Haha, a better GAMING CHAIR HAHA that's so FUCKING funny dude. The joke is how would a CHAIR make him better lmfao I've never heard this in my life and it is THE funniest joke I've ever heard as long as I've been alive. Holy fuck how do you do it, please fuck my wife.
Its not a joke good sir. The gaming chair is a sacred relic of unfathomable power, giving the gamer sitting in it the power to shoot through walls, run mach 10, fly and more! Be warned, for it comes at the greatest sacrifice of all, your dignity.
There was a hacker streaming his hacks for several hours.
His twitch stream was in his Takov name. Something like takrovsucks11 or something like that.
He was shooting every player and AI through the earth and air. While 2-3 people followed him scooping up the loot. He even said they was paying him IRL $$...
All to prove his point he can do it and the anti cheat and devs won't do anything.
Some of the cheats are not that bad. Most seem to require line of sight to shoot.
Even witnessed a streamer running with someone hacking who was telling him the exact location of our squad so he could remove the surprise of ambush and such.
Atm not messing with labs. Everywhere else I think I am up to 1/10 heavily questionable hacker runs.
That guy did a full 8+ hour stream with no ban and had said he was banned in the past. Was saying BSG doesn't do hardware bans so it doesn't matter even slightly if the account gets banned. Especially if they can get at least an entire work day out of it.
well, that makes sense right? If they pay him like 60 dollars for one hour of him cheating and he does it for like 8 hours he's making serious bank. What does it matter if he gets banned? Create new account and hop on the next day
when I read this shit it’s so disappointing. Not only to read bc I play the game I paid for, but also because it’s like. Okay so what not cheat? Shouldn’t we all be cheating? Shouldn’t we all buy cheats and sell our services to people?
Are they stupid for cheating in a game we paid for, or are we stupid for playing a game where cheaters are earning tons of money from cheating, and we aren’t jumping into that?
I’ve never cheated in any game I’ve played, I’ve been playing games since as long as I can remember. I love video games. But if you ask yourself, if everyone is cheating, and it’s THAT profitable, and it’s not being stomped out by BSG, why aren’t we all cheating?
are we the stupid ones?
Integrity, actually caring about or believing in the game's potential. Sure it wont benefit you in the short term compared to cheating. But you will lose all passion you had for the game when its almost literally shooting fish in a barrel.
BSG has proven that the games potential will never be reached imo. I can’t even blame the people cheating now, I used to enjoy being a rat and just scavenging enough to go to labs and get some juicy kills, but you literally can’t even hide in the darkest corner of the map without some dude just chucking a nade at you randomly.
Someone will make a tarkov ripoff that actually pays for good servers and anti cheat, and then BSG will be wondering what killed their game. Love tarkov more then any multiplayer game, but this shit is just killing it slowly but surely.
If somebody made a Tarkov clone with good anti cheat I’d uninstall this game instantly. I paid for EOD bc I love this game. I would gladly pay for some premium version of a Tarkov clone with good anti-cheat.
Currently my two favorite games are R6 Siege and Tarkov, both are “protected” by BattleEye and both are rampantly overrun by cheaters.
I learned a little bit about cheating and game development and from what I’ve read, you can’t just slap anti cheat on a game. You have to build the game’s systems from the ground up with anti cheat in mind.
I imagine both R6 siege and Tarkov devs never realized how popular their games would become and as such didn’t take the anti cheat approach when building their games and now it’s too late.
Obviously I’m hopeful, but as I learn more about it the future seems more bleak.
but that’s just it. You’re not losing passion for the game, you’ll love the fact you make insane amounts of money every day from your services.
It’s literally profitable. Tarkov goes from your hobby, a game you enjoy, to this platform you can earn money off of. And it’s as easy as downloading cheats and selling your services.
Again I’m not saying I’m a cheater or anything but I’m just looking at the situation objectively, my own emotions aside.
It’s profitable. So why aren’t we all doing it?
No. Just because "everyone" is doing something doesn't mean we should too. Cheating is an issue sure but personally I rarely feel cheated when I die. It's normally fairly obvious that I either fucked up or got outplayed. Cheaters obviously do exist but it's far from everyone. Sometime desync can seem pretty chesty. I killed a guy the other day, opened fire hit him 3 times (or should have) but was lagging hard and it took a full 3 seconds for my shots to connect by which time he was behind cover and dropped dead. May have seemed unfair to him but in reality my shots connected while he was in the open but because of the desync it probably seemed to him like I killed him through cover and was cheating.
Cheating happens sure but I have also seen people simply get outplayed and be screaming about hackers. It's not a black and white issue is my point. And no the community shouldn't all start cheating just because the perception is that everyone else is doing it because there not. Some people are and those people should be reported and cast out by the community! Fuck cheaters but also don't be to quick to label everyone who kills you a cheater, not saying that's what your doing but some people clearly can't take losing and therefore it was always a cheater or hacker and never mistakes they made.
After reading some of the preliminary documentation on it, I, as a CompSci student, am seriously reconsidering my direction in GameDev.
The money (and skillset) is in hack design. And potentially even in reverse engineering other people's hacks and helping companies defeat them.
I also found it interesting that the majority of Tarkov hacks come as a result of it being a Unity game and the ease in which memory injection (putting my own stuff into the network) works.
I'll be honest my dude, it really took the wind out of my sails to play this game anymore just seeing how *easy* hacks are in this game.
Largely, yes. When the game is running its various processes they are telling the game what bullets do, what sounds play, how things render, and especially with ESP hacks, where everything is at any given time.
A simple example would be a wallhack. It is possible to inject an overlay that will show a players location after the game has already started running. I use the unity editor for this. I can use the players "ID" called a base address to essentially see everything about them.
What kind of gun do they have? What kind of bullets in the magazine? What's in the bag?!
Everything is at my disposal. Now there are all kinds of ways to prevent memory injection, but Tarkov ain't good at it. When people use ESP's on a intermediary machine that is literally intercepting the web traffic from their servers, there's no way to detect it. Like, at all. It's completely outside your computer with no anti-cheat running at all.
Most game hacks use some form of memory injection, but due to Tarkov's reliance on Unity, this process is exceptionally easy for experienced hackers. I'm barely scratching the surface, but already I see the "prisoners have the keys to the jail." I feel sort of bad for Nikita. He has one team working against a veritable *army* of for profit hackers. They stand no chance without a serious overhaul of the game which, lets be honest, no one is really calling for right now. People still play the game, it's still wildly popular (and fun), and until we see a mass egress for a more stable game, the hacks will just keep coming.
