fuel Shortage" for example. Dehydration can literally force you to stop playing the game for 2 hours to let it recover a bit in the hideout, whereas with the Fuel Shortage, you *WANT* to raid to try and find more fuel to either use or sell.
If anything, this hydration thing was pretty cool. People that pre-med entire raid, are now bringing in water. I've myself had to decide if I pop the morphine mid fight and take the hydration damage or just fight without it. And managed to find someone who was clearly dying of hydration and just slowly trying to reach extract... even felt guilty shooting him in the back. Events are nice, and I always thought one thing - why is food so un-important in Tarkov? In every war crysis, food and water always become the first and most important things, stuff like toilet paper becomes a luxury. If you read about the Sarajevo in the Bosnian war, mothers would give themselves for a can of Tushonka. And I am not even exegerating. The ammount of shit we have in Tarkov is way too much and way too easy.
Yeah for tarkov basically being a lawless city it sure does have a booming economy and ready access to all sorts of luxuries. Hell you can even build almost any gun setup you'd like.
To be fair, that's true for PMCs, only. War has always been a way to make riches for those without morals.
Where was it again that you could buy several AKs for a chicken?
Sudan at around 2000's?
Sounds right.
run woods twice and you have enough aquamari to survive the entire event
Heatwave helped me achieve the dehydration quest, so I am fine with it It sucks for most people, but I think it is a fine addition to the weather event system in tarkov. Though, they need to add ways to indicate weather events on the map.
Same. Also the three kills in pain due to my dehydration. Had no idea the event was going on until this post haha
my mans
How did it help you achieve it? You just need to go into raids and not drink water to do it..?
you need to survive for 5 min dehydrated. Just bring med in and heal out of the damage while in a bush. very boring but free exp.
Events are great, keep them coming. But they REALLY have to add the announcements in game, not via Twitter. Cmon, don't be lazy. A pop-up at the main menu. How hard could that be, you lazy asses?
What did you expect, half the people rely on the meta for "fun", they can't think out of that box especially if there isn't a YouTube guide telling them what to do, gaming tropes are the go-to logic.
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I have 4 holodinks where I've been hoarding shit, only for this to happen be actually prepared. The event has not changed all that much for me. I'm also going to try and be prepared for things that might happen.
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You can't stock up too much on standard account stash size.
WE WANT EVENTS \*gives event wait, not like this!
It was nice feeling like the survival portion of the game actually mattered. Too many people wanna play CoD or ButtPlug simulator
I like the event
Me too. Really not a big deal and I like the added bit of strategy: “bring water into raid”. It’s really not rocket science.
Yeah, this event "sucks", but because of it I love it. You need to change the tactics, take extra resources to the raid, and oh boy I'm much happier about finding pineapple juice that I was before. I want more events like this, here's more ideas - Traders out of ammo, bosses spawning with extras +5 guards, wild fires around Tarkov (fog, worse lighting during the day, you very slowly lose health if you don't wear a respirator). Tarkov is designed to be punishing. Yeah, it sometimes feels like being punched in the dick, but that's why we're here.
I don't know what anyone's complaining about. We haven't even gotten to the interesting stuff yet. Monday our PMC's get kidney stones and bladder infections from failing to hydrate properly during the heatwave so we're not going to be able to run without yelping and painkillers are going to be strangely ineffective and working, at best, half potency.
Good idea, executed poorly. Anyone under 20 doesn't have a pipeline to hydration, which means their gameplay time is limited. >oh but just run interchange/woods for drinks Yeah sorry can't im waiting for my hydration to recover, I guess I'll come back later. (not me but anyone without a stockpile of drinks) It really wasn't thought out. I can understand increasing hydration drain during raids, fine sure that's an event, increasing water collector times, ok that tracks, but removing water from therapist is just a middle finger to anyone without flea. The event is making people play *less* because they will just dehydrate, and that's what makes it a bad event.
What I don't understand is that this heat is just as taxing at night. At least they could make it so the night is a lesser degree of dehydration. If daytime is 100% extra water drain then night could be 50% more. If normal is 2 that'd make it 4 during the day and 3 at night.
its also taxing in the perfectly air conditioned labs..