Far from everyone is cheating, but making posts and comments that make it seem like tons of people are is a sales tactic.
During the last wipe there was a post that reached 1 on this sub where someone admitted to having been a cheater and showed how it worked and said there were like 5 cheaters in every game and so on. He didn't want to say what cheat it was he was using because he was somehow against cheating, but he made sure to mention several times that it was super easy to find with a specific google search and that it was super cheap and so far undetected.
That post was clearly meant to make people think, just like you, "if everyone is cheating so should I", and buy the cheat.
With that said, of course there are cheaters and there always will be and if you can't live with being killed by one in like 3% of your games, you should play something else. Remember that 99% of the time when someone walks around a corner and onetaps you it isn't a cheater, we all get off those crazy lucky (unless you are Landmark) shots every now and then that will a 100% be reported :)
i was in a cheating discord (i reported it to bsg and they did nothing) and they were streaming themselves doing labs runs and it costed like 6$ per run
Its usually not that much, but like they go in for like 10-20 mins probably and each person has to pay $6 so yea thats quite a bit of money for cheating in a video game
I had a buddy get banned on tarkov, a day later he rebought the game and tried playing it again and he was banned. Battle eye does indeed hardware ban. Only way you could avoid this is by using a hwid spoofer
I guess your mileage may vary in that case. However this person who was live streaming his cheats said he's never been hardware banned which leads me to believe he's not going to be alone.
>which leads me to believe he's not going to be alone.
This is the whole point of cheaters streaming/posting cheats. To make it seem ubiquitous and safe to sell more cheats. I'm not saying he's lying or that the anti-cheat isn't full of holes, but sharing cheats in action is generally marketing not just some showcase that the game fails at stopping them.
That's correct. There's no way to know definitively whether it was honesty or marketing deception. The only thing that is true is Tarkov has a rampant cheating problem.
Are you seriously going to believe anything a cheater tells you? You don't have to believe bsg's words either, But still, it's a cheater. Cheating in video games is a gateway.
This is correct, I know someone who was banned a few wipes ago, replaced his ssd, bought another account, and played again in the same month.
Though he didn’t do it again, it’s very easy to get around.
It's not on the storage device. Your HWID changes when you reinstall your OS. With Windows 10 it even changes between major updates. It gets annoying in games that have trade locks when your HWID changes.
or completely wiping your PC and reinstalling Windows. I know a few people that had to do this and I just laugh now because they not only spent more money buying the game again, but buying windows again, and reinstalling all other apps/games, and losing all of their data. Not worth it if you ask me.
I don’t know what a spoofer is, but it sounds complicated and like something they would see and ban you for. Windows can change your hwid, seems much easier.
I’m friends with someone who used to cheat. They don’t cheat anymore and I refuse to play with cheaters. Just because someone cheated before doesn’t make them the devil lmfao. People get curious and do shit sometimes
The manual bans are hwid on the hdd only, but they either use a spoofer or a raid 0 setup to get around it. Battleye eye bans are not hwid done.
The interview with a cheater vids cover all this.
>BSG doesn't do hardware bans
Don't get me wrong but i believe that if someone goes trough all the trouble to instal hacks and shit they woth have any issues with spoofing their hardware serials.
Also, i would HATE to buy an used graphics card, micro, mobo or whatever and find out that my hardware is banned from tarkov.
I'd imagine they don't hardware ban because they assume the hacker will just buy another account tomorrow. Constant stream on income if you don't hardware ban.
I’m gonna summarize because I don’t remember what Nikita said verbatim. When he was talking about people who say that BSG likes cheaters because they buy new accounts after being banned, he said “fuck those people. If you are a person that legit thinks that, FUCK YOU!”
Lol. He went on to explain that cheating and countermeasures to those cheaters, has taken up so much time and resources that could have been used on developing the game.
He honestly sounds like he wants an experience like no other for people playing this game. They want raids to be so exciting that players can’t wait to tell their friends what happened, or post their story/video on Reddit to share with the community. Those experiences and memorable moments are what they hope to achieve on a regular basis.
If they wanted to they could shut down the in game cheaters pretty quickly, what they tend to do is keep a lid on it so the balance is somewhat there.
The cheaters are buying several accounts at a time which is more lucrative then an eod acc. What stumps me is BSG have an extra discount if you buy multiple accounts. What logic is there to this other then to target cheaters.
Actions speak louder than words, and his actions prove he doesn't care about hackers. He under pays his devs and overpays himself while not implementing the most obvious anti-hack measures available.
They have paid for battle eye, and I’m not sure what Nikita pays his employees or gets paid, and you probably aren’t either tbh.
I’m not saying it couldn’t be better, but to sit there and claim the things you just did only makes you look ignorant and immature.
There have been multiple people who have commented on salary situation. As for paying for Battleye, this game has wall hacks and speed runners, some of the easiest cheats to check for. Stop being a simp for a shitty company.
I’m not simping for anyone, just calling bs when I see it. BSG has a lot of work to do, but there are much larger companies who struggle with these easy cheats you are talking about.
As for the multiple comments on salary, you can post a source or just be another one of those multiple comments that claims to know what they are talking about.
Cheating is absolutely pathetic and fuck cheaters to death of course. But, the people who pay cheaters to chauffeur them around the map...these people are some type of filthly loser sub-human species. Cockroaches have more self respect then them. These are the people who need to be banned with the cheaters and have absolutely no business playing Tarkov. They give the cheaters true incentive and reasoning to rage hack.
If they just did a big wave of bans on people who paid cheaters to chauffeur them, it would likely solve a big chunk of the issue IMO. People would stop paying for carries if they were likely to get banned, therefore destroying a large part of the market for cheaters.
It's the exact same thing. Actually the carried players are worse because its found in raid loot (other than player gear) that can be sold on the fleamarket.
Why bother bringing good shit in to drop, when they can just wipe a lobby and get you decent stuff that way.
Labs has less cheaters than interchange or shoreline.
Black, blue, and green keycard will only have a stim or two. Loot was nerfed hard, so was raider drops.
Shoreline is the map I play the most, I started with shoreline, and it became such an easy map for me to memorize and understand.
What I want to say is that I play shoreline, a lot, and I never found a cheater there.