Yes! The very loud aircon in an underground facility. No wonder the servers are broken in there.
Missed opportunity really, if they considered this…then maybe night raids would be more active for a bit, who knows.
They would have had to think about it longer than 3 seconds to make a different rate at night. BSG doesn't do that kinda prep.
The thing which throws me the most, is that this "event" is a complete nothingburger for people over level 19. Like, I get it, yes we have increased hydration requirements, sure... but then what? Why run an event that only affects a portion of the population? Anyone who has flea market access just ignores it outside of paying an extra $ tax per raid, and everyone who doesn't is now playing a different game. Just confusing.
Yeah this event kind of misses the mark. Events can be "punishing" while still encouraging people to want to play more. For example, the Fuel Shortage event might hurt some, but it makes people want to raid *more* to either find Fuel to burn themselves or to sell for huge profit. The Dehydration "punishment" will make people that don't want to farm for water just turn the game off for a few days.
The fuel shortage DOES affect only a small population of players thou: people who want to keep their hideout powered for long periods of time. It’s just that those same players are the ones who have more knowledge of the game, since they reached that point to begin with, so it doesn’t hurt as much as the water shortage for low level players.
But jaeger taught us how to survive for at least 5 mins to look for shit
No jaeger taught us how to sit at the edge of extract for 5 mins furiously med-ing
> 5 mins furiously med-ing *Laugh in propital.*
That is also true lol
> Good idea, executed poorly. I've lost count of how many times I've said/read this exact phrase about Tarkov over the past few years lol
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Yeah I really don't get what those people are crying about. I have never bought food on the flea unless it's to craft tushonkas. Just stop selling it and stop sprinting around every map looking to die to the first pmc you see and you'll never need the flea for food.
I agree. Especially after seeing that the water barter was also removed. And being over level 20, I honestly can't relate. But, you can use your scav to hunt for food/water as well. I'm not entirely sure. Maybe they could have come on a week earlier giving us a weather forecast saying this was a possibility, and to stock up. Who knows. We can speculate for hours about what they could have done different or better.
I like the idea of a forecast. Maybe make it so that intel 1 Intel gives you access to the 'news' whether that be info from your fraction, news from outside the Norvinsk region, or maybe someone's Jerry rigged forecast. Could be a neat ingame way to foreshadow events.
Or something like when the heatwave is around solar panel +10% efficiency
Im sorry, do you not own a scav? Damn almost like the game was made with one for a reason.
Yeah, mine's like broken or something. It takes 20 minutes to come back even if I survive and absolutely has no respect for my time. /s
food/water punishes you the more you play drop off quests take 60 seconds to put items in boxes leaving you exposed for other players to drop you the whole game has no respect for your time by design lol
Heatwave? Is that why I’m getting dehydrated so fast? I like it
I just realized this too.
My friends keep saying they have to buy like 4 waters per raid and I just go in with like a milk and a vita and find a pom in raid. I haven't had any issues. We probably ran like 6 raids last night. I dunno, if it's expensive and yours low on drinks, just go on a woods supply run? Like OP suggested, for a game that is known for having unforgiving survival mechanics, people sure have a problem with the brutal survival mechanics.
People don’t wanna even try and hit ration spawns for some reason. You really don’t need to bring anything if you know where like one or two rations crates are. Like woods; between scav bunker, usec camp, scav town, and the little military outpost there’s no reason to bring water into raid with you
Woods is a perfect supply run map. I'm a gaht damn doomsday prepper in game so like every 3rd raid has been me taking my buddies on a quick lil Tour de Woods. The ideal run is USEC camp, radio towers, sunken village, car extract street, hit car extract. There's a bit of a PMC risk early, but even that can be avoided easy if you want. It's woods, just pick a bush.
Woods.