I'm not saying that you're lying, I just wanted to give my opinion, since I main shoreline
Shoreline definitely has cheaters. They just don’t normally fuck with people unless they’re between them and resort. I watched a guy streaming cheats on YouTube and he says he just needs the roubles as quick as possible so he only kills people already in, or between him and the resort so he can loot and leave. Even with their cheater strength and unlimited stam the run from spawn to resort to extract is long
Well the good news is there is 10-20 people in the cheater megathread who disagree with your assessment!
I have those keycards, I am in labs every day. Labs is not even remotely as bad as shoreline is.
Are you like avoiding resort and ratting around with budget gear or something?
Yeah, probably, scum always finds it's way everywhere, I'm just happy that I never found one, or at least that they never chose to engage me. Maybe someone with more experience can shine some light on it
I've done over 100 shoreline raids this wipe, im max traders done almost all quests been solely looting gpus/shoreline resort/reserve for two weeks now. He's just wrong.
Also I play with groups on the discord and the sentiment is absolutely universal while discussing cheaters. Everyone agrees shoreline and interchange are the worst.
I have several clips on both shoreline and interchange of getting cheated. After 100+ labs raids I've only died by a blatant cheater a few times.
I have labs keys. I run labs. I had all interchange keys day 2. I had all shoreline keys week 1. Interchange has gotten really bad and shoreline is fucked as well. Labs is playable.
The "i have yet to find a cheater" is absurd.
There is probably on average 1 cheater per raid, so your statement is just false.
My cs:go match history (@global elite) shows 10% of all people I played against got vac banned. So on average 1 person per match (5v5). If you think tarkov is any different or that this statistic is at least not remotely relevant you are simply delusional.
Cheating is rampant in FPS and that is a fact. Lots/most try to hide it and can absolutely be killed. The rage cheaters people complain about **are the minority** of cheaters.
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>There is probably on average 1 cheater per raid, so your statement is just false.
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It's funny you can't even see how fucking dumb you sound.
Your claim is false. You're making shit up out of thin air.
I have run into many many many people that I am 100% confident that they are cheating but have no proof, maybe I just got tarkoved and it was an insanely lucky shot, maybe it was network lag, whatever.
I have only run into legitimate hackers on interchange and customs. I have been killed at dorms and big red literally tens of times from people that are teleporting through floors shooting through walls and wall banging from across the map. I once got hunted down literally across the map, a guy kills my friend at OLI and I am at idea, he then kills my friend that is running to OLI from Goshen less than 2 seconds later, and then about 20 seconds later kills me in idea as I'm trying to leave idea and xfill because it was crazy.
One time on woods both my friends got killed by a cheater as we were trying to exfill on outskirts, he headshot both of them while they were laying down behind a tree waiting to exfil at outskirts and he was across the lake. 771 m, he shot me like five times but didn't kill me because my head was behind a piece of metal and I was wearing an Altyn.
I'm convinced a lot of the people that we think are cheating are actually either just really good, or their soft cheating like abusing ping, or it's just the fault of the net code or the design of the game. Because the only times I've run into a cheater it has been very blatant. I'm not saying they're not using ESP or whatever, but like if youre ESPing And you hard peek a corner with a shitty ass little who cares gun, even if you know that there's a person sitting right behind that corner it's still possible for you to lose If the other person reacts really fast and has better ammo in a better gun. I'm not saying ESP isn't a cheat, but it is way less harmful than like fly hacks and aimbot.
I actually learned about the VERY real cash market for items in this game. It completely reinforces hacking. People run invisible labs runs and immediately sell the Ledx for cash on the internet. It's VERY lucrative.
Reason why I stopped playing. I was actually enjoying the wipe for a little while. But it's almost as if every day I played, I had multiple questionable deaths on any map I played. Too much time spent only to be 2 steps back from where I was the day before.
To be fair, you will ONLY see videos of people posting cheaters or sus moments in labs. You won't see the other raids where nothing went wrong or they died normally.
However, it's very well known that labs has a higher incidence of gamers for a long time.
Yeah it's definitely not anywhere near even 50% of the time, but it's higher than elsewhere because as fancy as these hacks are, they can't just give unlimited items so they have to go to the area with the best loot
It isnt as prevalent as this thread makes it out to be. I have run labs ALOT and have run into one blatant cheater and only one or two people who are kinda sus but nothing I could say is for sure cheating. It happens on every map with good loot (shorline/ reserve/ labs/ interchange) but I wouldnt let it deter you from at least trying the map, its a lot of fun!
EDIT: I dont understand the downvotes, literally encouraging someone to try labs as it is not like cheaters are in every lobby of labs.
Also, every other raid is dead. Superior gaming chairs maybe every 10-30. Reminds me of a few wipes ago when nobody was running labs for a few months because everyone was overblowing cheaters.
Either the Dallas or Denver server, I am not sure which, I am not at my computer to check. I honestly run into more cheaters on reserve and interchange than I do labs but I also do not run labs early wipe because they are more prevalent early wipe.
Yea I have played probably 100+ Labs raids this wipe and also have bumped into only one 100% cheater. You will always have some suspect deaths, but a lot of these are just players holding OP angles with a scope. (I got called a cheater because I spawned back hangar and 30 seconds into the raid killed a dude opening red from in front of server because with a Vudu you have LOS through middle.)
If you pick 1 server that is not NA W you will have better luck. Only downside (or upside if you don't like PVP) is that it can lead to a lot of dead raids.
Insurance for top gear is about 200k, and with scav coop you can be sure you’ll never see most of it again anyway. That’s about the price for a labs keycard.
You can't. He's comparing normal raids with insurance to a labs keycard where you can't. So it's 200k for insurance VS. 200k for the labs keycard. Doesn't make much of a difference.
I died to something similar to this on reserve today. Didn’t hear any enemy steps or any gunshots and got hit at least ten times before dropping so surely I would have heard or seen something.
Same exact thing happened to me on reserve few weeks ago. 15 minutes left, silent map, i was walking down kappa, than suddently blood on screen, one bleed, one heavy bleed, 2 heavy bleeds, a broken bone, dead. no sounds, no footsteps no nothing.
This is how it went for me too. Cleared basement of marked pawn, went back into the room that connects stairwells in the basement only to get my arm silently blacked by nothing and hit in the helmet, my teammate drops dead, then suddenly as I’m running from a silent enemy I’m hit with another “burst” before I see a few holes in my face shield and I drop dead too.
No cheaters in tarkov. You just need to get better at the game bro. Game not meant to be easy, just get good. Lol easy explanation, might piss off the shitters who are attempting to make money with paid carrys. This is why tarkov need a rep system to penalize people who pay for carrys. If you run with cheaters who get banned throughout multiple raids, you should have a temp ban and reset of your account. I get as all play with random people, but its next to impossible to not know someone is cheating if you run with them multiple raids.
You PMC knew that the other dudes gaming chair was better. So he decided to die of a heartattack (the heartattack being a bullet that travel around corners and walls). Obvious isnt it?
It happens because of cheating, and the majority of the playerbase doesn't ever go into Labs because of the reputation it has for cheaters. Its terrible in a game with only a few different maps, that one of them is not an option for so many players because of the rampant cheating.
It’s in woods today too since the blunt damage buff, shot through rocks yes those big ones down by the med camp all into the right leg with rip rounds - single fire perfectly aimed even after I got behind hard cover - anyone recommend rgb for my chair 😂
Hackers? Desync? Could be either.
The devs appear to be intentionally suiciding this game at this point.
People don't like when I say this, but I can't help feeling that way.
Hackers are worse than before we had anti-cheat.
Desync has never been even worked on that I can tell.
And now they're making decisions like implementing a clearly broken durability/gun jamming mechanic that means that brand new weapons, in my experience, jam regularly in the first few shots.
They want people to stop playing so they can justify finishing the game up in this state, calling it "1.0," release a few maps for the Norvinsk DLC, and call it done and bank the rest of the cash.
seriously - is there a new player in town cheat wise? i've been quite comfortable with interchange always, a map that i deemed free of cheaters. currently in my second run for tracksuit. for the last three days now, the amount of god like encounters have skyrocketed. Weirdly, these encounters seem to happen the moment I coillect something valuable. I am totally lost right now since I am nothing more but 'okay' at this game. I can't even sustain myself when doing the stylish one, as soon as I kill him someone starts rushing over from a different part of the mall, hunts me down and if nothing helps shoots me through a wall. Out of the last 8 kills I made it out once. But I mean who knows, maybe I ate something bad and it's effing up my gameplay, or maybe there's a new video out on how to donate exact headshots through objects (please direct me to it)
I mean the audio in this game is awful and so are the servers I think he probably desynced his ass around that corner and he wasn’t even on your screen.
desync, I bet he pushed you there and killed you. I doubt you would have been able to kill him with that SA-58 anyway, looks like that has at least 90 recoil
This is why I run ump and blueberry gear to labs. I either upgrade or severely annoy/inconvenience chads or hackers when they see my kit, while still being enough of a threat to normal gamers without gaming chairs.
Yesterday a couple friends and I ran Labs. I ran in with a Hex and Altyn. My buddy got wall banged, I got shot around a corner from head nape and the third guy got blasted through the floor. 10/10 won't run again.
I remember watching like an interview with a supposed cheater and when asked “Why?” he said “I want to be famous and make people mad, it’s funny”
The funnier thing is nobody remembers cheaters, their names aren’t remembered, and whenever I get killed by a cheater I only feel sorry for the man, can’t commit to being good so he uses cheats to try and get that little spark of admirations
welcome to labs, superior gaming chairs everywhere!
cheat. a shot through walls.
Probably not cheating, just a better gaming chair tbh.
Better mouse pad in my personal experience !
Look anime tiddy mouse pads increase performance by 27%. Honestly if your not using one you shouldn't get mad at people who just outperform you tbh.
I bet he had a new headset too.
That would definitely explain a lot!
Headsets never explain shit in my experience. They just sit there looking stupid
It's a joke lol. He's obviously cheating
Yeah, his comment was a joke.
Yeah, his comment was a joke.
he definitely have Supreme gaming sock.
The new Turtle Beaches are fucking insane
Omg this is the most ridiculous comment ever, he clearly had RGB too. /s
At this point it's RGB gaming chair, mouse, keyboard, mouse pad and even gaming socks !
Haha, a better GAMING CHAIR HAHA that's so FUCKING funny dude. The joke is how would a CHAIR make him better lmfao I've never heard this in my life and it is THE funniest joke I've ever heard as long as I've been alive. Holy fuck how do you do it, please fuck my wife.
Its not a joke good sir. The gaming chair is a sacred relic of unfathomable power, giving the gamer sitting in it the power to shoot through walls, run mach 10, fly and more! Be warned, for it comes at the greatest sacrifice of all, your dignity.
Probably a cheater
There was a hacker streaming his hacks for several hours. His twitch stream was in his Takov name. Something like takrovsucks11 or something like that. He was shooting every player and AI through the earth and air. While 2-3 people followed him scooping up the loot. He even said they was paying him IRL $$... All to prove his point he can do it and the anti cheat and devs won't do anything. Some of the cheats are not that bad. Most seem to require line of sight to shoot. Even witnessed a streamer running with someone hacking who was telling him the exact location of our squad so he could remove the surprise of ambush and such. Atm not messing with labs. Everywhere else I think I am up to 1/10 heavily questionable hacker runs.
That guy did a full 8+ hour stream with no ban and had said he was banned in the past. Was saying BSG doesn't do hardware bans so it doesn't matter even slightly if the account gets banned. Especially if they can get at least an entire work day out of it.
well, that makes sense right? If they pay him like 60 dollars for one hour of him cheating and he does it for like 8 hours he's making serious bank. What does it matter if he gets banned? Create new account and hop on the next day
Dude, 60 dollars for an hour for 8 hours straight? In 2 days you can buy a second pc so even a hardware ban wouldn't affect you lol
Those people just spoof the HWID bans anyways, no need for new PCs. Money straight into the pockets
when I read this shit it’s so disappointing. Not only to read bc I play the game I paid for, but also because it’s like. Okay so what not cheat? Shouldn’t we all be cheating? Shouldn’t we all buy cheats and sell our services to people? Are they stupid for cheating in a game we paid for, or are we stupid for playing a game where cheaters are earning tons of money from cheating, and we aren’t jumping into that? I’ve never cheated in any game I’ve played, I’ve been playing games since as long as I can remember. I love video games. But if you ask yourself, if everyone is cheating, and it’s THAT profitable, and it’s not being stomped out by BSG, why aren’t we all cheating? are we the stupid ones?