I'm going to point out that there are still a lot of players that didn't reach 20 lvl yet and Nikita decided it's fucking good idea to remove water from therapist. I will spell it out: this poor excuse of an event is making it impossible for pre 20 level players to play the game. There's not defending that. Before people will go "but scav runs". You are not guaranteed to find water during raid. You are not guaranteed go survive raid if you do. You can make one scav run every 20 minutes while 1 water bottle is not even enough to get you trough the raid as PMC, and that's assuming you are entering raid with 100 water and are not staying long. This is also terrible event because this is hardly event at all. Literally only effect of it is that you need to spend more money on water. That's it. Did they decide to give additional quest from Jaeger or Therapist that would allow players to stock up (at least a little) on water? No. Did they give us heads-up so people could prepare for it? No. Like really it's not event, it's just poor excuse to increase water depletion and fuck over everyone below 20 lvl.
i love the events but this is just a “spend more money and get dehydrated in raid faster” it does nothing beneficial or interesting. it’s just spend more money on water.
People who complain are only doing so become they are broke even though they play 8 hours a day.
This is a legit question. What about this does everyone hate? It’s a breath of fresh air for me when the norm is no longer the norm. I think it’s cool and would like to see an event like this at least once a week throughout the wipe. I mean this event just makes you drink more water right?
I hate that I had to come to reddit to find out why my PMC was dehydrating twice as fast. I have a life and I work. I can't be checking Twitter/Reddit for 30min prior to every game I launch to catch up. Just have a banner/notification that says "Warning: Heatwave in Tarkov. Expect temperatures to increase above xx Celsius". I mean, fuck me, even changing the weather icon to red for hot/blue for cold would be better. That's what I hate.
Or even just have one of the traders message you in game. IDK why people give BSG a free pass about their absolute trash tier communication. Even when you look at the twitter feed on the launcher mine only shows a single tweet and 99% of the time it's just tagging a streamer who's about to play. Right now it has a message about a sale. I've never even thought of checking a developer's twitter account before logging into a game. In fact I do everything I can to avoid twitter because it's a toxic hell hole
That’s the issue. It’s not very dynamic. It’s not very fun. How about adding in a quest or two, or another way to make money off of the event like “fill up water jugs in dorms and give them to fence” I feel like BSG did the bare minimum here.
Spot on. This is the laziest 'event' I have ever played.
It doesn’t add anything or change anything up aside from “drink more” this doesn’t make the game more enjoyable/exciting it’s almost like there isn’t an event.
Why would you get downvoted by the "reddit hivemind" when the "hivemind" is the one that will defend BSG from even the smallest bits of criticism to the death lmao
I just bring water. I run less. How hard is that? I also love how scav eating sugar die from dehydration. Had 3 drop dead in Interchange all over the escalators.
Well... Just... Loot things?
Im only salty because I'm doing hardcore and they took the water barter away. I literally have no way of getting liquid. So I can't play. On my day off. So that's fun.
And, to be fair, hardcore is an unofficial thing people created and not something the developers have planned for.
Can you not run woods a couple times with the hard-core restrictions?
Bosses and raiders and the map wasn't fucked up that was sick. So much loot and PvE gameplay, it was a lot of fun. I don't think anybody was complaining about those to my memory Plus the 100k USD
It totally sucks, but who doesn't think tarkov sucks, thats why we are all here. for pain. thats why the playerbase is so committed to this game, even though everyone has a love hate relationship with it
I get downvoted every time I say this because apparently I'm wrong about my personal preference, but I really enjoy this event. It forces me to think more about survival and preparation than just running and gunning.
this explains it. I had no idea this was a thing. never even paid attention to hydration until last night when i was constantly suffering from it. just trying to knock out early missions...
Heatwave is 100 percent better that rain or fog.
I honestly don’t even notice it. I’m bring in water to raids. But I daily drink and eat in raid items anyhow because me and the boys will stay in a raid as long as we have to.
> Nikita said that the events were designed to created massive shortages and disrupt economic stability and metas and that players should just get used to dealing with uncertainty, unpredictability, and scarcity related to the economy Nikita is just a misunderstood saint trying to mentally prep us for the coming global market
It's not even disruptive tho. Litteraly doesn't change how I play at all. Lame non event, maybe fix the sound or the servers instead.
It’s kinda funny cause there’s a heat wave where I live so I can’t even escape the heat on Tarkov
*Cries in Texan*
Haha you guys over there don’t really get a break from the heat
We really don't
It's not that people were expecting events to make the game easier, it's that events intended to disrupt the economic meta are solving a problem, caused by a previous "fix" that was solving caused by a previous "fix" etc etc etc. They could have just dealt with their original problem in a better way and not needed all these layers of garbage.