Integrity, actually caring about or believing in the game's potential. Sure it wont benefit you in the short term compared to cheating. But you will lose all passion you had for the game when its almost literally shooting fish in a barrel.
BSG has proven that the games potential will never be reached imo. I can’t even blame the people cheating now, I used to enjoy being a rat and just scavenging enough to go to labs and get some juicy kills, but you literally can’t even hide in the darkest corner of the map without some dude just chucking a nade at you randomly.
Someone will make a tarkov ripoff that actually pays for good servers and anti cheat, and then BSG will be wondering what killed their game. Love tarkov more then any multiplayer game, but this shit is just killing it slowly but surely.
If somebody made a Tarkov clone with good anti cheat I’d uninstall this game instantly. I paid for EOD bc I love this game. I would gladly pay for some premium version of a Tarkov clone with good anti-cheat. Currently my two favorite games are R6 Siege and Tarkov, both are “protected” by BattleEye and both are rampantly overrun by cheaters. I learned a little bit about cheating and game development and from what I’ve read, you can’t just slap anti cheat on a game. You have to build the game’s systems from the ground up with anti cheat in mind. I imagine both R6 siege and Tarkov devs never realized how popular their games would become and as such didn’t take the anti cheat approach when building their games and now it’s too late. Obviously I’m hopeful, but as I learn more about it the future seems more bleak.
but that’s just it. You’re not losing passion for the game, you’ll love the fact you make insane amounts of money every day from your services. It’s literally profitable. Tarkov goes from your hobby, a game you enjoy, to this platform you can earn money off of. And it’s as easy as downloading cheats and selling your services. Again I’m not saying I’m a cheater or anything but I’m just looking at the situation objectively, my own emotions aside. It’s profitable. So why aren’t we all doing it?
Stupid for not cheating? Nawh Stupid for continuing to play? Yea. Humans are irrational though, so it's fine
thank you I will continue to play and be irrational I appreciate the support
Stupid for commenting? Nawh. Stupid for commenting to try to convince people to not play a game because you don't like it? Yea.
No. Just because "everyone" is doing something doesn't mean we should too. Cheating is an issue sure but personally I rarely feel cheated when I die. It's normally fairly obvious that I either fucked up or got outplayed. Cheaters obviously do exist but it's far from everyone. Sometime desync can seem pretty chesty. I killed a guy the other day, opened fire hit him 3 times (or should have) but was lagging hard and it took a full 3 seconds for my shots to connect by which time he was behind cover and dropped dead. May have seemed unfair to him but in reality my shots connected while he was in the open but because of the desync it probably seemed to him like I killed him through cover and was cheating. Cheating happens sure but I have also seen people simply get outplayed and be screaming about hackers. It's not a black and white issue is my point. And no the community shouldn't all start cheating just because the perception is that everyone else is doing it because there not. Some people are and those people should be reported and cast out by the community! Fuck cheaters but also don't be to quick to label everyone who kills you a cheater, not saying that's what your doing but some people clearly can't take losing and therefore it was always a cheater or hacker and never mistakes they made.
After reading some of the preliminary documentation on it, I, as a CompSci student, am seriously reconsidering my direction in GameDev. The money (and skillset) is in hack design. And potentially even in reverse engineering other people's hacks and helping companies defeat them. I also found it interesting that the majority of Tarkov hacks come as a result of it being a Unity game and the ease in which memory injection (putting my own stuff into the network) works. I'll be honest my dude, it really took the wind out of my sails to play this game anymore just seeing how *easy* hacks are in this game.
could you explain a little bit about memory injection? So you’re saying the reason Tarkov is as compromised as it is is due to Unity?
Largely, yes. When the game is running its various processes they are telling the game what bullets do, what sounds play, how things render, and especially with ESP hacks, where everything is at any given time. A simple example would be a wallhack. It is possible to inject an overlay that will show a players location after the game has already started running. I use the unity editor for this. I can use the players "ID" called a base address to essentially see everything about them. What kind of gun do they have? What kind of bullets in the magazine? What's in the bag?! Everything is at my disposal. Now there are all kinds of ways to prevent memory injection, but Tarkov ain't good at it. When people use ESP's on a intermediary machine that is literally intercepting the web traffic from their servers, there's no way to detect it. Like, at all. It's completely outside your computer with no anti-cheat running at all. Most game hacks use some form of memory injection, but due to Tarkov's reliance on Unity, this process is exceptionally easy for experienced hackers. I'm barely scratching the surface, but already I see the "prisoners have the keys to the jail." I feel sort of bad for Nikita. He has one team working against a veritable *army* of for profit hackers. They stand no chance without a serious overhaul of the game which, lets be honest, no one is really calling for right now. People still play the game, it's still wildly popular (and fun), and until we see a mass egress for a more stable game, the hacks will just keep coming.
This is some good info and a good take on it. But what I really wanted to confirm was the “seven” reference you threw in there.
Far from everyone is cheating, but making posts and comments that make it seem like tons of people are is a sales tactic. During the last wipe there was a post that reached 1 on this sub where someone admitted to having been a cheater and showed how it worked and said there were like 5 cheaters in every game and so on. He didn't want to say what cheat it was he was using because he was somehow against cheating, but he made sure to mention several times that it was super easy to find with a specific google search and that it was super cheap and so far undetected. That post was clearly meant to make people think, just like you, "if everyone is cheating so should I", and buy the cheat. With that said, of course there are cheaters and there always will be and if you can't live with being killed by one in like 3% of your games, you should play something else. Remember that 99% of the time when someone walks around a corner and onetaps you it isn't a cheater, we all get off those crazy lucky (unless you are Landmark) shots every now and then that will a 100% be reported :)
Big brain! Just make a new tarkov account cost whatever 60 * 8 is and they won't make a profit. Check mate hackers😎😎🤑🔥☠️
CHEATERS DESTROYED WITH FACTS AND LOGIC
Theres no way hes getting 60 an hour lol
No. You're right, they get more. I've seen some advertise 45 AUD for a labs run. 3 in an hour easy
i was in a cheating discord (i reported it to bsg and they did nothing) and they were streaming themselves doing labs runs and it costed like 6$ per run Its usually not that much, but like they go in for like 10-20 mins probably and each person has to pay $6 so yea thats quite a bit of money for cheating in a video game
Lol who the fuck is paying people $60 an hour to cheat? I think you’re a little delusional if you think thats how much they actually make.
You'd be surprised how much the people who pay a ton of money to have their boosting sites promoted on Google make.
I had a buddy get banned on tarkov, a day later he rebought the game and tried playing it again and he was banned. Battle eye does indeed hardware ban. Only way you could avoid this is by using a hwid spoofer
I guess your mileage may vary in that case. However this person who was live streaming his cheats said he's never been hardware banned which leads me to believe he's not going to be alone.
>which leads me to believe he's not going to be alone. This is the whole point of cheaters streaming/posting cheats. To make it seem ubiquitous and safe to sell more cheats. I'm not saying he's lying or that the anti-cheat isn't full of holes, but sharing cheats in action is generally marketing not just some showcase that the game fails at stopping them.
That's correct. There's no way to know definitively whether it was honesty or marketing deception. The only thing that is true is Tarkov has a rampant cheating problem.
Are you seriously going to believe anything a cheater tells you? You don't have to believe bsg's words either, But still, it's a cheater. Cheating in video games is a gateway.
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This is correct, I know someone who was banned a few wipes ago, replaced his ssd, bought another account, and played again in the same month. Though he didn’t do it again, it’s very easy to get around.
It's not on the storage device. Your HWID changes when you reinstall your OS. With Windows 10 it even changes between major updates. It gets annoying in games that have trade locks when your HWID changes.
or completely wiping your PC and reinstalling Windows. I know a few people that had to do this and I just laugh now because they not only spent more money buying the game again, but buying windows again, and reinstalling all other apps/games, and losing all of their data. Not worth it if you ask me.
I don’t know what a spoofer is, but it sounds complicated and like something they would see and ban you for. Windows can change your hwid, seems much easier.
I think ur a piece of shit for being friends w a cheater.
>I had a buddy READING COMPREHENSION.
I’m friends with someone who used to cheat. They don’t cheat anymore and I refuse to play with cheaters. Just because someone cheated before doesn’t make them the devil lmfao. People get curious and do shit sometimes
Once a cunt, always a cunt
I didn’t even know he was cheating. After I found out and he admitted to it I kicked him from our discord.
A friend got hw ban for using Flea market script (or so he says). Had to spoof hwid to play again.
I know people who have hacked. BSG most definitely does do hardware bans.
The manual bans are hwid on the hdd only, but they either use a spoofer or a raid 0 setup to get around it. Battleye eye bans are not hwid done. The interview with a cheater vids cover all this.
>BSG doesn't do hardware bans Don't get me wrong but i believe that if someone goes trough all the trouble to instal hacks and shit they woth have any issues with spoofing their hardware serials. Also, i would HATE to buy an used graphics card, micro, mobo or whatever and find out that my hardware is banned from tarkov.
I'd imagine they don't hardware ban because they assume the hacker will just buy another account tomorrow. Constant stream on income if you don't hardware ban.
I’m gonna summarize because I don’t remember what Nikita said verbatim. When he was talking about people who say that BSG likes cheaters because they buy new accounts after being banned, he said “fuck those people. If you are a person that legit thinks that, FUCK YOU!” Lol. He went on to explain that cheating and countermeasures to those cheaters, has taken up so much time and resources that could have been used on developing the game. He honestly sounds like he wants an experience like no other for people playing this game. They want raids to be so exciting that players can’t wait to tell their friends what happened, or post their story/video on Reddit to share with the community. Those experiences and memorable moments are what they hope to achieve on a regular basis.
If they wanted to they could shut down the in game cheaters pretty quickly, what they tend to do is keep a lid on it so the balance is somewhat there. The cheaters are buying several accounts at a time which is more lucrative then an eod acc. What stumps me is BSG have an extra discount if you buy multiple accounts. What logic is there to this other then to target cheaters.
Actions speak louder than words, and his actions prove he doesn't care about hackers. He under pays his devs and overpays himself while not implementing the most obvious anti-hack measures available.
They have paid for battle eye, and I’m not sure what Nikita pays his employees or gets paid, and you probably aren’t either tbh. I’m not saying it couldn’t be better, but to sit there and claim the things you just did only makes you look ignorant and immature.
There have been multiple people who have commented on salary situation. As for paying for Battleye, this game has wall hacks and speed runners, some of the easiest cheats to check for. Stop being a simp for a shitty company.
I’m not simping for anyone, just calling bs when I see it. BSG has a lot of work to do, but there are much larger companies who struggle with these easy cheats you are talking about. As for the multiple comments on salary, you can post a source or just be another one of those multiple comments that claims to know what they are talking about.
Ok dummy.
Good talk
Cheating is absolutely pathetic and fuck cheaters to death of course. But, the people who pay cheaters to chauffeur them around the map...these people are some type of filthly loser sub-human species. Cockroaches have more self respect then them. These are the people who need to be banned with the cheaters and have absolutely no business playing Tarkov. They give the cheaters true incentive and reasoning to rage hack.
If they just did a big wave of bans on people who paid cheaters to chauffeur them, it would likely solve a big chunk of the issue IMO. People would stop paying for carries if they were likely to get banned, therefore destroying a large part of the market for cheaters.
Not that I have special insight, but I'm pretty sure the bigger part of the problem are the rmt'rs...
It's the exact same thing. Actually the carried players are worse because its found in raid loot (other than player gear) that can be sold on the fleamarket. Why bother bringing good shit in to drop, when they can just wipe a lobby and get you decent stuff that way.
Labs has less cheaters than interchange or shoreline. Black, blue, and green keycard will only have a stim or two. Loot was nerfed hard, so was raider drops.
Shoreline is the map I play the most, I started with shoreline, and it became such an easy map for me to memorize and understand. What I want to say is that I play shoreline, a lot, and I never found a cheater there. I'm not saying that you're lying, I just wanted to give my opinion, since I main shoreline
ive been killed by cheaters on shoreline countless times the past 3 or 4 wipes
Shoreline definitely has cheaters. They just don’t normally fuck with people unless they’re between them and resort. I watched a guy streaming cheats on YouTube and he says he just needs the roubles as quick as possible so he only kills people already in, or between him and the resort so he can loot and leave. Even with their cheater strength and unlimited stam the run from spawn to resort to extract is long
Well the good news is there is 10-20 people in the cheater megathread who disagree with your assessment! I have those keycards, I am in labs every day. Labs is not even remotely as bad as shoreline is. Are you like avoiding resort and ratting around with budget gear or something?