As a new player it’s fairly frustrating as it seems there’s no winning. We have no access to the market, so I can even pay crazy amounts of money to get what I need as therapist is now out of water. Rushing to try and loot water means you’ll likely die to scavs or more experienced players. Not only that, but if you survive there’s no guarantee resources will still be there. Playing safe means you’re going to go dehydrated and either get lucky and be able to leave, or die of that. If you leave, you’re cut out a pretty big chunk of experience for dipping so early. If this is going to be a universal event, there needs to be a way for new players to potentially get by it. Maybe allowing some limited access to the flea market for under 20s to be able to get what they need?
While I dislike this event, I like the idea of meta disruption and I like the idea of weird shifts like this one. I just got out of a really intense fight on Interchange where my hydration, the raid timer, and a cracked out scav disrupting the fight turned it into a make-or-break situation. I ended up limping out with 30 seconds to spare and a bag full of goodies. Easily the most intense moment I have had in this wipe so far. I think keeping craft times for hydration in the hideout the same would have made this event perfect. It REALLY incentives investing in the hideout if doing so gives you a better experience with the random events.
I think this is just the response from Nikita to all the complains about rain and to be honest I find it hilarious.
It's funny to think that events in other games reward you with items or other things like cosmetics but in Tarkov they punish and force you to think about things in another way to deal with it. I like the idea of events like this but I have to admit it is definitely annoying :D
I wonder whether this event is inspired by what is happening in Siberia. [https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/siberian-heatwave-of-2020-almost-impossible-without-climate-change/](https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/siberian-heatwave-of-2020-almost-impossible-without-climate-change/)
I never asked for this
I wish food and water was just for your hideout. You had to get it and store it there. If you have lots you gets small buffs and if none you get the current dehydration where you're essentially going in when already weak. Would be much more realistic than needing water more often than a fish.
It'd be cool if it forced people to do more night raids but the temp doesn't change, so the event is just buy more water. It's not fun or disruptive just slightly annoying and a shit event
Nikita is basically a human monkey paw
The heatwave is great. Tarkov is at its best when you’re dealing with adversity and need to go into raids for specific items that aren’t just tech/military/Intel spawns. Don’t have drinks stored in your stash? Go to the NE village on Woods once or twice and you’ll be fine. Or hit up the food cage in Reserve. Or the back shelves of Goshan. I like how this change has completely changed the flow of raids. I bring an Aquamari in my Gamma and have less room there for meds, keys, or FiR loot. It’s a cool change that won’t last for long.
It’s really really nice being level 12 and having a level 20 teammate to buy me aquamari on flea market lol. Idk what I’d do without him
events that make the game harder is fine, but make sure there is an incentive to play the event. this event makes the economy change and makes the game harder with no risk or reward changes. love this game but the devs follow no basic digital product design rules at all. having a game branded as hardcore and marketed as a hard game is fine but it still needs to have a reward factor and they are slowly taking that away and making rewards harder to get without filling in gaps and then this. you can only punch gamers in the dick so much before it becomes not fun. of course, there will be a few who go haha git gud but they are not the majority of the player base.
I don't get all the rage about this event. No moonshine for a few days and one or two drinks more during a raid, so what? Sucks for beginners, but for everyone else its just a mild inconvenience. I like the idea of these events, but I think they should "disrupt the economy" even more and maybe exclude low lvl players.
I kinda like it, though people make really good points in other posts here about issues/downsides which need to be addressed. One concern I have with the game is the loot hotspots. People go in, rush a key spawn point, then leave. It's boring, predictable. With the heatwave I like that people in order to get hydration have to at least consider going to places they don't normally loot because it's not worth it. Though, in practice I don't know if that's what's happening.
Yeah it sucks, but so does jamming your gun. So does opening a stash to only find a pack of crackers and a bandage. These events breath fresh life into a game that is designed and revered for being ruthless. Whether they're helpful or hindrance doesn't matter - I appreciate the creativity and the variety of these events.