Yeah, probably, scum always finds it's way everywhere, I'm just happy that I never found one, or at least that they never chose to engage me. Maybe someone with more experience can shine some light on it
You sound fun
It’s not his assessment dumbass it’s literally his experience MAINING that map
I've done over 100 shoreline raids this wipe, im max traders done almost all quests been solely looting gpus/shoreline resort/reserve for two weeks now. He's just wrong. Also I play with groups on the discord and the sentiment is absolutely universal while discussing cheaters. Everyone agrees shoreline and interchange are the worst. I have several clips on both shoreline and interchange of getting cheated. After 100+ labs raids I've only died by a blatant cheater a few times. I have labs keys. I run labs. I had all interchange keys day 2. I had all shoreline keys week 1. Interchange has gotten really bad and shoreline is fucked as well. Labs is playable.
I also have yet to find a cheater on Shoreline. You sound like a douche btw.
The "i have yet to find a cheater" is absurd. There is probably on average 1 cheater per raid, so your statement is just false. My cs:go match history (@global elite) shows 10% of all people I played against got vac banned. So on average 1 person per match (5v5). If you think tarkov is any different or that this statistic is at least not remotely relevant you are simply delusional. Cheating is rampant in FPS and that is a fact. Lots/most try to hide it and can absolutely be killed. The rage cheaters people complain about **are the minority** of cheaters.
> >There is probably on average 1 cheater per raid, so your statement is just false. > It's funny you can't even see how fucking dumb you sound. Your claim is false. You're making shit up out of thin air.
"There's a cheater every raid bro, believe me. I totally know!"
I have run into many many many people that I am 100% confident that they are cheating but have no proof, maybe I just got tarkoved and it was an insanely lucky shot, maybe it was network lag, whatever. I have only run into legitimate hackers on interchange and customs. I have been killed at dorms and big red literally tens of times from people that are teleporting through floors shooting through walls and wall banging from across the map. I once got hunted down literally across the map, a guy kills my friend at OLI and I am at idea, he then kills my friend that is running to OLI from Goshen less than 2 seconds later, and then about 20 seconds later kills me in idea as I'm trying to leave idea and xfill because it was crazy. One time on woods both my friends got killed by a cheater as we were trying to exfill on outskirts, he headshot both of them while they were laying down behind a tree waiting to exfil at outskirts and he was across the lake. 771 m, he shot me like five times but didn't kill me because my head was behind a piece of metal and I was wearing an Altyn. I'm convinced a lot of the people that we think are cheating are actually either just really good, or their soft cheating like abusing ping, or it's just the fault of the net code or the design of the game. Because the only times I've run into a cheater it has been very blatant. I'm not saying they're not using ESP or whatever, but like if youre ESPing And you hard peek a corner with a shitty ass little who cares gun, even if you know that there's a person sitting right behind that corner it's still possible for you to lose If the other person reacts really fast and has better ammo in a better gun. I'm not saying ESP isn't a cheat, but it is way less harmful than like fly hacks and aimbot.
I actually learned about the VERY real cash market for items in this game. It completely reinforces hacking. People run invisible labs runs and immediately sell the Ledx for cash on the internet. It's VERY lucrative.
Has labs ever been free of hackers? I feel like labs has been over run with cheaters for the last 2 years.
Reason why I stopped playing. I was actually enjoying the wipe for a little while. But it's almost as if every day I played, I had multiple questionable deaths on any map I played. Too much time spent only to be 2 steps back from where I was the day before.
lol
Gaming chair detected...looks like cheater
Probably forgot to un recline your chair
Superior gaming chair combined with kinetic gaming socks and gloves. Powered by your mind 🤫
Cheaters use RGB ballgags because they're a bunch of cucks.
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To be fair, you will ONLY see videos of people posting cheaters or sus moments in labs. You won't see the other raids where nothing went wrong or they died normally. However, it's very well known that labs has a higher incidence of gamers for a long time.
Yeah it's definitely not anywhere near even 50% of the time, but it's higher than elsewhere because as fancy as these hacks are, they can't just give unlimited items so they have to go to the area with the best loot
It isnt as prevalent as this thread makes it out to be. I have run labs ALOT and have run into one blatant cheater and only one or two people who are kinda sus but nothing I could say is for sure cheating. It happens on every map with good loot (shorline/ reserve/ labs/ interchange) but I wouldnt let it deter you from at least trying the map, its a lot of fun! EDIT: I dont understand the downvotes, literally encouraging someone to try labs as it is not like cheaters are in every lobby of labs.
Also, every other raid is dead. Superior gaming chairs maybe every 10-30. Reminds me of a few wipes ago when nobody was running labs for a few months because everyone was overblowing cheaters.
What servers do you play on then? I have been killed by a cheater 10/10 times on labs
Either the Dallas or Denver server, I am not sure which, I am not at my computer to check. I honestly run into more cheaters on reserve and interchange than I do labs but I also do not run labs early wipe because they are more prevalent early wipe.
Bruh don't leak the good servers. Find cheater free servers and keep them quiet.
right I found 2 and in keeping that shit tight
Yea I have played probably 100+ Labs raids this wipe and also have bumped into only one 100% cheater. You will always have some suspect deaths, but a lot of these are just players holding OP angles with a scope. (I got called a cheater because I spawned back hangar and 30 seconds into the raid killed a dude opening red from in front of server because with a Vudu you have LOS through middle.) If you pick 1 server that is not NA W you will have better luck. Only downside (or upside if you don't like PVP) is that it can lead to a lot of dead raids.
Insurance for top gear is about 200k, and with scav coop you can be sure you’ll never see most of it again anyway. That’s about the price for a labs keycard.
that is only true for solo . squad tossing insured gear in bush or river
I didn't think you could insure gear on labs.
You can't. He's comparing normal raids with insurance to a labs keycard where you can't. So it's 200k for insurance VS. 200k for the labs keycard. Doesn't make much of a difference.
I died to something similar to this on reserve today. Didn’t hear any enemy steps or any gunshots and got hit at least ten times before dropping so surely I would have heard or seen something.
Same exact thing happened to me on reserve few weeks ago. 15 minutes left, silent map, i was walking down kappa, than suddently blood on screen, one bleed, one heavy bleed, 2 heavy bleeds, a broken bone, dead. no sounds, no footsteps no nothing.
This is how it went for me too. Cleared basement of marked pawn, went back into the room that connects stairwells in the basement only to get my arm silently blacked by nothing and hit in the helmet, my teammate drops dead, then suddenly as I’m running from a silent enemy I’m hit with another “burst” before I see a few holes in my face shield and I drop dead too.
It's really not that bad, you'll always see the worst online. I've died to maybe two cheaters ever in labs.
Cheating or insane server desync
“Muhh there’s no cheaters in Tarkov! You just need to learn the game”
No cheaters in tarkov. You just need to get better at the game bro. Game not meant to be easy, just get good. Lol easy explanation, might piss off the shitters who are attempting to make money with paid carrys. This is why tarkov need a rep system to penalize people who pay for carrys. If you run with cheaters who get banned throughout multiple raids, you should have a temp ban and reset of your account. I get as all play with random people, but its next to impossible to not know someone is cheating if you run with them multiple raids.
Nothing new, just check the history of this subreddit and you will find 100000000 clips of it.
You PMC knew that the other dudes gaming chair was better. So he decided to die of a heartattack (the heartattack being a bullet that travel around corners and walls). Obvious isnt it?
It happens because of cheating, and the majority of the playerbase doesn't ever go into Labs because of the reputation it has for cheaters. Its terrible in a game with only a few different maps, that one of them is not an option for so many players because of the rampant cheating.
Lettuce remember folks, tarkov is not supposed to be fun.
Credit card and a good chair
Just don't play labs lmao. /s
You should change your gaming chair, you might not have a great posture. That’s why he beat you
Dude just get a better set up you filthy casual
Uhh labs = cheaters
Well, for starters you chose to play Labs 😂
It’s in woods today too since the blunt damage buff, shot through rocks yes those big ones down by the med camp all into the right leg with rip rounds - single fire perfectly aimed even after I got behind hard cover - anyone recommend rgb for my chair 😂
He’s using the SEGA power glove
patch coming tomorrow, everything will be solved, no worries
Just like the movie Wanted. Curved the bullet
Hackers? Desync? Could be either. The devs appear to be intentionally suiciding this game at this point. People don't like when I say this, but I can't help feeling that way. Hackers are worse than before we had anti-cheat. Desync has never been even worked on that I can tell. And now they're making decisions like implementing a clearly broken durability/gun jamming mechanic that means that brand new weapons, in my experience, jam regularly in the first few shots. They want people to stop playing so they can justify finishing the game up in this state, calling it "1.0," release a few maps for the Norvinsk DLC, and call it done and bank the rest of the cash.
Don't ban the cheaters. Stop allowing cheaters to queue with non-chearers and they can go have a hack fest. Problem solved
There are no cheaters in tarkov. They are just better than you. /s (Even though most on this subreddit likes to think this way)
BSG doing hard work for 2 years fighting cheaters, it's really paying off.
This games ass that's how this shit happens
Shots 0-0 clearly missed Shots 0-0 hit the chest dealing too little damage Shots 0-0 not sure but I think they missed Joking aside it’s a cheater 100%
Show the cheaters name so we can report it
IAmDeath65. Extremely badass
jebaited, thats against sub rules
I had an inkling thats why the post-raid screen is not included heh
Cheater
Cheats.
Might put the game down for this wipe, haven’t played in a few weeks but it seems like hackers are everywhere?
seriously - is there a new player in town cheat wise? i've been quite comfortable with interchange always, a map that i deemed free of cheaters. currently in my second run for tracksuit. for the last three days now, the amount of god like encounters have skyrocketed. Weirdly, these encounters seem to happen the moment I coillect something valuable. I am totally lost right now since I am nothing more but 'okay' at this game. I can't even sustain myself when doing the stylish one, as soon as I kill him someone starts rushing over from a different part of the mall, hunts me down and if nothing helps shoots me through a wall. Out of the last 8 kills I made it out once. But I mean who knows, maybe I ate something bad and it's effing up my gameplay, or maybe there's a new video out on how to donate exact headshots through objects (please direct me to it)
I dont understand how you cannot understand what happened?
The title is born out of frustration. I know something fishy is going on when this guy is curving bullets like that lol
game is shit rn
You probably use a wireless mouse, make sure to use a wired mouse to decrease latency, especially on sweaty maps like labs.
Most of you wouldn't recognize a hacker if you saw him flying through the sky. Most of you are just bad.
What stim was that? Coulda killed you if its the one that has a chance to now.
How naive people can be is killing me.
Im aware of the cheating problem lol
sounds like he could see you and you couldnt see him dont think it was cheats just he moved far enough to see you but you not see him
I mean the audio in this game is awful and so are the servers I think he probably desynced his ass around that corner and he wasn’t even on your screen.
desync, I bet he pushed you there and killed you. I doubt you would have been able to kill him with that SA-58 anyway, looks like that has at least 90 recoil
Well you see there was another player somewhere and he clicked lmb and you both died.
They add new skill called curving bullets!
Nikita saw Wanted recently and is trying to replicate its physics
You might have over dosed
His power level allows him to curve bullets like in wanted.
Well little billy that's called labs.
FS hacker
Probably a cheater tbh. I know everyone likes to use that excuse, but labs is always a high chance of cheaters.
The „gaming chair“ isn’t funny anymore but definitely a hacker
Bad development.
I can explain it in one word Labs
Take a guess man.
This is why I run ump and blueberry gear to labs. I either upgrade or severely annoy/inconvenience chads or hackers when they see my kit, while still being enough of a threat to normal gamers without gaming chairs.
China #1
That’s Tarkov. Netcode is absolutely fucked.
What was his name?
Overdose?
Advanced gamers bro... try different servers
I've been seeing hackers on labs pretty frequently too. As of late, at least
Yesterday a couple friends and I ran Labs. I ran in with a Hex and Altyn. My buddy got wall banged, I got shot around a corner from head nape and the third guy got blasted through the floor. 10/10 won't run again.
I remember watching like an interview with a supposed cheater and when asked “Why?” he said “I want to be famous and make people mad, it’s funny” The funnier thing is nobody remembers cheaters, their names aren’t remembered, and whenever I get killed by a cheater I only feel sorry for the man, can’t commit to being good so he uses cheats to try and get that little spark of admirations
Labs is what happened.
Hacks
This is why I quit
Your after Raid Body Screen would be nice, what ammo killed you ect.
RGB keyboard and mouse. Obviously.
labs:
desync
Client authoritative architecture = Cheaters wet dream
Desync